Premium 335: The Brothers Dim
Added 2024-12-02 21:45:15 +0000 UTCThis week we're finally getting to the bottom of love. We also read an op-ed in the New York Times about how the current dating scene led to the election of Donald Trump, which was ultimately disappointing and anticlimactic, and which we wound up mostly agreeing with.
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I just saw VPJD responded to The Ethicist so I'm 100% convinced he still listens
Some Guy
2024-12-20 21:43:12 +0000 UTCWhy did Tom's banished Italian man turn Jamaican all of a sudden lmao
jortcoyote
2024-12-09 13:31:26 +0000 UTCTarence is extremely black pilled.
billbo
2024-12-07 04:23:31 +0000 UTCOnly if Jimmy Page performs the role of Dick Cheney and Bob Dylan performs the role of Joe Libermann.
Guy Incognito
2024-12-06 22:19:23 +0000 UTCI need twice the opportunity to talk with my fellow sickos. Make me feel less insane.
Guy Incognito
2024-12-06 22:00:09 +0000 UTCNtm that we all ultimately take the insurance companies word on the final bill we pay. Ask for an itemized bill and it is like a restaurant dropping a check with $4 salad kitchen facilities $15 municipal water treatment plant $3 in-network food materials.
BookMisser
2024-12-06 21:54:45 +0000 UTCUHC initially denied NICU care for one of my twins because they somehow only realized that I had two babies months after I delivered (confidence inspiring). I should’ve framed the weirdo letter they wrote—personally addressing my newborn—to tell her that her services were redundant and her claim was denied. What kind of sicko could okay sending that letter out to a zero year old? It was resolved when I (working full time as a bioinformatician with serious post partum brain damage and two young babies) called UHC and all the relevant hospital departments to track down what was wrong. Fingers crossed they know the fear we experience playing Russian Roulette with medical debt. That shooter could have been hired but that smile… being hired wouldn’t preclude loving your job
BookMisser
2024-12-06 21:45:32 +0000 UTC"Polling data actually showed that Kamala was eating shit and was way behind, but we decided to go with a more they-are-neck-in-neck narrative. This was just a one-off though. The next time there's an election and this happens, we'll be straight with you from the jump. Please don't dwell on this." It's a bold strategy in a time of alarmingly low faith in "mainstream news-reporting" and things being easy to look up on the internet.
Jesper Ohlsson
2024-12-06 03:35:31 +0000 UTCMen aren't going to college as much because it's expensive as fuck with no jobs at the end, fuck all that idealist cultural analysis bullshit
mexicanhalloween .
2024-12-05 23:00:43 +0000 UTCfor a Glen Powell romcom binge you can also add Set It Up and Hit Man to Anyone But You (all are on Netflix, and I think Hit Man would be one of the best movies of the 21st century if they had stuck the landing)
zoë hayden
2024-12-05 21:58:14 +0000 UTCLove you guys and am glad to be back after taking a break. Forgot how wonderful Tom's voice feels on my nervous system. 😂 Tarence, based on my recent binge of your latest episodes, seems like you've been reading a lot about indigenous folks and the awful things we did to them. If you have any book recommendations, I would love to hear them! Recently have been learning more about this myself. Thank you and God bless.
Cait B
2024-12-05 21:28:36 +0000 UTCIf AQ had taken out the steelers stadium I certainly would have been more conflicted about them
mexicanhalloween .
2024-12-05 16:19:43 +0000 UTCThe one time I ever went to an old timey barber, dude disappeared into a back room for a minute. Idk why I even peeked back there but I was looking for him to get started or something and caught him taking shots off a 1.75 of bottom shelf vodka. I was 19 at the time so I stayed to get a dog-shit haircut from the guy and then never went back
Chapo has always branded nu metal as right wing
2024-12-05 05:10:12 +0000 UTCYeah different times. 5th grade I was quoting MST3K and Seinfeld
Al Harris
2024-12-05 03:29:24 +0000 UTCMy alma mater brags every year that "this is the most impressive and accomplished freshman class in the history of the university". I have no idea if that's true or not really.
Lucy McGillicuddy
2024-12-04 23:30:12 +0000 UTCMuch better than Jingle
sarah
2024-12-04 21:31:16 +0000 UTCAnd the Michael Urie christmas rom com - Single All the Way. Instant classic for me
sarah
2024-12-04 21:31:02 +0000 UTCI agree and I notice it even in coworkers under the age of about 25. There’s always been extremists but the mainstreaming of people like Tate is what’s made it so insidious and so pervasive. You don’t have to buy one magazine and then look through the ads and send away for the other creepy books you want to buy, or go talk to the weird person at the flea market. It’s right there on a kids phone, in the house.
