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This Jungian Life
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SPECIAL Q&A for Patrons

Hey Patrons,

This week we’re chatting about a newly submitted question.

Here’s the link to the discussion:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/evtzkrk5ctwp6fk/TJL_176-PATREON.mp3?dl=0

Let us know what you think.

~ Joseph

Comments

Love TJL and this tidbit format and your insights. What came up for me is that the Ants are the ones who know how to create society. In Mayan guiding story, our world periodically deteriorates so much that it must go dormant. (I believe we are at end stage 4th World, not yet into the 5th World.) The Twins at either pole of the earth turn it over. Certain humans (those who remember) remain and go underground to wait until it's time to reemerge as the world is reborn. There they learn from the Ants how to rebuild society, and then come up to the topside world and begin again. If this was my dream, I'd wonder if the Ants were coming up to visit me and check in about how I'm offering what is ripe in me to help rebuild society at this time of dire beauty.

Dreams always teach us something we don’t know: Basically, this dream snippet gives us very little context or a frame in which to personalize the dream, but maybe it does illustrate a mechanism by which we are able to grow and learn, even if we are not immediately aware of it. The dream venue is the kitchen, a place where food is kept and nutritional preparations are made. The ripe fruit suggests that there are nutrients ready for consumption, but maybe not yet ready for conscious consumption, because the ants suggest the consumption is being performed from beneath the floor, from the unconscious. Given this scenario, the dream seems to suggest that the ants are unconscious processes that have come forth to assimilate or process the fruit which is ripe for consumption. Also suggested here is that the ants are essential ingredients of consciousness just as they were for the tasks of Psyche and the young suitor in the tale of the White Snake. The dream shows that what we learn may not be conscious at first and that the unconscious sets the stage or frame (or as I prefer to think, the field) on or into which conscious learning can be presented. Overall, the dreamer has grown in an awareness that they are not conscious of, yet. And even if the dreamer is never conscious of the change, it will reverberate throughout any awareness that rests on those now assimilated unconscious and foundational assortments and shape them. Teaching is not always obvious. We can be so much smarter than we think we are if only we can learn to trust the ants. Bill

Deb's observation that the dreamer likely did a lot of things that day, but the unconscious picked this one thing among them to dramatize in a dream, clearly marks out the path to answering the dreamer's question. As always, an enlightening conversation. And I love the idea of short single-question Q&A segments. They're manageable for the listener, offering a helpful focus to those of us with limited time and attention!


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