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OSPod 102 After-After Show-Show!

The gang talks about horny tropes and Star Trek ("they're the same picture"), the delightful "please get me out of this movie" energy of Harrison Ford, and how we would reshape the concept of the superhero cinematic universe to suit our personal ideal reality!

OSPod 102 After-After Show-Show! OSPod 102 After-After Show-Show! OSPod 102 After-After Show-Show!

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Oh man don't get me started on us not getting Blade thrown in there for some spice. I still love those trash gold movies.

Oddly

Harrison Ford has such blue collar vibes. I do my job the best and fuck off back home. Don't make me pretend to like it

Diesel Frog

Gene Roddenberry was somewhat infamous for being horny, and also for having some weird attitudes towards women. It's not a coincidence that 2/3rds of TNG's female cast quit after Season 1 and didn't come back until Season 3 when Roddenberry had been shuffled off somewhere he couldn't do any damage and (maybe more importantly) his notoriously-sexist and predatory crony Maurice Hurley had been fired. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan was written and directed by Nicholas Meyer. (He didn't get the credit for the script, but it was mostly rewritten by him.) To get a nuanced performance out of Shatner, he forced him to do repeated takes until he was too exhausted to overact.

The Narrator

Hard disagree with “Superhero Formula didn’t exist in the 2000s.” Before Iron Man most of them were origin stories that followed the same formula that became Iron Man, minus the charm of that.

00m

How to solve 90% of Red’s problems with the MCU: 1. Don’t let men like Joss Weedon or Ike Pearlmutter be involved in the production. 2. Pay ALL of your cast, crew, writers, and animators justly so that way they want to all be in movies together, because they’ll all be able to afford medicine.

00m

while the Guardian movie managed to introduce several characters.. they are also extremely shallow compared to any characterization of the solo movies. And their one-note characters became a real problem later with it just.. not being interesting for too long.

erdelf

If it helps at all, the new DC film/tv universe that James Gunn and his writers team are putting together seems to have learned from the mistakes with the MCU and DCEU projects. Namely, rather than starting at the beginning, it's assuming that people already know at least who some of the characters are (Superman in the film out in 2025 has already been a superhero for several years before the film starts, and he's already friends with Guy Gardner, Hawkgirl etc.), with the expectation that the other projects will retroactively fill in any gaps in storytelling. Such as how in the Creature Commandos show (which takes place in the same world as 2025's Superman) has GI Robot as part of the ensemble cast, and in interviews James Gunn said the character's backstory within the show will explore how the new DCU had an alternate Second World War that had robots and other wacky DC War Comics stuff going on. By starting the world in media res, as it were it enables the creators to get to the big interesting storylines faster without either introducing them so soon that the impact is lost (such as Zack Snyder doing the Death of Superman in only the second movie with his version of the character) or requiring years of set-up with the potential of no pay off (such as how the MCU's version of the Young Avengers appears to have stalled due to the various strikes and Disney seemingly hedging its bets on focusing on incorporating the Fantastic Four and X-Men into the MCU as a priority instead).

Lewis Brown

You guys need to do a whole Detail Diatribe or something on the difference in mediums between comics and and film/TV/games/etc. It's an angle I haven't heard many others discuss, and I have to keep remembering which AASS you brought up a particular point.

OtherworldManeki

The Traitors (if that is what I think it is) just won an Emmy!

Jason Veevaert

My day just became a lot better!!!

Eva


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