Patrons-Only: New Army Poll Results
Added 2022-01-25 13:10:51 +0000 UTCThe poll results are in, and all we can say is, wow, what a ride!
Saying that this has been an overwhelming experience is an understatement, with over 300 messages and more than 4300 votes, we have never seen such a response before.
We are very happy to see how excited everyone is for all of the designs we've come up with, but alas, we have to make a choice. Let's see the results!
Poll Results
The fantasy poll vote was mainly split between Daemons and Ratmen at 23%, then Goblins at 17%, both undead at 13%, and finally Orcs at 10%.
The sci-fi poll had a huge 75% Yes result on doing Battle Sisters, and for the rest we had the Dwarf Guilds at 28%, Daemons and Machine Cult at 23%, then Infected Colonies at 13%, and finally Soul Snatcher Cults at 11%.
Winners: Daemons, Ratmen & Battle Sisters
The results show that both for fantasy and sci-fi, the Daemons are fan favorites, probably because they're usable in both settings. Right behind them however, we have the Ratmen and the Battle Sisters, which are too awesome not to make.
This has thrown a huge wrench in our projections for 2022, but we have a plan!
Since the Daemons are both usable in fantasy and sci-fi, and they will take at up around 8 release slots, we don't think it's fair for either fanbase to have to take the hit of 8 months of continuous Daemon releases, whilst the other gets both those and their own release.
So what we're going to do instead, is that once the currently planned factions for the first half of the year are completed, we'll speedrun our way through the Daemons. We'll be releasing only Daemons for around 4 months, to get all of 4 of them done ASAP.
Then, once the Daemons are done, we will be releasing Ratmen for fantasy, and Battle Sisters for sci-fi. Basically, in 2 polls, you got yourselves 6 armies, congrats!
New Roadmap for 2022
With all of that in mind, here's the updated roadmap for this year:
- Jan - Beastmen + Dynasty
- Feb - Beastmen + Dynasty
- Mar - Beastmen + Dynasty
- Apr - Saurians + Dynasty
- May - Saurians + Jackals
- Jun - Saurians + Jackals
- Jul - War Daemons + Jackals
- Aug - War Daemons + Change Daemons
- Sep - Plague Daemons + Change Daemons
- Oct - Plague Daemons + Lust Daemons
- Nov - Ratmen + Lust Daemons
- Dec - Ratmen + Battle Sisters
What about the rest?
We know a lot of you are excited about all of the other army concepts we've shown, and we will absolutely get to all of them at some point in the future.
At some point later this year we'll be making a new poll for either classic or original factions (still to be decided), which will include more concepts for additional armies, making the choice even harder for everyone. :)
With that in mind however, we're not very happy with the fact that due to how polling works, some of the less voted factions might be left behind for a long time, even though there's a lot of people that want them (10% of our audience is still 650+ people). Here, we have two ideas on how to move forward, and would like to hear your opinions in the comments.
The first idea is to have each poll feature 5 factions, but randomize which factions are available to choose from. As we've seen from the poll comments, people are excited about ALL factions anyways, so no matter what, there will be something for everyone.
The second idea is to hire additional help to work on some of the lesser voted factions separately, and release those outside of the Patreon. This could be done via crowdfunding, and would ensure that they don't clog up our release pipeline.
Anyways, that's it for today, 2022 is gonna be a great year. :)
Happy wargaming everyone!
- Gaetano
P.S.: For those of you that have been around for a while, you may recall that we were originally planning on releasing the sci-fi Saurian Starhost this year, but with this plan, they would only be coming out after the Battle Sisters in mid-2023.
Since we know a lot of people are excited about them, we're currently looking into the possibility of releasing them via crowdfunding instead (matching the Patreon price so you're not getting screwed), but nothing is confirmed yet.
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IMPORTANT UPDATE
We got a ton of messages since we revealed the poll results, we've heard your concerns, and we're going to try to find a solution that is realistic for us to achieve.
In order to not leave Saurian Starhost fans hanging, as well as give you something more to chew on than just Daemons for 4 months, we're going to try and see if MAYBE we can release the Saurian Starhost as a third army alongside the rest, starting in July.
Regarding the Dwarf Guilds, we're going to try and fit them into our production schedule the earliest we can, but MAKE NO PROMISES right now without more time. We hear your excitement for them, and we love the concepts too, so we'll try to get to them ASAP.
That being said, this whole polling process has been quite jarring, and is making us re-think the way that we involve the community in our future plans. We still want your feedback, but without setting up wrong expectations that might not fit into our production schedule.
At the end of the day, supporting us means getting on board with our vision for our games, so we should change our feedback collection method to reflect that better.
