BTS - Permission To Dance Reaction!

PTD is for international market. If you don't like the song, it does not mean that the song has low quality.

Miss MoU

i understand Danny pretty well but i'm 100% agree with David ..nice reactions as usual guys thank you

Sokha Hem

I think you can't put them in a box, like saying fake love and dna is "bts", cause when you look at their discography, their sound is very diverse, and obviously, being in the industry for more than 7 years, their music will evolve. I mean, all artists eventually has a different sound when they spend a lot of years doing music (eg. Taylor swift, JB, maroon 5 etc).

I actually think this is more like a "BTS" song than dynamite, in terms of the intention (which is to lift people up, bring joy etc) and the message.

I know I’m late but I was screaming THANK YOU DANNY while watching this.

I love them. Period. PTD is not the best, and that's ok. With wanting a new Korean album, I do but I guess it kinda make sense to postpone it a bit longer, since their tour will more likely be focused on Map of the Soul 7 tracks (and 'BE' maybe). So releasing new songs may affect their intended set list for the concert, and old songs overshadowed. I'm super ok with any, THEY RELEASE SO MUCH CONTENT (and merch 🤑) and a lot of songs to listen on repeat, fyi not getting tired of Dynamite, i love it to this day. (TMI: prior to adding BTS on my playlist, I only had 200 songs from 5-10 years ago on repeat, which i don't update 😅) EDIT: Ye, I'm ok with Danny's or David's comment... "not a big deal" 😜

TY

I can relate to everything you wrote here, I feel like I ghostwrote this, lol

I really wanted to like PTD but it's...not my style to say the least. It’s not just one English song. Dynamite and Butter are tolerable, but this is their 3rd English song in under a year and instead of improving, there is a degrade in quality. And with these songs comes all the pressure and expectations of streaming, billboard #1 charting, YT records and, most importantly (to them), Grammy-winning aspirations. So in a sense they are more important right now. We weren’t getting tweets, weverse posts, and selfies from the guys for Film Out’s chart performance in Japan exactly… I keep reminding myself that other people are mostly responsible for this, but it still has their name on it. It's just I know they want a Grammy and I then I hear this and it’s like…what makes them think this content would measure up at all? Whoever is giving them advice I think wants them positioned more as a typical boyband rather than who they really are. They’ll get a nomination for being popular and Grammys will want them for ratings, but I don't see this improving their legitimacy in the RA's eyes... HYBE/BTS are holding themselves at first base while allowing their competition to start at third… The Coldplay collab can't come soon enough.

Erika Thompson

I think it's because the English stuff gets more weight for importance. This is what has pressure for Billboard charts, YT and Spotify streaming, and Grammy recognition. It's what the boys actually give us interaction for. They aren't saying thanks for Film Out's performance in Japan for instance. It's currently the FACE of BTS and if this is someone's first impression, it doesn't give them as good of an impression. Based on the long history of boy bands in the West, I wouldn't look at these people and think we'd be getting something with the kind of substance as a Deachwita. PTD does not really show us what makes BTS special and I'm confused about this direction when they are on a Grammy campaign and want to be seen as legitimate.

Erika Thompson

you know the thing about social media…It’s a place where people get to Opine about things. So while I’m not a fan of hating on people or things it certainly within our rights to say you know what this song… not So good

Yep I like butter but this new song nope nope nope nope nope it’s not even artful it’s a throwaway

My sis said, this one is so easy to like immediately. Easy listening. Without efforts. And during COVID19 when the end never seem to arrive, who needs to listen to HEAVIER songs? I prefer more "alternative" music myself. But that would leave people like my sister, OUT. LIFE is too heavy as it is. For everyone. ALL embracing easy to connect song qualifies as "GOOD" music as far as I am concerned. We live in a different world now. The world before the pandemic is no more.

The song is another happy summer song which less impressive texts. It makes me feel good and that why I like it. But I wonder if I’m the only one who thinks this could be a song from a Disney Teen Musical Dance number? 😅 In my environment are many BTS-fans that think like Danny. So the talk isn’t new to me. Personally I’m not a BTS-fan at all and like only a handful of songs of them but the new numbers made me interested in them and I guess that’s what Hybe wants.

