I thought I'd create a Jankman short...
Added 2023-11-04 14:02:25 +0000 UTCHello all, now that I've got that notation video out of the way, I thought I might experiment a little bit before my next video, starting with a Jankman short. Nothing too time consuming so I can get out a result quickly as an experiment with the format.
What I'm going to do is get Jankman to provide his thoughts on a particularly janky thing. Perhaps a music app or website or something else.
It felt like a good opportunity to open up to requests. Is there something you'd particularly like to see put through the jank mill?
I think I'll take suggestions now and then pick a top 5 for people to vote on.
Comments
What If I Told You that actually one of my gripes with Spotify is that it *doesn't* work this way? : D (Explanation: Sometimes I like an album as a whole, and I want to save it as if it was a "playlist" to come back to, but that doesn't mean that every single song on it is favourite-worthy for me, so I'd rather just save the "playlist" but skip the songs : ))
Joanna
2023-11-07 18:53:04 +0000 UTCi don't doubt that "ed" was primitive, and anything was a step up from the teletyper. but `set nocompatible`the way `.` works for some things to be repeated, but `,` and `@` work for others, by default `gt` switches tabs, but for buffers you need to `:bn` . I love (neo)vim and still use it daily, but I can't really say it is not janky
Martin Heuschober
2023-11-07 09:28:14 +0000 UTCWell, it's a matter of evolution. "vim" comes from "vi" which comes from "ed", and "ed" is really primitive. When a sophisticated terminal at one time was 80x24, your color was green, and it weighed 50 pounds, the editor design was bound to have some restrictions. Believe me, full screen editing without the CLACK CLACK CLACK of a Teletype machine was a leap forward.
Brian Miller
2023-11-07 06:56:12 +0000 UTCWhat is with the jankiness about expressive keyboards? A little box made of spruce, strung with tanned sheep's guts that are rubbed with hair from a horse's tail and saturated with tree pitch (violin) is far and away more expressive than the very best in synthesizers. We've put a man on the moon, a helicopter on Mars, two space telescopes, and only three synths with really expressive keyboards (CS-80, Roli Seaboard, and Osmose). Otherwise you have a keyboard choice of sad, sadder, and saddest, all based on a simple electric switch. (Yes, the keyboard may feel nice, but it's still just a simple on/off switch inside!) Really, the main manufacturers don't seem to be even trying.
Brian Miller
2023-11-07 06:51:57 +0000 UTCYou never did get around to doing a jank-down video for Finale. As a 20+ year Finale user, I'll have my popcorn ready.
Jeremey Poparad
2023-11-06 17:10:08 +0000 UTCMight be an unpopular opinion, but I quite like Concur. Especially after the new redesign. Love ExpenseIt - it's very accurate!
Eddie Coldrick
2023-11-06 12:31:08 +0000 UTCGimp, Inkscape and Blender's onboarding (lotsa historical infos there too) would be my suggestion. They are janky, but we don't really have alternatives (Blender improved a lot with 2.8+)
Dominik K
2023-11-06 05:27:21 +0000 UTCWell, now I am intrigued to have gimp cover, with your counter video :D
Sébastien Le Maguer
2023-11-05 22:10:58 +0000 UTCSounds like you need to make one on Patreon's UI jank.
Warren Garabrandt
2023-11-05 15:02:00 +0000 UTCHaha, no, my secret goal was to put my Ardour comment in perspective. I think it really says a lot about the UX flaws of a piece of software when it manages to break an avid self-taught GIMP poweruser who really wanted to like it.
Guineafowl
2023-11-05 12:24:28 +0000 UTCSo if Jankman was to cover GIMP, this may become a 'thing' between us? :)
Tantacrul
2023-11-05 12:07:16 +0000 UTCOh, here's another Linux DAW one: LMMS. Specifically the song-editor module of it, which would make for a perfect Jankman skit with its completely unhinged distinction between "draw" and "edit" modes, that adds nothing of value, but is constantly in the way, and its behavior isn't even consistent. But then again, LMMS as a whole is so clumsy in such a naive way, that mocking it like that might feel like punching down...
Guineafowl
2023-11-05 11:44:11 +0000 UTCI'll defend GIMP till the day I'm in the cold black ground. I've been using it since way before my Linux days, and was actually surprised to learn that it has a reputation for being awkward/unintuitive. A colleague of mine, who is a professional designer/illustrator with decades of experience said that he's never seen anyone use any piece of graphics software as fast and efficiently as I do GIMP. And all that without pretty much ever consulting the manual or forum. Really my only serious gripe with it used to be that it forced you to use separate windows for the different modules, but thankfully they fixed that years ago.
Guineafowl
2023-11-05 11:38:40 +0000 UTCon a not too serious note, there's a real life - not software jank that has been bugging me since I moved to the UK: Windows - in Austria except for windows in the roof all windows swing open to the inside, which allows me to clean the outside of the glass in the uk windows open up or to the outside which makes it impossible unless I get climbing gear and go up the wall from the outside.
Martin Heuschober
2023-11-05 10:35:48 +0000 UTCTrust me, TIDAL is even worse - if you click 'save' on an album, it saves it under you albums folder, but doesn't save the individual songs in your songs folder...
Matt Dorrell
2023-11-05 10:24:35 +0000 UTCno worries, gimp, krita and inkscape were my suggestions, and I second blender
Martin Heuschober
2023-11-05 10:20:32 +0000 UTCSomeone here also mentioned Inkscape and Gimp - and it was a great suggestion. Annoyingly, due to Patreon's new UI jank, I accidentally deleted the comment. Apologies!