Eva
2024-12-04 18:05:39 +0000 UTCImagine being unattractive to women and blaming it on them! It’s the same thing these people complaining about being cancelled for their beliefs, maybe if the people you want to be around find your beliefs vile, you should look inward a bit. Instead we have a project to make vile things acceptable, and it’s not going to work!
Sammy
2024-12-04 17:32:43 +0000 UTCNewish romcoms y’all can check out: Anyone But You Fire Island No Hard Feelings The Lovebirds Happiest Season (xmas movie too) Romcoms but about friendship: Babes Bottoms
sarah
2024-12-04 17:00:33 +0000 UTCI can’t imagine growing up with Andrew Tate. We need Steve Irwin back now more than ever.
Grumpy Botany
2024-12-04 14:24:35 +0000 UTCagree
Jacob Nathan
2024-12-04 14:06:00 +0000 UTCThere's al body of gender theory known as hegemonic masculinity which I find helpful for thinking about this stuff. The gist of it is that there are different ways of being masculine, and in a given time, place, and culture those ways exist in a hierarchy. At present in places like the US the most honoured form - the hegemonic masculinity - is deeply tied to being most unlike the feminine. You can add very grounded political economy to this too, going to college/uni is feminised because all the colleges are woke, but also men find the skilled trades in like construction a more welcoming environment because they're typically male doninated. For many women, the perceived road to financial stability is a degree and an office job because those high paying trades aren't as open to women. The industries dominated by women that require similar qualifications are things like childcare and aged care. The pay is much worse. Whether college translates to financial stability and not just a lifetime of debt is a separate issue.
UltraCoil
2024-12-04 11:20:29 +0000 UTCDank Early B reference
glenn mohre
2024-12-04 04:17:00 +0000 UTCHey guys any chance you could start uploading the main episodes to the patreon feed?
5 inches is plenty
2024-12-04 02:07:46 +0000 UTCLove is a burning thing.
Mickey Soltys
2024-12-04 01:48:12 +0000 UTCLove is "waking up everyday with someone and finding a new adventure"... into the boundless joy of the world of commerce. Christmas is comin' boyz, get yr sweetheart "somethin 👌🏼😉 real nice". Cousin Eddie knows.
Chicken Man Cory
2024-12-04 01:13:21 +0000 UTCGiacomo reference 👀
hootin n hollerin
2024-12-03 23:14:43 +0000 UTCY'all are making a big error in underestimating the effects of "The Manosphere." People your and my age are not as affected by it. However, in my experience (I taught fifth grade for several years).... It's really insane how many young preteen and teen boys are really influenced by that stuff. My nine year old students were quoting Andrew Tate DAILY. And these kids' attitudes are being shaped by these people. There's more to say but I'll leave it at that.
Clayne Zollinger III
2024-12-03 23:06:57 +0000 UTCLet's start busting those balls, folks. No balls should feel safe.
Gorrozolla aka AntiLinguist
2024-12-03 22:26:00 +0000 UTCAll I heard while you read through that article was "men aren't handling rising equality well, so let's keep enabling their engineered incompetence and misogyny, instead of busting their balls until they lose the desire to belittle women.
Gorrozolla aka AntiLinguist
2024-12-03 22:24:54 +0000 UTC“His soul is damned to hell, according to any ancient texts. Pick one” Is a BAR
A Wright
2024-12-03 21:55:12 +0000 UTCTry Dissection: Photographs of a Rite of Passage in American Medicine if you want to see the whole tradition of medical students carrying around their cadaver photos. There’s a subgenre where the doctor is lying on the table and they’ve arranged the skeletons around him as the students. It’s fun until you notice most of the bodies are of Black people, and you get to thinking about how they got into the medical school.
Eva
2024-12-03 21:00:18 +0000 UTCThe nose keeps the snore
Andrew Dunn
2024-12-03 19:38:02 +0000 UTCBy the way, I want a continuation of the Gore-Lieberman debate analysis
Grant
2024-12-03 19:35:35 +0000 UTCGo birds
Julia
2024-12-03 19:20:51 +0000 UTCI will up my Patreon subscription if we get a line for line reading of the Bob Dylan bio-pic coming out this month from the boys.
Hxp
2024-12-03 19:19:14 +0000 UTC*It's Destiny screaming at Fuentes that he's sucking the dick wrong, even though it's increasingly clear to everyone that he's only vaguely familiar with the topic himself.* It's a real "who would you rather not?" with those two.
