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Pill Pod 188 - Marx Personally

We watched the film "The Young Karl Marx", reviewing it as a film and comparing it with other sources so as to speculate on Marx' personality.

Watch the film first! Found it here

Pill Pod 188 - Marx Personally
Pill Pod 188 - Marx Personally Pill Pod 188 - Marx Personally

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Was wondering where I heard that name Weitling before and remembered it was from Rosa Luxemburg’s reform or revolution. She name drops him and says Bernstein was devolving to him but not as good.

Jack

They are, to some, different worldviews and ideologies. I agree that both movements have had common goals, and they even have shared power in different revolutionary moments with mostly catastrophic results. About how to bring down capitalist hegemony, I don't know if you can conceptualize something like that in its own terms. It's like that story of the fishes arguing about the water they swim in.

Mario Mario

I'll have to check some of that out. My understanding is that it's different approaches to the same goal. If the shift to multipolarism is the start of capitalist hegemony falling, then perhaps both approaches are vindicated (as well as accelerationism as a military strategy)?

Alex B

Anarchism as a distinct political faction did not exist when Marx was alive, there was the worker's movement and a lot of gurus that workers used to engage with, e.g: Proudhon, Lassalle, Bakunin, Blanc, Marx himself, etc. You can listen to actual anarchists like René Berthier stating this point and explaining how anarchism will not take hold until the 1880s in Italy, with the likes of Malatesta, and these Italians would later go on and spread their ideas to the Americas, mainly to the USA and Argentina. Marx, however, had a lot to say about Proudhon, Lassalle and Bakunin.

Mario Mario

Did Marx share an opinion on anarchism?

Alex B

At 1:02:20, Erik means Lucretius (he's the swerve guy), not Epicurus. Thomas Nail has quite a bit of interesting material on him and the history of materialism and motion.

Zadine Lenin

Thomas Nail works with Marx’s dissertation in Marx in Motion. Fun stuff!

Mike Ramer

Yall will get a kick out of this if you haven’t already: https://youtu.be/LOFIHp6aTuE?si=Pq881jPsn9c6yljf

David Florentin

1:05:00 to 1:06:00 The boss's account of Marx 😆. I 100% see myself this way in my own reading and note taking tendencies, but curious enough not in my material projects and activities outside of reading itself.

ageOfBumFires

Did anyone actually listened to Pills, let the pod simmer and watch the movie first? How?

Mrityunjay Awasthy

I apologize before hand for being annoying, please pardon me, mea culpa. In the middle ages there was a common literary genre of “mirror for princes”, specula principum and also similar literature genre like mirror for nature, history, doctrine, alchemy, etc. Aka how things “appear” ( latin specio for to look for and observe, but also it spreads for example an animal species comes from the same word ) vs how they actually work which we can obtain via critical thinking and wisdom. And this is not just a middle age thing, it goes to Plato and before Plato for the Eleusinian Mysteries of the suburb of athens, Elefsina / Eleusis involves a drug that made you trip balls and you look at a reflective device / a mirror and you realized their are aspects of cognition besides what one is commonly associated with for the drug makes you have an “out of body experience” that helps you prepare for death for you feel their is an afterlife beyond appearance. There is a reason why the republic of plato is written like that, with the myth of er where the dead return is the last story of the 10 books. And we know in real life the line where the temporal lobe meets the parietal lobe (tempo parietal junction) and the line where the parietal lobe meets the occipital lobe (anglur gyrus) is involved with attentional switching, morality, self vs other, but also where the visual stream interacts with language and long term memory to make all these work (white matter tracts see this as a brain hub, that radiate outward to other brain areas, SLF 1, 2, and 3 known as the Superior Longitudinal Fasciculus, AF known as Arcuate Fasciculus, MF known as the Middle Longitudinal Fasciculus.) I appologize with this medical jargon. Well on hallucination drugs these hubs do not communicate as well, they are de-synchronized, so you are experiencing like it is a first exposure instead of a past experience. And when one is not on drugs but in a fmri machine one has to use these hubs to reorient your attention like switching from object to object attention like someone throwing a baseball to another person vs self vs object attention when someone is throwing a ball toward you or vice versa. ====== Back to Smith, and political economy. The Scottish Enlightenment theory of "moral sense" tradition of Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 3rd Earl of Shaftesbury, Francis Hutcheson, and David Hume. Well Hume was exposed to it at age 18 and wrote on it till 30 with the book that troubled Kant, and woke him from his dogmatic slumber. It operates under the principle of mirroring, that specula I was talking about earlier. And since David Hume was best friends w/ Adam Smith this in turn informs Smith’s Theory of Moral Sentiments and the sequel Wealth of Nations which all use the principle of mirroring to explain things. Which in turn informs Hegel’s Phenomenology of Spirit and how it is structured where we get things like it starts with the Senses with A, then goes to Self Consciousness with B and then with Reason it is both C and AA simultaneously for appearance and vision is not enough to explain reason, for reason is recognizing other people / taking turns / mutual recognition etc. And all future chapters are BB, CC, DD with Spirit, Religion, and Absolute Knowing respectively. I am saying in a too long about, round about fashion (once again I apologize) that Marx when exposed to Smith and Ricardo via Engels became aware of a long forgotten sister Canon with the Scots and the English that were not like his German upbringing. A cousin tradition that shares the same forgotten frameworks. So of course he got excited / dedicated his life to this stuff. Thank you for the joy the pill pod brings. Mea Culpa for my length.

Matthew Theisen

Ah, finally the pod enters the chasm of German cinema

Florian F.

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