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1. We've had a little project going with Manticore Arms to recreate a prototype Remington 11 trenchgun.  

Somewhere in this process they realized they would like to sponsor the show.  We could use the help, the show does not overlap with sales of anything modern so there is no risk of bias, and they have given us zero hooks/demands.  

What do you guys think?  

2. I planned a Mauser 1871 episode followed by a 71/84 and 1887 episode.  that's two episodes.  Research was fruitful and the eps got crowded.  It is now 4 episodes chock full of interesting details.  71, Jager and Carbine, 71/84, and ottoman 1887 (with way more story than I realized!)

Would you prefer 4 episodes of early Mausers or:
2 episodes on single shot Mausers, a random Machine gun, 2 episodes on magazine Mausers?

I kinda think the latter would keep viewership up.


Thanks gang!

Comments

Late Reply but without a doubt take the sponsorship. You put the time and effort in to this project, to hell with anyone who would give you a hard time about some well deserved good fortune. I love love love me some Mausers but I have to agree that breaking them up sounds like it has better mass appeal.

If there aren't strings attached that you can't live with, why not? As for the episodes, as long as they keep coming I frankly don't care what order you drop them. While my main interest is the rifles, I have yet to see a single episode that isn't top notch and well worth my time to watch.

Richard Anderson

Is there a 3rd option.... take the deal and delay 2 of the Mauser Episodes for the future. If not, I hate to lose 2 episodes, but the bills need to be paid first... to secure the future of the show.

Neat side project too!

1: Will their sponsorship make your life easier in ANY way? If yes, DO IT. And fuckit, if they want you to plug their new Transformer Rail for the Villar-Perosa, do that too. 2: Honestly, I like ALL the Mausers, in the same way you did all the Mannlichers in a batch. It gives me more of the story to look forward too next episode!

Christopher Dooley

If you pursue the sponsorship make sure you talk through all concerns you may have and ask the hard questions. If you're satisfied after that, get everything written in a legally defensible contract so that both parties are protected in case of any unforseen circumstances.

1. Sounds to good to be true, but hey if God blesses you with such an opportunity to help you continue being a blessing for us, the go for it. 2. I reckon it's just a matter of in what order to present your content. Personally I love Mausers so I can deal with both. However a portion of the audience might feel differently so better to lighten things up with a machinegun. I remember struggling a bit with the string of .32 pistols in the early days since I am more of a rifle person. So I can see why 2 months of Mausers might alienate some rather casual viewers. ;)

The sponsorship helps ensure the safety of the project, which I care about you folks finishing. What are they going to do, make you do another episode on shotguns? (pls) As for the mausers, I think I'd like the machinegun break in the middle.

1. JUST DO IT. More money for you means a better show for me. There's no reason not to! 2. I preffer 2-1-2, but 2-2 is also OK. Do what you think will work best! 3. If there's a 1 and a 2, there should be a 3.

PHP

Like Steve Miller said, "Take the money & run!" ;-) As for episode breakdown, I say do all the Mausers back to back to back and we'll have the machine gun as a nice break before the next rifle...

Bruce Brodnax

As far as the mauser question goes. I would say 2 episodes on the single shot mausers and 2 episodes on magazine mausers.

Josh Bowman

I don't mind the sponsorship. Any one willing to lend a hand, I think is great.

Josh Bowman

1. Um, YES. You guys need all the funding you can get. Hopefully it'll mean Othais can farm out some of the work so he doesn't have a dang heart attack. Also, I don't know if there's anywhere in the U.S. that, what was it, $3 an hour is anywhere near livable? And 2. Personally I prefer the rifle episodes over the machine guns (I know, I'm weird) though 4 may be excessive. 3 seems reasonable? 2 for the German rifles and one for the ottoman? We haven't had anything Turkish yet, it would be good to get a whole "all Ottoman" episode. Also, weren't you having trouble getting the Maxim episode done? Or are you just saying screw it and releasing one of the episodes you've already shot?

Anders Patrick Bradley

1. Good with that. 2. Much as I love Mausers, I vote for an MG episode in the middle. (Of course, I love MGs also.)

Leonard Heinz

Go for the sponsor! & 2/1/2

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If you can maintain show integrity, take the sponsorship. I would go for option two, 2x single shot, 1x machine gun, 2x magazine rifle.

Ozymandias

2. I prefer the latter, i like early strage weapons but variety is good.

Matteo Manino

1. No problem, more money for you is good.

Matteo Manino

I don't think any of us here have issues with the sponsorship, but I think a pertinent question is: does Youtube?

litgeek

2. I'd put the MG episode in the middle. i doubt most of the planet is as fascinated be early magazine rifle conversions. as I am. And MGs are fun to watch.

