Supernatural - 4x6 "Yellow Fever" Rewatch
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What's up with Dean and Yorkies? They keep popping up with him! lol
Michele
2024-06-03 13:56:00 +0000 UTCI've always seen Monster Movie as a "meh" episode. I like some parts of it, but think it's silly overall. And I really don't like the Rugaru episode. nope. Andrew Dabb - blech. lol I think it's the co-writers that make his episodes work.
Michele
2024-06-03 13:53:27 +0000 UTCI've learned to see the use of powers and learning how to expand on those powers as a bad thing. That doing that seems to send the special kids down a bad road. They start making poor decisions and lowering their inhibitions to doing bad things. Their behavior seems to change and they start to get off of the feeling of power. I think this was happening to Sam too. He ends up making really poor decisions and going down a really bad road. So bad that he was able to kill an innocent woman who was processed. So much for saving people who were processed. Ruby was able to get him to do that. Where was the Sam we knew who would find a way to achieve the end result without killing that nurse. And she was screaming and he still did it. That's not Sam! So you can't tell me that the use of his powers - as well as drinking that demon blood - didn't have a bad affect on him. And Dean was afraid of that. Dean was right! Sam made those decisions. It's a part of his personality, though. He has a need to find a way to make his gift have a meaning. And to make his life have meaning. We know that he always felt unclean - which is so sad - and he needs to feel that he can fight that and do something good. He's always felt the need to find a higher purpose for himself. Like he has a special calling. Both Sam and Dean are feeling some of that this season. And it's attractive. To feel that you can do something special. Dean may feel like he has a special mission from God, but Sam is also feeling that in his own way. They're both fighting a deep seated guilt they both feel. Even though they shouldn't be feeling guilty. So I'll always speak out whenever I think someone is singling out Dean as the "bad guy" in their relationship.
Michele
2024-06-03 13:52:16 +0000 UTCI wish what Kripke wrote had stayed true. In later seasons - especially seasons 12-15 - some writers definitely seemed to be writing Dean as a dick. It seemed to me that the showrunners didn't think much of Dean at times.
Michele
2024-06-03 10:21:24 +0000 UTCApart from agreeing with what everyone else has said, it really hit me how amazing the little girl who played Lilith is. I looked her up and found she's called Sierra McCormick and has been in a ton of shows and films since, including American Horror Stories.
Jay
2024-05-28 22:14:22 +0000 UTCa thousand times this!
Jay
2024-05-28 21:49:16 +0000 UTCYes, agree with your take in the second paragraph. I was going to touch upon that scene in another post, but as it relates to the TO BE CONTINUED as raised by Shelley at the 0:00.53 mark. So if I may elaborate my views in here ... So in 4.03 In the Beginning, there was a sort of unfinished matter and/or a cliffhanger that wasn't resolved by the end of that episode. Cas had said that the purpose of the time travel was related to the - 'You have to stop it' and further correlated 'it' with 'So stop it. Or we will' at the end - but didn't actually say what 'it' is specifically (the audience didn't get the answer to this). Dean didn't know yet and by that extension nor did the audience, as Dean acted as the audience's POV. When Dean knew, the audience would too. But 4.03 didn't provide that answer. So my takeaway is that we have to connect that small arc of 'what it is' with the beginning of the 4.04 episode - which was Sam with Ruby doing the demon-pulling exercise behind Dean's back as he was supposed to be asleep. As you've mentioned, my takeaway too was that Dean has to stop Sam from partnering with Ruby, and that was what was meant by Cas at the end of 4.03. This fear of what Sam was doing and the partnership with Ruby, plus the ramifications if Sam didn't stop, were what angered/upset Dean most at the beginning of the 4.04 episode, imo. In short, we have to take the beginning of 4.04 to conclude the arc from 4.03. That arc then successfully appeared to be closed when it was bookended with Sam's decision to be done with his powers at the end of 4.04 - the outcome and lessons learned from the episode's motw case. SAM: Anyway, it doesn't matter. These powers... it's playing with fire. I'm done with them. Dean, at least on the surface, managed to stop Sam as Cas had stressed upon him, failing which the angels would take action. That is what the TO BE CONTINUED is, in my opinion, since there is a tie-in connection of this subject matter in both episodes. If not stated, then the significance of the connections between episodes is lost to most audiences.
rose mnor
2024-05-28 04:25:31 +0000 UTCI don’t often watch this episode because the road haul death of an innocent sweet man is just too gruesome. I did enjoy watching Dean being a sweet scared bean for the first part of the episode. Regarding Dean being so upset with Sam partnering with Ruby and using his powers…. Cas told Dean to “Stop it, or we will.” I think Dean feels the pressure to get Sam to stop and unfortunately only knows the examples he has seen from his father. He is worried about both where demons might be leading Sam and what the angels might do if Sam doesn’t stop.
AdoptDontShopPets
2024-05-27 22:51:44 +0000 UTCDean coughing up those woodchips is triggering my cough right now. I feel like I've been coughing up them all day! Iconic episode, and I'm with you Shelley - I just want to hug Dean.
