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Premium 298: No Shortcuts With Quality

Two articles this week. The first one is about how corporations are trying to train A.I. to squeeze more profit out of workers. The second is about various geoengineering attempts that are sure to get us all killed.

Premium 298: No Shortcuts With Quality

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Lucy McGillicuddy

I was cancelled due to having no rizz.

Lucy McGillicuddy

Is Tarence actually bisexual or does he just joke about being gay a lot? You know, before his asexuality that is

gray

i was thinking of an anime movie I saw as a kid called armitage III. robotics company secretly creates a class of cyborgs that can think and feel and breed to combat a low birthrate on human colonies on terra formed Mars. Iirc the politics in this movie are kinda fucked as there is an anti feminist slant but might be worth a rewatch

Josh Aych

Re violins and cyborg babies: I wanna here the boys' remix of 'The Devil Went Down to Georgia' cyborg style.

Polenta

I've read a coupla things attempting to counter the myth that brain development ends at 25/27. Your brains are still maturing! Hope everybody feels better soon.

James Paisley

Is there anything good on YouTube besides Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't? (and E.I./Grayzone/etc.} somethin new somethin fresh my gettin-old ass maybe hasn't heard about. I offer CPBBD

Caleb Ransom

I love this show, you guys are great

ShotGaming

@Tarence thanks for the rec on the Mike Davis piece in the New Left Review! “On the other shore, Biden conducts a nonstop seance with Dean Acheson and all the ghosts of Cold Wars past. The White House is visionless in the wilderness it helped to create. All the think tanks and genius minds that supposedly guide the Clinton-Obama wing of the Democratic Party are in their own way as lizard-brained as the soothsayers in the Kremlin.” 🧨

Mike

...this is apropos of nothing, but outlets "having to" list how long an article takes to read is one of the most depressingly baby-bjorn shit ever. It takes as much time to read it as the text is long, or the subject's density requires. Have some self-respect. If you feel the need to "ooh here comes the plane with the apple-sauce!" your readers, you might as well close up shop. //EDIT: Yes, I am aware that this is crank shit.

Jesper Ohlsson

“Bargain Bin Baby”, next band name

Shawn McCall

anyone that can idly raise the question at 27:14 has--in droves--the kind of intelligence and perception that truly matters. Trillbilly all hits no misses streak continues unblemished 😤

i could have sworn this happened already ngl

//friday ...it really was a 1-2-3 punch this week of Israel going "yes, we did target aid trucks, actually. You got us, congratulations. And yes, we're sorry about it, or whatever. And yes, we might have let Microsoft Clippy handle some of the targeting for that stuff. God, get off our back already". Far be it for me to give Israel any PR-pointers here, but it's really bad optics to have headlines - in the same week - about how you intentionally target international aid-relief efforts with deadly force, while also feeling that you're "on top of this whole thing enough" that you're letting the equivalent of a drinking-bird do the war for you while you're otherwise occupied. ...it's just awesome that we can let people "do things with A.I" and journalists at large just go "oh, sounds legit", despite "using A.I" is literally as precise as saying "A computer is involved somewhere in the chain of all this".

Jesper Ohlsson

Yup. Native Americans like the Tohono O’odom capture carbon through hand tilling their corn, squash, beans etc. Simple. Machine tilling doesn’t capture carbon. Only hand tilling the ancient way captures carbon. 🏴‍☠️

Kaz jennifer Louise Lasker Schwarz

I'd like to agree with this post and also add that the anxiety and rumination won't go away until you learn to live with not knowing exactly how life will pan out. THAT is the final skill to learn - to live with the uncertainty and without the reassurance. It sounds impossible but try this - the next time you get one of those intrusive "do I have dementia" thoughts, simply say to yourself "I may have dementia". Think of how uncomfortable that makes you feel, on a scale of 1-10. Then, sit with it until your discomfort drops in half (like an 8/10 becomes a 4/10). The more often you do that, the more you notice that it starts to disturb you less, or take less time to clear out. This is basically what therapists do to treat people with obsessive compulsive disorder (Exposure Response Prevention or ERP is the name of this modality). IANA mental health professional, I just know one really well. Cheers

Internet Lefty

Y'all gettin' into some Jonathan Lethem territory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun,_with_Occasional_Music

Scott

Tom: welcome to moving in your 30s. I bought a house in 2022 and I think I must have left my keys hanging in my doors like 15 times.