1. Go for it. Manticore arms makes cool space gun add ons and are all around great people. I'm guessing the trench gun prototype would be a single piece only which is a downer.

Yes.

General Jack Ripper

2. probably go with the mausers interspersed with the machine gun episode

Michael Boudreaux

1. Manticore is awesome and I would see no issue with you guys accepting sponsorship from them.

Michael Boudreaux

Sponsorship, doesn't sound like conflict of interest to me and hopefully doesn't run you afoul of the new youtube rules. Keep it tasteful and honest and I don't think people would really notice just like Drake GmbH's mention at the end of the videos. I for one come here for the info so lay it on thick! I'd rather have the full history of the single shots and then roll into the machine gun. I think y'all would always have it sitting in the back of your mind that you had more to share if you didn't.

Will Sanders

Being transparent, I think any additional revenue you can find you should take in. Also, doing 2 Mauser, the machine gun, then 2 more Mauser sounds more appealing.

Manticore Arms are great folks - I think additional non-interfering sponsors are a plus. Either plan works for me - knowing that get to it all eventually.

I support any income you can get. Thanks for being so transparent. Personally I think mixing in a of machine gun episode now and then would improve overall viewership. Even it's a bit out of order

I know of Manticore Arms from TGC, they apper to be a good company that respects the integrity of the shows they sponsor, I say take them up on the offer. I say split the Mausers

2 - you know best.

1 - take it.

I like when you keep a topic together, (Mauser episodes 1 - 4) then change to another fire arm. You do a wonderful job building off of previous work, so it truly doesn’t matter to me. I will watch regardless of how you do it. Thank you and the crew for all of the great work you do.

Terry Rindal Jr

I like your latter idea about the Mauser and machine guns. If a company will cover an episode without interfering go for it. If they're content with only an on show thank you I think it's a great idea. If it doesn't workout you can decline future offers.

TDC

The break from Mauser is a better option. Some folks would loose interest after the second episode.

Primal Tempest

I think the second option is better. Breaking up the mauser episodes might result in less complaints. I have no problem with sponsorship as it might make things a little easier for yall.

David K. Jernigan

I'm fine with sponsorships, as long as they are clearly disclosed and don't affect the content. In both regards I'm confident that you can and will handle this well, so go for it. As for the second part, I don't mind either way. Do them in whichever order you feel fits your production and release schedule best.

TheBigOne0305

Oh, and I am not going to say "no" to a Machine Gun episode :)

If you say the sponsor gives you no pressure then I am fine with the sponsorship for as long as it works for C&Rsenal. Given that there is 0 overlap then so much the better! Go for it.

I have no problem with a sponsorship. Whatever it takes to keep the show going. Mausers are cool, but then, so are random machine guns. I'll be watching very episode regardless. Thanks for all the hard work.

Kent W.Fevurly

Sponsorship is fine. In fact it might encourage more companies to get out and make reproduction parts, which would drive DOWN incentive to part out functional original guns. As for the Mausers.. the more episodes the better. Nice, long, and brimming with details.

GunsBeerFreedom

As far as sponsorship deals go, that sounds like an awesome deal. and #2? Up to you guys.

Daniel R.

As long as there's no bias, I vote take the sponsorship. There are so many Mauser models to do. Where would the cutoff be for early models? 1889? 1890?, 91? 93?... Take as many episodes as needed. It should be more tolerable timewise with the machineguns separate. Hope you got your rest. :)

Manticore? you seriously need to ask? go for it!,, as for the second question - your gut instinct is the correct one

praack

i like the second option. I love love mausers. but breaking it up may be nice and another machine gun would maybe bring some more viewers in.

Jared Kennedy

I'm actually way more excited about the Mausers but you should probably throw in the machine gun for a broader audience. Will you be talking about the 1871 in Ireland?

Nicholas Ford

1. We've had a little project going with Manticore Arms to recreate a prototype Remington 11 trenchgun. Somewhere in this process they realized they would like to sponsor the show and they have given us zero hooks/demands. What do you guys think? Go for it - I can't see any issues with having sponsorship for an episode. 2. I planned a Mauser 1871 episode followed by a 71/84 and 1887 episode. that's two episodes. Research was fruitful and the eps got crowded. It is now 4 episodes chock full of interesting details. 71, Jager and Carbine, 71/84, and ottoman 1887 (with way more story than I realized!) Would you prefer 4 episodes of early Mausers or: 2 episodes on single shot Mausers, a random Machine gun, 2 episodes on magazine Mausers? I kinda think the latter would keep viewership up. The more episodes the better as it's easier to find what I'm looking for when you have them broken out.

