Patreon rewards and community streams

I think a monthly summary should be enough to keep all up to date. Of course, if you think that something important was achieved you can share that. The updates, by my opinion, should happen naturally and don't distract you from the development. I am here for the support and I really don't care about Patreon rewards. The livestream should be open for everyone. The more people participate, the more interesting/productive can be the stream.

I enjoy watching the livestreams, but only if there are enough people online for there to be interesting discussion and content. With the hundreds of people on the first public stream, it was fun and interesting. With the ~8 people on the patron-only stream, it was boring and a waste of time. Honestly, patron-only streams are quite unappealing. Community chat streams would be so much more fun and interesting to watch, and I would actually be eager to join them. Your livestreams benefit from having more people in them, not from being made exclusive/restricted. As we established, nobody is giving you money just because they want some symbolic exclusive patron reward.

The whole point of sponsoring this project is to provide free and open software, so it only makes sense to make the access to the process and ability to learn about it free and open too! 😊Bigger audiences will hopefully lead to more both technical and financial contributions.

I'm here to support the community, watch some high quality hacking and to see the things getting upstreamed proper. It's super interesting to see you stream your work live but personally I prefer occasional text based updates (progress, merged PRs, upstreaming efforts, ..). I guess that's +1 on text updates being more accessible.

For me the reward here is having a badass little machine capable of being a proper Linux and (with Mark Kettenis' work on OpenBSD) Unix workstation. Everything else is extra fluff and not the main game. So... whatever you feel works best?

jslee

don't force the updates, make them natural, as you see fit.

I’m very happy to get written updates, or asynchronous video updates. Really I just want Asahi linux to exist, so knowing that it’s progressing is enough for me!

I'm here to support the effort. Any rewards that I receive here are just extra.

Mr. Flemings

Really I’d you you didn’t do any of this and just spent all of your time on the project. The streams seems an unnecessary distraction.

Tommy Thorn

I'm more interested in the work streams than update streams and would be totally ok if the updates were all via text. As with some others, I'm more interested in the work and the product than necessarily a lot of status updates.

Just agreeing that I am not here for the rewards. And if someone is interested in this project enough to want to watch all the weekly updates, but aren't a patron, they probably are just in a position where they are unable to pay.

I agree with this. My family life really prevents me from watching them. It’s just too much. I’d rather a 40 minute video recapping a week of progress and a write up. That would be ideal for me

hpux735

I really enjoy having the opportunity to watch you work on the project - even if I can't make it live due to the timezone differences. I hope the work streams continue, as they're a good learning opportunity for some of us!

Honestly I am enjoying the text updates. If I tried to hit every live stream that I have access to via patreon I would have no time left, and I read fast

Don't mess up your sleep schedule, and updates "when I have something to share" is better than sharing just for sharing's sake.

I haven’t and won’t participate in the live streams. I like the periodic written updates. I mostly want progress on the project. :) I would like to “hear” a little more about the flaw you found. Thanks!

I don't care for the live streams to be honest. IMHO it is sufficient "to be in the loop" by some updates via posts every now and then. If it is easier / faster for you, a vlog with optional community chats would also be good, though. For what I care, I would prefer that you use your time in the most efficient way (coding/reverse engineering) and keeping the "community stuff" as low as YOU prefer. (So if it helps your workflow to talk to the community - do it. If it is more of a burden: Keep it to a minimum).

This is an open source project. At the current state everyone supporting you does that to advance the project. As soon as people start building upon your work, there might be valid rewards you can offer for money - eg individual questions answered, being able to vote on priorities and so on. But honestly, I hope you never have to go that route and you can do what you think is best for the project. As for the writeups/updates: I really enjoy them and having fun following you along is my personal reward for supporting you. Of course the fun reading the writeups is in no way diminished by others reading them too, I would feel the same reward if you were publishing them on the project website or on GitHub as an extended changelog or something. You’re doing great work and my (small) contribution will continue until the project has matured (or you stop working on it)

Aron

Frankly, it is probably would be better to do 30-40 minute recordings and continue doing write ups. For me as for many others of my generation textual content is more accessible. At the same time when you have a family around, video streams become a problem to attend. So recorded shorter updates sounds good. And thank you for driving the upstreaming effort as well, this is one thing that always was badly cared about.

Personally I'm okay with the current pace of progress updates and I'd rather have you focus on getting the work done rather than spending time throwing off your sleep schedule and keeping us up to date.

Kate Kiesel

That's kind of what I had (private streams, with the idea that it'd be more personal - not quite the same as a 1:1 though), but after the first one it seemed most of the people pledging at those tiers really just want to help the project succeed, and don't expect any fancy perks.

Hector Martin

If you want to do something for a higher tier you could maybe do a live video chat meet Q&A with everyone on video or something simple and short for a tier with a handful of people. Otherwise I agree with generally dropping tiers for live streams etc.

Trent Lloyd