INNER CIRCLE - Quick Thought On Addie
Added 2024-12-03 21:41:51 +0000 UTCComments
is "demographically speaking, probably the only one to still mask" based on your perception of the fanbase here*, or a 1:1 of real-world masking percentage? *if this were a fanbase for a disabled person i doubt youd have made the same prediction on demographics of masking
Julian
2024-12-08 22:59:39 +0000 UTCI’ma masker myself and when I saw the tweet I didn’t think the joke was mocking masks I thought the joke was you’ve been consistently building her profile to be very realistic by referencing ur real life and to me the idea of your secret fake burner account being only to post very normal and reasonable ideas makes me legit Lol 😂
Lyss
2024-12-05 23:17:00 +0000 UTCPpl don’t realize this is Addie and not Becca 🙄
Lyss
2024-12-05 22:50:42 +0000 UTCI only know about the tweet cuz a friend sent it to me but I assumed it was some sort of rage bait. Not that I think wearing a mask is embarrassing or your concerns aren’t valid but I can see why so many people interpreted it an that extreme direction. I only consume your video content and the tweets that you post on other platforms so I guess I just don’t have any understanding of Addie I hope this doesn’t seem completely unrelated but I started watching your content this summer and I REALLY enjoy your psychology content. My first day of binging I was mostly watching your wacky videos about doing terroristic acts and eating your family members but so I assumed you were 100% about pretending to be insane but everytime I watched one of your psych/therapist videos at some point I’d realize that the tangent you were going on was very true even though the character you’re playing was endorsing it for the wrong reason! So that’s what opened me up to understanding that you aren’t just all about acting insane. Made me realize there’s a layer of realness so I can understand the Addie thing, just without context it’s hard for the “layman” (couldn’t think of a better word here) to not think you were doing some light trolling. I hope this makes some amount of sense
Temi
2024-12-04 21:51:02 +0000 UTCPersonally, I think whoever asked why you are "punching down" is in the wrong, not you. Disabled or immunocompromised people are not below us. And language like that just continues to perpetuate negative stereotypes and societal roles.
Ethan Roberts
2024-12-04 08:19:33 +0000 UTCHaving just joined the inner circle recently, I think I have a good perspective of the people who consume your content who aren't "in the know". I seriously had no idea if anything you incorporate into your characters was real at all, so much of it is obviously satire that it's impossible to view anything you make as anything but that. Even now, it is genuinely hard to look at that post and understand that it isn't a joke at the expense of people wearing masks, despite you saying it isn't.
Advesha
2024-12-04 01:03:44 +0000 UTCI think that inner circlers/ppl who are Tapped IN to your stuff will understand what's real and what's not. But the majority of people are seeing your/Addie's tweets casually on their timeline, so the nuances and truths get thrown away and go unconsidered. In particular with Addie's twitter, yes there are plenty of elements that stem from real life, but like 10% of people who follow are gonna know what those parts are. For everybody else, they either just think ALL OF IT is a joke or think it's made up fluff to make the account seem more genuine. This is all very unfair to you as an individual and as other people have mentioned, the platform where this is occurring does not lend itself to the most empathetic nor understanding audience. There are other factors as well that again other comments have brought up so I won't detail them here but overall: 1. DH's established persona will put a veil of insincerity over people's eyes, therefore everything posted will be taken with an air of "satire", regardless of how truthful it is. It's hard to break people's perceptions of you once they feel like they know what to expect. "boy who cried wolf" etc 2. Faceapp + wig imagery could take away from the earnest quality of the words attached 2.1. Could also make a comment on the colossal misogyny problem twitter + the comedy landscape has. It could either be taken as you making a mockery of women or people simply hating it because it's coming from a female figure. Lose/lose situation 3. The post within context of everything else: Why should the viewer single out this one post as serious and real when everything else, to them, is made up and fake. What would prompt somebody to flip that internal switch and see THIS post as real when they haven't had to do or think that with other pieces? Especially if they are just a casual follower 4. It is twitter. Weak point but it must be said. I wouldn't give too much credit nor expectation to the people on there to engage with anything wholesomely; those who do would be outliers. It would be great to have more faith in people's ability to be sympathetic, but I unfortunately think that is energy that would be wasted. ALL THIS BEING SAID, I don't think that post was inherently harmful. Miscommunication and bad faith judgment is bound to happen on a platform where reactionary responses are worth everything. You make good critique on how your humanity gets stripped away all because you're an online comedian, and it is unfortunate and disappointing that this is something you have to manage.
non-entity
2024-12-03 23:38:07 +0000 UTCDid you explain any of this to your friends/tell them how you feel?
alex
2024-12-03 23:36:39 +0000 UTCFirst of all, I think pretty much everyone in the inner circle is here BECAUSE your videos while comedic and sometimes extremely exaggerated always hold some truth in them. That’s what moved ME to support your work, at least. Secondly, as others have already mentioned in the comments being labeled as a “satirical content creator” will lead a lot of people to just dismiss anything you write, film, or tweet as satire. For example, someone who just saw “cocky want boing boing” on their timeline and found it funny, and started following you and then Addie, but didn’t engage with your content that much, might dismiss anything that you post as just plain satire. I (and other members of the Patreon) know that in this tweet you’re talking about yourself, since you mentioned still wearing a mask some videos ago, so we see this tweet as genuine. Someone else might not. Thirdly (is that even a word?), that’s Twitter we’re talking about - people there are extremely reactive and, well, for the most part stupid, so it takes one person to get offended, and other people will just get offended as well not trying to analyze and think WHY they’re getting offended. I think a lot of the audience that you have, since it’s a pretty big audience, won’t engage with your work on the level you expect them to, and that’s true for every artist of every art form! Don’t take it personally!
