Supernatural - 15x3 "The Rupture" Full Reaction
Added 2023-08-09 07:11:51 +0000 UTC
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And in the beginning of S13, he had that little argument with Dean about how Mary always called Dean and went to Dean for everything, so he’s never really felt a strong maternal connection with Mary or rather FROM Mary. Juxtapose that with how Rowena pretty much always contacts Sam first, takes him under her wing in teaching him witchcraft and continues to rely on and trust him despite KNOWING that he was going to be the bringer of her real, permanent death. Add to that Rowena’s episodes in the beginning of S13 of her trying to get Death to bring back Crowley and her showing so much regret for how their mother/son relationship was. And to have Sam finally get that maternal relationship and then having to INTENTIONALLY kill her?! That poor guy NEVER catches a break!
Kristin Dorner
2023-08-11 05:09:11 +0000 UTCOof, this episode. So much happened and it all hurt😭 I’m bummed that Belphagor is dead. Alex did such a great job with that character and I wanted to know more about him (ESPECIALLY after Ardad’s “Do you have any idea what he is?!” Like what the heck was that?!) Like you I am so glad they are out of that town. The first two episodes made me so nervous when they premiered, but thank goodness for Bobo Berens! Losing Rowena devastated me😭 She was such a dynamic, complex character. I totally get those who ship her and Sam romantically, but personally I see their relationship as more mentor/student or even more familial, with Rowena as a motherly figure. For me, what happens hurts so much more and is so much more poetic and tragic when viewed through that lens. Sam has always felt a little responsible for Mary’s death (both of them: one bc she died while Azazel was prepping him for his destiny and the 2nd bc he was the first one who saw Jack as “just a kid”and tried to convince Dean that they should save him.) (+)
Kristin Dorner
2023-08-11 05:00:02 +0000 UTCabsolutely! Us dean fans got hit so hard :( but I feel like people are unnecessarily mean about dean here. Yes he’s angry and says some hurtful things, but he’s a human who has just lost him mum (for the second time, and when the first time was the catalyst for his incredibly traumatic life it’s bound to hit him hard), he lost his son, and he just found out that his entire (v traumatic) life was orchestrated by god for his entertainment?!?! He’s gonna be pissed, and yes he’s going to be unable to control his anger— he’s only human. I feel like he has the most realistic reaction to all of this, Sam and cas seem to take it so well and that makes Dean look even worse in comparison 😭
Kit
2023-08-10 12:54:19 +0000 UTCBobo did a live tweet on the night of the episode, here are some of highlights, via link: https://twitter.com/robertberens/status/1187564189398683649 - For the record, Cass was scripted to have his song cut off mid singing— but yes, we made @mishacollins sing the whole thing. #Supernatural - The scene between Cass and Dean changed a lot collaboratively from draft to draft, well into production. It was a lengthy process. But even in editing it shifted— in part because Jensen is able to say so much *without* words. Masterful. And heartbreaking. #Supernatural - As originally written, the scene was sadder— but less harsh. Then it got *really* harsh. I felt it was important that Dean admit he knows Mary’s death wasn’t Cass’s fault... there were conversations, it got softer again. But in editing the scene played strongest with fewer words. - What @Johnnyfitz006 was able to do— using Jensen’s performance to communicate nuances of anger and regret— was really masterful. My extra words were less impactful than just letting the staging and performance communicate the scene. There are some sublime cuts in that sequence.