SOMETIMES A GOOD SONG IS ONE THAT MAKES OTHERS HAPPY. In this case, more hopeful. Doesn't have to be more complicated than that.

100% agree with David. I don’t understand why people need to be so vocal about their dislike towards something. If you don’t like it, don’t listen to it and move on. Don’t go on a hate parade and reduce all of bts’s musicality to just these three songs. Don’t spread the negativity and ruin other people’s mood

Hello D & D i was curious about SoKo's new Covid restrictions on music BPM. You guys said it wasn't to go over 120 bpm. Well PTD is 125 you think bangtannies gonna not be played in stores/shops? Im thinking nah, bcos they are so loved but im very biased💜💜

Teshaaka Harrell

I agree with Danny. Although the English songs are not bad songs I don't think they are the best representation of BTS discography just some different musical/commercial attempt. Also I don't think if someone don't like these songs is hating the group as a whole, just this is musical preference to your favorite group. There are songs that you like more and there are songs that you like less or don't like at all.

Temi

Team David on this one

Akansha

Simplicity can be of high quality.

It reminded me of High School Musical as well 😂

Thank you. You noticed. I realized the ones represented are the ones most affected by COVID and lockdown. The inclusion of some sign for deaf ARMY. The color purple, releasing the balloons, and knowing someday we WILL be able to tear off the masks. If all you choose to hear is a catchy pop song and don't actually listen to the words or see the symbols you are missing out. I think you wrote it correctly. It is more like a fan/family-friendly community package for us to enjoy. Nothing wrong with that, right. BTS and Big Hit did what they are good at which is having Artists and creating Music for Healing.

Thank you, Danny.

I'm confused on why people think BTS has "lost their roots". They come on Weverse, twitter everytime to thank Army's. RM's quick vlive talking about behind the scenes (their english releases might not be written by them, but they definitely are 100% involved in the process). The soundcloud releases for Army (which is in Korean btw). When they come on vlive to celebrate everytime we reach a new milestone. The OT7 daechwita & chicken noodle soup performances during muster....

102090

It has come to my attention that there are those who choose to wallow in disappointment and criticism. They think it makes them appear knowledgeable and so cool. If you stop here with the body of work that BTS has done and will probably do in the future you are cheating yourself. Your loss not theirs.

BTS are trying to cheer up ARMYs (around the world) by releasing these English songs even if it's not them who wrote or produced. It is known that BTS are learning and working on their English language. I can feel that BTS are more confident now in singing English and I'm looking forward when time came BTS will write and produce their own English songs. Those people who are so negative towards BTS singing and releasing English songs, well I respect them but now BTS are successful in these English songs. 😁 People hating BTS singing English songs just don't like BTS succeed. And there are people also hating BTS singing English song just because their western artists were being outperformed by BTS😁....Once BTS get the hang of their English language then we can expect more English songs written and produced by them. It is something I am excited and looking forward for that to happen. 💜🤞🤞🤞🤞While now let's enjoy #PTD 😁

May N.

I don’t think David hates Danny—I’ve watched them since 2018, they’re like sweet & sour, Ebert & Gene. If David hated Danny, he wouldn’t have continued after the Tamara fiasco. They do have strong differences of opinion on PermissiontoDance. Also, I think David might have read too many negative comments along the lines he mentioned & he’s just done with it.

Ayda Lucero Fleck

(AIISH‼️) Last but not least, PermissionToDance message says we can dance now while things are still miserable, we don’t have to wait until the COVID pandemic is eradicated. And it WILL end one day when we can finally strip our masks away

Ayda Lucero Fleck

I agree so much with Danny haha. I’d be more interested in English releases if the members took part in writing and producing them. I think I’d feel less…disappointed about PTD if they had written it themselves. Even if I didn’t like the song, it would still feel like a part of them and feel more authentic.