Andrey Korolev
2024-12-03 22:37:30 +0000 UTCwith twitter a third body is created which is usually used to be snarky and portray ones social virtued lthough in your case it is assumed you are always comedic. putting in aspects of your first body (private life , neuroticism) & second body (public life , outward masking) is seen as cuckoo bananas. im the smartest one so often im the smartest one so often i think.
Julian
2024-12-03 22:33:20 +0000 UTCHi! This is probably the only time I will type out an essay in the Patreon comments like this, but this video is more specifically relevant to me than anything you've posted previously. Demographically speaking, there's a decent chance that I'm one of the only people (if not the only person) still masking consistently in your inner circle, so I figure it's worth bringing up. I saw the Addie tweet yesterday and it rubbed me the wrong way too, but not because I don't think it aligns with your personal experiences. I do remember you specifically mentioning N95 masking in one of your previous inner circle videos, so I knew it was based in your own reality and lived experience, but I do think there is a clear disparity between the message you conveyed in the N95 tweet and the info you have otherwise shared with the public. I don't think it is surprising that the N95 tweet came off as insincere, considering that it was posted on the same day you posted a photo of you maskless inside the gun shop, a couple days after a live indoor performance, and from the same account that you have posted photos of you inside an Olive Garden or whatever that was. The art you create is immensely special to me, and I understand the value of maintaining and creating the Dan Hentschel persona, but as someone who actually masks Everywhere, like, EVERYWHERE, because I am unfortunately viscerally aware of the dangers and long-term health consequences of this ongoing pandemic, it does feel hurtful to see you publicly framing your masking not as a joke necessarily, but as something inconsistent at best. I don't believe that people that still mask are irrational, or delusional, but instead have adjusted to the lived reality of the 2020s and are working to protect themselves and their communities from illness, death, and disability. Anyways, this all comes from a place of great admiration for your work and for your artistic ethos, so I hope this isn't read as hostile at all. I guess I am just inviting you to consider that if you are still masking in public, then ideally it should not be from your own internal neuroses, but instead from an earnest love of community and a desire to do the morally good thing. Thanks for reading, and thank you for all the art and insight you have shared, it's been so special to me.
Lane
2024-12-03 22:32:05 +0000 UTCmy 2 points connected in that posts about someones day or routine experience, for example what you posted about your mask, are not usually made with numbers in mind, especially when comedy-adjacent. its unusual so people think: how to not take this at face value those are my onions.
Julian
2024-12-03 22:23:36 +0000 UTCi think there are 2 issues here 1) typecast as "comedian" so now everything taken as a joke; especially given some faceapp posts obviously being comedy. in the case of masking specifically, most posts that are not telling people to mask are making fun of masking; no one wants to wade into unappealing topic of disability 2) social media used to construct socially-perfect second-bodies which i may or may not elaborate on when i am not on a home depot toilet.
Julian
2024-12-03 22:21:46 +0000 UTCagreed!
piper
2024-12-03 22:15:54 +0000 UTCThis is how I see Addie within her posting. I think when she writing a tweet it is more of a form of discussion and presenting more of a genuine point with the occasional meme tweet about dan. I think where the tweet gets lost is the image with some use of face app, as usually, the punchline of your tweets are the images. I believe people predominantly know it's you and you posting an image as the joke, that's where the mixture of reality and "satire" gets lost. If it was just a typed-out tweet, I think more people would understand it as you being genuine, but the picture makes people assume it is a joke. That is just from my perspective, but I do understand why you are really frustrated with those online undermining basically who you actually are.
ayo
2024-12-03 21:58:19 +0000 UTCI think the ability to incorporate aspects of yourself into your characters is biting you in the ass because (for lack of better terminology) people aren’t really able to grasp the Nuance of it all… Basically, in their eyes, you’re either a complete sociopath that’s murdering people and jerking off to bestiality porn OR everything you’re saying is a bit/joke and you mean none of it. I don’t think the general Twitter user has the mental capacity to read between the lines of a newspaper, let alone satire. I empathize with you feeling upset, but these people are kind of just stupid LMFAO. It might just be because I’ve been around for a bit, but it’s pretty easy to read into what’s fake versus what’s real (honestly what does THAT even mean since you’re trying to come from a place of truth, even with the heavily obvious character bits) on the Addie Twitter… Mind boggling to hear that people in your REAL LIFE are DM’ing you with concern. I’d say keep it pushing but maybe I’m crazy
madi
2024-12-03 21:58:10 +0000 UTC