Jesper Ohlsson
2024-12-03 17:48:19 +0000 UTCfuuuuuuuuuuuck
billy
2024-12-03 17:38:45 +0000 UTCI like to call it anti-social media.
Vincent
2024-12-03 17:27:06 +0000 UTCIf a tree falls in a forest
BookMisser
2024-12-03 17:23:12 +0000 UTCI definitely have one of those hateful misogynists as my boss. I used to argue with them a lot. But now I just let him think that I agree with him. And act like I'm a Trump supporter. It's much easier and I was almost losing my job before.
Evan
2024-12-03 17:00:17 +0000 UTCLeft this one with more questions than answers, boys. For instance, Nick Fuentes and Destiny sucked and fucked each other on cam? I’m not going to look it up either. None of us will ever know.
Pat
2024-12-03 16:25:04 +0000 UTCI agree- couldn’t care less
William
2024-12-03 14:42:18 +0000 UTCNabokov’s protagonist in Bend Sinister was a total judgy, wife-guy. Also the toad feels like he had the same tender underbelly as trump maybe? Nobody likes bend sinister but I’ll never understand why. I think about the toad from time to time. Like the wolf in “the fourth pig”.
BookMisser
2024-12-03 14:35:47 +0000 UTCUniversities are enrolling anyone who can pay tuition and can plausibly be said to have met admissions requirements
William
2024-12-03 14:22:42 +0000 UTCOkay, I love how this dumbass author just sidesteps EVERYTHING that could possibly describe why people think things suck, describing it as “turmoil” when every fucking part of life has become transactional or app-ified, there’s hardly any time to do anything in your life except vegitate for a few hours before you go to sleep and work the same exhausting schedule the next day, and giving birth in the proper medical facilities cost as much as a car loan or a mortgage. Yeah, it’s just “turmoil” and that’s why Trump won fuck OFF you daffy cunt
William
2024-12-03 14:11:11 +0000 UTCTarence, hear me out; just eat cheerios and take vitamin d supps
William
2024-12-03 13:56:55 +0000 UTCEither that or higher paying jobs in trades and trades adjacent fields are more accessible to men Edit: I replied without having listened to the episode
William
2024-12-03 13:23:23 +0000 UTCI wonder if more women are enrolling in college to maybe try and close up the wage gap? 🤔
Eric Murphy
2024-12-03 13:13:58 +0000 UTCI thought that was a weird title for a book about love. Days of abandonment is a good read.
BookMisser
2024-12-03 12:45:32 +0000 UTCNow we know who’s responsible
BookMisser
2024-12-03 12:43:48 +0000 UTCYou only ever see Matthew Miller behind that lectern because he’s actually imprisoned in ice from the waist down.
hellurr
2024-12-03 12:41:43 +0000 UTCG.
Trevor
2024-12-03 12:34:01 +0000 UTCMad Men reference is so funny. I have a separate credit card for work travel and my husband and I call it my "executive account" after that show.
Carolyn
2024-12-03 12:33:05 +0000 UTCYeah I kept thinking were women dissatisfied with the general date or scared to be on a date with someone who seems fine but turns out to make you scrap to get out in one piece? That stress puts a cloud over early dates for some folks. For my two cents maybe people smile more on dating profiles? It is like a cemetery in there. Making yourself read outside of your place is good way to meet folks. I always made myself get out to the park, coffee shop whatever. Over time you get to talking to folks? Best of luck in the dating world. That shit has low lows and high highs :)
BookMisser
2024-12-03 12:13:50 +0000 UTCBanger. Love you guys.
Teleseen
2024-12-03 10:40:25 +0000 UTCDante has no rizz
Marty Shambles
2024-12-03 09:50:15 +0000 UTCHemingway the person in real life is like "let's compare dicks, I want to kill an elephant with a butter knife, I'm going to jump out of this helicopter, I'm going to spear of marlin and machine gun sharks." Hemingway characters be like "my dick doesn't work and I cry at night."
Andrew Dunn
2024-12-03 09:37:24 +0000 UTCJournalism 101: claim without blinking that the type of men who can afford dating coaches are actually representative of the larger male population
Feedbag
2024-12-03 08:06:52 +0000 UTCSorry, he’s the literary locker room.
bnlar
2024-12-03 07:10:37 +0000 UTCHemingway is early manosphere
bnlar
2024-12-03 07:00:12 +0000 UTC"a good-ah prince, he mustah be, so, so good and-ah kind, yes? So veri, veri kind and ah-nice. Baaaht, if he can-a-not be, ah gooood priiince, he mustah be so cruel, so veri notah nice. He musta-ah be - how you say? - a so spicy meat'ah ball, eh? Please, you see, yes?" It's a really long book.
