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Pill Pod 214 - Derrida: White Mythology III (exclusive)

We close out with a duo of Erik and Pills on the end of White Mythology, and we get to, finally, what he meant all along...

Pill Pod 214 - Derrida: White Mythology III (exclusive)

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Didn't Aquinas admit something like language being metaphorical at the end of his life?

Nicholas Leach

In foodchains of noun and verb, processes exchange substances. Shapeshifting images, shorthand negatives osmosing from their environment, form: desire, will, emotion, consciousness, truth, god, time, existence; all interpretation. Symbols have gravity, pragmatisms, localised multiverses of probabilities binding orders in near consistent utility. Conversely there is drift, similie expands into metaphor, or fully dissipates out of existence. Fine vacuum pockets between layers widen into gulfs, rich with the mutagenic complexity of surrounding multitudes of other layers' edges, inconceivable process as capillaries for the creative urge. Chaotic antigravities, absurdities, slippage of meaning as an environment for creation, and also a force making it an inevitability.

Alex B

No entendí ni vergas de esta serie... Haha but it motivated me to see speech as metaphorical. Very interesting introduction to the critique au logocentrism.

Fernando Pineda

The closing remarks of why it may be hard to hold an audience for this trifecta of episodes... I think maybe two reasons, coming from the perspective of someone who really enjoyed them. 1) The metaphor of the sun was held off until the end, at least as a focus, so you sort of mirrored Derrida in his writing of having the big payoff at the end. 2) to enjoy the writings, most listeners would have to admit that most of their western philosophical "seriousness" is built on a really shoddy nounified metaphorical foundation taken. People don't like to hear that something they have insofar taken very seriously may have a fundamental blindspot. 9:00 flowers as pointless, just a reflection of sun. The pointless or insignificant comment is obviously human centric. Flowers mutually coarise with insects for propagation. Their shape, color, attributes interare with the pollinators. There is also a weight being applied to their temporality, giving the sun some advantaged position over the flower per its temporal period, vs the repetitive period of the flower which occurs with each revolution of the earth. The flower never does disappear. It becomes the seed, the soil, the plant and the flower again. A cloud never dies. 14:00 beyond just the sun during the day and during the night, or sun on sunny day or cloudy day, we also select the sun in the phase of the sun our sun is, vs a red dwarf, white dwarf, black hole, dead sun, etc. All of these metaphors ultimately fall victim to the central understanding of Buddhism: impermanence... and if all things are inherently impermanent, there can be no singular sun or truth, because nothing except impermance is sustained. And so then you get the eastern metaphors of impermanance, the dao that cannot be spoken of (except in metaphors of the impermanant, which are still understood to not be impermanance and to hold their metaphorical goodness or badness impermanently). 18:28 cool cat. Is it not that we first know the feeling of being a cool cat before seeing a cool cat, and upon seeing a cool cat being a cool cat it connects as it were towards our own experience or moments of cool catness. As in, in order to understand the cool cat it was always already a "person" experience of cool catness, and we simply see it personified more consistently in a cat, or, since our own experience is invisible to go back to Ponty, the cat provides a visible manifestation of the internalization? That they are mutually coarising, our own recalling of cool catness with the cool cat that evokes that recollection? 21:00 Aristotle being suspicious of messy becoming, the verbs. Again, you see the eastern contrast of impermanance, nothing but becoming, nothing but verbing. Oh nice, vibing --> verbing. Verb coding. Verb coded. 29:22 the single centered circle circuit vs ellipse dual centered circuit vs no, circle is just an ellipse with the two centered stacked on top of each other and just acknowledging or viewing the one "on top." But an ellipse only has one center, one radius and two essential components, it's really just that the radius of the circle doesn't oscillate but an ellipse does. So really it's not a different in center but a difference in radial stability or periodic oscillation. Why does the circle get so much love vs ellipses in philosophy? 58:45 the living truth as oxymoron. Yup. The moment you nounify something you petrify it. 100:49 if Derrida was so well read, knew everything about every philosopher, then why are there no references to eastern philosophy, particularly when where he ultimately arrives at it so closely? Surely he didn't go his entire life never having read any eastern philosophy?

ageOfBumFires

Due to not having a lot of time to really sit down with this essay, I accidentally did a weird thing and read the whole essay as fast as possible, thinking more through images than words. Now I'm convinced that this is how he intended it to be read. I'd love to see someone turn this essay into a silent hand-drawn animation with sunflowers turning towards a sun that becomes hollow and unravels like a reverse ensō painting, with gardens revealing more flowers that are being pressed in books while coins are being rubbed off, palimpsests, things turning inside out and morphing into each other...

Vesna


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