Poll: Cancer Immunity Reward Trait [ENDED]

on\off switch makes everybody happy

Kirstie

yes! i like the idea! make a cheat for those who does not want their sims to get cancer

I think this is a horrible idea. Im also against the idea of having STD's introduced to WW. Yes the Sims is a life simulation game, and there are some elements of reality that I do like. But it is also escapism from things like this.

Plumpkin Pumpkin

I think no? because cancer is a horrible disease I lost one of my cousins to cancer, And i wish cancer immunity was possible and it would be a god send if it was, but it's not, so if you want to keep this like real life in the sims 4 then NO, That is how I feel sorry.

RobertAtNyte

I kinda like the idea....I think personally teenagers and young adults would have more of a tolerance to carcinogens compared to children and the elderly. Could make it even more realistic by allowing children to get cancer to from second hand smoke if we are talking realism. I am sure if mermaids really existed there would be some kind of pollutant to their environment in the sea but if they are out and about with human legs on dry land then yes they would be susceptible to all kinds of human diseases. So that is plausible mermaids getting cancer in game. But what isn't plausible is Immortal beings like vampires getting cancer because..."hello, they are dead".... lol Maybe they can get sick from drinking from sims with cancer but realistically they wouldn't die, actually they probably wouldn't touch a sick person, idk, never met a real vampire to ask ;) But young children and the elderly should definitely be at risk. My Grandmother died from throat cancer 25 years ago and she had never touched a cigarette in her life. My other Gran died 7 years ago from Lung cancer and never touched a cig in her life either. When they were younger they were both around people that smoked, in their careers same problem, surprise surprise. So if this is going to be realistic in our game then go the whole hog and include children to. Just saying...but yeah, immunity reward should be included seeing as I worked with patients that were smokers and were in their 90's but only thing wrong with them was they were just very old and in care home, no health problems what so ever, and yet I have had friends who are young and smoke end up with cancer....just goes to show...I am a smoker to, 42 years old but no health problems from smoking....touch wood.~Shrugs~

Risiera

Honestly part of me is saying if you don't want your Sims to due of cancer then don't have them smoke cigarettes 🤷🏽‍♀️ I know people want a choice but that's the choice that's it that's all. The other part of me is saying the same damn thing 🤦🏽‍♀️

Duwhatgsimsdu

Personally, Sims is a game where reality can be kinda stretched. There are traits which mean your sims don't need to eat or sleep, which is wholly unrealistic. Introducing the trait would give that option for people who want it, but it is an Opt In thing, so it's only if you want it.

Jamjars

I like opting for people to have the choice. Some people just wanna smoke with no risks and I support those people and their wants.

Mizu

I like the element of surprise personally. I had 2 sims OD, one lived (begged the reaper- in my head it was narcan) the other died. I can understand how some don't like the reality in there game, especially when some play to escape it. I'm just a bit morbid. I wish there were more sickness in the game, and not just ones that would kill them. So, however you choose is fine with me, just please leave it an option to have if wanted.

suzysim

The result of the poll so far seems pretty clear, so immunity reward traits and cheats will be implemented

Basemental

Drinking will definitely get some added consequences. It's been on the to-do list for some time

Basemental

I think the idea of having the immunity, or even a cheat, or something to stop it from happening all together is good... Some people will want it, and others will not. But I do think implementing a choice to make them immune would be good, as it gives those who want the realism what they like, and don't have to use the feature to give their sim immunity, and those who don't want it to be quite that realistic the ability to not have it at all. I do agree that there needs to be repercussions, I've lost family to cancer, and lung cancer for two of them. I myself am a smoker - though I am attempting to quit. But.... I'd like to choose whether my sim/s are immune or not... as - I'm not trying to be a snowflake at all - it'd just hit too close to home for me... ^^;;;; But yeah... it's your mod, and you do as you feel is best. Just putting in my two cents. :)

I agree with your POV. But then again drinking isn't the best either so then there should be (a chance for) consequences for that too. I think AIDS/HIV is sort of Turbo's mod, but diseases related to the content you are providing should go in there. Be it with or without an option for probability.

timpiej

Not really what the mod should focus on. I've not added this to start adding a bunch of deadly diseases, but rather to follow along the line of the other drugs implemented. Lung cancer is incidentally what tends to kill tobacco users.

Basemental

I'd rather there be a set of traits to randomly give sims cancer, whether they smoke or not, AND randomly give them other real life diseases like AIDS/HIV.

BlackPiano

Sure. Quite a specific request, but certainly doable

Basemental

So I know you said Vamps will get immunity in the next update, but would it be possible to have sort of reward trait where they can? I'm playing a world where the rules are that vamps can't get sick, unless they feed on someone who is, then they get whatever disease the person they fed on has. I'd love to be able to include the cancer in this. Thanks!

Alicia Herrington

Hey 👋🏻 Yeah, vamps will get immunity in the next update. I like the suggestion regarding mermaids as well. Gil cancer? 🤪

Basemental

Hey Base! I voted yes****** BUTTTTT I think only vampires should be immune (I mean they are magic zombies, dead things can't get cancer) and mermaids should have an extra high risk of lung cancer given how efficient their lungs are (and how their lore is tied into the environment).