Kalli

OK, just figured out that hitting return button sends comments😭. I watched the choreo practice video & last night’s Jimmy Fallon performance—they had a lot more zip in the choreo, more like their usual choreo. I liked PermissiontoDance a lot—so did a lot of ARMY & expert reactions (music/video producers, vocal coaches, musicians, dancers, etc.) loved it & kept saying how happy it made them feel. It’s different from other videos (Korean & English languages) in that its pace is much slower & relaxed, choreo simpler. It felt more like a fan/family-friendly community video that everyone can dance to. PermissionToDance is different in other significant ways I & the deaf cmty. 💜= using International/Korean/American sign language. It’s inclusive of different races/ages/body sizes & of ordinary ppl: disabled, waitresses, janitors, teachers, kids, older students, office workers

Ayda Lucero Fleck

(sorry, new to this comment thing & inadvertently posted incomplete comments)

Ayda Lucero Fleck

(cont.) I have favorites from each era, incl. Japanese releases).

Ayda Lucero Fleck

PermissiontoDance isn’t a horrible song—it’s not one of BTS’ best/great songs (I have so many favorites, right now I think Black Swan is their best song and MapoftheSoul:7 probably their best album so far—but again I

Ayda Lucero Fleck

David just openly hates Danny. It's uncomfortable to watch, honestly.

Cat

Have to agree with Danny, had to stop playing less than a minute in, also feels like the rap line struggled with the song. I hope they don't get to perform this in front of a live audience. And if we're being honest it's a horrible BTS song, Ed didn't pull through on this

BUSAYO

That's how I feel about it at least. I'm not art-critic Irene though -- just baby ARMY Irene. I strongly believe that BTS can do whatever they want with their art, and I'm not going to feel like I can be sitting here, saying "No no no, they need to do this other thing." But, and I'm really sorry if this comes off harshly, if this MV had been my only first and only exposure to their music, I'd have moved on without a second glance.

I would have liked my first comment on your Patreon posts to have been a little more positive, so I'm sorry for what follows. I have very strong feelings about this song, but I'm trying to find the words to express my opinion in a way that's not, well, too strong. I don't exactly hate this song, but I find the whole idea of its existence frustrating. It seems like it was written to appeal to my age demographic: people who are familiar with the structure and feel of 80s pop music. Also, people who are confused and dismayed by the COVID changes in the world and want to retreat to a simpler, happier time, maybe. The problem I have with this song is that it's so bland. The feel is there. The structure is there. But when I hear it, I want to turn it off and go listen to actual 80s pop. I feel like whoever wrote this mistook form for substance? There's no "there" there.

That's why dynamite and this song will always sound so much better live.

Fessi fessiibieneisokariari

I totally agree with David and 50% with Danny..... ptd is just what it is a happy vibing song and the you listen to it the more you just wanna stand up and dance

Fessi fessiibieneisokariari

I love BTS, but I didn't like this song, I don't hate it, but I think it's quite boring/too bland in comparison with Butter and Dynamite. So I agree more with Danny than David here. But, of course, people shouldn't be hating just for one "bad" song or just three english songs, we all should respect their path with their music. Even if it's not the best path for us or our own preferences lol. But I think there will be more different songs and different music genres/styles in their future :)

I'm a little heartbroken that they're finally producing English songs and I still can't sing along to a lyrical, meaningful song like say Spring Day or a million others that are strongly written and produced by BTS themselves. I do love Butter tho and it's fun to sing to. I didn't like PTD at first but it grew on me and i really love it now as a fun, happy song. I bounce and sing along to it, so whatever, it's all good.

Charlotte Keith

I'm more with Danny on this one. I don't like this song. But their performances of it are good. The dancing gets me into it. I don't think they've lost their touch or need to go back to their roots or anything like that but I'm hoping this is the last of this heavy mainstream pop sound. It's bland. They can do way better than this.

Joy

Addendum: They won't always have a company and company money behind them. They are banking for their futures. I see Yoongi possibly beginning his own production company someday and he will have the capital to do so. I dont have to love every song but they can do what they want and its not for me to have much of an opinion on honestly. I respect them as the artists and hard workers that I know they are.