Tantacrul
2023-11-05 10:04:51 +0000 UTCDreamweaver makes me want to pull my own teeth out.
eggs_box
2023-11-05 08:15:32 +0000 UTCIf you've never tried FL Studio mobile, please do, it's a work of art. It has a desktop version too, so you think you should be able to just notate something on your iPad and finish it on the desktop. Then you notice you have to airdrop your files to your desktop if you don't use one of two specific cloud providers, but hey you only need to convert it to a full FL Studio project once right? Then you open the FLSM file in FL Studio desktop and find out that what it does is not convert it to a normal FLS project but instead load FLSM as a VST inside of FL Studio for FL Studioception :D
Athalean
2023-11-05 07:18:03 +0000 UTCFinale to complete the notation jank-journey
Robert Drummond
2023-11-05 01:42:00 +0000 UTCi’ll have to second inkscape. working with typography in inkscape is the jankiest shit ever. it only recognizes fonts installed with the system’s font manager, and even then it completely messes up font families so that most are literally unusable. in addition the settings for justification and line height never work. finally, basically no opentype features seem to work as intended. it would be an excellent case for jankman
snikskryt
2023-11-05 00:55:45 +0000 UTChaving used both vim and emacs for years (and still using) i would still say that they have plenty of jank
Martin Heuschober
2023-11-04 23:21:28 +0000 UTCnot just that, online banking in general; havent been able to log onto my bank in months because of their incompetence
Gordinator
2023-11-04 22:56:20 +0000 UTCWith vim and emacs, the intention isn't to be welcoming, but instead to be as efficient as possible. I argue that this is something that needs to exist. Vim and emacs are targeting a group of people, mainly devs, who don't want to deal with inefficient bullshit just to hand-hold the people who can't read a manual.
Gordinator
2023-11-04 22:55:02 +0000 UTCOpen-source games would be great to cover; almost all of them are (sadly) terrible; good examples include 0ad and lincity. also thanks for leaving the image as an attachment, a truly *janky* experience.
Gordinator
2023-11-04 22:53:01 +0000 UTCBe a good friend and be honest with him ;) You'd do the whole Linux music community a solid.
Guineafowl
2023-11-04 21:16:47 +0000 UTCI wholeheartedly agree. Only problem is that I know Paul (who runs Ardour) pretty well and I think I'd never hear the end of it :D
Tantacrul
2023-11-04 21:01:24 +0000 UTCPerhaps the FOSS DAW Ardour? It's not a bad piece of software by any means, but the learning curve is needlessly steep, and even when one manages to comprehend its unique logic, it's just so full of baffling anti-user quirks, that after literal months of struggling with it, I was defeated. I gave up my pipedream of only using free music software, and I downloaded a trial version of Reaper the other day. I've only been using it for a couple days, and I'm already more comfortable and am able to do more with it, without any googling, than I was with Ardour after countless hours of using it, reading the whole manual, reading tons of forum posts, etc.
Guineafowl
2023-11-04 20:55:56 +0000 UTCEarbuds, 4k bluray, Amazon and the new trend of Enshitification
Donall O'Donoghue
2023-11-04 20:14:28 +0000 UTCSpotify. Please, please, please do Spotify. ALL of their apps - web, desktop, mobile - have been frustrating me for years. They're absoutely awful. I know it's less of a "tool" thing and more of "just an app", but they're worth roasting for sure.
Joanna
2023-11-04 19:36:32 +0000 UTCThe new Notion Mobile version is music notation based and is a very polarizing thing. It’s a complete overhaul and redesign of UI and having used the old Notion Mobile for many many years, the new one’s functionality is ultra jank to anyone who knew the old one.
gardenofadam
2023-11-04 18:40:34 +0000 UTCthe iRobot roomba app is small and got some jank vim and Emacs (programming editors) are very powerful and very inaccessible to new users going more in the music direction ardour (daw), garage band, etc. and the Rubik's cube for an april fool's day jank
Martin Heuschober
2023-11-04 17:11:39 +0000 UTCCinema 4d is i think not only the worst ui and ux experience i've ever had but also the worst actually possible.
Charli Harvey
2023-11-04 16:54:12 +0000 UTCSure, no worries. Impractical suggestion on my end 🙈
FlyingWalrus
2023-11-04 16:18:49 +0000 UTCI think I'd have to use it practically to be able to review it, which just seems like a faff... since I'm not an employee or an employer :)
Tantacrul
2023-11-04 16:07:20 +0000 UTCYes exactly. But maybe it's even less popular than I thought.
FlyingWalrus
2023-11-04 16:00:24 +0000 UTCNever heard of it. I see an employee travel management thing... is that it?
Tantacrul
2023-11-04 15:53:29 +0000 UTCDid you ever have to use Concur? Maybe it's not the most interesting topic for a video, but certainly the jankiest user experience I ever had..
FlyingWalrus
2023-11-04 15:48:57 +0000 UTCThe transport network of Dublin/Ireland
Donall O'Donoghue
2023-11-04 14:53:23 +0000 UTCEvery high street bank’s mobile banking app
Nick Moore
2023-11-04 14:47:12 +0000 UTCholy hell, yes, dreamweaver. i had to check if this was even still being made, and oh no, it is.
msx
2023-11-04 14:39:00 +0000 UTCMy gut reaction was to say 'Learning Blender is far too much of an investment for a short...' but then I realised I could make it about the onboarding experience :)
Tantacrul
2023-11-04 14:19:03 +0000 UTCDreamweaver. That might be too much jank though.
Warren Garabrandt
2023-11-04 14:14:42 +0000 UTCPerhaps Blender? Not music, but a bit janky. You might become Project Manager 😅
Eddie Coldrick
2023-11-04 14:05:25 +0000 UTC