The idea is that in the future, we will provide a big pool of concepts like we did right now, and only collect feedback on what fans think of them. No results, no winners, no roadmaps, just a way for us to get a sense of what our community is leaning towards.
Then we will use that to set our own schedule and adjust concepts based on the feedback, and keep releasing awesome miniatures for you all to enjoy. :)
Comments
there is not remotely a full release of sisters lol, you're high
sully
2022-03-31 02:50:06 +0000 UTCJackals are a sci fi race currently under Tao coalition ("Kroot inspired") being expanded with new unit types and becoming their own thing
Ben uWu
2022-03-02 11:04:18 +0000 UTCJackals arent beastmen?
Lilian
2022-03-01 03:59:10 +0000 UTCNo, but thanks fro the offer.
onepagerules
2022-02-15 18:33:32 +0000 UTCIs there anything I could do to help build you web army builder.
Kostovick Joseph G
2022-02-15 18:07:56 +0000 UTCAs long as you are happy, it's all good.
eenor5000
2022-02-03 23:14:13 +0000 UTCWe did not push the Battle Sisters back a full year to make Daemons. :)
onepagerules
2022-02-03 23:10:45 +0000 UTCI want to start by saying this is not a complaint, I am very happy with the direction things are going and love Onepagerules as a whole, I was just wondering about the road map. You guys clearly want to make the Battle Sisters, your patreons are perfectly fine with Battle Sisters, yet you pushed them back a full year to make the demons. It seems like Sisters/Ratmen could go first then switch to demons. Keeping your subscribers happy is nice, but if you loose your passion and end up forcing yourself to spend months slogging through models you don't want to make, you'll burn out then everyone looses. Maybe I'm biased because with the Eternal Dynasty, Beastmen and Saurians I will have all I need for my Pathfinder/Starfinder games through 2024, but I would hate to see you loose your drive trying to please everyone.
eenor5000
2022-02-03 22:37:55 +0000 UTCI mean I pay around £10 per month for patreon to you guys and get soooooooo much stuff that realistically if I want a model, say from the saurian army with the tier 2 discount i'll just go buy it! The way I see it is im still saving probably £70+ on what id be buy from say GW. Amazing work on the models and the supports they are printing perfectly thanks for the hard work!
Tim Smith
2022-01-30 21:22:48 +0000 UTCArtisan's Guild January Release is Vampires
Shane May
2022-01-30 14:52:33 +0000 UTCJackals? Awesome! one thing which I wasn't the biggest fan of is that the Dynasty has no auxiliaries or mercs to work with them. seriously curious about what you'll come up with Jackals, Ratman and the Star Saurians.
Lord Hamster
2022-01-28 21:35:47 +0000 UTCI too was wondering what happened to the Dwarves since they were the popular vote. I would have expected them to be released before the Demons.
Paul Buss
2022-01-27 16:01:04 +0000 UTCArch-villain and last sword both have some good ones. IMO vampires are really readily available in the miniature space, on the same level as lizardmen.
Anonz
2022-01-27 05:48:55 +0000 UTCI also am super bummed that the Dwarfs won the sci-fi vote but then somehow got left out of the release road map in favour of a faction we already have a full release of, and would only be getting a revamped version of. I also would say that they should be the crowd funded faction as opposed to the dwarfs
Ray Wehlow
2022-01-27 01:30:51 +0000 UTCWas hoping Vampires would do better. Been trying to find nice ones to make an army out of. Can find dwarves, rats and orcs/gobbos by the bucket loads out there. So anyone know of a good maker to get Vampire armies, especially nice calvary models from till OPR does it?
Travis Webber
2022-01-26 22:04:01 +0000 UTCIn a post some time ago you have stated that you won't make the flying units for the Legion in particular, that is what i'm refering to. That was without explanation or mentioning a "for now", so could only be interpreted as a final decision. If it is related to technical or design issues and you will actually make then at some point then that obviously is a good thing (Bit more infos about the why and when would be much appreciated.). Still, would've preferred a complete army to play with. As for the Guardians, maybe i order a couple of them to lift up my tanks in the meantime to keep airspace supremacy.
Jaridion
2022-01-26 08:38:46 +0000 UTCThats awesome. I´m very happy with this.
Falco
2022-01-26 02:38:48 +0000 UTCI have to add my voice to those that aren't overly pleased about several months of pure demons, doubly so that the Starhost has been bumped in order to accommodate them. I feel like maybe bumping the Jackals might have been a better choice or, given that it's such a large project, making the demons a crowdfunding campaign and concentrating the patreon on getting more armies finished, such as the Dwarf Guilds who technically beat them in the sci-fi pole.
