Fandom Menace's Disingenuous Lazy Arguments
Added 2020-08-28 19:03:00 +0000 UTCYeah, it's about time we talk about the disingenuous arguments against new Star Trek by the Fandom Menace.
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So far, it's been mostly positive, so that's good
Jessie Earl
2020-08-29 19:03:03 +0000 UTC<3
Jessie Earl
2020-08-29 19:02:54 +0000 UTCThank you! <3 I love it too
Jessie Earl
2020-08-29 19:02:50 +0000 UTCTHank you for watching it and I really appreciate your kind thoughts!
Jessie Earl
2020-08-29 19:02:41 +0000 UTC<3 Some really good points here! Thanks :)
Jessie Earl
2020-08-29 19:02:22 +0000 UTCThanks for the video, spot-on as always. I do have a comment about the 'too dark' stuff, if I may. I actually felt the same for much of Discovery season one, because it felt... hm. Gratuitous? However, it did not feel that way in season two, or in Picard. Like, at all. There it felt justified, important. My point here is that actually the producers of those shows were addressing a real flaw of classic Trek, one on which you also touch in your disillusionment video, I think: utopian texts (using 'text' in a loose sense here of course) tend to focus on how the perfect future _looks_, while oftentimes completely ignoring (a) how it actually (supposedly) works and (b) how we might ever get there. IMHO that's Hegelian thinking, Weltgeist and all that: i.e. the idea all civilisations inevitably develop towards perfection, so 'we' just have to wait (which also explains the Prime Directive, by the way). The problems with this thinking are of course numerous, not least of all the fact that the Hegelian ideal of societal perfection tends to look very white and 'western', i.e. carries a lot of racist and colonialist baggage.
Hannah F.
2020-08-29 07:37:15 +0000 UTCNicely done. I'm not actually much of a Trek fan, certainly not enough of a fan to hate watch series/movies that don't appeal to me or commentary of the same. But I have still managed to encounter all of those points, so it's nice to hear you address them individually but without personalizing the criticism. Aside from yourself the only Trek related creator I follow is Steve Shives and neither of you traffic in that kind of commentary. Which makes me think that it's really dug its claws into the culture. Further, I think that pointing out how lazy and disingenuous those arguments frequently are is worthwhile from the perspective of someone who wants their watching to be as good as possible. Writers and other creators generally take on board critiques they consider genuine and well-intentioned, but anything that seems like it may not be in good faith or may be applied too broadly is going to be dismissed (rightly) without consideration. The only upside for that kind of commentary is clicks that bring ad-revenue. It doesn't do anything to improve the shows, if anything it just makes it harder to make honest criticisms stick. Especially if one of those repetitive and over used criticisms really does apply. That's a very longwinded way of saying I loved the video, thanks for making it.
Adam Kickmaier
2020-08-29 05:42:31 +0000 UTCI've seen you wearing it in other videos, so it's not about this video specifically, but I really love your earrring!
Frances Webb
2020-08-29 02:08:16 +0000 UTCI'm glad you made this video the way you did.
Fursona Erchon
2020-08-28 23:41:44 +0000 UTCVery good video! Though I do not envy your comments section on youtube when this goes up.
Cheesed To Meet You
2020-08-28 19:41:13 +0000 UTC
