Diving into the Wreckage: Decay and Renewal 2
Added 2024-09-18 10:00:15 +0000 UTCSean and Varn are joined by special guest, A.P. Andy of the Antifada podcast, to round out their previous conversation on current impasses on the left.
How did Andy’s Platypus Affiliated Panel go? What’s new with the American Communist Party and how have they Stalinized Bordigism? What has happened to make Marxism-Leninism into an anachronistic meme ideology? And, in the bonus section, out of all this decay what hope is there in some sort of renewal? (We’ve got some ideas on this front that are better than tailing MAGA and streaming it to underemployed 20-year-olds.)
Platypus panel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQxb86UTmCo
Song: Gary Numan - This Wreckage
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Derick Varn
2024-11-10 02:46:11 +0000 UTCCan you link me? I could only find the interview from 4/5/24
daytorn
2024-09-28 19:38:48 +0000 UTCIt's on YouTube
Stephen CM
2024-09-28 15:30:09 +0000 UTCIs the platypus panel Sean was on available?
daytorn
2024-09-26 06:02:24 +0000 UTCIt's a great space. They do tons of cool events.
Ross Wolfe
2024-09-25 13:57:08 +0000 UTChttps://endnotes.org.uk/articles/the-defeat-of-the-workers-movement
daytorn
2024-09-22 01:36:44 +0000 UTCI read the Bernes piece on 'If We Burn' that they mentioned and got to this bit: "There is a kernel of truth to this account, inasmuch as social movements today do live in the shadow of a long 1968 whose logic and repertoire have not been overcome, but this is, in my view and in the view of many others, less the result of ideology than of long-term structural changes in capitalism which are now global. In any case..." Basically just curious if anyone has works/people to read that would expand on this, since Bernes moves on with his argument after the aside.
Samwise
2024-09-20 22:03:33 +0000 UTCI'll be real with you, I have avoided most journals and essays and books about the Floyd uprising because I assume by default that they're going to be overly optimistic or just plain wish-casting. It felt like a lot of the leftist writing that came out in the aftermath of that moment was made by people projecting some kind of secret revolutionary communist undercurrent that drove the Average Everyday American to the streets that summer, and I just...don't buy it. Maybe I'll have to pick up the book and give it a chance.
synthmage
2024-09-20 20:44:50 +0000 UTCThank you.
boogaboogabooga
2024-09-20 08:02:20 +0000 UTCPhil Neel and Aaron Benanav I think
Tulley
2024-09-20 07:51:50 +0000 UTCwoodbine sounds based
M.R. Alchemist
2024-09-19 10:56:03 +0000 UTCWho is Varn citing at approximately 1:35:30? It's 2 people.
boogaboogabooga
2024-09-19 09:04:49 +0000 UTCUntil now, I hadn't heard anyone talk about how embarrassed people are about 2020 and how quickly that flopped. Weirdly refreshing to hear it. It seems repressed.
Gray
2024-09-18 21:02:52 +0000 UTC‘These people are easily manipulable because they’re highly online’ put that on a giant banner. If you’re a younger person who grew up with social media and related platforms disentangling yourself from it isn’t just a healthy choice, it’s also clarifying on what it is you actually care about and believe and don’t just respond to on an emotive or aesthetic level. Side note but on the train of thought that being critical means you don’t have a Whiggish view of history and purely positive development, I fully believe in the future (or a potential positive vision of it) 85% of what the internet is, if it exists at all as we understand it now, will be totally done away with and viewed as a major social misstep.
Cole
2024-09-18 14:52:29 +0000 UTCAbsolutely love the end, it should be that way, lets be of use to our fellow workers and live the actual sacrifices necessary to start a project thats based on solidarity.
Trey
2024-09-18 14:10:12 +0000 UTCSeconded
Stephen CM
2024-09-18 13:12:20 +0000 UTCPleased to be the first to say: hell yeah
Jim
2024-09-18 10:02:05 +0000 UTC