Allan Rodda
2022-01-26 02:28:16 +0000 UTCDwarf supporter here. Since the Battle Sisters were a Yes/No vote, wouldn't it make more sense to have that release be the crowdfunding release and then the Dwarves for the SciFi release? I'm excited that you're excited about the Battle Sisters, but if I knew I was voting for Battle Sisters OR Dwarves in terms of prioritization, I would've voted "No."
Tanner Christensen
2022-01-26 02:25:25 +0000 UTCThe mention that the cost of a crowdfunding pledge would be comparable to getting the army through patreon. I would imagine if you don't back the crowdfunding campaign then purchasing the army would cost the same as any other army on the MMF store. Of course you then have the frequent discounts on MMF, so who knows.
Allan Rodda
2022-01-26 01:12:57 +0000 UTCThe starhost was on the schedule for this year already, they got bumped in favour of demons and sisters.
Allan Rodda
2022-01-26 01:07:18 +0000 UTCI am not opposed to the crowd funding idea to perhaps get some of these armies to see the light quicker. I do have concerns in regards to how those who supported the crowd funding and for those who didn't get access to those miniatures. Specifically there will be people who have the money to support a crowd fund in their budget the month(s) of the crowd fund and those who will not but still would have liked to have supported it and voted for wanted a specific army. Of course we have to discuss costs in regards to return on investment for the crowd funding project. Is there perhaps a specific leader unit that is exclusive to the Crowd funding that will not be available vie myminifactory for a period of 12 months. Or the army which might not be available for X amount of months where the backers of the Crowd fund do have access to it. Transparency over what specific benefits someone who backs a Crowd fund has. My thought process is in any crowd funded projects, the people who originally backed it get exclusivity to a specific set of models, or a better price point then those who did not. Latter down the line, those who did not get a chance to back the crowd fund also have access to the vast majority of models, but then have to purchase them through something like myminifactory. Something to perhaps throw up on a later poll and consider.
Eric Davis
2022-01-26 00:35:03 +0000 UTCRegardless of my personal opinion, I am certain that the sculpts will be nothing short of gorgeous.
Michael Zabkar
2022-01-25 23:43:57 +0000 UTC7500 subs to release all voted on armies????? I can wait two months :) Seriously...awesome models....awesome ideas....JUST FRIGGIN AWESOME
Christopher Talbot
2022-01-25 23:11:36 +0000 UTCDang, Orcs lost out. Oh well, every single other option also looks awesome, so I don’t mind the wait!
Matt Ramos
2022-01-25 22:59:45 +0000 UTCMaybe a silly question but: how many new patreons are needed to hire enough new ressources to release one extra set per month so that you could add all these new armies in the monthly sets? Like one Fantasy set, one SciFi set and one extra set that will be half the time Fantasy and the other half SciFi. Increasing the throughput then. (as an alternate way to the kickstarting solution)
Machin Chose
2022-01-25 21:35:22 +0000 UTCEven though i dont play any of the factions released this year. Im happy to continue. This way i can have friends that dont have armiers have thier pick. I am not a fan of crowd funding. Im happy to wait and see. I might change my mind when announced. Depending on cost. Keep up the good work.
Ashfield
2022-01-25 21:22:31 +0000 UTCThis sucks about Saurian Starhost I didn't see them even on the list to be voted for are they would have been my number 1 vote for sure.
Tharehl101
2022-01-25 20:41:10 +0000 UTCIf the Demons were instead broken down into 4 factions for each of the havoc gods, you might get an even split of the demon votes which would be 4.3% for each - which would have meant no demon factions would have won.
Scott Woods
2022-01-25 20:26:25 +0000 UTCthat makes no sense
sully
2022-01-25 20:11:40 +0000 UTCI really like that you have such a transparent release mode going. Congrats on + thx for that! I would love to see Dwarfs at some point, since they scored so high and I like them :)
Benjamin Neuffer
2022-01-25 20:02:24 +0000 UTCWell, everything you release looks great, so I just hope that you just keep releasing them. Maybe within many many years we'll have all of them :D
Filip
2022-01-25 20:00:34 +0000 UTC+1 for Goblins and Dwarfs.
Benjamin Neuffer
2022-01-25 20:00:08 +0000 UTCGurdians on the RL list can have a jetpack upgrad -> flying
Sebastian Baumruker
2022-01-25 19:53:01 +0000 UTCThey are doing an avarage of 6 armys per year. 2 of those don't have a GW counterpart this year. Considering all of them are not just potential GW proxies but first an formost OPR miniatures I don't think you have to worry. The beastmen should have illustrated nicely that they are moving away from the GW stuff significantly. I've read more people complaining that the models are not as good for proxying anymore than the other way round.
Sebastian Baumruker
2022-01-25 19:48:20 +0000 UTCNot excited about the demons since I have so many but at least with the roadmap I know which months to unsub for. I don' t mean that in a bad way, your transparency is one of the reasons I enjoy your content but not everything has to be for everyone.