rose mnor
2023-08-10 09:22:47 +0000 UTCSuch a great reaction, Shelley, to an excellent episode ... lol at your 54.20 min mark "and I'm like 'divorce arc' hahaha ain't that cute they're going through a divorce ... BIIITCHH !!!... THEY WENT THROUGH A DIVORCE!!!" ... is so funny I can't even ... My computer went kaput the day before this reaction dropped. Fortunately, I can still watch it but I cannot comment due to my mobile limitations. My computer's back and now I can, yay! ... they're long so I'll put some of them in the reply ... and they're DeanCas heavy, so, yada ... yada ... - So this episode is written by Robert "Bobo" Berens and directed by Charles Beeson, who gave us The French Mistake ... and Bobo wrote this following closely the emotional fallout from the E1418 Absence. We had a momentary reprieve but now we are going to face head-on the fallout between Dean and Cas, and what a moment it was ... - a tiny digression here ... Misha's uneven gaits during these episodes were so obvious around this time ... he would eventually undergo his first hip replacement surgery during the winter holidays in Dec '19, i.e. after the mid-season finale. Such a difference after both hip replacement surgeries - watching his steady, and proud strides in Gotham Knights wearing his exceptionally fine and body-fitting wardrobes ... okay moment over ... moving on ... - Cas very early in the plan already cast his doubt about Belphagor and clearly frustrated with Dean's insensitivity in disregarding his objections to working with Belphagor, a continuity brought again from episode 1. And from the get-go, he put forward to the gang his suspicions about Bel's plans ... In the episode's script (Pink Draft), pg 11/51, DEAN : Cass'll go. On Cass. That's the last thing he wants to do -- he made clear to Dean how he felt about BeI in Ep. 1501. Off Cas's look-- DEAN : You've been to HeIl. Thrown by Dean's insensitivity-- frustrated, boxed in CASTIEL : Seems like I don't have a choice (then, re: BeI) You realize-- this is all his idea it serves his agenda. Whatever that is. via link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vh-G5bBlphE78l9f_6wkhvbVeNVNxrOA/view - I enjoyed so much Cas and Belphagor's scenes. They both were such a delight - Alex's performance against Misha is so good, he is having so much fun .. his smirking and pushing and needling Cas ... but then that smiting happened, and during the aftermath scene with Dean when he reached the top side, the script emphasized that Cas was traumatized by it - he went silent - too shaken and couldn't defend himself to Dean, and his silence only drove Dean's anger ... as per the stage directions for these scenes, from the said script pg 34-36/51. - Such a fantastic scene between Samwena ... I remembered a fan revealed on sm about her auto session encounter with Ruthie before this episode aired, that she loves that relationship, and Ruthie said that the fan would then surely like an oncoming moment in a future episode, meaning this one. I loved that Ruthie knew that many of us liked that relationship a lot ... - That ending scene, I was stunned watching it live with my hand covering my mouth, tears down my cheeks ... I couldn't believe it watching my tv ... - apparently, Jensen changed a lot of the emotional beats according to Bobo, and he made the scene so much better ... - I appreciate Jensen so much for using his body language - Dean looks down and only looks up again in stubborn defiance when Cas says he can't even look at him ... to communicate his silent regret after that harsh "Why that something always happen to be you" his eyes going rapidly left and right, bobbing his head sideways which I took as 'it's complicated' to Cas's "you still blame me for Mary", and his facial reaction and his "Where are you going..." upon realizing that Cas is going away because of their fight ... arghh ... it elevated that scene so high with nuance and jumbled emotions instead of just harsh wordplay as per OG script, and it hurts so much ...
rose mnor
2023-08-10 09:15:59 +0000 UTCCrowley would be in the Empty, not Hell. Demons & Angels go to the Empty when they die. I did write a fanfic whereby he returns to Hell, but I can't give you the link as it contains tons of spoilers. This was an amazing episode. Jared just killed it. You could feel the loss, as Rowena has become something of a mentor to Sam. I agree with the physical pain part. When I first saw it, I swear my chest hurt. And Rowena not only sacrificing herself like Crowley, but her last words being the same as her son's??? My hearrt... But that last scene makes the pain worse. We told you the divorce arc is not easy to watch. I agree that Dean is angry. He's angry about his mother's death, he's angry about God pulling the strings all their lives, he's angry that they lost Rowena. And he's taking it all out on Cas. Yes, alot of times Cas does screw up - trusting Metatron, becoming Godstiel, letting the Leviathan's in, stealing the Colt. But Dean, do you remember when Rufus died? You said all past mistakes are forgiven. Clean slate.
Amye Sabin
2023-08-10 05:55:49 +0000 UTCThis episode was so tragic it was Shakespearean. Let me say first that I think Rowena could have made Sam into a damn fine witch, you know she always wanted students. I start with Samwena because it's my secret ship. The intensity and emotion makes me cry with them every time. I love how she always called him Samuel and then admitted had grown to care for him. I mean it's Sam so it's not hard. I just wish they had had more time. Nothing is better on this show than when the assemble a squad. And this last iteration, the boys, Cas, Jack and Rowena was my favorite. I love that deep down we know she was a good person because of her sacrifice. Rowena had a rough life and she developed that hard exterior to protect herself, I know I did. But my ship sailed and I am sad. Only thing to say about Cas killing Jack is, I thought angels didn't cry, but Cas does. And he cried for his son because he is lost to him now. I felt for Cas so much, he so very human now and has changed so much. I love "emotional Cas" because it makes it so much more when you think he learned to feel because of Dean. I don't ship it I've said it before, but then maybe I do because I see why. There's love there on both sides. To me it is a spiritual love. It must be because Dean's soul touched Castiel in a way he had never experienced before. All those thousands of years on Earth and no one change him like Dean has. I seriously don't think Dean is being fair, it's one of his worst traits. He gets hurt, then he gets mad. This episode three and it was worth sitting through the first two. I'm just glad they are out of that town. I knew this would rock Shelley's world and she didn't disappoint. I am so hyped for several future episodes. Go Season 15!
