Supernatural - "Season 13 Wrap Up" Review
Added 2023-04-13 03:41:09 +0000 UTC
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Hi Shelley, this is super late but thanks for sharing your thoughts! We are not the same … on many points. Lol. But that’s totally fine. I’m very late to the conversation, but I’d like to add a few of my thoughts. It’s so funny how different our (fans in general) opinions can be. I like some episodes this season, but I don’t really like Season 13 overall since the negatives outweigh the positives for me (too much Lucifer, Colonel Sanders, wasted Gabriel, the way the AU is done). I like Jack, I like that we got more of Sam’s feelings on things, I like Rowena’s use in this season, and I like that Sam and Dean didn’t have massive personal drama with each other, and that they tried to cheer each other up. I like the earlier seasons better than the later ones, but I am done with them having huge beef with each other. I like that they have mostly been on the same page for a while now, with smaller disagreements. No epic fights. I actually like both Seasons 11 and 14 better. I don’t really judge my favourites by the overall plot, but more the number of episodes I like and how much I like them in a season. EDIT TO ADD: I agree with a lot of people that you should get to experience binging the seasons, but if you’d like to share a video on your overall thoughts on the seasons, and maybe pick a few to rewatch with us that would be cool.
Sarai
2023-04-20 00:39:31 +0000 UTCI figured it out. Patreon no longer accepts hypertext codes. But thank you.
Amye Sabin
2023-04-19 00:18:20 +0000 UTCI’m not sure what you mean by the p,b,i though I know when I am on desktop I have to hold down either the ‘shift’ or ‘command’ key in order to make a paragraph when I hit ‘return’ key
AdoptDontShopPets
2023-04-18 13:09:39 +0000 UTCKaren, my paragraph keys (the 'p', 'b', 'i'' etc) aren't working. Did Patreon change anything? If you could help I'd appreciate it. Thanx!
Amye Sabin
2023-04-18 13:03:57 +0000 UTCDon't be upset about being annoyed with Lucifer. <b>We all</b> were annoyed with the characteer this season!<p></p> <p>My favorite episode is probably 'Scoobynatural', and it's okay for the reasons you chose it not to be. But oddly, I also really like 'The Thing'. It was a nice trick that Sam's kidnappers were actually the good guys. Then again, I also liked 'A Most Holy Man' for the nuances of the Noir genre. And Massi Furlan as Father Luca was fabulous. This is probably my favorite season of the latter five. </p> <p>While I know there are some fans that dislike S14, I happen to really like it. So you probably won't, since we disagree on things like Ketch's redemption, S11 finale, Chuck/God. LOL But I'm hoping you find enjoyment no matter what.</p>
Amye Sabin
2023-04-18 13:02:45 +0000 UTChey! me too! i think s8 miiiight beat them out at times but i love 14 and 15. i think they improve in hindsight as well, since the arcs and themes are so long and require a lot of patience for the payoff.
Rae
2023-04-15 23:18:49 +0000 UTCspot on.
Rae
2023-04-15 23:17:28 +0000 UTCHere is the bullet point list I kept while watching your video Agree: - surprised I loved Jack immediately in this season - 13 better than 11 and 12 - more Christian Keyes - didn’t like Lucifer storyline -rowena redemption arc is a good idea -Gabriel’s return and the connection with Sam was fan service (and mayb cast service, too) Other comments: -13.05 is my #1 -don’t react to all SPN again. Maybe just give us a recap of your thoughts at the end of each season during your rewatch, if you feel like it. Or really whenever you feel like it…every 5 season, every change in showrunner…whenever you have something you wanna share. And if you want to do a reaction to your favorites or maybe one that ins a poll…cool.
