Patron Release: Special
Added 2023-11-21 05:15:01 +0000 UTC
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The pistol of the era that's missing from this list is the Savage in 45, my guess is it would place third. That the reason it didn't get to serve is because Colt's design won out shows just how good the 1911 was and is.
Matthew Doye
2023-12-04 13:17:43 +0000 UTCActually, military M1911s do not require hand fitting on any of the parts especially barrels. Don't confuse this with civilian versions that have tighter tolerances for accuracy.
Thomas Batha
2023-11-28 14:15:23 +0000 UTCChanging barrels on the 1911 requires hand fitting too. Don't be fooled by modern CNC production into thinking otherwise.
Bruce Brodnax
2023-11-28 12:36:39 +0000 UTCI like the strong stance you took on your choices.. definitely would have ranked the FN 1903 higher personally, have to appreciate the reliability and convenient field strip. That damn grip though.... I like the Steyr, except for the fixed mag, it feels like a possible result for the evolution of the 1900 if Colt hadn't given up on the .41 auto program.Happy Thanksgiving.
Mr. Lee
2023-11-24 03:50:48 +0000 UTCFascinating recap , thank you guys
Guy K
2023-11-23 23:04:30 +0000 UTCThanks guys, that was a great show! I recently had a chance to handle (but not fire) a Steyr and I really liked the ergonomics. But the 1911 is (and remains) the King.... Best from sunny Malta.
Mick Gillen
2023-11-22 08:20:23 +0000 UTCBest of Second Tier perhaps?
Chairman
2023-11-21 23:57:45 +0000 UTCThis is a great episode! I think something not really addressed was reliability. The 1911 always works under all conditions. The parts are very interchangeable but they almost never break---fore instance, try changing the barrel on any of the others. In fact changing any part on most of the guns except the 1911 requires hand fitting, some tools and some skill. Othias knows this first hand.
Thomas Batha
2023-11-21 23:37:41 +0000 UTCNicely done!
Martin Morehouse
2023-11-21 19:24:11 +0000 UTCThe FN 1903 has this virtue as well: it locks open on the last round. With a locking breech mechanism in 9mmP and a longer grip, this would edge out the 1911 for my first choice. Note that at least one original prototype concealed hammer 1911 .45 exists, and C&S still offers a .45 CH "Pocket Model" for about 4K! A field expedient to keep most mud and dirt out is simply to carry hammer down on a live round. I wonder why Colt didn't design and issue a 10 round mag for the 1911, at least for reloads, especially with 1919's spring offensive looming.
ViejoLobo
2023-11-21 18:49:56 +0000 UTCbig plus of the 1907: shrouded hammer. that thing in muddy trenches is kind of sealed up real well. nothing could get infront or behind the hammer.
Guido Schriewer
2023-11-21 16:41:50 +0000 UTCThe S&W 1917 with half-moon clips would have compared favorably with the lowest end of the list, despite being a revolver. I’m not a revolver guy, but I would take that over a Bergmann.
Mac Johnson
2023-11-21 15:20:59 +0000 UTCOnly when they get their hands on a Fedorov Avtomat.
Chairman
2023-11-21 13:57:55 +0000 UTCor without order 1911, p08, fn1907, steyr hahn1912, sw 1917, type 26, webley MK...Star..., colt 1917, sw triple lock, colt 1909.
Guido Schriewer
2023-11-21 11:39:12 +0000 UTCuh that is a special! pistols or handguns? 1911, fn1907, p08, steyr hahn 1912, savage 1907, colt hammerless1903, ...ohboy what else... nambu (it feels like a ruger? LOL), bergman 1910 (beats broomhandle for me), roth krnka, walther mod4?
Guido Schriewer
2023-11-21 11:27:48 +0000 UTCOf the weapons that I have had contact with on our list, I agree with your order. I was some what surprised with the Nambu being on the list. I love it but if it wasn't so wimpy. Have had a straight 1911 but that was a long time ago and I don't have all that much memory of it. I'm a 1911A1 person because of the availably. Good job on this list.
Thomas E Holmes
2023-11-21 09:50:39 +0000 UTCWow! I was not expecting this. Wonderfull!
Matteo Manino
2023-11-21 07:47:33 +0000 UTCDoes this mean that the WWI primer series is complete?
Jack Boyle
2023-11-21 05:17:58 +0000 UTC