George Martinez
2022-01-25 19:34:15 +0000 UTCNot really bothered about the Deamons tbh but I'll take the Ratmen and hope for my preferred Goblins and Dwarfs in a future set
TheWhiteWolves
2022-01-25 19:20:24 +0000 UTCWith the quality level coming out I would support an additional crowd funding project for additional armies faster.
Ted Soper
2022-01-25 19:16:24 +0000 UTCI would have been hyped for *anything* but tired GW retreads, knock-offs, and trope-troops.
Michael Zabkar
2022-01-25 19:09:08 +0000 UTCBattle Sisters, Lust Deamons, and Lust Sisters
Robert McRae
2022-01-25 18:54:56 +0000 UTCSadly nothing here that will interest me for the next 12 months, so i'll tap out for a while and hope to see y'all in 2023. Keep up the great work :)
Adam
2022-01-25 18:53:04 +0000 UTCJust like any other army we make. If you didn't like Beastmen and Eternal Dynasty, you'd also be "screwed" for a few months. The only difference here is that you got to vote.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 17:53:35 +0000 UTCPersonally I support the idea of the crowdunding system. Really hope that we can get the other armies faster that way :). Big fan of the demons so I dont complain about the schedule but I see a lot of comments here against the demons. So they should probably be released over crowdfunding. Just a thought. I dont mind and will be a supporter either way
Narses
2022-01-25 17:53:30 +0000 UTCSo if we didn't like Deamons we are just screwed for 3 month. Grwat :(
Joe Root
2022-01-25 17:50:56 +0000 UTCAre you speaking specifically about aircraft, or some other units? We still haven't gotten into making aircraft yet, because that's a whole other level of engineering that we're not currently ready for.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 17:45:28 +0000 UTCI see your point, but I think that people come here because OPR is doing things they recognize. I came for Alien Hive and others will come for Chaos and Battle Sisters. So they kind got to do some recognizable factions and since everything is decided by voting anyways, it seems like people want to have these. Would've been hyped for 40k Saurians as well, or 40k ratfolk
Mäx Rakete
2022-01-25 17:38:17 +0000 UTCyeah, second this. I'm not really interested in the demon stuff and would rather spend money on machine cult or faster dwarves-release or soul snatchers or whatever.
Mäx Rakete
2022-01-25 17:30:46 +0000 UTCAs much as I hate to say it, since I love the tau. I think staying away from them is for the best. Hard to top piper makes and you already have some unique armies. I would just leave them as a just a datasheet for those of us who love them. While I am not a fan of daemons I voted for them just because one army can work in two games so I will most likely print some out just as an extra army.
Joshua Ates
2022-01-25 17:29:49 +0000 UTCSupercool roadmap for the year, and thanks for putting that out there - even though we want every single possible faction in the polls to be made, it's good to know what the year ahead holds so we can plan accordingly for our printing and not get other STLs of those since they're coming.
morgan light
2022-01-25 17:26:38 +0000 UTCWill you create all units listed in your datasheets for these armys this time? Or will some of them not get flying units for instance, like the Robot Legion and thus make the whole army printing thing -at least consistency wise- a waste of time? (Yes i'm still very dissapointed after reading this.)
Jaridion
2022-01-25 17:12:39 +0000 UTCWell I have negative interest in Demons in either genre, once their done though I'll be there for the Rats
House Hendoe
2022-01-25 17:03:57 +0000 UTCThat was my thought exactly. I must have missed a post.
Jared Rutledge
2022-01-25 16:50:17 +0000 UTCOriginally, we were going to make TAO + Jackals, but then TAO turned into ED. In any case, we decided to keep the Jackals. More info on them later today.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 16:45:18 +0000 UTCI'm looking forward to all releases. I like the idea of getting something from Age of Fantasy, and something from Grim Dark Future. I'm more in favor of having completed armies ASAP because then I can plan consistent painting schemes and use the army sooner. The more the patron gets split up the more frustrating it gets. I'd rather just get an army done, even if it's one I'm not particularly excited for like Sisters. A working and complete army checks off a happy box in my head. It's been painful to wait for Saurians to finish. I don't want to go through that kind of delay again. Let's check off completed armies. Armies are options. I'll learn to love them once I can use them in their completeness. :0)
Jonas Fox
2022-01-25 16:30:08 +0000 UTCWhat are the Jackals army?
wayne mccrory
2022-01-25 16:28:10 +0000 UTCHonestly didn't care what won, everything looks fantastic, very excited to see the infected colonies/ Vampires whenever we end up there. Damn fine work overall.
