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PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Women are cheap

PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Women are cheap

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More than 80 percent of men today cannot support a wife. So, when I hear Alexander emphasize that men don't care what a woman earns? Not caring is being delusional for most men seeking a partner. Let's get real and stop pretending that it's still 1950.

Roger Hayden

Yeah, the message of the video isn´t about feminism, he just touches on the subject. It´s directed to all women. If I would guess what Alexander´s thoughts on the subject, it would be something like this (same as me): Feminism in the past: equality of opportunities, right to vote, right to have a job or carrier, right to study. Do everything any man can do. Feminism today: We got all that but it´s still not enough. There is wage gap (untrue), and we want to cherry pick all the good stuff men do (like pick up culture) but none of the things they dont like (like spliting the bills). I read some good material today saying that women actually used to work in the past too, although not all sorts of jobs were available to them, but they had to work too, only rich families could afford a stay a home mom that doesn´t make any money. It was the world wars that normalised that, since the men were away, the women could take those jobs and that´s how it stayed since.

GUNSHIP

Just avoid selfish & materialistic people, period.

RhodiumMaiden

drizzle drizzle king

Jason Belle

GUNSHIP: I agree, provided this qualifier: it doesn’t matter for the essential message of the video. I disagree, provided this qualifier: It matters in the sense of how ppl think of feminism (which was not the essential message of the video). If ppl think of feminism simply as all women’s thoughts, it’s kind of useless. If ppl think of feminism as the ideology of particularly spoiled, arrogant, hurt women, it is not sociologically nor historically accurate. I think that no matter how you flip it, there’s nothing in the video that portrays these women as feminists. Feminism might be a very broad term, w/ different «waves» and flavors, and one of the problem w/ words is that somebody has had’em in the mouth before you, true. But even so, none of the statements of any of the women in this video could be categorized under any of the waves of flavors. Hence my question to Alexander.

FutureBliss

Begs the obvious question: What do YOU mean by a "Feminist", and what does Alexander mean by a "Feminist"? I get the impression that very VERY many modern women (if not MOST) consider themselves "Feminists" when asked. What do THEY mean when they say it? Alexander appears to be defining a "Feminist" as someone who believes that men and women are EQUAL--hence the frequent "50/50" references everyone seems to use. Personally, I MUCH prefer the term "equivalent" to "equal", to allow for the fundamental DIFFERENCES between the sexes, but modern Feminist doctrine does not appear to acknowledge these.

Joseph Omega

It doesnt really matter if those women were feminists or not. The logic applies to everyone, all women, being a feminist or not. Untill about 150-200 years ago women were not a part of the work force, and didn´t make any money, so obviously men had to pay for everything. As soon as women started working, that is gone, there is no more reason to justify this behaviour.

GUNSHIP

Hi Hermann, its my bad I should have made my view clearer in terms of target -women who expect you to pay for everything when they can afford to pay for themselves. If as Alexander said, we are talking of a partnership, or where there is imbalance in wealth & earnings and the better off partner wants to do all those expensive things, then yeah sure that's on them to be considerate and cover the difference. But when someone can stand on their own financially, but expects to have everything paid for in return for their company and sex, then I stand by my original point.

Anthony White

Alexander, you make a lot of assumptions that many (all?) of the women mentioned in this video are self-declared feminists, right? But unless they’re making that statement themselves, isn’t it an assumption of yours, and even an unreasonable one at that? Why should one assume that most women who are put on a dating show, or interviewed in the US around club areas during the night, necessarily identify as feminists? If it’s in a women in a panel discussion of a social movement conference in the Nordics, it’s at least a fair *assumption* that she’s a feminist, but I do think labels should only be used when there are sources for it, or it is undoubtedly clear. I hope this makes sense. I agree with the overall message in the video and find lots of value in your videos in general. Bcz it’s so seldom there’s something I disagree with, and that you can improve on, I’ll try to be a bit more pro-active when I do see it. Like this time.

FutureBliss

That's a bit of a hard take imo, but I get it. The trade looks very much like: You pay and maybe I sleep with you afterwards. However, it is important that this is not the original trade. Traditionally, the sex part was so deeply intertwined with children, that it was really about the ability and willingness to provide. You take away the children and the whole thing looks a lot like Prostitution.

Hermann

Great point, if she is not willing to go 50/50 on a date what else will she not be willing to go 50/50 on?

Anthony White

Whether you are male or female, if you are financially successful, and you have your date pay for everything until you finally have sex with them, they have paid to have sex with you, and that makes you nothing but a cheap whore.

Anthony White

I should think that I have traditional values, and with that I ought to bear the burden of expenses during courtship, and above all, ensure her safety while she is in my charge. What is off-putting, especially with the *sprinkle sprinkle* horde of modern women, is the entitlement and utter lack of what used to be considered basic etiquette. While a man should not expect quid-pro-quo for his treating a woman, it should neither be expected nor be taken for granted. Problem is, you can't reason entitlement out of a woman, nor should you even try. For one to seek and accept equal contribution and partnership in a relationship would require some semblance of empathy, fairness, and decency. When women are used to preferential treatment, fairness in any aspect will be construed as an affront to their self-worth.

Hyperion

There is a difference between being frugal and being cheap, and she should understand that. Even from the very first date, if I open the menu, and it’s three times the price I was expecting, I am willing to walk away, and I have. She understood. If it was just twice what I expected, I would have bit my tongue and stayed, but I wouldn’t have been happy.

Eric Linden

Good message Alexander. The girl I am dating now is a student and is pretty broke. I'm comfortable in my finances. So of course I pay for almost everything. I expect that in THIS situation. But the last couple of minutes of this video summed up how she could make it up to me. When she won't do the things she's promised me like cooking a few dinners a week it's irksome. When I've given her 5 orgasms and she complains she doesn't want to continue playing around after I've had my one that's also really annoying. Women have a huge biological advantage there, so to get 5 for 1 and also have pretty much everything paid for... it really leaves a guy feeling taken advantage of. Damn right I want more!

P Bear

If someone (male or female) cares about the relationship and its future, then they will be careful with money. Especially when the relationship involves children.

Mark Bryski


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