Exclusive: Throwing knives ARE Good?..
Added 2025-06-17 21:00:36 +0000 UTC
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I think SellSwordArts did a really good short on this... Basically throwing isn't very consistent and daggers are bad for it... but the amount of penetration is well enough to kill or maime if you hit!
BigPurplePops
2025-06-24 19:56:05 +0000 UTC8:15 a little crossbow? Why are you sleeping on that one? You can preload it, shoot it quickly
Dima Shvets
2025-06-21 17:56:54 +0000 UTCGuinness Record holder for fastest bb pellet cut by a sword: Isao Machii https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/106296-fastest-bb-pellet-cut-by-sword
Rob Palatchi
2025-06-21 02:38:35 +0000 UTCTotally off topic, but are the vambraces new?
Anna
2025-06-19 01:31:15 +0000 UTCHere is the thing, a very common thing in fighting games. Covering your approach with a projectile. A throwing weapon can be great not as a backup, but as an opener instead. Even against armor, throw something towards the eyes of your opponent, and it will be EXTREMELY hard to resist the instinct to flinch, even if it's completely harmless and will 99.9% will just bounce off your helmet and won't be perfectly aimed to enter the eye slit or whatever you have depending on the type of helmet. Something coming in the general direction of your eyes will likely have you flinch, disrupting your perception and stance which will make it harder to deal with the person that is running up right behind that projectile.
Seracjuze
2025-06-18 09:46:02 +0000 UTCWell speaking from years of experience throwing many types of projectiles. Including starting pitcher on my baseball team. Knives are the most difficult to throw of any reasonable throwing weapons. (I am using my experience to define reasonable, having thrown everything I am about to talk about from a few hundred to a few thousand times) First thought I have is that knives will only have 25% of their potential damage when throwing them, where as in your hand they have 100% potential. Because you do have to hit with the point to even get that 25% potential, they are not on my reasonable throwing weapons list. I will jump to what I have the most experience throwing, that's rocks. Big/small and every shape! I grew up herding cattle and sometimes the only way you can handle them no matter how fast you are is to use a rock to extend your authority. The effective range of a rock is farther than a knife because of the dynamics of throwing a rock allows for more force to be imparted to the rock. It is also more accurate because it's mass is normally pretty centered. I got so good at throwing rocks I could be running full speed, stoop and grab one let it fly at a cow 15 feet away and hit it on the nose without breaking my stride. Your brain learns to calculate on the fly from the information that you eyes and fingers tell it as you pick it up, what force to use based on weight, and what aerodynamics it will have based on shape andbalance. By the time you are ready to start your forward movement to begin the throw you already know how you need to adjust the mechanics of your throw to hit based on the above information. Someone could get that good with knives.... But at the end of the day at equal skill levels, a person throwing rocks will be more practical than a person throwing knives.... A thrown rock is basically a ranged blunt force weapon. So point doesn't matter It's not about lethality it's about disrupting your opponent. Now on to what I definitely advocate for as the most effective throwing weapon. A dart with fletchings. Even a standard dart used to play darts with, if it's a solid metal tip, and solid shaft with fletchings that are attached, is highly accurate and has good speed and penetration. Especially if you have darts that are specifically weighted to your personal ideal weight. IE just heavy enough to carry maximum momentum at maximum range without over stressing your muscles so you can keep throwing as long as needed. You can ask my brother how effective they are... he has the scar to prove it lol They also can be lobbed very effective too. To drop down almost straight from above with as much damage potential as any knife throwen perfectly, but not needing near the skill level a knife or rock does! They the crossbows of the throwing weapons in my book. And they definitely could be more deadly than knifes with more range than knives and more accuracy too. As a kid I had about 30 that I would take out with me and throw at stuff. I could hit a 5 inch target pretty consistently at about 10 feet. Or 7 inch target at 20 feet. The biggest trick is to throw them fast so the fletchings can do their job correctly!
Joshua Hein
2025-06-18 04:34:35 +0000 UTCViggo Mortensen performed the scene where he hits the dagger out of the air with his sword in lord if the rings purely by reflex and accident. He saw the object coming and swung to deflect. The moment was captured on camera and was deemed badass by the crew and made it into the final cut. Yes, it is possible to hit it out of the air, but I think its a combination of luck and trained skill that do it in the end.
mdog 967
2025-06-18 02:49:36 +0000 UTCI sense a carnival games episode coming up!
WAA
2025-06-18 00:37:50 +0000 UTCPocket Sand!
WAA
2025-06-18 00:33:32 +0000 UTCThrowing the sword was definitely a thing in HEMA sources. I'm by no means some amazing knife thrower, but no-spin definitely works guys- and I have some big honkin throwing blades. As I see it from doing some SAFE sparring tests with simulator weapons, the biggest thing is that the other person sees a big melee weapon in your hand that absolutely can be a functional melee weapon- BUT you can unpredictably throw it and from that short range it can be very hard to avoid - in testing we found it really hard to stop. The other thing is that getting your bell rung in a helmet by a piece of steel (well, even hdpe in our case) can still suck and be disorienting even if it didnt actually hurt you. With a weapon like this - if the opponent isn't armored up anyways - functionally your reach is always theirs + a little. It's also the ability to break their structure and make them dodge from range - a little movement of my arm but opponent makes a big motion, and nobody's sitting there thinking "ah yes well this is rotating such that it will hit on the flat" - and even that could suck pretty bad depending on the weight. Throwing knives function like a weird reach weapon where you have to close, but it gets more dangerous as you do, instead of less.
Andrew
2025-06-18 00:30:49 +0000 UTCThat brown armor looks like you are wearing horseshoe crabs
Anon Y Moose
2025-06-18 00:17:34 +0000 UTCPractice and distance
Anon Y Moose
2025-06-18 00:12:45 +0000 UTCCan’t wait for the follow-up vid! I think (as with most things) you’re both right but it depends on the context. Can you deflect a thrown dagger? Probably sometimes but probably not most of the time. But does deflection count as “anything that stops the dagger from hitting you lethally” then you can probably, more times than not, while in full armour, “deflect” the dagger. Also what are all the caveats you give the thrower? Because you probably lower the deflection chance if the thrower has a marked point at which they know distance and throw the dagger. You probably heighten the chance if it’s a desperation throw by the thrower to distract you. But what if the distraction was the point so yeah you deflect it but you’re weaker to their follow-up attack? These are all caveats and considerations I know the Shadiversity crew actually consider and take seriously. Great vid guys!
Aren
2025-06-17 22:27:49 +0000 UTCNice video overall. You both had valid points. I think range is something you should have touched a bit more. Law of impulse tells us that m1v1 = m2v2. In the knife throw context the impulse would be fully transferred, but in the real world gravity and air drag for a knife profile plays a big role. The further the target the less the penetrative power will be. Even against simple cloth. And with range the oponent can dodge easier. There's always the possibility that the knife's handle will hit while the target moves just a bit away or forward(in case of spining which arguably has extra centripetal force) And in close combat a fight is usually accompanied by armor/ shield. Recovery time is different too for light and powerful thows. (Which affect penetrative power a lot.) I think if the hit isn't instantly lethal or incapacitating and the opponent is close the knife thrower may not come out.
msTRON
2025-06-17 22:23:28 +0000 UTCSorry Shad but the hit rate for a baseball player is not high. 3 out of 10 is considered fantastic. You may need to find a new example. lol
Bill Kennedy
2025-06-17 21:34:30 +0000 UTCI wanna stab that guy but he's way over there.
Micskittles
2025-06-17 21:03:45 +0000 UTC
