God (Up Late)

I feel Jordan is pretty close to some "red pills" already. I feel like "schizo pills" would be more entertaining.

Alexander Freeman

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Alexander Freeman

I'm interested to know how we can get in touch to "red pill" Jordies

Timmy Taylor

For Ali's professor's card hand example, John Lennox would answer with the question 'but who dealt the hand?' Science is only about the observable universe, what about outside of that? Daniel Dennet writes about free will in a universe without the existence of God, where as, CS Lewis writes about humans having an implanted compas of morals and ethics (once an Atheist, then writes 'Mere Christianity') Richard dawkins writes the 'God Delusion' and David Berlinski writes the 'devils delusion'. Athiests can't agree Whats more important is the ethic of love, and life. That's why we need to drink and be happy. As the french always say. Buy craft, and support the local economy. Brix Rum Distillery in Sydney offers elixirs to help celebrate life and love

Justin Case

I saw this on a meme (lol) that kinda summarized what i think (which y'all talked about a one point) "Everybody worships something, the question is what? Without worshiping a higher power, man devolves to worshiping his own ego, money, power, & status. These false idols are what end up dividing people and actually destroying the world." I think for me I found that "religion" helps me stay humble & more at peace. To be fair, that's a generic answer. I say "religion" in quotation marks cause for Christianity for example at no point did God or Jesus say "okay, we're calling this region 'Christianity'." The closest thing to a title of faith given in the bible to believers is when Jesus says "Follow me" (Matt. 4:19). So to me i agree, i don't like religion either and i find that the word "religion" holds more harm & doesn't help the Atheist, Agnostics, or the believer of a higher power. But all God wants is a relationship with us. (in the OT with the Exodus of the Israelite's, and the NT with Jesus only wanting to be with the people) . I reckon life is a lot more simpler when you believe in a higher power like God speaking & it became. You can be like, "Yeap cool," Then be on your way. Gives you more time in life to focus on the important things on this earth with the little time we got.

ED What

Typical dawkins talking point, read the devils delusion. Written by an atheist, debunks the point you are trying to make

Justin Case

Also, as a member of a generation predominantly without participation in traditional spirituality, how we each individually seek to find meaning. It's something I look forward to being 70 years old and looking back on the effects of.

Dr VVankenstein

Sometimes our experience of the world go beyond the language we know. Lately, I've been appreciating the beauty of the world a bit more, but beyond that, giving the way I feel about it words, a language beyond the inexplicable wonder. It's fun 😃

Dr VVankenstein

Personally I subscribe to the idea of "optimistic nihilism", where I understand that everything will eventually die and decay, but that makes the time that we get all the more precious and it's important that we make it count. But also, I think it's just a tendency for humans to inherently believe in a higher power. For some people the mere concept of the universe at large is too complicated to understand, so it's easier to believe in some kind of a "Creator" instead of the science behind nature. The universe in of itself is still dynamic, full of awe and majesty, just on timescales too great for us to even comprehend.

Life is pretty unimpressive, I find it more fascinating that protons and electrons have equal and opposite charges. It's like God designed subatomic particles to be perfect jigsaw pieces. In my opinion this is all a thought experiment manifesting itself, anything that is possible can (and will) happen, and I'm guessing that's just a fundamental reality of nature.

Wagon Lord