AdoptDontShopPets
2023-04-15 04:31:42 +0000 UTCCompletely agree
AdoptDontShopPets
2023-04-15 04:08:40 +0000 UTCI am glad to see that the big empty is your favorite episode because it's written by Meredith Glynn which i 💯 believe is *the* strongest writer in the dabb era which explains why kripke snatched her for the boys season 3. Michael!dean looks like he belongs to the set of peaky blinders but got thrown in supernatural by accident, why is he wearing this hat 🤣
Hasnaa
2023-04-14 10:45:32 +0000 UTCGreat wrap-up review, Shelley ... For what it's worth, I think the lack of Jack in the middle of the season was because (imo) TPTB was waiting to see the audience's reaction to this new character. It was a risky venture to introduce a new character in a 13-year, very long and already established 3-main character show, and they needed to know that it was going to work for the show. Looking back, Jack was in episodes 1-4, 6, 9, 14, and then there was a long gap until 20-23 - a total of 11 episodes. When this season premiered in Oct 2017, they were at that time filming episode 9 - The Bad Place, which was the mid-season finale. And normally around this time, the story had already been broken but not yet filmed, up to maybe around 11-13 episodes. ... and Alex kicked ass in the season premiere and knocked the role out of the park ... but should it not work out, Jack might have been killed off in ep. 14 Good Intention, maybe, lol ... As for Season 14, whoa boy, buckle up as there will obviously and definitely be bad consequences for Jack's loss of grace and Michael's possession of Dean all season long ... cannot wait to watch them with you ... As for your rewatch reaction, gosh, anything is okay by me I guess (there are great suggestions already posted here by others) since I only watch your SPN reactions and occasionally SPN fan content videos .... others not so much. So, I thought there's no harm in asking whether we might still continue getting SPN rewatch/reaction videos after you finish the series. However and whatever arrangement is convenient for you, know that it is very much appreciated ...
rose mnor
2023-04-14 05:22:05 +0000 UTCit pains me so much that you have season 1 ranked at number 13 when seasons 6 7 11 and 13 exist 😭 season 1 holds such a special place in my heart and season 1 dean, my beloved, is just so pure. its the dean i fell in love with and the dean i saw myself in and i would literally die for him just ahh my babygirl 🥲 season 14 is gonna be a ride and i hope you're ready 😅
vita
2023-04-13 23:41:39 +0000 UTCI would LOVE a full rewatch, but I understand it's a big commitment. Maybe if you can't do reactions to all episodes you could show us some, and then do a revised wrap up for each season? Either way, I'm looking forward to the next two seasons!
Abigail
2023-04-13 22:51:07 +0000 UTCI've been catching up on your SPN reactions and its been a joy to rewatch the episodes through your eyes. I really hope you like s14 and s15 - they're my favourite seasons! I know that's not a popular opinion but I think they are the most coherent (cohesive?) seasons since since s4-5 (if you put 15.20 in a box on its own). After SPN there's the Winchesters to look forward to!
Jay
2023-04-13 20:17:37 +0000 UTCI always said supernatural would've benefited from becoming an ensamble cast, like truly an ensamble cast, not just in seasons posters but in the actual show, but that was probably not gonna happen knowing how small the budget is and how big of a chunk J2 require if you want to keep them which naturally increased every season, also the real people in charge (producers & show runners) are older straight white men who don't like change, if it's not broken why fix it, and honestly many of the GA also doesn't like change, it really became so obviouse how refusing to change and grow started hurting the story and quality, there are only too many stories that you can tell with only two main characters, no other character had a real chance. I agree that the widower arc in the first 5 episodes of this season felt like building up to dean realizing his feelings for cas but as usual supernatural always comes so close to getting there then backpedal so hard that it gives you whiplash and makes you question your sanity, dean saying "imagine you, me and cas toes in the sand on a beach somewhere" dean truly can't imagine a happy future without cas in it 🥺, the fact that after tombstone they just threw cas in a cell and moved on like he didn't exist, i was so excited for cas & Jack's relationship but that too was sacrificed for plot, i don't really connect with the au versions of our favorite characters that much, why introduce an au bobby when we could follow up on what our bobby is doing! Last we saw him he was in trouble in heaven so how about we follow up on that especially now that we know heaven is fucked? They really thought they could just give us an au version of charlie as a consolation prize after they butchered our charlie? Nah didn't work for me, i appreciate the effort but too little too late.
Hasnaa
2023-04-13 17:10:16 +0000 UTCNo show runner ever had full "power" because of Singer, so I am hesitant to blame any one person for the show's shortcomings. Singer did some good things, but also caused some problems with visions other folks might have had for the show. That said--I think full rewatches of a few beloved episodes per season and binge watching the rest on your own time is a great idea. Not to mention, all the con footage you will soon be able to watch with spoilers not being an issue!