Sharon Owen
2024-05-27 19:28:10 +0000 UTCAfter this episode, Yellow Fever, aired on October 23, 2008, in an unprecedented move after an episode aired, Eric Kripke had to make a statement: Television: Supernatural Creator Eric Kripke Clarifies A Comment Made About Dean Winchester in Yellow Fever October 24, 2008 In this past Thursday’s episode of Supernatural titled Yellow Fever, Dean Winchester (Jensen Ackles) was infected with something called Ghost Sickness. In an exchange between Dean and his brother Sam Winchester (Jared Padalecki) a comment was made by Sam that the others who had died from this were considered ‘real dicks’. Dean responds ‘so I’m a dick’? Within minutes of the episode ending, the internet was filled with fans going to Supernatural forums and Live Journals to protest this apparent denigration of the character of Dean Winchester by the writers of Supernatural. Today, Supernatural Creator Eric Kripke has released the following statement to clarify the issue and assure fans that no denigration of Dean Winchester was ever truly intended. Eric Kripke: “So I’ve never before responded directly to the fandom’s comments about an episode, and I don’t plan to make a habit of it, but I couldn’t resist dropping in a thought about the episode “Yellow Fever.” Which is this: Dean is not a dick. None of the writers, or anyone on the creative team of Supernatural, think Dean’s ever been a dick, past, present, or future. He’s a hero. Dean did NOT contract the ghost sickness because he’s a dick. Victims contract the illness because they use “fear as a weapon.” Dean asks Lilith at the episode’s end, “why did I get infected?” And she cryptically responds, “you know why. Listen to your heart.” We, as the writers, probably should have emphasized this mystery more, I take responsibility for that omission. But the point is: the reason he was infected is because of a SECRET he’s keeping. A dark secret that will be revealed in Episode 10 [Heaven and Hell]. And not at all because of any dickishness, implied or otherwise. Thanks, gang. “ Eric Kripke, Creator Supernatural Updated: October 24, 2008 — 11:26 pm via link: https://eclipsemagazine.com/television-supernatural-creator-eric-kripke-clarifies-a-comment-made-about-dean-winchester-in-yellow-fever/
rose mnor
2024-05-27 11:50:11 +0000 UTCYes, I don’t generally rewatch this episode any longer because the MOTW story is just horrific, especially since they “solve” it by making his ghost go through it again. 🤬
AdoptDontShopPets
2024-05-27 11:24:06 +0000 UTCMy comments on the Metamorphosis portion of the reaction video (haven't seen the whole video yet): At 0:01:30 mark, Do we really not get where Dean's anger towards Sam colluding with Ruby is coming from? This is so not about telling what Sam should do and being very John-like, imo. 1) He just got back from 40 years in hell, 30 years of it being tortured, on the rack in hell by a DEMON (Alastair), then broke down and became a demon himself into torturing souls in hell, of which he felt so guilty and couldn't forgive himself. 2) Got rescued by an angel, then went back in time to witness his parents' lives get butchered by the OG DEMON - Yellow-Eyes. 3) Have we forgotten what happened in Lazarus Rising already?? He was brought back alive and immediately (he realized later in this episode ) found out that Sam had lied to him on THE DAY he came back, - a) by acting (in the motel) like he did not know Ruby - a DEMON, then - b) lying and saying Ruby is dead, and - c) lying that he didn't use his psychic powers; only instead now he used his DEMON-pulling powers, yea potato, potahto I don't know if most people expect Dean to be perfect, but I do believe that without realizing it, a lot of people hold Dean to very unreasonable standards. Why is Dean not allowed to be angry at Sam for finding out that Sam had been working with A DEMON after all that he [Dean] had gone through - just let Dean be angry for gosh sake. His anger is justified, imo.
rose mnor
2024-05-27 09:15:39 +0000 UTCJust got to the scene where Sam is explaining to Dean the theory he and Bobby have for why this ghost sickness was passed to Dean and not Sam. The reason for this was in what Shelley actually said before the episode. Dean was being self-righteous and using "the mission from God" over Sam to get him to bend to his will. This episode brought Dean back down to earth a bit and releveled the playing field between Sam and Dean. IMO. It also explains a little bit, to me, why Sam was not as empathetic as he usually is. I can also blame the writing a bit too, as in maybe they didn't really understand Sam's character, but I really am thinking there was more to it than just ignorance. People, and especially Dean fans have their issues with that part, but it serves a larger purpose after the way Dean was treating Sam in the previous episodes. ETA: Shelley - you also made some great points about Dean's fear and fighting fear with fear. I really believe this episode showed us that Dean has things to fear about admitting what he did in hell, and how that would affect what is happening with Sam right now. This is not my favorite episode. For all the humor and the good parts, the story itself hits some pretty deeply disturbing points for me, personally, because I have an autistic son and a non-verbal autistic nephew. I have to watch them go through life feeling like Luther while being treated with suspicion and prejudice from those who were there to protect and care for them. So it's one of those ones I don't rewatch very often, although I will admit that I really enjoy when SPN makes you think. Also, I am bummed we don't get "It's the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester" episode.
Vel
2024-05-27 08:41:47 +0000 UTC