Brenda Lewis
2023-08-09 23:48:34 +0000 UTCAn absolutely amazing episode. Stunning acting and writing. I love Rowena, she is my queen, so her death is hard but so well done. I just love how her and Sam's relationship changed from when he had her chained up in season 10, to being devastated by having to kill her here. and even though their relationship wasn't front and center on our screens we still saw the change between them, at least I did😊 I love the dynamic between the actors and characters in this episode. Everyone knocks it out of the park. And I love that Ketch went out trying to protect Sam, Dean and Cas, his friends. There is the one scene where all I can see is the bloopers, they're hysterical.
Susan Stork
2023-08-09 23:33:59 +0000 UTCwe'll make sure she sees those bloopers ;)
Sharon Owen
2023-08-09 22:51:55 +0000 UTCAh Shelley, I want to give you a hug! I want to tell you it's going to be OK, I really do. Before this episode screened, I was wondering whether it had anything to do with The Rapture in season 4 - I've only just realised that towards the end of The Rapture Cas walks away from Dean (saying "I serve heaven, not you") so that's a good echo. In The Rapture Cas goes back to heaven (even if it's only for a couple of episodes), but now where is he going to go? Rowena's fall into hell reminded me of Sam swan diving into hell in Swansong. Ruth was so great! I even forgot the blooper reel version of her spell scene. And they are doing the spell in the Carver Mausoleum - maybe there's something more than an in-joke? (Jeremy Carver's era saw the swoony destiel romance of s8, the angry angry Dean of s9 and s10)
Jay
2023-08-09 21:38:03 +0000 UTCYes, I do think that's important to take note of, for us it's been months since we saw Mary die, but it's been very little time for Dean. He's grieving, in pain, and badly hurt over everything, and he's lashing out at the person he feels bears some responsibility, which imo, he does. I don't think Cas deserves that much anger or blame though, but Dean is lashing out, and I understand that.
Linda Moore
2023-08-09 21:20:05 +0000 UTCAs always I'm with Dean. It is the Winchester way to solve the immediate problem and deal with the consequences later. I was ready for the Belphagor "God" arc to commence. I thought Alex would have fun with that. Also, it's been maybe a week since Mary died, Dean is still mourning her death. Of course, he's still angry. He hasn't even had time to fully process it.
KAREN GAUCK
2023-08-09 19:28:17 +0000 UTCThe calibre of writing from the last few episode compared to this episode is so notable. The direction and production quality was also significantly better.
Kim Rigg
2023-08-09 17:22:48 +0000 UTCA toast to Bobo, he fed us so well.
BexFangirl
2023-08-09 15:04:17 +0000 UTCOne of my very fave eps of the season.
BexFangirl
2023-08-09 14:52:13 +0000 UTCI knew you'd appreciate this one. Rowena's sacrifice is so powerful and that last scene hurts even more. Beautifully written, acted and directed, all the way through.
Helen Wood
2023-08-09 13:42:42 +0000 UTC“Cope” King. 🤣🤣🤣 That was just about the best tweet ever. Thank you for brightening my day 🧡
AdoptDontShopPets
2023-08-09 12:54:11 +0000 UTCYou asked how did we all survive the divorce in this episode? Well, for us Dean stannies on sm, it was brutal. I have PTSD from it. Only half joking(and not meaning to diminish true ptss).
AdoptDontShopPets
2023-08-09 12:51:29 +0000 UTCthe exile edits to that last scene sheeeesh 😮💨 hahaha haven’t watched the reaction yet but i remember so vividly watching the episode for the first time and wanting to throw my computer because wdym why is that something always seems to be you after everything they’ve been through and all the messes you have made in the process , dean ?? they really apmted up the tension between deancas in these last few seasons and im here eating it right up hahaha i’m excited to watch your reaction later today and get all the feels all over again. one of the best episodes of the season / later spn seasons for sure and ofc it’s a berens episode. our “cope” king , iykyk
vita
2023-08-09 10:00:20 +0000 UTCAlso, can't wait for your reaction to the next episode. It's one of my favorites of the season.
Leticia Pierce
2023-08-09 09:39:06 +0000 UTCThis episode gets me everytime, no matter how many times I watch it. And yes, the Sam and Rowena emotional scene, and then, on top of that , we get the divorce breakup scene of Dean and Cas! I felt like how you did when I seen it the first time. So many emotions!