Lauran Mitchell
2023-04-13 15:23:58 +0000 UTCSera Gamble was thrown under the bus during the transition period of the CW. A lot was going on with the network, and Robert Singer played a huge role in her being fired. Don't forget, it was Kripke himself that said Singer was placed in a co-showrunner role throughout the entirety of the show as the producer and money man. But it was only the last few seasons where he called himself "co-showrunner" with Dabb (it's even in the credits). Kind of like how fandom gets blamed or used as a scapegoat for the show's hits and misses. With active participation in fandom being a very small portion of the audience, how does that even make sense? If you take a 40,000 ft view, it's pretty easy to figure out what was really happening BTS. And the bottom line is always about money and power. It's never about what the fans want. But they will use the fans to get more views and clicks... it's a model they perfected in the writers room and called it "the sweet spot"
Vel
2023-04-13 13:27:20 +0000 UTCLoved this wrap up video 😍, i was shocked to see that tombstone and funeralia weren't in your top 5 but i loved that they at least are in the honorable mention section. As for what's to do after supernatural, i would prefer you experience the rewatch on your own coz it's a different experience and a necessary one & would be done much faster if done with no reactions, i would love a season wrap up video after each season binge and definitely would like you to continue with the SPN fan content and SPN conventions, i still want to see you reacting to other new popular shorter shows like Wednesday, arcane, shadow and bone etc... And that would be very difficult if you're doing a full SPN rewatch, i would also prefer you diving into the fandom on both Tumblr and twitter and maybe read some fics along with us on discord, we have a good library but you don't have the role to access it yet, not until you finish the show so I'm also excited about that, i am mostly excited about the fan creations part of the after the show
Hasnaa
2023-04-13 09:01:44 +0000 UTCThough I would watch a complete rewatch as well, I agree it would be a long time commitment again and like other people said the best option would probably be doing a couple episodes per season (you could do your top five or chose different ones on your own or you could make a poll for people to vote on which ones they would want to see most) and the rest of the episodes in between you could just do on your own. Whatever you decide on, I'd love to see. I'm also absolutely in love with the fan content reactions, so you to be free in watching all the spoilery stuff or whatever will be exciting then.
BexFangirl
2023-04-13 08:53:20 +0000 UTCGreat wrap up. I actually rank this season relatively high. I see the problems and annoying bits, but I still enjoyed it a lot, so after my first watch through it ended up, it's actually sharing third rank with s9. So only s8 and s5 rank higher on my list. Now looking back on my ranking I'm not so sure about some choices, but that is how my enjoyment compared in my first watch through. I actually have 7 episodes of this season on my fave episode list, but quite a couple of them have question marks behind them and only three don't have a question mark. If I look at them my top five would be 5. episode 5 4. episode 3 3. episode 23 2. episode 1 1. episode 6 (Tombstone actually is in my top 10 of the show) I like your picks too. It's really funny to me how little our choises match compared with last season, where they were the same five episodes. XD Only two seasons left, only 40 more episodes. That sounds like nothing. I'm excited for what's to come.
BexFangirl
2023-04-13 08:46:05 +0000 UTCI agree with Sharon! maybe re-watches of the best/most important episodes with us and maybe after each season a wrap up of how you feel about it after watching it the second time around :)
Kate
2023-04-13 08:12:11 +0000 UTCGreat wrap up and I think the majority of people are on the same page as you. I would rewatch at your own pace. Perhaps just reacting to your top five from each season if people are interested. LOVE that you are going to keep reacting to the SPN fan content (conventions) but I would prefer seeing you react to other shows / movies over a full SPN rewatch.
Kim Rigg
2023-04-13 08:07:09 +0000 UTCGood predictons from season 13 - I think that might have been your best ones yet. I can't wait for you to get into season 14, we have the 300th episode this season as well. Another big milestone!
Sharon Owen
2023-04-13 07:17:48 +0000 UTCI would definitely recommend you just rewatch it by yourself it's a whole different experience bingeing it - but maybe with a select few episodes on a rewatch?
Sharon Owen
2023-04-13 07:07:13 +0000 UTCI wholeheartedly encourage bingeing for your own enjoyment, so perhaps... a vote for commentary? And I still vote for reacting to previous reactions. 😉 So maybe commentary + reacting to select reactions within each commentary video? 😜 I'm greedy, I know.
SKK
2023-04-13 06:13:26 +0000 UTCYou’re definitely not alone with your #1, its my second fav from the season, cause we love angst on this patreon
Luis Nov
2023-04-13 04:54:54 +0000 UTC