Aw Fisk

Sponsorship like that sounds fine to me. I'm super excited about the mausers! How about the second option. I like the detail but I also want to see some variety. Doesn't hurt that one's gonna be a machine gun XD

Enter does not drop you one line! 2) 2 episodes. I'll make sure I have my "iron ass" ready.

John R. Dorn

1) Yeah, sure. If it helps you guys I'm all for it.

John R. Dorn

I say go with the sponsor, especially when i like their product! As for videos? Machine gun!

patrick russell

I'd say go in with Manticore Arms. I'd like to see you guys as much support as you can. Do you know what the form of the sponsorship/advertising would take? I'm also in favor of splitting up the mauser episodes with the machine gun- it'll be good for a short break between the sets.

Go until just before you drop Othais. Keep him on point Mae. LOL

Lance McCarty

Marathon, but I think variety would hold more viewers

Take the sponsorship. I personally would like the Mauser m

Take the money and run.

Kyle Gilmar

Take whatever sponsor you want but I'd be bothered by a "now a word from our sponsors" mid show. That doesn't seem to be the deal here but for the future.

If you think taking the sponsorship will help the show then go for it, or even at least helps give you some breathing room then I don't see why not. It's not like your turning into a shill channel with an amazon account. I like the plan with the random machine gun. Break it up a little bit. Remember when Forgotten weapons became the Forgotten Bergmann channel?

David Gummo

Option 2 sounds better.

I agree with you, 2 deep, take it while it's offered!

Chris Cherry

Did you say machine gun? I prefer that one

I say go for it. Oh, ...And 2xMauser, 1xMG, 2xMauser

Go for it - I have a very early Remington autoloader (pre model 11) that is cut down to riot - Its over 100 years old and works like a charm. In 100 years it will be around killing alien robots or some such thing - Remington 11's were made to last several lifetimes if you take care of it. Being an autoloader it could give you more chances to shoot those grenades out of the air too. : )

Kenneth Marshall

TAKE THE MONEY!!!! and just say a disclaimer at the front.

Chairman

Accept the sponsorship, you guys deserve it! Also I'd be happier with option 2, but wouldn't be upset with the first either. Im

Sabertooth88

Option 2 please, I love the deep dives, but breaking up the mausers with an MG keeps things fresh.

Sleepy's good boy

Take the money, you deserve it. Programing? I'll watch it all, it matters not to me.

do what is best for the show, and what you think is best

privetkillzs

Definitely take the money, and I vote for option 2!

Bruce Abbott

I agree that the latter would probably be best.

1. Take the money. No hooks, no problem. Definitely option 2. I am a detailed oriented gun/science nerd, so 1 would rivet me, BUT it ain't about me. Good content spread on a few platforms really does work. I use Manticore Nightbreaks on all my AKs. Xlnt Co

They are a quality brand so go with Manticore. Random in between the two episodes

Oh, and the sponsorship. Unless you feel that it would impede your ability to continue as you are doing, go for it.

RJ Ruble

I'm a gun history nerd, so I would chose option 1, but I'm not going to be upset with option 2.

RJ Ruble

By all means, accept the sponsorship. With all of the work that's put in to give us informative and entertaining videos to watch, ALL OF YOU DESERVE IT!!! Random MG thrown in with Mauser episodes? Oh YEAH!!

F4_Phantom

MG.

Lord Chaos

Keep the sponsorship :) I want you to get all the help you can so you wonderful people keep up the amazing work you do.

Take the sponsorship. I am little interested in machine guns but I am betting the majority of viewers would love an episode on a machine gun. Want you to have more viewers, subscribers and patrons.

Take the sponsorship! It sounds like it could really help. And I'm in favor of option 2. Early Mausers are cool, but so are machine guns.

The second option sounds good to me--have you covered the Madsen yet?

Take the money and run! You, Mae and your crew deserve it! Split the episodes. I my opinion the Lewis Gun episode was the maximum (and best) an episode can be.

Bob Korasidas

Sponsor and random mg

Take the sponsorship and split up the Mauser episodes.

Random machine gun?...... That will certainly send viewers away, fleeing by the thousand,.... defiantly,..... nobody likes historical presentations on Machine Guns,..... yuck.....

Britishmuzzleloaders

Lets go for the random MG

Jeff Carpenter II

Take the sponsorship. There is no overlap and it would help you be more secure. I wouldn’t mind the four episodes. The details are why i watch the channel.

