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Real or Fake? Authenticating an 1897 Trench Gun (Ad-Free)

Authentic World War One 1897 trench guns will have:

Serial number between E613,000 and E705,000

High quality rust blue finish

Solid frame

20-inch cylinder bore barrel (with no bead)

Muzzle in lone with bayonet lug

Handguard with six rows of holes

Bayonet lug with a bead sight and either "PAT APPY FOR" on the right or patent dates on the right

Stock with a thin wrist, high comb, no fluting, and no stamps

Hard plastic commercial buttplate

Sling swivel on stock

Authentic World War Two 1897 trench guns will have:

Serial number between 921,300 and 986,300 (but most between 930,000 and 953,000)

High quality commercial blue finish

Takedown frame with "U.S." and (usually) flaming bomb stamp

20-inch cylinder bore barrel (with no bead) with flaming bomb stamp on top of chamber

Muzzle extending approximately 1/4" beyond bayonet lug

Handguard with four rows of holes (except some very early ones with WW1-type heat shields)

Bayonet lug with a bead sight and patent dates on the right

Stock with a thick wrist, low comb, flutes, and inspection stamp (either WB or GHD) with crossed cannons

Hard plastic commercial buttplate

Sling swivel on stock

Real or Fake? Authenticating an 1897 Trench Gun (Ad-Free)

Comments

Oh, how wonderful it would be to have cheap but working clones of good old 1886 or 1897 shotguns.

Lance Thundercock

my lady would need that norinco clone. love the 97 looks but rather grab a side by side myself. I like the finish just fine, not as much as a fine blueing though!

Guido Schriewer

I wish Norinco's were $300.

Kenneth Marshall

Surprised you didn’t pull a WWII gun off your lap just to flex.

Terry

Yeah, that caught my attention.

ViejoLobo


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