SamanthaC

To David's point, I get people wanting artists to maintain their "artistic integrity" and it's become cool in a lot of circles to hate on popular music (pop) in general. BUT, these men are playing it fairly smart I think. They have already put out a superb discography and there's no doubt more to come. Right now its about breaking records and making money in an industry that in the beginning was content to throw them scraps. It's a lot easier to continue to put out the music you want to make, explore other careers, genres, etc when you are rich AF and can afford to fund your endeavors. We'll get another full album in Korean. But if they want to pander to the mainstream in the meantime then who am I to judge? Secure the bag gentlemen. You have worked so so hard. You deserve to rest on mattresses made of money as far as I'm concerned 😅

SamanthaC

I agree with David. I think PTD was the right step for them right now because of butter. The next comeback is not gonna be this, and by that I mean the next song I don’t think it’s gonna be this style or in English. I also don’t get why people are hating on it, they release a song at right time , I mean in the current situation we’re living on I totally respect what butter and PTD is doing and I love both songs.

I think quality in terms of music is just like preference. A song can be complex and in-depth but to people who can't resonate with it, is it quality music? For me, simplicity itself can be a form of quality if I see the value in it. Anyways that whole quality music thing just sounds like a debate between a wine connoisseur vs a normal wine drinker, at the end of everything, you still get drunk on whatever you prefer. I generally like the simplicity in PTD, no in-depth concept or set up with a very simple message. I enjoyed it honestly. To each their own, cheers!

I agree a bit more with Danny on this one. The auto tune was a bit jarring (personally), and I just wasn’t a big fan of the production of the song. However, I really love the idea of incorporating sign language in the choreography –that was super cool! Although this release wasn’t it for me, I’m very glad that there are many people out there enjoying the song for me. Now that they’ve caught the attention of international listeners, I hope their next release focuses more on their uniqueness as a group rather than focusing on a Grammy/Top100. BTS has such potential that I don’t think we’ve seen in their international releases and performances. Like, could you imagine them performing on US award shows like they do at MAMA, MMA, etc? I feel like it’d set a whole new standard on performance here in the US if people see how much they can capture a stage. I wish to see it happen one day!

Let me put it like this, a lot of friends and family don’t give BTS attention because they automatically assume boy band=cheesy mediocre pop music… and BTS discography is everything but that! and now…they seem to be getting deeper into the … cheesy mediocre pop music😭😭😭😭 Lawd help us all, Ed Sheeran set us up!!

Cassandra Carithers

Danny I agree with you! Personally I don’t like PTD at all, It feels really… idk childish and the auto tune is so true!! There were parts of the song where I couldn’t distinguish which member was singing! I respect the boys decisions career wise but I am not understanding, at first I assumed it was for the Grammys but I do not think PTD release was intended to catch the Grammys attention 😅

Cassandra Carithers

Thank you, David. You said what I’ve been thinking. BTS is not going to sing English pop songs forever. I can see them releasing and English track or two in the summer, but going back to their roots or experimenting with other sounds later. Remember, after Dynamite came the masterpiece BE. I see these songs as little treats to tide us over until the next full album.

Jesi Ryan

Also, forgot to say that I had to agree with Danny about the balloon. The first time I saw that scene, all I could think about was (my) kid crying as the balloon went up in the air. 😂🎈

MarlaCat

The song also started to grow on me. I still like Butter but PTD is also catchy. I sort of got what Danny was saying about PTD not sounding like BTS. Butter had that BTS touch because they were involved (at least RM) in making it. I wish if they win a Grammy they’d win for Butter. However, I also agree with David that this is the kind of music they want to do at this time. BTS has always been known to experiment with music and this is what they are trying at this time. As a fan, I still like it and support it. 💜

CJ

Wrote this on the YouTube page, but wanted to copy it here, since there seems to be more discussion here. 100% with Danny on the autotune. I fell in love with their diverse, rich voices, and I miss them so much when they're flattened to that extent with autotune. Also, while I agree with David that we have to respect their path as artists, I don't think that then extends to a mandate to love their newest release. We can hold both opinions simultaneously - I respect and understand why they made this choice and tried this feel AND I can accept that I enjoy Butter more than PTD. The nuanced middle is where it's at. 😊