Jack Mahan

1. Take the Sponsorship, and for the rest however you do your videos i'll watch them all

1. Take the sponsorship if it works for C&Rsenal. 2. Split the Mausers with a Radom Machine gun. Opps! Sorry, wrong war. Make that a random MG...

Jason

I'd go with the second option

Option two. I love you guys, but the first option sounds really heavy and monotonous.

Eric Meyer

Split them, everyone likes some full auto!

And split the Mausers, I think four episodes in a row on the same serie of guns is too much. And I really want to see a machine gun !

As long as they have no [negative] influence on the show, let them help you.

1. No conflict of interest, so take the money. 2. I would prefer four straight Mauser episodes, just to help me keep the story fresh in my feeble memory, BUT a little full auto thrown in is bound to help the collective attention span.

A sponsorship with loose requirements is definitely worth taking. As for the Mausers, I think breaking them up would be a bit less monotonous.

BumroyV2

1. Go for the sponsorship, but make sure that your expectations regarding bias and conflict of interest are clearly spelled out and understood, preferably in writing. 2. I leave it to your good judgement regarding Mauser episodes.

Brian Taylor

Take the sponsorship. Do what you need to as regards increased viewership. I'm very excited about the upcoming Mauser episodes!

Mark P

I think the sponsorship is a great idea and good for the channel. As far as the episodes go you should do what you think is best. I trust your judgement.

Take the sponsorship!

2. I'd prefer the second option with a nice MG tossed in the middle!

Mustafa's Fleas

1. Take the MONEY!

Mustafa's Fleas

No opinion on the episodes. If you support Manticore Arms and would recommend them, why not get paid to recommend them?

DanGodofThunder

Take the sponsorship, they are wonderful to offer and anything that makes production easier for you and doesn't prejudice the content is cool. Do the Mausers as a block, easier to follow the evolution if they are all together

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C&Rsenal

Noted

C&Rsenal

Very good point I should have asked if people would feel good about a modern producer who wants to keep the history alive.

C&Rsenal

Well there will be plenty in the future!

C&Rsenal

Yes, all these episodes will be made either way

C&Rsenal

Take the sponsorship, and I like doing 4 straight Mausers

Andrew Bethards

Yes i think breaking the Mausers up would be a good idea. Plus i gotta get that injection of sweet sweet machine guns. And the sponsor ship I think is a great idea. Im so happy to see that there is a company that wants to support your work. So i say go with it!

LuchsTheLynx

Take the sponsor. Breaking up the Mausers sounds good.

David Nesius

Go for the sponsorship. It will help the show.

Joel Getschman

Do the sponsorship. Any brand would/should be grateful to be associated with amazing content providers such as yourselves. I would break up the run of Mausers. While I would happily watch two months worth of Mausers in a row, I'm not your normal consumer.

I appreciate the information you all provide; thanks.

They're all coming either way, it's just a question of if they are in a block or broken up.

Jeff Freeman

Take the sponsorship. I see no problems at all. I would prefer to see all 4 episodes together, but I suspect that you are correct and the better option for the channel would be to break them up.

Jeff Freeman

I like to see 4 episodes of early Mausers . Any information on Mausers is great.

Joel Getschman

I trust your judgement on Manticore, and break up the Mausers. I'll watch them all the way through either way though:-)

Matthew Jackson

1 do the sponsor ship. And I’d prefer the Mauser-machinegun-Mauser sandwich

Tim The Enchanter

I have no issues or concerns with sponsorship. As for the mausers, I vote to break up the episodes.

James Bond

On the second issue, I second the motion of Mr Greenberg. As for Manticore Arms, why should you not? Cannot see but upsides.

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38super_partizan

Do what ever you think is best.No,and I don't mean that like when your wife says that to you.

Ethereal

Break up the Mausers, don’t go full Bergmann.

JG

Sponsorship is fine with me, I'd prefer a release of 2 Mauser episodes and then a machine gun, then the other 2 episodes. Don't want people to get burnt out on just Mausers like Ian did with the Mannlicher pistols.

Christian Hanes

I'm totally cool with a sponsorship, anything to help the show is good with me since I haven't become independently wealthy (yet) and I can't just give you all the money so whatever funds the show is good with me. Id probably say do the 2-1-2 setup cause MG episodes give the show a huge boost and will break up the content a bit

Anthony O'Nan

Good lord, take the sponsorship. I understand that some viewers have a hideous phobia of sponsorships, but whaddayagonnado, "shill" for surplus Carcanos?

