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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - 5x22 "The End" Full Reaction

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - 5x22 "The End" Full Reaction

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This is going to be my last AoS reaction video from Shelley. Not that I think seasons six and seven are bad, the exact opposite, it's more that some fans of the show seem determined to make reactors view the last two seasons in the same way that they happen view it. Which is always grossly unfair/kind of crappy, and it goes against the point of watching these reaction videos in the first place. So, with that being said, toodles. It's been fun.

Ian Fleming

Very late comment but I wanted to add my thoughts on why this season is important. Daisy and Fitz were on the opposite ends of the moral spectrum for most of this season. Daisy could never imagine hurting or killing someone she cares about and Fitz was so sure of his theories and choices even if it did hurt those around him. They both needed to reach a different understanding to figure out the solution to save the world. Hydra methods are horrible but the solution to saving the world involved crossing lines that shield would have never done normally. The centipede serum is a Hydra creation. Using Jiaying DNA to heal someone is what Whitehall is known for. Daisy had to hurt Talbot to save many lives even though she did not want to. She had to give up the solution to save Coulson. These choices are very difficult which is why it is not surprising that we failed in the other timeline. Basically the shield agent has to be more like Hydra and the Hydra agent had to go back to being like shield. Fitz had to put his own life at risk and not someone else's life. which was the difference that saved innocent lives. It is what a shield agent is supposed to do.

Christopher simeon

I will say Season 6 overarching story is going to have an even more convulted arc with the Big Bad, but it has some of the best episodes in the series.

Isaac Thomas

I must have missed that she said that my bad. If she hadn't (obviously) I still think it's a spoiler just because people knew about things beforehand at the time. Hell, if that's not a spoiler, why not reveal every element that happens in an episode's trailer? They often spoil tons about the episode. Why not before season four say "hey we know ghost rider is coming?" This kind of spoilers are even like when fans will reveal something super important and then go "but it's in the comics we already know this stuff!" There's tons of stuff I don't know about the upcoming Marvel movies because trailers and cons give away almost the entire plots of movies now. Add in analysis videos and its REALLY almost everything. You're gonna say because filmmakers told fans at a 2018 con something was happening it's not a spoiler? If you're watching this show in 2025, 99% of people would have no idea that happened.

TES

You are clearly telling her that Clark will be a main part of the show all the way through S7, and not just Coulson in flashback, dreams, etc. To me, that is a storyline spoiler, even if it doesn’t share the specifics of how he is included going forward. We will have to agree to disagree.

AdoptDontShopPets

The gravity storms created by Talbot are what spread.

Christopher simeon

Technically everyone on the team helped break the loop. The main change is with yoyo and Coulson. Her future self said that she could not change the team or Coulson's choices. Since he listen to her he put all his faith in Daisy defeating Talbot . In both timelines he did not take the serum but giving it to Daisy was the change. Fitz and May stopped Mack and Polly death so that was the change. But that caused Fitz to die. There will be no snap onscreen on the show but that last scene with them talking about people they lost does fit with the timing. The team did not get snapped.

Christopher simeon

I would call this a spoiler. Suggest you delete your post.

AdoptDontShopPets

What a season finale. I don't enjoy this season as much as some others on rewatch because of how dreary the second half is, but man, seeing this season for the first time I was floored (which matters more than rewatchability for me), and this finale was a huge reason why. Not all the episodes were incredible as standalones, but I just loved how everything flows together, the constant philosophical questions about time and morality, the darkness of it all, etc. Like others have said, it was supposed to be the series finale, which would have been perfect. I still love the last two seasons, although very different than the first five. And I love that about the show, it never stops taking huge swings that blow you away.

TES

Without spoilers?

TES

Yeah, ABC decided to wait until the very last minute to renew the show for another season, forcing the cast and crew to put their plans for other projects on hold.

Isaac Thomas

It's definitely not a bad season, as there are several memorable episodes, but I think the overarching plots involving the Big Bads is even more convulated and coincidental than this Season was. And of course, this where the other half of the fandom really starts to push hard on the show being disconnected from the MCU due to the absense of the Snap.

Isaac Thomas

Also, chronologically, this episode takes place before Thanos snaps his fingers. The writers did come up with a way to write around the Snap in Season 6, but chose not to address it because it would open a can of worms that they didn't want to burden the audience, choosing to focus on telling their own story.

Isaac Thomas

Isaac Thomas

So there's two major reasons why we don't see the Snap: firstly, by this point there was basically no relationship left between Marvel Studios and Marvel Television - Jed, Maurissa & Jeff weren't told anything about how Infinity War/Endgame was going to play out, so other than Thanos attacking Earth they couldn't incorporate any plot points (which is also why the time travel rules in AoS are different - not that Endgame follows it's own rules...); then secondly, AoS hadn't been renewed for S6 when this was written (or even when it aired IIRC), so providing a satisfying potential series finale was more important. Gotta say I wasn't a fan of Mack being nominated the Director when I first saw this episode - his recent moralising really makes it seem like he's not a good fit for it (at least at present - he was acting Director in S3 for a bit, so he can do the job). I think the bigger point though is that Daisy realises she currently isn't trusted enough by some of the team to effectively lead them, so it's going to be better at least in the short term for someone else to lead (I think there's also some self-doubt as to whether she's ready as well, but the lack of trust is the bigger issue)

Sean Ellingham

I mean come on. If she enjoys Supernatural all through its entire run, there is no reason to dislike season 6. I really hate the unnecessary hate it gets. It is a very much needed levity from the dreariness of this season.

Mark Bigwood

One of the best finales of the whole show, maybe the best for me, (barring the season 7 one which you have yet to see!), it’s just such a narratively and emotionally satisfying finale for what has been a wholly unpredictable and complicated season of the show. We needed some catharsis, and we got some! So loved your reaction to everything.

Lyla

Season 6 was good but I have a feeling you're not going to like it.

Becky White

Another great finale, which still gets me to this day. The Fitz 'death' was particularly cruel leading to the longest 5 mintes of this show until Jemma reveals that there is another Fitz floating out in space. Love the fact that, even in grief, Jemma still thought logically enough to remember that Fitz Mark I was technically still alive! Fun fact 1...the picture Jemma puts in her suitcase is the one she took of them in the second ever episode outside the temple in Peru. Fun fact 2, on rewatch check out the picture on Enoch's fridge door which shows two people standing on a beach holding hands, which means that Robin knew of this particular scenario before this season started!

Dyrla

You can definitely tell this was intended to be the series finale. It wrapped up most things but also left open others (there was A LOT of fic, let me tell you!). I definitely agree with you about Mack as well. Regarding the timeline stuff, here's how it works: There are two timelines we're dealing with, Timeline A and Timeline B. The battle between Daisy and Talbot is where they fork apart. In 5x22, we see her win, and so the team continues along Timeline A (the Sacred Timeline) where the Earth does not break apart. The times that she doesn't take the centipede serum, they create Timeline B, where the Earth does break apart. Team A, whom we follow in season 5, never actually went back and forth in their own timeline. Enoch took them to Timeline B so they could see what NOT to do in Timeline A. They are then jumped back into Timeline A at the midpoint of season 5. They are accompanied by Deke (this is why he's not paradoxed out of existence, he is no longer in his own timeline), and by Team B Fitz. The team in 5x22 is searching for Team A Fitz, the one we see in 5x05, who had frozen himself before the team returned. So for a while there were actually two Fitzes in the same timeline! ....and then the Snap happens lol. Those poor people in Chicago get double-whammied in the space of a few minutes.

Laurel


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