Early Access Video: The Poor Man's Turning Saw
Added 2020-10-10 11:00:02 +0000 UTCFriends:
Lots of people enjoyed the fancy turning saw I made with the great Uri Tuchman. Many other people have urged me to make a simpler version that anyone can make (without having access to a crazy German artist/inventor to make the parts.)
Ask and you shall receive!
I humbly present a turning saw that you can make in day with cheap, common parts. This saw is also a great chance to practice core skills like the bridle joint and the stopped-chamfer. Get a few of these under your belt now and you'll be ready when it's time for a new piece of furniture.
If you want to grab the blades I use, they're right here: https://toolsforworkingwood.com/store/item/GT-BOW12.XX/Gramercy+Tools+12%26quot%3B+Bow+Saw+Blades
(No affiliation.)
*As usual, the plans are currently being drawn and will be posted on Wednesday morning.
Happy Saturday!
--Rex
Comments
So this is a little late, but what is that orange handled saw you are using to rip the stretcher with?
James Crandall
2020-10-30 15:01:09 +0000 UTCC$ 4.86 21%OFF | 350mm 450mm 550mm Frame Saw Replacement Blade 65Mn Steel 7TPI Hand Saw Blades https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0Sd1bt
David Hamilton
2020-10-17 14:29:37 +0000 UTCBefore I start on this one, I'm searching for the blade in my own Country, and guess what. Nowhere to be found. The only thing that comes close are saw blades like this one: (paste to your browsers adress line to see the image) https://static.gamma.nl/dam/27106/123 So if you could tell me how to fabricate one from a bandsaw blade, (like you mention at the beginning), that would be highly appreciated.
Frans van Ballegooijen
2020-10-15 03:28:30 +0000 UTCHey Dennis! Welcome! If you look at the welcome message you got upon joining, there's a link to the plan archive. And I'm about to post these new plans right now.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-14 12:18:20 +0000 UTCI've seen this video about 20 times. Frank is a god among insects.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-14 12:15:59 +0000 UTCThat would totally work, but I would try to find thin band-saw blades and just cut them. Probably better to keep the saw long.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-14 12:15:06 +0000 UTCLoved the video, Rex and I'd really like to make this saw - or one like it. Here's the thing though, I live in Costa Rica and to have those blades shipped here is cost prohibitive. I can get 6 inch coping saw blades here and I was thinking about making a half scale version of the saw based on your plans. I wanted to see what you thought of that idea. Is a half scale version a crazy idea or do you think it would be functional and useful?
Kip Larsen
2020-10-14 02:47:46 +0000 UTCRex! You have to watch this video!! You will not believe the way this man cuts out dovetails with two bow saws and his use of a. scraper to cut. Unfriggen real! https://youtu.be/vKuy3NdLhlE
Will Bonner
2020-10-13 10:16:40 +0000 UTCJust remembered a book I wanted to recommend 'Shaving Horses Lap Shaves and other Woodland Vices' the title alone makes it worth buying but there's some great plans & idea's in there. Unfortunately not available on Amazon at the mo, but available from the author (Great bloke, you'd get on well). http://seanhellman.com/product/shavehorse_book/
Mad Hamish
2020-10-12 16:34:52 +0000 UTCArchived plans are on Rex’s discourse page. The plan bundle will be available when the video posts on YouTube. Link is below https://rexkrueger.discourse.group/c/plans-archive/11
James Crandall
2020-10-12 14:43:21 +0000 UTCPersonally I find the English version better to work with than the European or 'Dumbhead' I find it more versatile (and easier to build) I really look forward to seeing your take on it.
Mad Hamish
2020-10-12 08:47:48 +0000 UTCHi Rex, I'm pretty new as a Patron here on your site and I'm a little confused. First, I can't find any links to the Journeyman's Plan Bundle nor the Poorman;'s Turning Saw "Below in the description". (there aren't any links in the letter introducing this video either). I did find the plan for the saw in your store listed at no cost but, nothing about the 'bundle;. Also, how do I order any of your other plans 'at no cost'? Any plans I order all come with a cost attached. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Please let me know.
Dennis Holtby
2020-10-12 00:54:58 +0000 UTCI will make one for sure and i think it will be English. Looks easier to build and the design just speaks to me.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 23:23:30 +0000 UTCThat's very interesting and had not occurred to me. I was just trying to find a good joint that was also approachable.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 23:21:27 +0000 UTCGood advice. I am tall.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 23:20:42 +0000 UTCI hope I get to see it!
