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Mystery Sword Bag, Continued

Three bayonets and a maybe-German katana? I don't even know :D

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The two longer bayonets look like French Bayonets from 1866. They were referred to as โ€œSword Bayonetsโ€ so are more appropriate than you may have thought. http://arms2armor.com/Bayonets/fren1866.htm

Archie George

Turns out I was wrong to think it was a wakizashi due to the short-looking handle, but the blade is fairly long, as we can see here. Still, I'll double down on saying that the handle IS quite short for a katana: when you hold it with both hands, there should be some space between them. Pausing the video at 1:44, it just doesn't look like that... Regarding the task of taking the katana apart: in traditional ones, there is a bamboo pin holding the tang and the handle together. You should be able to separate them easily - however, if it is really from Germany, it may not be assembled traditionally at all :D

David M

Katana usually had a single fixture for a cord (I'd look up all the Japanese names for these parts, but... naaah) on the scabbard, which seems to be the case here. Also, generally speaking, tachi handles had a tendency to be longer than those on katana.

David M

Yes, Japanese hardly do grammatical pluralization at all, it's all about the context. Therefore, the plural of Katana is Katana, the plural of Ninja is Ninja, the plural of Samurai is Samurai and so forth. Standard English pluralization does work here, I'll admit that - but with quite a bit of stomach ache.

David M

Considering the number of different ways they found to ask me "do you have any metal in your body" when I had my recent MRI, I suspect that an MRI is not the correct thing for a large metal object :D

Scott Ellis

To my limited understanding, Japanese doesn't do pluralization at all the same way English does, so using katana as the plural of katana is about right. Elsewise, the standard English pluralization gives us katanas, which is also correct.

Liz Endreson

If you want a professional appraisal, then you could make an appointment with one of the conservators at the Royal Armories Museum in Leeds.

Alexander

Well! 3 bayonets, 2 officers swords, and a mystery katana! This does sound a bit like WWII battlefield swag. And you'll probably have to get them all cleaned up before you'll be able to identify anything.

Ann Brookens

I like mysteries, but I particularly like mysteries that come with answers, so I hope you find some!

Cassandra

Reminds me of a very meaningful comment from Prince Talleyrand, Napoleon's foreign minister, โ€œYou can do many things with bayonets except sit on them.โ€ That's more a comment on empire-building, nationalism, and geopolitics in general than the literal blades, but I think it still fits.

Shaun Abdelkerim

note of minor interest: that might actually be a tachi, instead of a katana. I can't tell from the video, but it looks like the saya (scabbard) might be made to hang from the belt? If so, you've got a tachi.

Robert Calhoun

You always brighten my day.

shift shift

Can you 'look' at the tang *without* taking it apart? Do you know anyone with a medical scanner? X-ray or MRI (probably not an ultrasound) pop to mind. There are companies that offer to scan the inside of 'industrial' objects but it's typically rather expensive. (Medical scanners are also typically expensive to use but someone might scan your Katana as part of training or something?)

Ekij


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