Exclusive Patreon Podcast, Electric After Dark - The Key to Being Cool!
Added 2021-11-22 11:28:32 +0000 UTCDon't take my advice in this ep too seriously ha! XD It's mostly just for fun and talking about getting to that mythical cool status for the genre ;-)
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yep absolutely, there is a ton of projection that I think is over simplistic and self comforting for a lot of the dejected writer types ha. High school and the complex social systems that form around it fascinate me endlessly because it's basically a time in everyone's life where we are the most tribal and primitive when it comes to social interaction ha.
The Electric Underground
2023-08-14 15:24:39 +0000 UTCA lot of those who are not considered cool in school go on to college where their personality types are more lauded, and there they kind of live a second childhood. A lot of Hollywood screenwriters are natural outsiders in school, and in some ways their lampooning and vilification of the jock character is their revenge on the in crowd. This goes for the bimbification of women who are considered the most attractive in high school as well as jocks. And it probably has something to do with the prevalence of the manic pixie dream girl archetype. Which itself is under fire at the moment.
Wolfwatching Music
2023-08-12 00:26:57 +0000 UTCPsych researchers have said there appear to be certain basic subject patterns that people don't get tired of. High status people falling and low status people rising to the top seems to be endlessly interesting to us, and has been since ancient times. The theme of the weak overcoming the strong is timeless, though in fiction the weak invariably win through a superior hidden strength of their own. We seem to hate weakness, which is why even social justice movements tend to focus on 'brave' victims overcoming, or at least fighting to. By a similar token, punishment for violation of 'the natural order' and/or socio-cultural norms is another eternal theme. Even sympathetic fictional outlaws and anti-heroes are typically pitted against overly cruel authorities.
Philip Mason
2021-12-08 05:13:56 +0000 UTCHa for sure! So I think at it's best this is definitely on point and there are a lot of great shows like this. The 21 Jump Street reboot is a great example of that ha. But it also does seem to be a pretty worn in trope with lots of media that is coming out right now.
The Electric Underground
2021-12-07 23:17:46 +0000 UTCThe thing about Hollywood screenwriters is not so much that they don't understand that a lot of the football jocks end up running businesses in adulthood, it's that they're writing toward the desires of their audience. There's this thing called rehearsal theory, that fiction is basically interesting to us because it allows us to vicariously live through and rehearse solutions to life problems. The unlikely outsider rising to the top is one of the most common motifs in fiction precisely because everyone will face it at some time or another, and we want to see successful strategies demonstrated as to how to do it. That being said, yeah, a lot of those plots don't work out so well in real life.
Philip Mason
2021-12-07 06:14:16 +0000 UTCI'm glad I had a ton of fun on this ep. Yeah foster wallace had a ton of talent, but I think he ended up getting caught up in that awful negative spiral. Being lionized as a complete genius may seem like the best thing ever, but I think it can be a dangerous avenue to go down as well.
The Electric Underground
2021-11-28 01:36:53 +0000 UTCGreat rambling as always 😀. Strange coincidence, was thinking quite a bit about David Foster Wallace this week, what a sad story...
Martin Wöhrle
2021-11-26 12:07:18 +0000 UTCYeah it's an interesting topic that I don't think ever gets covered because there is this really in-grained story about how to advance upward socially is to become a celebrity or something. Like the old returning to your highschool reunion but now your famous or whatever ha (Hollywood loves this). When really the process is much more of this slow gradual advance where you are going to have to take some heat constantly but once you break through you'll gain acceptance. The thing is that even though it sounds dumb, it can be massively beneficial to both your social life and career! Or in the case of gaming, getting shmups out there more.
The Electric Underground
2021-11-22 20:49:15 +0000 UTCI just found out im a social climber too haha, stopped climbing a while ago and dont care that much anymore witch in fact makes me even more cool. Im 31 and i dont feel old yet. 40 year olds are old for now.
Jimnakkum
2021-11-22 14:10:24 +0000 UTC