Efutue
2022-01-25 16:25:53 +0000 UTCThe fun part about the OPR system is that you could play Ramen in either setting. If you really want them to be Sci-Fi you can paint weapons like "Power" weapons from 40k; Power Sword, Power Bow, Power Sling, etc!
D1gital-ZER0
2022-01-25 16:24:05 +0000 UTCSmall-scale stuff is still being worked on, current estimate is mid-2022.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 16:22:02 +0000 UTCWe have no intention to be in line with GW's releases, after all, we are trying to do our own thing here. Small-scale stuff is still being worked on, current estimate is release mid-2022.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 16:21:55 +0000 UTCI would love to see Ratmen done as both sci-fi and fantasy. I think a lot of Ratmen models could be used in either with just some weapon swaps then have a couple fantasy specific beasts and scifi specific machines or battle armor and voila, Ratmen for both systems.
Daniel Hanson
2022-01-25 16:17:10 +0000 UTCThey aren't "completely" different though. Ratmen & Demons are completely different, and that's why they won. Ghosts and Vampires are both undead factions - which I personally don't mind at all, but suggesting both factions in the one poll splits the votes of undead players. Same goes for orcs and goblins. Heck, in the post OPR even refers to them as "both undead at 13%".
Scott Woods
2022-01-25 16:13:46 +0000 UTCI'm not surprised that Sisters and Daemons are coming up next, but I was surprised to see the Ratmen and Dwarves as the other winners. I wonder some people are thinking the dwarves could be used as alternate models for the Kharadron Overlords. I'm not the most excited for the Daemons or Sisters, but my wife is really excited for the battle ladies, and the Daemons do look good. I've got the new Saurians and Jackals to look forward to though, so I'm happy. Very curious to see what the Jackals look like. For the Daemons, since we're getting them for fantasy and sci-fi it might be a cool idea to get some variants with high-tech bits to add some variety. As far as crowd-funding, I wouldn't mind some armies going to Kickstarter, as long as the price remains roughly equivalent and neither the Patreon nor the Kickstarter suffer from less quality or model count. I can understand why some people would be against the idea, though.
Kyle Bentley
2022-01-25 15:57:48 +0000 UTCWell...this is disappointing. Instead of original content and sculpts, we're going to get what numerous other Patreons and sculpting houses are producing... Knock-off 40K miniatures for disenfranchised 40K players...and the same re-hashed factions over and over, at that. Skaven, Beastmen, Battle Sisters, and Chaos. At least the Saurians are included for this year. The rest of it is a waste of tired GW tropes. I'll still support you, of course. But this year's roll-out is underwhelming.
Michael Zabkar
2022-01-25 15:51:17 +0000 UTCLove the results and looking forward to the releases. But next time maybe don't number the legend... thought first Goblins won =)
Clemens Christopher Fuchs
2022-01-25 15:44:02 +0000 UTCThey're two completely different factions though
Lunar Havoc
2022-01-25 15:43:18 +0000 UTCI'd be all for you guys picking your favorite less popular faction and experimenting with the crowdfunding. (particularly if that less funded faction was, say, machine cult, or ghostly undead, lol.)
Cygwulf
2022-01-25 15:21:30 +0000 UTCI like the release schedule :). I thought it was going to be a clog in the middle but it seems good to me!
scabrat
2022-01-25 15:14:42 +0000 UTCAny news about "epic", mini scale minis/armies?
Boguslaw Olszak
2022-01-25 15:07:01 +0000 UTCYou'd probably attract more patreons if you kept slightly more in line with GW's latest releases. I subscribed to Ghamak about 4 months ago to print off his Russian Sisters files. I'll be interested to see what you do with them, but I don't think i'm very likely to go back and reprint another version of the same army. Any word on the 10mm files? Appreciating the current Dynasties range though!
Kevin Derrington
2022-01-25 14:59:43 +0000 UTCcrowdfunding some of the armies sounds like a wonderful way to find more people. I totally support going that route. Sounds like a great idea.
Tricyclelad
2022-01-25 14:59:18 +0000 UTChttps://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=q%2bDQrVkD&id=929E7C8137924C91CCEFBFEA0FCB73A59F32E5D7&thid=OIP.q-DQrVkDoopYB4WQxFX9RwHaEK&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fpbs.twimg.com%2fmedia%2fDJizrEoW0AAkg0k.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.abe0d0ad5903a28a58078590c455fd47%3frik%3d1%252bUyn6Vzyw%252fqvw%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0%26sres%3d1%26sresct%3d1%26srh%3d731%26srw%3d1300&exph=288&expw=512&q=take+my+money+meme&simid=608039160241799259&FORM=IRPRST&ck=5D069F4E07BAFE31788C899BA59BD1AB&selectedIndex=17&qpvt=take+my+money+meme
Michael Cannon
2022-01-25 14:55:48 +0000 UTCI'm onboard for anything you guys make, my only gripe with this particular poll is that you split the undead category into 2 armies - vampires and ghost. If you combined their results you get 26% as a clear first place for "undead". As a big undead fan I do find that mildly annoying.
