Great and fun q&a. Kind of a follow up to the question of would a different WW1 rifle be better suited for a pederson device. Would using a similar device chambered in the French 8mm revolver cartridge be a better choice being that the barrels were made from the same tooling as the main infantry rifles and use the device in those rifles?
Luke Telling
2022-05-06 19:31:07 +0000 UTC
Old infantry trick - pee on your feet.. I’ve never had any issues with athletes foot or anything during my career.. and we lived in the field a lot. Also, should a mention “panty hose” during those cold, damp mornings while patrolling in Germany during training……….. that’s about all the “secrets” I can mention at the moment
Tim Black
2022-04-29 15:19:50 +0000 UTC
Naps are highly underrated!!
Tim Black
2022-04-29 02:08:39 +0000 UTC
John Moses Browning did not reach his full potential….come on. That’s like saying God should not have rested on the 7th day.
Mike Scharf
2022-04-29 00:19:41 +0000 UTC
Dan Wesson made a fair number of 15-2 revovlers in 357 maximum, typically with heavy full lug bull barrels for silloete shooting back in the day
Sleepy's good boy
2022-04-28 10:04:10 +0000 UTC
to keep all my mil surp forever, bolt action I handload very light lead bullet loads, side note I shoot every week some of these and worked out very accurate loads 6.5mm to .329 mannlicher everything in between.
Terry Surface
2022-04-28 04:31:46 +0000 UTC
On the "why not inline stock?" question: The inline prototypes that were competing before the M14 adoption ran into opposition from the Army because a soldier would need to stick their head up out of a foxhole about 2 inches extra to get the barrel above cover compared to traditional stocks. It was a whole thing even in the 1950's. They recognized the recoil advantage, but they were balancing against other factors as well.
Colburn Freml
2022-04-27 17:41:59 +0000 UTC
Only 30 minutes in and it's great!
Nick Siwak
2022-04-26 21:34:10 +0000 UTC
Don't forget the .270 Winchester. (.277" bullet dia.)
RamLock
2022-04-26 19:47:58 +0000 UTC
The FN 1900 was mentioned a couple of times which made me recall that C&Rsenal had previously not found any evidence of that gun being used in a ground role during WW1. Just yesterday I found an example of the FN 1900 being used in ground combat during WW1. The Imperial War Museum has an example of an FN 1900 captured by British forces in the fighting in Dublin during the 1916 Easter Rising. Granted it is Irish vs British rather than German vs British, but it is a clear example of the FN 1900 being used in ground combat during WW1.
John French
2022-04-26 19:33:15 +0000 UTC
I'm not sure who all made guns in that caliber, but I believe it was Remington who originated the cartridge, so it's likely they made something.
If I remember correctly, it was the revolvers that, with even .002" - .004" forcing cone clearance, the escaping plasma gases would cut into the upper frames and cylinder pins, and rapidly erode the forcing cone clearance and cylinder fore-end, making the problem immediately and continually worse.
A rifle wouldn't have this issue, and the longer barrel would make better use of the increased powder charge.
It's also a straight-walled cartridge, for areas that require those for hunting, and is only about 3/8" longer than the .357 magnum. It would take very little modification if any, to the .38 spl / .357 mag chambered, tube magazine, lever guns currently made.
True, it wouldn't be the biggest most powerful chambering possible, but it would fit nicely into the "Big Bore 94" class of Winchester, and any other competitor / imitator / replica products, and would extend the effective hunting range from around 100m to 200m for venison, and even Black Bear.
It would also share projectiles with both .38 special and .357 Magnum, and may potentially share loading dies with them as well, as the only differences are overall length and powder capacity. IIRC they use small rifle magnum primers, so that difference wouldn't be an issue for hand loaders.
RamLock
2022-04-26 19:22:22 +0000 UTC
If he really wanted something odd, I have a single shot cannon breach lone eagle in 35 rem as well. I actually like the cartridge myself. I have a 141, a 760 and the lone eagle in it. Im still working on the model 14 . I would like a lever 35 as well.
Kevin Reichert
2022-04-26 19:12:29 +0000 UTC
Gewehr 88/05: That thing wasn't in reserve. Ok, the Landwehr was a reserve force compared to the regular army but one meant, trained and equipped for frontline service and called up for active duty at the same time as the regular army. So more of a "not just as good" version of the regular army. And historically the Landwehr was the territorial defense force activated whenever "war were declared".
Markus B.
2022-04-26 17:23:52 +0000 UTC
Also the Stevens 425 "High Power" lever action rifle with its weird tilting bolt.
Hunter Compton
2022-04-26 16:39:01 +0000 UTC
Krystal
James McKenzie
2022-04-26 15:02:28 +0000 UTC
If you want more 35 Remington cartridge fired guns, don’t forget the pump actions. On top of them being in 35, at least one, the Remington 14 I think, was developed by Pederson.
Kevin Reichert
2022-04-26 14:28:33 +0000 UTC
Or [since AFAIK, Ruger was the only firm to ever chamber it in a handgun] a return of the Deerfield semi-auto carbine that everyone wants to make a comeback? That was in .44 Magnum, and while .357 Max is still the weakling kid brother in comparison, the added mag capacity from the smaller diameter would compensate for that...
Bruce Brodnax
2022-04-26 11:58:27 +0000 UTC
I *know*, right? Even after the Scandies got it all figured out w/ the 6.5x55...
Bruce Brodnax
2022-04-26 11:55:38 +0000 UTC
Do you guys have White Castle in South Carolina? After 6 hours in the late evening/early morning, you two should just stack up the little boxes on the table as you keep answering questions.
Chairman
2022-04-26 10:19:15 +0000 UTC
Really really like this Q&A
Regarding the question about unsung influential engineers, The one that immediately sprung to my mind is
Edwin Pugsley.
I never heard of him prior to your BAR issue, but imagine how things would be if not for him. It's people like that who make the world a better place just by being there and doing what they do the best that they can.
Cartridges I'd like to see come back.. 357 Maximum, but as a sporting rifle / lever gun, perhaps Marlin or Henry?
RamLock
2022-04-26 09:27:57 +0000 UTC
Excellent stuff lads, Love it!!
Denis Kelly
2022-04-26 06:48:56 +0000 UTC
Six hours? The gods are generous today.
Matteo Manino
2022-04-26 06:32:40 +0000 UTC
you know this Q&A has made me realize how fucking long we've been circling around 7mm for an optimal full-power rifle cartridge. 7mm Mauser, then 280 Ross, then 276 Pederson, then 280 British, and sure, I'll throw in 8mm CETME cause it had about the same power. But none of these ever really took off in the mainstream (except 7mm Mauser) cause politics.
David Herman
2022-04-26 06:29:18 +0000 UTC
On the "out-there, weird features on martial weapons": the coffee grinder Sharps carbine! Pritchard bayonets for Webleys! Bottle openers on some Israeli rifles!