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Why Are Short Barreled Rifles Actually Regulated in the US? (ad-free)

The simple truth is that short rifles and short shotguns were never a problem, and continue to not be a problem today. The 1934 National Firearms Act originally wanted to restrict handgun ownership, and the clauses relating to SBRs and SBSs were simply to close the loophole of a person cutting down a rifle or shotgun to get around a handgun prohibition. That handgun (effective) prohibition was removed before the legislation was passed, but the SBR/SBS parts were left in. And thus for 89 years we have has the ridiculous legal situation in which a handgun is fine, a long gun is fine, but something in between is prohibitively regulated.

One major change to the NFA came in 1968, when the minimum legal barrel length for rifles was dropped form 18 inches to 16 inches. Why? Because the government had already sold a quarter million M1 Carbines - with illegally-short barrels - to private citizens, thus rendering them all felons. Instead of trying to enforce a clearly irrational law, Congress reduced the barrel length stipulation.

With this issue once again coming to a head over pistol braces, it is time to finally solve the problem and end this nonsense. Short barreled rifles and short barreled shotguns (and AOWs) should be removed from the NFA entirely. Their regulation is a waste of law enforcement's time and a massive bureaucratic burden on individual citizens, who are faced with felony convictions and 10 year prison sentences for utterly harmless actions.

Why Are Short Barreled Rifles Actually Regulated in the US? (ad-free)

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I have noticed that in the "cycle" of new anti gun law proposals, the antis are always seeking "gun reform" . Our side is always trying to fight to give up as little as possible. Problem is just that--we are giving rights up. I propose that when a new anti gun law is put forth our side counter with an argument to eliminate or modify an existing law in our favor. Examples would be removing suppressors from a category of "controlled firearms", advancing the the date of 1898 for a firearm to not be considered a firearm, federally, to say 1940 (arbitrarily), or adding handguns to C&R transactions. In other words, stop being defensive when negotiating new firearms regulations. If the antis had to consider the chance of their side loosing something they might not be so quick to propose new restrictions.

Thomas Batha

Totally agree

Reed Gregory

Yeah, the inflation point is interesting. Just the other day, I was watching O’ Brother Where Art Thou, and that $20 they leave behind after they steal the pie is like leaving $350 on the window sill if that happened today(I assumed the movie took place around 1930-1932).

Jerry Harkins

The ATF has always looked at possession of a short-barreled upper as nothing; but possession of a short barreled upper in the barn and an AR-15 lower with a stock in the house as “constructive possession” of an SBR. Look up interviews of former ATF instructor Dan O’Kelly. Joel Persinger (GunGuyTV) has done several of these. The extent of the ignorance of firearms design and the firearms statutes amongst ATF agents is shocking. It is likely that just such ignorance was the initial basis for their classification of arm braced firearms as pistols instead of SBRs. The fault for this vast 10-million-gun re-classification can be found there. The re-classification should be considered a legally-invalid enforcement trap, but it likely will not be, given the “designed or…intended to be fired from the shoulder” language of the 1968 GCA. Be careful, this is not a state misdemeanor a local city ordinance. The full resources of the Federal government’s Department of “Justice” is behind this malignant nonesense. The current administration has designed and intended this re-classification rule to be a dangerous threat hanging over ordinary gun owners to intimidate and put us in awe. People, many people, are going to be raided and prosecuted over this.

Jack Wakeland

I really like the AR because of its modular platform makes it like a Swiss Army knife. I've got 2 lowers and 4 uppers that I can swap as I want. AR15 lowers are the ONLY part of the firearm that is serialized requiring a ATF4473 and background check. The AR15 UPPER (receiver, bolt, barrel etc) has no such requirement. They are purchased by mail, over the web, or in gun stores, just like any other accessory, like a brace. The folding stock, adjustable stock, fixed stock or "pistol brace" attach to the lower. If the AR15 lower has a full length barrel (16 inches or longer) mounted AND a pistol brace, it can't be considered a short-barreled rifle. Can it? However, if you have a full length stock on your AR15, and mount a 10 inch barrel upper, it IS considered a short barreled rifle. I guess that ATF screwed up by NOT requiring AR15 uppers with under than 16 inch barrels to be registered as NFA items in the first place.

Earl

I am aware of several people arguing that the ATF should not be alcohol tobacco and firearms but should simply swap out the F for C thereby making it alcohol tobacco and cannabis!!! 🍸🚬😶‍🌫️

Paul Beck

Ian, do you have a tax stamp for this video, because it’s a ‘knowledge bomb’.

Erik

Ian - obvs massive long time fan of your channel, to an insane degree. I know this one was sort of off the cuff/responsive in nature, but wow - such great, relevant and interesting info. Thank you for providing this timely perspective.

While I agree pretty much 100% with Ian's proposal I also agree that in our current political and cultural environment having common-sense reform of firearm regulations is about as likely as common-sense reform of drug and immigration regulation: The debates on these are so hugely predicated on cultural and political concerns as to push the common-sense portion into obscurity.

Matisse Enzer

The narrative states that the short barrel & stock makes the 10/22 more deadly than the S&W .500 Magnum. Yeah, that is intelligent.

EyeBall

So a 8" barrelled 10/22 with a stock is an SBR and hence regulated etc, but a 8" barrelled .500 S&W Magnum without a stock is just fine? Seems sensible... 😂

Gavin Rea-Davies

what about a bakers cavalery caplock double repro? blackpowder grandfathered? BS laws. try this sh... in most places within eu. worser... there is just plain simply NO logic behind any of those laws.

Guido Schriewer

More fundamentally, the ATF has no actual authority to infringe on our rights, or to approve their exercise.

ViejoLobo


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