Leticia Pierce
2023-08-09 09:38:21 +0000 UTCAfter we had to suffer through a dabb episode and a buckleming episode, Robert berens comes to the rescue, bobo always manages to both devastate me and also leaves me completely gobsmacked at how tragically beautiful his writing is, this episode is so good but so painful at the same time in a true supernatural fashion, seeing cas crying over having to smite Jack's body always makes me wanna reach out to the screen and hug him and tell him it will be okay, Misha did a fantastic job this episode both in that scene and in the break up scene at the end, I felt for cas so deeply, my heart is broken everytime I watch it, cas was supposed to be an emotionless creature yet he feels the most human, I feel his grief and hopelessness and loss, he lost his friend Mary then he lost his son and now his best friend 😞 he's all alone, in the moment he needs dean the most, he has to grief alone, everything he abandoned heaven for is gone, everything he fought so hard to have crumbled, his greatest insecurity/fear confirmed to him, that the winchesters only use him for his powers but don't actually care about him 😭 and now that his powers are failing?!! Hello!!! I guess he figured there's no use in staying, he looked back so hoping dean would ask him to stay 😭. The divorce arc is so painful and so real and row, I can't believe cas just said it's time for me to move on, that's textbook couple breakup language 😭😞. Dean regrets what he said and wanted to say something I can see it in dean's eyes but his anger is clouding his judgement, saying that cas is the reason everything goes wrong all the time is so not fair, without cas the winchesters would be dead so long ago, all of them made mistake through the show huge ones, Sam even opened the gates of hell and raised lucifer, dean took the mark of Cain unnecessarily but sure cas's hands getting forced to change the plan here and kill his son's body is the "screw up" we can't understand or move on from sigh. I bet you real money that if cas had let belphegore suck all the souls and became a god like character dean would be screaming at cas and blaming him for not stopping him, he can't win, I read so many fix it fics after this episode so I get it. Only dean and cas can have a break up without even getting together first 😭😢. Rowena the MVP of this episode for sure, my samwena heart was both full and broken at the same time, when she held his chin and said that's my boy I shattered into million pieces, it reminded me of Madison asking Sam to kill her saying it's the only way and Sam having to kill her in "heart" great parallel from bobo but why does Sam have to kill the women he loves, why all of them die!! I hate it here, I too wasn't mad at Rowena's ending I thought it was fitting and greater send off than I could've ever asked for, it's certainly better than Kevin's, her ending is very reminiscing of Crowley's ending, a great sacrifice, both Crowley's and Rowena's last words were "goodbye, boys" I also love that Sam is Rowena's apprentice, I love that they touched on the fact that Sam is practically a witch, his this close to the glowing purple eyes, throughout the show he's always the one reading latin and casting spells, Sam embracing his witchy side would be so powerful, Rowena had her coven in Sam after all, remember in season 10 how all she wanted was to form a coven and mentor students and teach them magic? She tried to recruit so many young witches, she finally did it with Sam, I glee with joy everytime she calls Sam Samuel, it's my favorite thing I don't wanna take your beautiful headcanon of Rowena and Crowley being together in hell but Crowley is a demon and when demons and angels die they don't go to hell, they go sleep in the empty 😢 Ardat saying to cas "Do you have any idea what he is?!" About belphegor then both ardat and belphegore dying right after is so?? I guess we'll never know what he is? What a weird thing to say, isn't he just a demon? What do you mean what he is? Also how dare they cut out cas singing! I want the whole thing, supernatural release the tape
Hasnaa
2023-08-09 08:54:49 +0000 UTCI've been anxiously waiting for this one. When you said you feel "physical pain", you literally took the words from my mind! I feel like I have an elephant on my chest every time I watch Sam kill Rowena. With the exception of Charlie, no other death has been so difficult for me. I love when Rowena says "we've grown quite fond of one another" to Sam. But I also think it only made it more painful for him to kill her. When grabs him by the chin and says "That's my boy" after he stabs her...it's one of the few times I tear up. The way Cas and Dean part is obviously the other agonizing part of this episode. And it sucks for Ketch to die in such a gruesome manner, but he redeemed himself in the end, IMO.
IgoZoom
2023-08-09 08:34:39 +0000 UTCTypical spn - meh episode that makes you wonder why you watch the show, followed up by a BANGER where the hits just keep coming ?!?! I thought I'd only see such a charged moment between Rowena and Sam in fanfic but here we are!! IMO the best spn death for a woman in the whole show. i hate to have her die but i loved everything about it. Also proud - she did it! and the writing - A+ work, Berens. Ending the episode with cas leaving and dean alone - just the knockout punch after everything else. i'm not okay every time i watch this. dean is so angry, cas is so lonely - it's so hard to watch. it's 10/10 a breakup and it HURTS. the rupture!!!! ughhhh!!!
Rae
2023-08-09 08:33:01 +0000 UTC