æmbər

Hey lads! Question for ya: how is is living in Kentucky? Yay or nay? Been thinking of moving there.

Sonicthunder35

And they use that logic to destroy old growth forest and replant invasive trees elsewhere. It's a fucking sham

N

As a natural resource management student, learning about carbon storage schemes for forestry has made me feel so crazy. Most of the carbon valuation organizations are completely non-governmental and unregulated and it sketches me out so much. You can't convince me that planting a certain area of trees is somehow equal to an additional ton of emissions, it's ludicrous.

Blahblahblah

Coming back to say the word you're looking for is "stunted"

Jonathan Howard

"they're turning the rec-center into a prison!". ...this is the bleakest 80's dance-movie yet.

Jesper Ohlsson

Sorry to say this but Tarence’s descent into madness is absurdly hilarious. Someone get that man a lay before he disintegrates! …Tom should probably see a brain doc, not for nothing

SF

The Secret 3rd Thing: Snake laying across the fork of the trolley problem.

ben shull

We have trillions of carbon capture plants....they're called plants and they don't need any fucking power to run.

Steve Nutt

Dostoievsky would absolutely listen to this podcast

Feedbag

this shit goes crazy stupid dummy hard as fuck. twp 4 lyfe

dick titball

fjords = sea holler *chefs kiss*

nonjabidness

...if that carbon capture device in Iceland is the same that was featured on the "Well there's Your Problem" geo-engineering podcast, then it - according them - can capture the polluting equivalence of around 100 cars or so, per year, if it ran all the time. So, if your truck allows for it, try to buy in bulk, when available. We're going to need quite a few of them, if this is to be an earnest endeavor (and not just a greenwashing exercise for polluting industry, or a bit of "there, there" cooing for people's "climate anxiety".). The unspoken promise of things like carbon-capture is that we can continue more or less at pace - we can still party in the apartment, but now it has a trash-bin in the corner we can put some of the waste in. My understanding of it, though, is that the scale of "trash-bins we need" is so vast, that the manufacturing of additional trash-bins to take care of the mess, is seriously becoming a concern. The carbon-capture machine in Iceland is presumably made out of aluminum or steel; the former needing a lot of power to process/re-process and the latter is notoriously dirty. Making enough of them would land you in a situation where "the creation of additional carbon-capture machines of this nature" becomes a non-trivial, polluting industry in its own right. A lot of this is boring, unsexy calculations of reality that's not as enticing as the vague promise, ten years ago, of "someone will probably come up with a great, smart invention that deals with all this".

Jesper Ohlsson

When I worked in a warehouse I would take out a big box at the bottom of a large stack of pallets and sleep in there. i had to make sure to put the box back when I woke up. I sometimes worried the stack of pallets could’ve collapsed on me but it was the perfect secret spot.

Nick

The idea of blotting out the sun is a concept so horrifying that it’s used as a worst case scenario suicide mission by the humans in The Matrix. Reality is unfortunately much less interesting and the extinction level event is not the existence of machines and instead the existence of capitalists.

meadowlark

Pingwins 2: Frozen Tears

Amy

Great episode guys. Just a small note. China's growth is, yes, slowing down somewhat as they become more of a "developed" country and less of a "developing" country. However, their growth of 5.2% GDP in 2023 is still strong, and vastly outpaced the US (2.5%), any European country (highest being Montenegro at 4.5%, but it's a small country), basically outpacing every developed capitalist country in the world. Meanwhile, the PRC continues to make leaps and bounds of progress in high speed rail, renewable energy, poverty alleviation, and advanced technology like semiconductor chips. Basically blowing any capitalist country out of the water in these categories. The PRC produced more renewable energy (mostly solar) in 2023, than the rest of the world has produced combined, all-time. They are also making deals with other countries through their Belt and Road initiative to bring advanced infrastructure to developing countries in Africa and elsewhere, deals that are mutually beneficial. The PRC continues to showcase the dynamism and power of a socialist-style economy. Without the massive graft, corruption, and need for short term quarterly profits, socialist economic development is a vastly more powerful engine than capitalist economic development. The PRC is living proof of this. Solidarity, Wayfinder Radio

