SEVENTEEN Follow Tour Incheon Day 2
Added 2024-05-06 14:11:17 +0000 UTCS COUPS IS BACKK YAAY!!
I really REAAALLLY wanted to love this concert, maybe if I had watched it first I would've enjoyed it more because the positives are definitely there. Their talent, the band, the choreo, the stage and their charisma is undeniable.
However, naturally I have different expectations now and also I'm more tuned into what I personally LOVE when watching a concert and what will stimulate me and a lot of this concert fell short.
I have no idea why the times when you DO get live vocals which is about a good 45% of the show which is pretty great, they're low and mixed in with the music. The ONLY time this didn't happen and I FELT the show TRULY come alive was during the ending of HOT and that's a shame because we could've had more of that energy sprinkled out through the show.
This is by no means a "bad" concert, it just meets my expectations (except those beautiful drones) and that doesn't excite me. I also wish the show didn't start with Super. It was EASILY the most epic sounding song so naturally the setlist could feel underwhelming after that, I had GOOSEBUMPS. Definitely my favourite show opener so far.
There was definitely a sense of conservativeness and keeping it safe throughout the show which I argue is needed when you have a LARGE group with 13 members who I'M SURE have differences in opinions and tastes so this leads of more straight forward concepts etc to try and please as many members as possible but the downside is there are less surprises for someone after a truly unique concert experience that gives you a show you can't get anywhere else.
I AM curious to check out a concert of theirs around 2018/9 for comparisons sake.
Enjoy!
Comments
Hope you check out their glastonbury performance. They did full live vocals 😀😀😀
Akshi Ankita
2024-06-29 07:03:26 +0000 UTCi know many people have already suggested but definitely Follow Day 1 100% recommend. Like i think they did everything and more of what you want them to do
Stella
2024-06-25 00:42:57 +0000 UTCYour internet is an opp for real lol. Still enjoyed the reaction, though I agree, nothing blew me away. I did love the live band and song arrangements though.
CM
2024-05-08 17:49:49 +0000 UTCtragedy has struck.. they just announced that their next japan tour dates are being streamed so it'd probably have performances of their new unit songs in them lmao
absql
2024-05-08 15:32:09 +0000 UTCYesss agreed and perhaps them also working on that comeback took extra energy from them.
Koko3op
2024-05-08 12:02:55 +0000 UTCSVT is my ult group so I'm extremely biased. But I agree with everything you said in terms of the live vocals and the energy levels. I don't know what it is, maybe it has something to do with scoups and jeonghan having injuries and having to change things and work around that, but I definitely didn't feel as much spark with this particular concert. Svt is a very reliable group for me, I know what I'm getting and I know they'll deliver a good show and I'm glad they're able to show how comfortable they are on stage and as a group. There's not many groups around at the moment who are this far into their career and still promoting this frequently so I'm so used to younger groups who feel like they have something to prove and are trying to get their footing. I'm glad they ended up releasing Maestro because THAT felt like they were not playing it safe and being comfortable as group in their 9th year
Wheezefest
2024-05-08 03:11:40 +0000 UTCSeconding the suggestion to watch the original Follow Tour in Seoul - I personally feel this is superior to the Follow Again setlist simply because the arena had a more intimate (?) audience feel and far suited the production/set designs like the flowers blooming as they walked the stage (I forgot which song lol), the monster truck during HHU, them performing Kidult + the unit perf clothes were significantly better. Although I'm in agreement that nothing beats Be The Sun hehe
maycouprang
2024-05-07 23:04:18 +0000 UTCI keep bringing up Japan lately but can't help it here, as they have also embraced the live revisions concept a lot more. You can find footage of Japanese idols absolutely failing on songs and its acceptable because people want to watch idols improve :) Of course, that is condescending in a different way I guess that's why it was your Twice reaction concert which surprised me the most. I remember watching Twice concert videos with a lot less live vocals years ago in Korea performances. But now that they focus so much in Japan, they seem to have embraced live with bad notes more. I wonder if this is true if we watched DVDs of other Kpop idols performing in Japan as well
Mint