Scott Woods
2022-01-25 14:54:14 +0000 UTCAs far as the poll goes, I prefer the first idea. You guys put out such great content that I'm willing to wait a little longer for quality. I definitely am among the individuals who are happy with any of the choices! Keep up the great work!
SwankySpud
2022-01-25 14:44:09 +0000 UTCIll be back for the Battle Sisters, Squats, and Skaven though.
Erik Waring
2022-01-25 14:41:27 +0000 UTCFour months of only demons? Yeah, nah. Im not staying for that. I know its a lot of peoples jam but I have 0 interest and if its only demons there's no reason to keep subbing those months. Bad plan imo.
Erik Waring
2022-01-25 14:40:12 +0000 UTCShocked Space Dwarves pulled off the sci-fi poll. We just need to do it again next time! 🤘
Jesse White
2022-01-25 14:37:35 +0000 UTCI feel like saying "Battle Sisters won with 75%" is a bit of a cop out when the question was just if they should be made at all. If you wanted it to actually be fair you should have just put it in the poll alongside the others
David Störmer
2022-01-25 14:24:53 +0000 UTCA'ight.
Philip Lorenz
2022-01-25 14:24:11 +0000 UTCI find this very acceptable. I assume the Jackels resemble but are legally distinct from the lollipop guild...I mean the Kroot, but will they look like jackals or spiky chickens? On a side note, I just wanted to thank you guys for what you do. Not only do you give the best value for your patreon, but your mmf is easier to navigate and better grouped than any other store I have seen.
eenor5000
2022-01-25 14:20:09 +0000 UTCHonestly hell no, lots of people sub for the great value offered with two armies, I wouldn't want to pay double the amount
Shmelvin Joestar
2022-01-25 14:15:51 +0000 UTCSince I'm one of the few not stoked abut the Deamons I'm glad to see that the next few months look like this: Feb - Beastmen + Dynasty Mar - Beastmen + Dynasty Apr - Saurians + Dynasty May - Saurians + Jackals Jun - Saurians + Jackals Now I just need to check out the concept work for those, since I haven't see those. :-D
Sebastian
2022-01-25 14:11:24 +0000 UTCI mean technically birds are dinosaurs
Adrian Schütz
2022-01-25 14:09:52 +0000 UTCPolls always generate bad reactions, other patreons removed them for this reason. For sci-fi dwarf it is better to wait, specially for those who wants them for WH40k because if some rumors are true, squats should come back and Sororitas is a nice alternative army to them. If crowfounding speeds up the releases of sone armies, it's ok for me.
Lind
2022-01-25 14:09:40 +0000 UTCUnless you do some heavy conversions, I don't think that the fantasy ratmen will be suitable for sci-fi, sorry.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 14:00:04 +0000 UTCWhat I’d really like to see is a complete re design of earlier Alien Hives Models specifically the Grunts, Warriors, Hive Lord, and carnivore Rex. These designs are more birdlike in appearance which is off putting because everything else is solidly Reptilian Dinosaur Aliens. A side note on the Soul Snatchers, I love the design.
Samuel Durfee
2022-01-25 13:59:41 +0000 UTCok I understand, thank you very much, and excellent work
Volrath
2022-01-25 13:57:18 +0000 UTCOriginally, we were going to make TAO + Jackals, but then TAO turned into ED. In any case, we decided to keep the Jackals. More info on them later today.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 13:53:15 +0000 UTCOriginally, we were going to make TAO + Jackals, but then TAO turned into ED. In any case, we decided to keep the Jackals. More info on them later today.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 13:53:12 +0000 UTCWe wanted to keep it simple. Having just a single vote forces people to choose. If we do a tiered poll, we might get a bunch of factions with similar votes. We have done stuff like that before, and it lead to inconclusive results.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 13:51:34 +0000 UTCHonestly I voted yes on battle sisters and for the soul snatchers 😂, however untill those come out I have worlds of things I haven't printed or painted untill then. I don't think any of us are short on things to occupy and keep us busy. A year goes fast sadly. Do what you think is best for your time and product. I like elements of all of the armies. Looking at this month's models I've seen growth in the concept and modelers skills, vs when I initially found this patreon, that's all I ask. We all will still be here. 👍
Mikah Kriyjkes
2022-01-25 13:51:31 +0000 UTCWill any of the fantasy Ratmen be usable for the scifi version? I have one daughter who plays Battle Sisters and another who plays Ratmen, so the end of the year has the potential to be very exciting ....