Jesper Ohlsson
2024-12-03 06:09:28 +0000 UTCThe best Brother's Grimm story is Herr Korbes. Wherein the woodland creatures hide in a man's house and beat the snot out of him. https://sites.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm041.html
Alex Hennessey
2024-12-03 05:36:34 +0000 UTCMy mum went to a Catholic mass for the first time in over a decade on 9/11, which is actually hilarious (she’s not been back since)
Alexandra
2024-12-03 05:00:48 +0000 UTCLame dudes have been getting no attention from ladies since the beginning of time. Has nothing to do with ladies going to college or whatever. These dudes weren’t getting laid in the 50s or in the Middle Ages.
Sammy
2024-12-03 04:48:01 +0000 UTCTarence have you read Disconnecting The Dots?
Grant Francis
2024-12-03 04:46:54 +0000 UTCAt risk of sounding like a fucking nerd Alexandra Kollontai covered the alienation between the sexes bit back in like 1915 or whatever, she and Engels have had a revival among the leftist discourse soup about the family lately. PS - Tarence read some Michael Camille, you’ll probably dig him.
Kunopis
2024-12-03 04:27:46 +0000 UTCI wonder how does she account for white women swinging for trump? Kinda deflates her thesis
Austin
2024-12-03 04:23:26 +0000 UTCMasterclass episode. God bless our sweet boys Tom and Tarence.
CS
2024-12-03 04:14:36 +0000 UTCAs a man, being threatened by a more successful lady is some dork ass loser shit.
Sammy
2024-12-03 04:07:41 +0000 UTCHmm I wonder if the blue party of bourgeois rule and genocide will "learn lessons" and reach out to disaffected young men in 2028. Surely they wouldn't keep the producing class permanently and evenly divided on culture war horseshit to give the hoi polloi the illusion that politics is occurring, laughing as they count the fruits of our exploitation all the way to the bank, lighting the world on fire as they go.
Sai
2024-12-03 03:35:26 +0000 UTCA#1 episode name
DNygk
2024-12-03 03:22:49 +0000 UTCGuy on the plane sounds like that Replika Paul fella from those tweets
Zoe
2024-12-03 02:56:04 +0000 UTCYou guys are smarter than me by a lot, but every so often you get a random detail on an obscure thing wrong I internally twitch for a second. Really is a nice seasoning to the 'cast.
Spiders in a Trenchcoat
2024-12-03 01:45:58 +0000 UTCcan’t believe tom and tarence don’t know there’s a new pope, and she’s an anime girl
apolla
2024-12-03 01:43:00 +0000 UTCWith respect to womens enrollment in university, I think you failed to consider that they're going to college to get more knowledge. Where there has been a marked uptick of men going to jupiter to get more, you guessed it: stupider.
Tom's Trips Official
2024-12-03 01:30:40 +0000 UTCOne of these days Tarence is going to meet the Baathist coal miner. His other tulpas are popping up everywhere.
Richard Cochnar
2024-12-03 00:11:44 +0000 UTCReally ripped my face off with, "this show is great for people who know references but never dug any deeper into it."
Drew Reed-Moutray
2024-12-02 23:42:15 +0000 UTCHansel and Gretel is scary because the parents try so hard to dispose of their kids
Uso Dayo
2024-12-02 23:25:00 +0000 UTCWhen it comes to watching I Love Lucy reruns to cope with the worst terror attack on American soil, I approve.
Lucy McGillicuddy
2024-12-02 23:24:18 +0000 UTCI would like to point out on an entirely unrelated medium that I have just been informed that I won $5 on Biden pardoning Hunter.
Nicholas J Skradski
2024-12-02 23:19:06 +0000 UTCHey, did God pardon his son?
Uso Dayo
2024-12-02 22:56:00 +0000 UTCHoly fuck they come out firing in this one
Uso Dayo
2024-12-02 22:37:11 +0000 UTCOscar Wilde bodied Victorianism and the latter never recovered
Gabe
2024-12-02 22:29:47 +0000 UTC22:05 and I hope you never consider me at all
McMiller
2024-12-02 22:26:36 +0000 UTCread possession a couple years ago and it rocked my world. never read anything like it before or since, sooOOoo good.
ashley noelle
2024-12-02 22:18:56 +0000 UTCTrump said I was BRICed up
Carter Mize
2024-12-02 22:04:09 +0000 UTCI love you guys
McMiller
2024-12-02 22:03:16 +0000 UTC
