A Note from Nate Regarding Our Lineup
Added 2018-11-26 19:46:21 +0000 UTCHello everyone,
First of all, thank you so much for your support of our show. It's because of you that we're able to make this a consistent program, and we really do appreciate the fact that you're willing to subscribe.
After a period of deliberation, Adrian has decided to leave the show. Francis and I are greatly appreciative of the work that he did for us, both in the beginnings of this program and recently, but we all agree that there are irreconcilable political differences based on both his opinions and what he's able to say publicly in his current line of work.
We put out a bonus episode earlier today that I edited, and I expressed some consternation about it because -- while I think it was absolutely done in good faith -- I felt it didn't engage on the topics that it needed to. We didn't create this show to be an echo chamber, but we didn't create it to be a garden of platitudes, either.
I'm not a centrist and I don't believe in engaging the center in any capacity other than to admonish them to pick a side. I refuse to break bread with the right in any capacity, even if we have shared goals like anti-imperialism or anti-militarism. Francis is more willing than I am to give people a wide berth if he thinks their hearts are in the right place and that they don't compromise on basic values, but he agreed with me that certain lines are important. And, behind the scenes, we've had a lot of debate about what kinds of programs to run and what kinds of guests to bring on. That has led to disputes on the show and off it, and in light of these Adrian has decided to move on.
You might also have noticed from recent show notes that Karl Morand recently departed as our producer. I'll be producing the episodes moving forward, so there's obviously been a lot of churn in the past few weeks. That said, we're committed to meeting our Patreon tiers each month, specifically with the idea that there will be a new bit of audio bonus content at least once a week. I plan to leave Adrian's episodes up. He also has an upcoming one where he interviews members of the Socialist Rifle Association, which he's asked us to produce and release. I plan to do that next month.
Anyway, I do this for a living now. Between this show and a few others I'm able to stay afloat here in the United Kingdom, so I obviously have a personal interest in making sure it's a success. I am very grateful for your patience with us, and I hope that in the year to come we continue to grow and to retain listeners. If you have any comments or suggestions for me or Francis, please feel free to post them here or to send them via DM. Thank you ever so much.
All best,
Nate Bethea
Comments
Hopefully, you all can find a way to work Adrian back into the fold in the future -- circumstances permitting. The three-way convos in particular have been great. I don't think the most recent interview is one of the old clip file, but on balance he's added a lot - especially with respect to his insights re: Afghanistan, Ukraine and Eastern Europe. The Independence Day Extravaganza last year was also a classic that benefited greatly from his contributions. Otherwise, love the podcast, and appreciate the good work that you guys do.
J P 3
2018-11-28 08:37:22 +0000 UTCAdrian was a good foil for Nate, I'm a (white male) dumbarse and wouldn't have realised that having cops regulate what people are saying on Facebook is a bad thing, had Adrian not advocated for it and had Nate not convincingly argued against it. I also feel like Nate has a forceful personality and a counter to that is a good thing (even though I agree with Nate on almost everything). I'm sad to see Adrian leave. But it is understandable.
Liam McDermott (JeevesBond)
2018-11-27 22:11:14 +0000 UTC“Chief” from that one episode here. Given my current circumstances, I can appreciate where Adrian is coming from in terms of speech restrictions; if that were the only sticking point, then an amicable split makes sense on its own. However, I can also very much appreciate Nate’s decision to draw the line regarding what ideologies he will accept. In my situation, I’m not permitted to voice much of my strongly held beliefs, and I don’t get to decide who I work with based on ideology. That’s one of the reasons I support the show - it provides me with an outlet that I can’t get anywhere else. I’ve always enjoyed your work and I look up to you guys for your moral compass and willingness to work towards making positive change. Thanks for what you’re doing.
Chief O'Keef
2018-11-27 10:46:21 +0000 UTCThat sucks I guess. Not going to say I didn't catch the friction, but it still isn't fun to see a good guy go. Solidarity
Dylan J.
2018-11-27 06:15:26 +0000 UTCI appreciate your work and see your voice as an important counter to the right wing nonsense that surrounds the military, particularly with public perception. Like many I feel far less alone in the world because of your work. When I talk to people it often surprises them that a vet feels this way. My views are closely aligned with Nate's and although I respect Adrian I can see the reason for the split. I will continue to throw in a little cash, perhaps more as you continue. Thank you for putting your voice out there. I point to you to show people I am not the only one who holds these views. In appreciation and continued solidarity, Eric
Eric Phillips
2018-11-27 03:11:37 +0000 UTCFrancis here. The plan isn't to close off the silo, and we aren't planning to change any other aspect of the show. I am a firm believer in reaching a hand out to centrist libs and yanking them bodily to the left until they agree that everything I say is right or they tell me that want to smooch George W Bush. Overall nothing much else will be changing, we're still going to yell about America being shit to everyone who isn't a rich white dudes and still going to watch terrible action movies
What a Hell of a Way to Die
2018-11-27 01:29:57 +0000 UTCGotta say, I'm disappointed in Adrian leaving and by the closing in of the thought silo. I came to the progressive left from libertarianism. There were people whom I respected who never stopped engaging with me, and I didn't close myself off to different points of view. I realized that there were some common goals, there was just a hhuuugggeee discrepancy on how to achieve those goals. And that common ground is where alot of my changing views started, and I started to adopt progressive views in other areas. If it wasn't for that initial bridge, I'd still be skipping my smooth brain across a lake. I just joined the patreon after listening to you guys for free for a few months. I'll keep supporting you guys because I believe there continues to be a need for non-right wing veteran voices, I just hope you rethink your position on engaging with people who disagree with you.
John Jacob
2018-11-26 23:34:21 +0000 UTC