BDS
2022-01-25 13:51:16 +0000 UTCwho faction is Jackals?
Volrath
2022-01-25 13:48:39 +0000 UTCCool, thanks for the update. Seems like next time you should keep the numbers to yourselves because once ppl latch on to percentages they get upset ha. Not super stoked on Deamons but that’s only because I don’t really understand how to play them. That being said I wasn’t stoked for DV until I saw what you guys did. Now I love them so there’s that ha.
Nicholas McCurdy
2022-01-25 13:45:39 +0000 UTCOf course Battle Sisters won. They got their own yes/no pull. Very easy to get high score, and can't really be compared to the other factions scores.
Christian Nielsen
2022-01-25 13:42:21 +0000 UTCAdmittedly I was a bit ....reluctant...about crowdfunding at first glance. Why pay extra for something I would get here eventually? BUT: There are lot of really nice lesser voted factions and since I am like "No-Patience Man".....Let's try it! We can still go back to the randomized polls, if crowdfunding proves to be "meh".
Chris R.
2022-01-25 13:40:48 +0000 UTCwho is Jackals?
Volrath
2022-01-25 13:38:58 +0000 UTCI'm one of the people that voted daemons and I'm happy to see I'll be getting what I want but I can't deny that dwarves won the sci-fi poll and rats lost (narrowly). I think in future you'll probably want to roll the battle sisters in with the new army vote because I voted for yes on that too. Or if you're going to exclude an individual army from a general poll like this make it a crowdfunding thing like you're planning with the starhost. Hopefully will lead to less confusion in future and dismay as you can see from the comments so far.
Biobasher
2022-01-25 13:36:22 +0000 UTCWould love to see my beloved orcs coming this year...Willingen to crowdfund them
Bhaal72516
2022-01-25 13:36:16 +0000 UTCIn fairness, most of this year's roadmap was already laid out
Mark
2022-01-25 13:35:44 +0000 UTCWas just about to suggest something similar. With this many options it's easy to paint the wrong picture as far as community interests goes
Aviad Madar
2022-01-25 13:35:25 +0000 UTCI approve of this message.
Laurentianminiatures
2022-01-25 13:35:08 +0000 UTCsi, muy triste
Volrath
2022-01-25 13:34:21 +0000 UTCEverything will be priced in such a way that grabbing the models via the crowdfunding would never be the worse deal for supporters.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 13:33:47 +0000 UTCJust that they won't be a part of the regular patreon schedule anymore and will have to get them in addition to. Not a huge issue just a mild inconvenience.
Ryan Paul Michel
2022-01-25 13:33:45 +0000 UTCAlso I would add: rather than just selecting one, giving out scores to each might have painted a more nuanced picture: rate every option from 1 to 5, along the line of: 1 not interested at all 2 not really my thing 3 they're OK 4 I like them 5 I absolutely want them
CQ
2022-01-25 13:33:03 +0000 UTCSame for me..
Bhaal72516
2022-01-25 13:32:47 +0000 UTCYes, it was meant to be skewed, as explained in the poll post. We want to make the Battle Sisters really badly, and only if people voted No on them, then we weren't going to make them.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 13:32:16 +0000 UTCGreat idea...I would also accept to Support a SciFi and Fantasy Patreon if this would mean I xould ger even mote fractions..I collect both but currently I am more interessed in fantasy stuff.
Bhaal72516
2022-01-25 13:32:13 +0000 UTCI don’t know that I like idea of doing some armies outside the patreon. For one, why throw away 4 months of subscriptions for a Kickstarter. But also I would feel a little annoyed if my army choice was thrown on a crowdfunding campaign and forced me to decide I should cancel my patreon here for a couple months just so I could budget in a Kickstarter pledge. Not even considering that we have the discount codes from the patreon to incentivize not backing the Kickstarter and just buying the files with the MMF discount later.
Alex Adams
2022-01-25 13:31:55 +0000 UTCYes, it was meant to be skewed, as explained in the poll post. We want to make the Battle Sisters really badly, and only if people voted No on them, then we weren't going to make them.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 13:31:04 +0000 UTCI wonder why the sister werent just part of the scifi vote like the others? It kind of feels like that helped them tremendously, bc Im sure many ppl said "yes" as in "yeah sure why not" rather than "this is my first choice for scifi". I voted no and for daemon in scifi so Im happy with the outcome, but Im just surprised at how the poll was built.