Wayfinder Radio

I think yall have Havana Syndrome

sarah

There are cyborg babies in the novel Gun, With Occasional Music and the weight of their sentience drives them all to become surly alcoholics

zalder

I would vote to give the most painful cancer to oil execs, or put them in solitary confinement where the air is treated to have a slightly higher carbon dioxide content

William

This episode is imparded.

AL

I think they forgot the "the" and were suggesting a specific episode

Andrew Dunn

a common refrain on trashfuture: we can only do the impossible

Fingerless

If your gonna jump through this many hoops just say retarded

TowerofOil

I was wheezing by the time we got to impediment

Daniel E

One day Terence will say aloud on the podcast "I have scurvy".

VanLeft

They’ve been on the show, and Roz & Liam have been on trillbillies

William

Folks should check out the Well There’s Your Problem episode on the topic of trying to out-engineer climate change. An even bleaker pitch that’s been made is, rather than putting up giant space curtains, we could simply spread an opaque, reflective fog in the stratosphere to reflect the suns light. No more blue skies - just an endless expanse of white clouds.

Cthulhusbedandbreakfast

Oh damn! I had no idea. That’s interesting

Grant

Started by Stanley Kubrick and given to Steven Spielberg due to the technology not being to Kubrick’s liking at the time (he knew the heart attack gun was locked and loaded)

Adam Holley

At 30 minutes, y’all basically just start describing the plot of Spielberg’s ‘A.I. Artificial Intelligence’ starring Haley Joel Osment and Jude Law lol

Grant

Punt the cyborg babies into the factories to do my job which forces me into homelessness and yet I'm fuming mad that an artificial human baby ai is taking over the school academic team.

Denver

Everyone here wants to diagnose your horrible brains but I know the truth. You've both been Havana gunned 😎

Triskaideka

The characterization of fjords first as "holes" then "peninsulas" and finally as "sea hollers" was probably the highlight of my day.

Tom's Trips Official

notes of Ray’s Law in this episode lolol

FamilyGorgeous

I had long covid for about six months last year. It did in fact clear up, but my heart goes out to those who haven't been fortunate to recover since they got those symptoms. It's a very scary set of symptoms, and one of my biggest fears lately is what potentially lies down the road insofar as like what it leaves your immune system open to. I dunno.

Sean Dickey

also there are neurons in the heart too

topclock

its entirely a diff vax than the mrna ones

topclock

as in: you describe things i’ve experienced for the last two years after my 3rd covid infection and which doctors largely dismissed or tested w/o helpful results and over the last six months ive recovered significantly after 1st dose and booster of novavax

topclock

respectfully and with love: you guys should get the Novavax vaccine. it keeps sounding like you’re both dealing with creeping long covid symptoms.

topclock

Alert on Apple News: man strikes out again - on his way to a no hitter

William

Tom, I know this was just posted but I want to say things like dementia or cognitive decline are so incredibly rare at your age and usually a known genetic problem. So many things can cause brain fog/scatterbrained-ness like stress, depression, big life changes, Covid, trauma, medication, diet issues etc. This is also probably a lot of health anxiety kicking in. The good thing is the brain fog from these things is usually temporary! If you continuously notice stuff like this over a long period of time, talk to your doctor, but not because it’s cognitive decline!. It’s probably stress/anxiety which can be managed and is not permanent. But they wouldn’t even do a cognitive decline test on someone your age or for stuff like that. As someone who had insane health anxiety about cognitive decline-you’ll be fine ❤️

Ceruleania


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