Emily Ellet

I recall RM saying in an interview (I may be wrong so I apologize) that he hopes people who just found them through their English material will go back an listen to their earlier stuff which, I think, is the core of BTS. I also understand that no one wants to listen to dark heavy stuff when people are jobless, sick, and irritated at the whole covid situation. So knowing that, I honestly didn't put too much though in these songs because happy joyful songs are usually just that. The English songs are not my favorite, but I don't think they are bad at all. In fact, it says a lot about who we are as consumers if BTS has to 'step outside of their boundaries' and do 'something different.' I am not a fan of auto tune either, but if the production people think it's necessary then so be it. It's an easy simple happy song.

PWong

I love this song. There is a lot of autotune in it, but I'm okay with that. Most of what I listen to has a lot of autotune. Why is autotune such an issue? :shrug:

MarlaCat

I like PTD. It was waaaaaaaaaay better than Dynamite. Yes, there was autotune but that's just part of the production process. The English songs are not as good as their own songs. I think the ones going on about their lost identity etc are mainly the Western fans - I don't hear that sort of thing from fans here (in Asia). And David is right about the snooty ones drinking tea on their high horse - nice mixed metaphor :-)

Regards to All

I like Butter better. I know Army wants PTD at #1 but I'm hoping Butter can go another week. Also people keep complaining about English tracks like the BE album didn't happen. Calm down they are doing English tracks as summer bops and a run at a Grammy. I'm sure another Korean album will be out by end of year.

Rakia Bowman

I like the song but I’d probably love it if they didn’t overdo it on the auto tune. They didn’t even need to use it to that level. I would prefer to hear more of their voices. I would love if BTS came out with an entire English album. Doesn’t mean I want all their songs in English. They are at a point in their career where they are able to experiment with different sounds and not lose their entire career. Other groups have tried to do that and it doesn’t work for them. If they want to do this great. If next year it’s something different that’s good too. They have to be allowed to grow as artists. Experimenting with different sounds doesn’t make them less Korean. If they have professional goals they want to achieve and they see a path to do that no shame on them. Just next time I hope we hear more of their natural voices. 👍🏻👍🏻 Funny how at the beginning I was agreeing with Danny and by the end David won me over.💯

Cathy

I really like the song and the message it transmits. They all look great but in my opinion J-Hope looks wonderful.

Natacha Jelincic

I say all this as I’m anticipating another Korean album before the end of they year cause I just feel like this is all in their grand plan. But at the same time, completely understanding that their schedules are jam packed so that might not happen and that’s OKAY. They’ve given us so much music over the past 8 years back to back to back. it seems like now a lot of us are spoiled, whiny, and move on from their art wayyyy to fast. Ok rant over now go stream all the bts music you love!

Pikle Cortez

Completely agree with Danny. PTD sounds like the finale of a High School Musical sequel. I don’t think it has anything to do with English. I like Butter. It has swagger. PTD takes distinct artists and turns them into auto-tuned mush. There’s nothing wrong with BTS doing pop. There’s plenty wrong with PTD.

I agree with everything David said. You don’t need to love every song but you should be respectful. What I see is a group of talented young men experimenting with different styles of music . I’m not going to love every style but it’s been so fun being on this journey with them and watching them grow. You can tell their hearts are in everything they do. As long as that continues I will continue supporting them 💜

Michelle Lanie

Everyone wants to criticize whatever their latest release is. When they did drop Mic Drop, Fake Love, Dionysus, BE album…don’t even get me started with ON….where was all this energy and hype for them then? They are reaching so many people by releasing a couple of English uplifting-high energy songs. They’re reading the market and DE👏🏼LI👏🏼VER👏🏼ING👏🏼. They’re also timing these releases to fit the mood and send positive messages when they think we need it most. All their previous releases are still there for us to listen to. I think if you’re an army you should trust bts before getting critical and assuming you know better than they do about what’s ‘right’ for them.

Pikle Cortez

Yes I agree about the autotune. I love the song, my fave English track yet but damn the auto tune just ruins it. I wish we could just hear their voices it doesn’t sound natural

Toni Ott

Wow I’m early 😂