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 23:20:15 +0000 UTCGreat video as always Rex going to start on this one soon
Kevin Esses
2020-10-11 20:48:03 +0000 UTCProbably find that historically each had their advantages & proponents and like many other old tools probably regional/national variants. On a related topic, ever thought about making a shave horse, either the European or English style? (I don't separate Europe from England because of current political upheavals but because they're the two names for the different types I know)
Mad Hamish
2020-10-11 19:05:48 +0000 UTCRex, you appear to be a tall guy. When you make your pole lathe make sure the rocker arm is high enough so you won't crack your noggin.
Fred Gosbee
2020-10-11 16:56:31 +0000 UTCBy the way a bridle joint instead of mortise and tennon is still used and preferred in northern europe: not only bridle joint is simpler to do but it reduces the risk of twisting at the arms. My experience tells that mortise and tennon is more prone to introduce some twisting at the arms and twisting means always inaccuracy.
carlo pieracci
2020-10-11 15:14:20 +0000 UTCi did the same on my frame saws ( a bow saw is indeed a frame saw for small work) . The old time design included two arms lighter at the tops and thicker near the blade: its a better feeling for every woodworker.
carlo pieracci
2020-10-11 15:11:42 +0000 UTCGood point Nic, but who knows, taking down a tree with a chisel might be therapeutic.😄 thanks
Will Bonner
2020-10-11 15:05:35 +0000 UTCThat makes complete sense. Maybe I should have grabbed Pappy's turning saw instead. of the coping. But in. my defense I thought it was a bow saw for firewood.
Will Bonner
2020-10-11 15:01:19 +0000 UTCHaha, funny thing is i don't actually have any of them
The Poor Man
2020-10-11 12:57:17 +0000 UTCI feel the same way about all of you. Really.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:52:54 +0000 UTCYou could absolutely do that, but the blade is a bit wide for fine curves.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:52:34 +0000 UTCNic it totally right, but the longer throw also makes for a MUCH smoother cut and that big wood frame adds mass and inertia to the cut. Finally, this design will tension the blade a LOT more than a standard coping saw. The difference is real.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:51:30 +0000 UTCI do my best. Thank you!
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:50:06 +0000 UTCThe blades are SO good. I love them.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:49:54 +0000 UTCYou're totally right!
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:48:28 +0000 UTCGlad you enjoyed it!
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:48:14 +0000 UTCThen I suggest you hack up a bandsaw blade! Oh and I'm going to poly the stretcher to make that soft fir more durable.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:48:05 +0000 UTCEric, they're all for you, so they might as well have your name. ;)
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:47:19 +0000 UTCGlad to finally deliver!
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:46:41 +0000 UTCI bet he'll love it!
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:46:31 +0000 UTCNope. Need. Really.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:46:13 +0000 UTCI think it will work great. This thing eats pine for lunch!
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:45:58 +0000 UTCOnly because I have such a great community behind me!
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:45:32 +0000 UTCFor sure. I mitigated that weight with wood choice and shaping, but the mortise and tenon version is a bit better. (Not much.)
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:45:08 +0000 UTCYou don't need much space to do this. You can make a short version of the Low Roman Bench and get going.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:43:51 +0000 UTCYes, please come join the discussion!
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:43:19 +0000 UTCYou really might!
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:42:37 +0000 UTCI enjoy it, too!
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:42:28 +0000 UTCIt really builds skills and creativity.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:42:20 +0000 UTCWell, I did build a complete electric lathe last summer. There's a whole video series. That might keep you busy for a bit.
Rex Krueger
2020-10-11 12:42:03 +0000 UTCThank you Rex for another tool video. Love them! I have to start getting to your videos earlier in the day. A lot of good comments above. I also am looking forward to seeing the pole lathe build. Take care, stay well and keep doing what you do. Life would be boring without you.
Matt Evans-Koch
2020-10-11 03:18:26 +0000 UTCQuestion: would not a hacksaw blade work? Refile the edge for a 24tpi rip?
William Allen
2020-10-10 23:04:03 +0000 UTCI'd subscribe to that.
Michael Bennett
2020-10-10 21:10:53 +0000 UTCHey Will! There are a few advantages, mostly size. A coping saw works well for small work, but the extra blade length of the turning saw will be far me efficient for larger pieces. If you're cutting down a tree, a chisel would do it, but wouldn't you rather have a chainsaw? The turning saw is basically a hand powered bandsaw in a lot of ways and it can open a lot of possibilities for a small footprint for hand tool only folks. Plus, it's fun whether you work hybrid or hand only!!
Nic Beurskens
2020-10-10 21:05:46 +0000 UTCDavid, we would love to have you on the forum with us! Come introduce yourself and jump into the fray! There is bound to be a ton of excitement there about the turning saw, and we can all build ours together!
Nic Beurskens
2020-10-10 20:59:05 +0000 UTCI'm not knocking the saw! But is there a reason other than being hand made, what's the advantage over my old coping saw?