CQ
2022-01-25 13:30:58 +0000 UTCIf I may, the battle sisters should have been with the others scifi races. 75% of people voting "yes we want battle sisters" doesn't mean they would have lead the scifi race poll.
altminus
2022-01-25 13:30:47 +0000 UTCI have to wait a year for battle sisters! :(
Michael Peterson
2022-01-25 13:30:04 +0000 UTCYeah, but if you ask the question like that it's pretty skewed from the beginning. It's a bit like you ask people if they want universal healthcare and then ask them which other policy they like. Universal healthcare will always be popular and will always win if it is a "yes/no"-question. The other options don't really stand a chance. I am not fighting, here! I think Battlesisters are pretty much the universal healthcare of minitature wargaming and should always be picked. I just feel the sci-fi poll wasn't really necessary from the start. That said: like the stuff. Will not complain about substance.
Philip Lorenz
2022-01-25 13:28:16 +0000 UTCBattle Sisters lead with 75% Yes vote.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 13:27:28 +0000 UTCStarhost not delayed, but released via crowdfunding instead.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 13:25:37 +0000 UTCI was one of those looking forward to Soul Snatcher Cult. Especially since how their look is linked in to Alien Hive. Perhaps seeing them crowd funded will even mean they get released sooner rather than later. I know there are very talented artists out there and with you guys overseeing it I am sure we will still get a good result.
Costa Gauci
2022-01-25 13:25:33 +0000 UTCLit. What a wonderful post
Mattia
2022-01-25 13:25:32 +0000 UTCBattle Sisters lead with 75% Yes, and Starhost not delayed, but released via crowdfunding instead.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 13:25:24 +0000 UTCIf you're talking crowdfunding that would mean that you have the resources to get the extra models done. So why not start a second patreon? Maybe even split the models into fantasy and Sci fi for it... I'm a Sci fi collector but I'd still support both.. Put that to a poll... See where it leads you...
Thomas Kurtz III
2022-01-25 13:24:46 +0000 UTCWe explained the reasoning very clearly during the poll, and here you can see there'a a 75% Yes vote for the Battle Sisters as well.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 13:24:35 +0000 UTCCheck the roadmap carefully, only 3 months are daemons, the rest includes other factions.
onepagerules
2022-01-25 13:23:47 +0000 UTCWin win situation, anyway.
Alex
2022-01-25 13:23:46 +0000 UTCKind of feels like you ignored the result of the Sci Fi Poll being won by space dwarves. Can we get some explanation of what's going on there?
Kalaaden
2022-01-25 13:23:40 +0000 UTCI guess they preferred daemons since they work for both systems. But a mention of the reasoning would have been nice.
Philip Lorenz
2022-01-25 13:22:34 +0000 UTCIt's likely due to the fact that the "Battle Sisters: Yes/No?" was so overwhelmingly "Yes". Therefore, Sci-Fi = Battle Sisters, Fantasy = Daemons. That being said, given the fact that Daemons weren't even top 3 for Sci-Fi and barely won Fantasy, I'd personally go Sisters/Ratmen and crowdfund the Daemons, as that would allow one outside resource to work on a large block and discreet visual scheme. Also, clearly I'm on board for crowdfunding or bringing in more folks. Love the models, but agreed that its a LONG time between new factions sometimes, and as someone who has no interest in Daemons, it's going to be a hard call for me. All that said, keep up the amazing work!
Xintas
2022-01-25 13:22:26 +0000 UTCAww man, I've really been digging the Saurian Star Host concepts and model reveals. Will be a shame to see them get bumped that far down.
Ryan Paul Michel
2022-01-25 13:21:02 +0000 UTCYa I don't get why space dwarves were not mentioned despite winning the poll. Would love more clarification on this.
Kalaaden
2022-01-25 13:18:25 +0000 UTCSci-Fi Saurian delayed because of battle sister is so sad. And Dwarf guild leading at 28.2% and kind of forgot about is too.
altminus
2022-01-25 13:18:24 +0000 UTCVery excited about all of these factions, even though battle sisters aren't the most exciting to me there is something I'm really looking forward to every month this year! As for the less voted on factions, I think crowd funding is a fantastic idea! We get so much value out of this patreon, I have no problem with throwing some extra money your way to speed up the releases. Everyone that works on these models absolutely deserves it!
Jacob Craven
2022-01-25 13:17:44 +0000 UTCum... so... I hate space dwarves, but you are just going to ignore the fact that they won the sci-fi race pretty handily?
Philip Lorenz
2022-01-25 13:17:35 +0000 UTCI would be 100% onboard with crowdfunding
Adrian Schütz
2022-01-25 13:16:49 +0000 UTCOnly a little bummed that half my subbed year is deamons..... 😔
Liam Milross
2022-01-25 13:16:31 +0000 UTC"People are excited about All the races", yeah, that's true. I voted daemons/sisters but EVERY concept you've shown was on point...can't wait to see more!
Luke
2022-01-25 13:15:43 +0000 UTCCrowdfunding other factions is a great idea!
Mathaeus Silveira
2022-01-25 13:14:54 +0000 UTC