2024-05-07 09:49:00 +0000 UTCJust signed to watch this haha You should’ve watched the original follow tour in Seoul or follow again day 1 bc the show was at night and it was more cool to watch the lighting, fire, the production overall.. But yeah with this encore tour coups and jeonghan were still hurt and couldn’t dance hard and this is why they are missing in some parts/songs… Also the setlist is more chill probably bc of that. And yet the show was emotional to us fans since coups was back after 8 months and also so enjoyable bc of their chemistry and talent. Be the sun tour is still their best and the most energetic one. You should check that one too 😊
Camilla Melissa Moraes
2024-05-07 04:44:22 +0000 UTCI wish I did face the sun instead for sure but yess I love hearing how you experienced it as someone that wasn’t there. I LOVED the drones haha but now you say it it could feel like a random prop
Koko3op
2024-05-07 00:25:46 +0000 UTCOmg Micah thank you for reacting to this! I was at this concert and the stadium feel was phenomenal, S.Coups is my bias and I was so happy to see him back on stage with everyone especially Hip Hop Unit, it just doesn't seem complete without him with them during Fire and Back It Up perfs during his hiatus. I'm a bit sad that Day 2 concerts tend to start early therefore it was still very much light out when the concert began so the effect of the staging, lighting and the audience with the lightsticks doesn't translate well on video. I did notice that they looked a bit tired for Day 2 versus Day 1 and this might have affected their energy level and willingness to sing live all throughout. The weather in Korea was also very strange as even though it was spring, night temps would still drop to less than 8-10 degrees! A lot of us in the audience were freezing halfway through the concert even though we had coats, and I feel bad for dozing off during some of the ments, it was so cold. :( That said, I agree that the set list isn't as good compared to let's say Be The Sun? There were a lot of songs here that required them to just stand and interact with the audience versus choreo and it just doesn't look good without live vocals. I could care less about the drone show as well idk, it made for a very good concert memory photo but not what I'd associate with Seventeen. I am also with you re: vocal unit; I'm not a fan of their song releases as a unit therefore I can't help but tune out their perfs compared to PFU and HHU that had better overall dynamics and experimentation in both their choreo and sound. I haven't liked any of their songs since Samex3, but at least during Be the Sun they had that crowd participation sing-along for Imperfect Love so it was fun to be a part of that + something we anticipated for each stop. I feel the Seoul stadium concert would be more your thing since they performed the latest songs there like Maestro as well as the new unit songs.
maycouprang
2024-05-07 00:08:03 +0000 UTCYesss that setlist was magnificent 😊
Teriana Eady
2024-05-06 23:23:49 +0000 UTC100% even the setlist I preferred so much more!!
Lauren
2024-05-06 22:45:27 +0000 UTCI agree defintely preferred there face the sun concerts , had more live vocals in my opinion.
Teriana Eady
2024-05-06 22:42:38 +0000 UTCYessss I saw a new side to Vernon here and yeah I’m sure there are moments where there’s post editing but there’s a lot of moments you can tell they’re definitely not singing live at all but meh it happens
Koko3op
2024-05-06 20:40:52 +0000 UTCOhh thanks for this one! I agree on wanting the vocals more forward, i want to hear them much more than i do on this for the sake of the energy!! But also, I would probably want to find some fan cams as well to see if it sounds any diff at the venue, bc one thing I've noticed with online concerts and some award shows is that the audio recording of the live performances on the official virtual, like, takes out some of the mic sound? and it ends up sounding less live than it does in fancams I see later (i remember this for last years Don Quixote award show perf where they sounded so much louder in the fan cams)? like I'm curious what the process is for recording and producing the audio for these officially released concerts. I deleted twitter tho so i didn't see any fan cams lol so kinda a moot point bc i still want more forwardly mixed vocals pls oh, and yeah I agree on the vocal unit songs, it's pretty 50/50 on whether i vibe w a VU song bc they do a lot of simple songs. I think this may be bc a lot of the carry on them is lyrical but bc i would need to watch a lyric vid every time to get that impact it's just inevitably lost on me unless i know the song really well. But then again, VU also has some of my fave songs like Same Dream, Same Mind, Same Night; Habit; and Second Life. Also yay for Vernon and Dino appreciation hours, I always think vernon is such a fun to watch live performer, he plays with tone/pitch/cadence on his delivery in live settings more than most and it makes it so much more engaging, and Dino is just so charismatic and joyful and controlled... the smooth glasses move!!! ok, sir! I think that where they could have more personalizations is definitely in the unit stages just cuz they're more agile there in the fewer number of people.
