How to Avoid the Legal Pitfalls of a Transferrable H&K Auto Sear (Ad-free)
Added 2024-04-29 12:00:05 +0000 UTCOne of the particularly popular transferrable machine guns out there is the H&K auto sear. Since H&K grip and trigger assemblies are interchangeable between 9mm, 5.56mm, and 7.62x51mm guns (ie, MP5, HK33, and G3) a single registered full-auto grip assembly can allow someone to effectively have three machine guns for the price of one (albeit only one at a time). However, there are some potentially very expensive and dangerous pitfalls for someone acquiring one of these without a full understanding of the law and the technical details.
In short, an H&K upper receiver that has the ability to fit a factory full-auto grip assembly is considered a machine gun by ATF, just like an AR lower with the third pin hole drilled. If you have a registered standard factory full-auto grip, any gun it can attach to is also by definition a machine gun. Instead, the proper way to do this is to register a grip assembly that is modified to fit onto factory semiauto receivers. This sounds pedantic and strange - and it is - but it is a complex and tricky area of law and ATF rule making. If you are planning to put tens of thousands of dollars into a transferrable H&K, you really ought to have a clear understanding of these issues before you make a purchase!
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hk's do not go for 35grans do they?! for that kind of cash I'd want a freaking stoner at least a I don't know... negev. rpd. but no sissy 9mil (though way cheaper to feed).
Guido Schriewer
2024-04-30 10:47:04 +0000 UTCand then there are those shady people of certain organisation whom don't geve a drop of rats p..s if it is any leagal to file some metal off and drill a hole. frankly the magwell area convertion is a pretty simple affair for any craftsman. that's a joke.
Guido Schriewer
2024-04-30 10:38:19 +0000 UTClegally a m16 lower is the machinegun. ok. where does the fullauto bolt carrier is in that definition? is that a free to purchase part stateside?
Guido Schriewer
2024-04-30 10:32:12 +0000 UTCyou kind of watch too many, even if kult, movies in times. hohoho..... jokes aside: the 5 ok. if one doesn't have a 53/33 by chance.... who really wants a funswitch g3? unless you want to get rid of a loose tooth or so. there is a reason why brits issued fals only in semi... doable on full yeah... but how.
Guido Schriewer
2024-04-30 10:29:42 +0000 UTCOuch! Sorry to hear that :(
Forgotten Weapons
2024-04-29 19:15:29 +0000 UTCMy sot buddy is in hot water for this right now. Atf wants to make an example out of him.
Rupanrx
2024-04-29 19:14:09 +0000 UTCOkay, I'm not even in the right country to have much use of this, but it was a very interesting video! It does very much highlight the bureaucratic idiosyncrasies of American firearms legislation. Like, dear gods above, I feel for you that you have to keep track of this stuff, even though you're very luckily in being allowed to have machineguns at all...
Loke von Post
2024-04-29 16:49:10 +0000 UTCThe only gun law that makes sense to me is: "...shall not be infringed!", everything else is stupid.
Alfred Gawron
2024-04-29 14:44:30 +0000 UTCDefund the BATFE. Bureaucratic overreach at its finest. The HK MP5A2 is my dream SMG. Now for the $$$…
Rick Notkin
2024-04-29 14:03:34 +0000 UTCIn the 80s when the ATF and media were hyping the assault weapons are easy to convert to machine guns mantra - The ATF in all its wisdom decided that some conversion parts were also tantamount to machine guns. (e.g. drop in auto sears) Then - In the run-up to the 86 ban, clever SOT manufacturers, etc said great, this part (e.g. Uzi bolt, HK sear, is a "machine gun" I want to register it which the NFA branch at the time would allow - so we have these parts like an Uzi bolt or HK lower you can own as surplus parts or as a machine-gun - just seems inconsistent.
Kenneth Marshall
2024-04-29 12:14:43 +0000 UTC
