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Okay, the new Chappelle special is out and causing controversy, so it’s probably time to dust off my “good comedy” vs “good” comedy, knee-jerk reaction. I’ve not yet watched the show, but I’m already seeing the arguments and so I’ll do the gritty reboot about how people conflate moral good with artistic effectiveness in order to question or buffer the validity of a piece of work. This is a bit upstream of whatever particular joke is causing the Merry-go-round of mutual point-missing that seems to happen when someone talented does a joke that upsets people, but I think that makes it a little more evergreen.

Please don’t construe this as either a defence of, or a condemnation of the new Chappelle special, because as I said, I haven’t watched it, and what’s interesting to me about it right now is the discussion, rather than the inciting incident.

Etcetera forever!


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Thankyou! It’s very exciting!

It's Monday the 11th of October and I just heard some restrictions are being lifted in Sydney. I'm happy for you all. Just take care out there! Aloha!

Ian Stark

There are comedians whose views and politics I know are different to mine. But I still enjoy them and find their work funny. Even when I do not agree the premise of jokes I still laugh. I like the connection and sometimes the challenge in it. But with this I often have some feeling of sadness that the comedian may not like that I enjoy it, may not like me and given the right circumstances I could be the subject of their jokes.

BTW, sorry, but I fell asleep listening to the Gargle and woke up believing the tooth fairy is a dog. I'd better listen again. Aloha.

Ian Stark

I did a lot of nodding in agreement while I red this post and wondered if I really had anything to say. I started thinking about your 'This is a really stupid letter' responses in The Last Post. Those type of comments have the potential to be read as cruel or mean. I think it was well understood by your fanbase that it was all part of the joke but would somebody coming across it 'cold' get that straight away? I want to say something about the importance of intention. If somebody makes a joke about Queers with the intention of giving people who don't like people like me permission to laugh at me then it's not OK. On the other hand I have to own that I have laughed at plenty of Anti-Trump or Anti-Boris Johnson jokes - admittedly from a place of near despair - without stopping to think if their feelings might be hurt. On a completely different point I just want to add that I listened to the latest Bugle in which Andy mentions that it's your last before childbirth and I want to wish you all the best for that momentous event(process?)

Mike Machin

Great article! I've heard some very "funny" jokes over the years that are incredibly hurtful. Even the old man slipping on a banana is making fun of someone's misfortune. I always liked the one about the dog limping into a bar, growling "I'm looking for the man who shot my paw." But I'm old...

Ian Stark


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