Michael Stueber

In regards to the advertisement, go for it. Especially being a collaborative video there is no reason not to get more funding. As for the episodes, if the 4 Mauser episodes means that you could conceivably film some or all of them at once please do it. You could use the breathing room. I do agree with some that it may be nice to stagger their release but think what you could do (or not do 😉) with 4 episodes in the can. Otherwise in not terribly concerned either way so long as you are happy with the scripts. Keep up the great work.

Matt Rio

Sponsorship is great as long as you disclose it, you've worked hard and deserve it! Mausers deserve all the detail you are willing to put into them.

Kelly D West

Sponsorship and 2-1-2

Sponsorship and two ... one ... two

Sponsorship is fine, and splitting the Mauser episodes sounds best

If you can accept sponsorship while keeping your integrity, do so. Order is not an issue with me I want it all.

A Pete Bingham

Mentioning a company that supports you guys makes me want to support that company. Take the Money. Break the episodes up to keep it from seeming repetitive.

John Elliott

2, 1, 2 would keep it fresh. Sponsorship is good, may keep things going way past WW1!

To be fair I will watch everything you put up you guys are great so just do whatever you fancy

Casey Muzio

Let Manticore Arms sponsor the show since there is no strings. I prefer the 2 episodes on magazine Mausers.

Kevin R

Take the $$$$ and the latter one

Two one two would be good for me. The more interesting facts the better. Please do what you think is best. We are all cousins, right :)

John A Rose Jr

Get the sponsor and I'd say the machine gun option would be better for veiwership but I like the idea for the 4 Mauser videos.

Old Man Winter

Take the sponsorship! I like the latter option as well.

Curtis Handsaker

Sponsorship: with no strings and you in control? go for it! Episodes: 2+1+2, some variety is nice.

Greg Stachowski

Sponsorship? Yes! Mausers? Latter option.

Nuke Road Warrior

I think you guys deserve good sponsors, take it. You are a resource that needs your own resources of course, and there is no overlap as you mentioned. And number 2 sounds fun..Machine Gun..I heard Machine Gun..

Powers

I trust you not to sell the show's soul, so take the sponsorship. And anything mixed with random machine guns is always good.

Jasper Welsch

Sponsorship seems like a great idea! I don't have an opinion on the order... I am dozens of episodes behind anyway, so go with your preference.

Take the money and run with it. There is a vast difference between acknowledging a sponsorship and shilling a product. As far as order, I like MAUSERMAUSERMAUSERMAUSER, but most seem not to agree. Doesn't matter in the end, we'd all be happy with whatever if you HADN'T asked

Nicholas White

1. Take the sponsorship! 2. A bit harder, but I think I would prefer the "2 episodes on single shot Mausers, a random Machine gun, 2 episodes on magazine Mausers" option. I think you are right that this would be a bit better for growing views and viewership: more machine guns. . .

Bruce Stein

take the money since there is no overlap, as for the episodes, all of the above if you can stand the strain............

Sponsorship looks great, and I like the idea of breaking it up a little bit. It'll keep viewership up.

The second option sounds good. Break up the rifles with a machine gun. But it really doesn't matter to me

Sponsorship: as long as the deal looks good to you, then get that money. Episodes: I prefer the latter option. As much as I like sequential content, 4 episodes on the same family in a row would be a bit much and definitely lose interest of casual viewers. A machine gun episode in the middle is the way to go.

Brett

'random machine gun' has a nice ring to it

chris hodgson

Latter sounds better, been a while since we got a machinegun episode. Also just sell out my man, get paid.

Sponsorship is fine, you're not selling or promoting anything... As to the order of episodes, I'd prefer continuity but I realize some people may get "bored", so whatever you decide is fine.

Alfred Gawron

Agree with the others, answering is fine, latter option.

Corey Allhands

1) Mo money 2) all of them (aka no opinion)

Will Sullivan

1. Get that sponsorship! You earned. Plus I wouldn't feel as bad only giving you a $1 month 2. The latter

I'm cool with advertising, more money in your pocket to keep it all going. I could care if you try to sell me a modern firearm, just as long as the historical content stays at the forefront. I like the latter for the viewership idea, as long as we get all the Mausers covered in time.

Sponsorship: whatever your feel comfortable with and think is in the best interest of the show

The latter sounds good to me. And as for the sponsor, go for it. If it helps the project then it's great

I want to see the Ottoman episode as soon as humanly possible. We've had so little Ottoman stuff.

The latter is okay as long as all four mauser episodes come :)

I'd like to see a random machine gun episode, but my fallback choice would be the Mauser 71 episodes instead.

As far as advertising I’m cool with whatever your comfortable dealing with.

The latter

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