Will Bonner
2020-10-10 20:30:42 +0000 UTCas always, thanks, and you rock buddy!!
Jared Leff
2020-10-10 19:40:07 +0000 UTCI made a bow saw in junior high wood shop, and I was so proud of that thing. Thirty years later, I just ordered the blades you linked and I'm looking forward to making my upgraded model!
Damian Scisci
2020-10-10 17:10:42 +0000 UTC(at 4:40) I know it's not *exactly* WWFH but that handle would be perfect for chucking in a drill press for a bit of lathe-ish sanding.
Matthew Leigh
2020-10-10 16:09:33 +0000 UTCAnother awesome video, thanks for sharing.
The Deaf Maker
2020-10-10 15:50:45 +0000 UTCBLO and paste wax, dude! BLO and paste wax! Awesome build, I think I'll give it a shot but I'll hqve to find the blade another way. Shipping to Greece is about 60 bucks :(
Ramin Chalili
2020-10-10 15:39:20 +0000 UTCYou know even though I find this cool I do wish people would stop naming tools after me. JK, I totally get it make it quick, cheap an easy. I think im going tonhave to create a playlist on my YouTube called The Poor Man's tools, and collect every video out there titled "the poor man's whatever tool".
The Poor Man
2020-10-10 14:58:06 +0000 UTCAwesome build. Love my bow saw.
William Allen
2020-10-10 14:41:37 +0000 UTCI've been waiting for this one ever since you mentioned a few months ago it was coming!
Mike M
2020-10-10 14:31:39 +0000 UTCGreat saw! I've been wanting one for some time now. And excellent idea to use *that* joint for the spreader! :-) I've been trying to decide what to make for my grandson for Christmas, and I think this may be it! Thanks for the pointer to the blades as well!
Howard Tuckey
2020-10-10 13:48:02 +0000 UTCHmmmm, need vs. want... need vs. want... Ok I WANT one of these (sometimes want wins over need, you know what I'm talking about, don't you?)!
Stephen Krajewski
2020-10-10 13:43:49 +0000 UTCAwesome video Rex and thank you. I have been looking forward to this since you mentioned it in your Uri build. I am in the middle of making a pine kitchen hutch and will be using this to cut the curves for the case sides. Thanks
James Crandall
2020-10-10 13:43:24 +0000 UTCI’ve been waiting for you to do this build since your collaborative work with Uri Tuchman.! I’m looking forward to making one of these. Thanks again, Rex, for another great video. The hits just keep on coming!
Sean O'Neill
2020-10-10 13:22:51 +0000 UTCOH! Great! Thank you!
david
2020-10-10 13:11:48 +0000 UTCDavid: you should have access to Rex’s discourse page. There you can find all of his plans plus discussions with other patrons. https://rexkrueger.discourse.group
James Crandall
2020-10-10 13:09:02 +0000 UTCAmongst the tools left by my step father is a very old turning saw (which I can't lay my hands on today) The difference is that the stretcher has tenons on and the arms had a mortice. The mortice is loose to allow adjustment is the string/blade alignment but tight enough t'other way to prevent a sideways movement. (Hope that makes sense) Advantage being it ends up narrower and a lot lighter.
Mad Hamish
2020-10-10 13:05:55 +0000 UTCI understand that - but where are they released? Where can I get acces to older plans? Do you know?
david
2020-10-10 13:01:59 +0000 UTCHe speaks in the present tense, but he'll release them when the video is uploaded on YouTube. If I do not err, that'll be on thursday.
Tsani Rósenov Sábev
2020-10-10 12:59:54 +0000 UTCWow that's a pretty saw. I can't wait for when I have space to start trying to make things.
Andrew Parsons
2020-10-10 12:50:05 +0000 UTCThats a really nice build and a great video. Thank you! I really want to check thet plan-bundle, and as you mention ind the end of the video, they are free for me as a petreon, right? But I can't figure out how? I've been over my email- and notification-settings and I've been through the spam-filter. Im sorry to be the boring one in the discussion-forum - but how do I get my hands on those plans? Thanks again for making great content!
david
2020-10-10 12:43:57 +0000 UTCNicely done...I guess I NEED one of these now :)
Kevin S Thomas
2020-10-10 12:37:15 +0000 UTCWelcome back! It's good to see you back in your element.
Bill Brisky
2020-10-10 12:35:17 +0000 UTCYeah for making stuff from random junk!
Robert A Carbo
2020-10-10 12:18:30 +0000 UTCWhere it's the reality remote!? I want to fast-forward to see the lathe you've built! :O
Jeremy Denslinger
2020-10-10 11:17:22 +0000 UTC