Clover S
2024-05-06 20:25:07 +0000 UTCI completely agree with everything you said, I also think the venue is a massive factor, their concerts when they were playing arenas I enjoyed a lot more as I felt you could hear the live vocals better and the performances as a whole felt more authentic and you could see them enjoying it a lot more!
Lauren
2024-05-06 20:07:09 +0000 UTCNo worries this isn't an essay at alll! But yes I LOVE what you said there "they'll really have to take bigger strides to show they're still growing". Beyonce being a perfect example, her shows are still evolving and growing even as she starts to lower her energy in other ways.
Koko3op
2024-05-06 19:25:51 +0000 UTCCan’t wait to rewatch this with you! I watched this live and I loved it but I definitely agree with some of your points. The drone show, the live band, the dancers, and the scale of it all definitely made it feel special and bigger than past concerts they’ve done but I do feel like there was something missing? The mixing of the vocals was definitely weird and I feel like energy was a bit off. They are obviously very great performers but at this point in their career I think they’ll really have to take bigger strides to show they’re still growing. At least in terms of at concerts like these! My favorite part of this concert was the middle section with Home Run and Left and Right. I think they really shine during those more theatrical bits and you can see they’re really having fun. I am really glad Coups and Jeonghan got to participate and I appreciate the way they were incorporated into the performances. Sorry for the essay lol but I hope you eventually get to check out the Maestro, Lalali, and Spell performances they did at the Seoul concerts!
maya k
2024-05-06 18:40:28 +0000 UTCJust another thing hope you check out maestro wonwoo fancam maybe on your own time… his expression are sometimes else for this song
Akshi Ankita
2024-05-06 18:29:35 +0000 UTCS.coups is still facing problems… he mentioned initially he was supposed to take year off but he mentioned he wanted to come back … They actually performed the newest songs for the Seoul day concert
Akshi Ankita
2024-05-06 18:26:06 +0000 UTCI would say I enjoyed it mostly just because it’s Seventeen and I’m very biased, but when it comes to my real top performances it would have to be Hot, Headliner and All My Love. Oooh, and God of Music, too. I also watched clips of the vocal unit before and Yawn was really good. Tbh when it comes to vocal unit, I do think in recent albums they haven’t been nearly as experimental as the others but bc my personal taste actually tends to be towards those kinds of songs I don’t actually mind that much? I see why you’d want to see them push more boundaries though, considering how much they showed themselves capable of in the group songs compared to the unit songs! (Headliner Seungkwan was just- MMM.)
Shattermirror
2024-05-06 18:03:57 +0000 UTCYess that's definitely the issue and I guess it's usually western artists who set up the standard of concerts being completely revisioned.
Koko3op
2024-05-06 16:52:46 +0000 UTCWatched only partially, not that I didn't enjoy, just a lack of time. Did want to comment that I really agree with you on the "unique concert experience" part. Problem is, Kpop really has many fans who want the impeccable re-enactment during the concert, against those of us who just want the artists to let loose and improvise. Its a tension that's hard to resolve as the artists decide who they want to please. I think Bigbang was kinda close to this type of improvising towards the tail end of their careers. Stray Kids which you watched earlier was great. I am hoping when BTS reunites, they will really let loose.
Mint
2024-05-06 16:50:30 +0000 UTCYou get it!! Yeahh the vocal unit's song are exactly what's NOT my taste my god.
Koko3op
2024-05-06 16:27:32 +0000 UTCtotally agree with your points! it also doesn't help that i don't like a lot of their songs lately so i feel disconnected when its not even live vocals. LOL 100% agree on vocal unit tracks, i like maybe 2 or 3 songs out of how many generic ballads they have... I get the whole its been 9 yrs but then i look at twice and their concert, even when i dislike some songs the live vocals bring life to the performances. Like give me all the out of tune/off notes, idc i want to hear it !!
Hibz
2024-05-06 15:34:56 +0000 UTCHaha it's correct don't worry!
Koko3op
2024-05-06 14:47:01 +0000 UTCI agree with you! I didn't really like the concert in <> Seventeen <> which was a year ago was memorable! I’m also writing through a translator, if the text is translated incorrectly I’m sorry 🫣
Dina
2024-05-06 14:23:19 +0000 UTC