Nisa K.

It’s not a static thing in here either, as with all the other parts of the mod. So it’s very likely you can have a sim that smokes like a chimney without ever getting cancer and eventually just dying from old age. And you may have one that gets cancer early on

Basemental

I say yes because not everyone get's lung cancer even if they smoke for 30+years it wouldn't be realistic for every sim to get cancer form smoking, we should be able to pick and choose who gets it for game/story play purposes, Had one Grandparent who smoked everyday since they were 15 and never got cancer, had another Grandparent who never smoked at all and died of lung cancer 9 years ago.... please give us the option to pick and choose. thank you <3

I say no. I like my game being more realistic.

Lisa Jones

I love your ideas and it would certainly add some drama in my game ;) not like I can’t revive my sims... but I think to make everyone happy a reward is the best possible solution

Like others have pointed out; We have rewards for no Needs depletion and even age reversal potions in said reward store. Outside the reward store, you have ways to make your sim immortal and even revive dead sims. This is a game, not real life, obviously. We're here to have fun, let's not get too serious here.

I agree, I want to be able to keep my favourite Sims! Smoking is taking a risk to your health and increases your chance of getting lung cancer. I think it’s responsible to point it out ! The smoking animations are amazing. I always feel I am acting like a Sims 'God' anyway, deciding every move the make. So maybe I can be a kind sims 'God', now and then!

~Marishafly~

I agree. Potential kidney problems from long term alcoholism should definitely be a thing

Basemental

If you aren't stoked about the Tobacco stuff, it's just a matter of not using it. Unless you purchase cigarettes, and make your Sims use them, or assign smokers you won't see it present in your game at all.

Basemental

Definitely not going to happen. Ignoring the harms of harmful substances is not at all what this mod has been or will be about

Basemental

Yeah people want it that way because this is game, not real life. Game where you can do shit what you cant do in real life etc.

Maybe just a simple cheat command to cure a sim of cancer so we don't risk losing our favourite sims? Other than that I totally get your ethos regarding the harmful effects of these substances.

Stephen Blake

I think also, that many existing reward traits in game are a bit boring, so it is always a good idea to add new ones, so it's meaningful to collect points. Will that immunity cure a already started sickness too, or does that need to be it's own reward?

SweetLilja

Since things are getting more realistic you should make it possible to have kidney problems from drinking so much AND you should have hemp doggy treats or food items

Just make sure no one gets sick from THC.. its harmless unless maybe it makes you susceptible to police beatings

LordPapp

I think the reward trait is a excellent idea. This way those apposed can choose to get the trait.

Tiffany

Agree!! We like the mod because it came from your mind.

Yea we gave rewards for most things even aging so it’s appropriate.

ooh interesting addition. if you can add a long term sickness I think there are some affects that can work in a similar way. like long term affects of doing shrooms, coke, drinking, etc. both good and bad.

Red Pills

I think it would be a great add on. After all it is what could happen in real life.

Cat mom

Not too crazy about the cancer add on. Maybe make it a separate package that we can choose to install or not?

Lina Armstrong

ugh,I love your mods but IDK if this is getting dark,weird or awkward!! could Tobacco just be an Optional add on to the game,like "BMG"?!

Sim_Baebyy

I like the idea of a trait to be immune and second hand having a chance of making others get cancer. Can I also suggest the idea of weed helping to relieve or potentially cure cancer as an alternative to chemo?

Inky

I say no. If people don't want it, they can cheat and remove the moodlet using UI Cheat or MCCC. I agree 100% with why you added it.

CJ

I personally think having the ability to be immune from lung cancer would make this more realistic because certain people are more susceptible to cancer than others, even though tobacco use increases cancer risk across the board. I had two people in my family that were really heavy smokers. One got cancer, the other didn’t. I don’t think this glorifies it, but do agree it should be very expensive

I hope can add the cheat to turn off for npc too? Or maybe easier is just an option to turn off cancer all together

ah261

I don't see the problem with having it as an option. Those who want the immunity can work to get it, those who don't can just not bother.

I say yes if it’s not too much effort. I like realism with my sims but I think some people like ultimate control over their sim lives so someone getting cancer and then failing chemo may upset the goals of how they want to play.

Kemi Lynn

Good on you for surviving that shit! And I appreciate hearing support for the implementation of this feature from someone who has dealt with the actual harsh realities of this disease first hand. Adding in a low percentage chance from second hand smoke is a sound idea and something I might explore.

Basemental

I don't see the point in preventing others from playing how they want. It doesn't affect me in the least because it's optional.

janyses

Yes

Basemental

I'm one of those who like my mods to be realistic and not sugarcoat, but I still voted yes, because a reward trait is optional and each player can decide if they want to use it or not.

janyses

I am a cancer survivor, being born with a rare chromosome that carries cancer, the realism of the consequences is a good idea. With that said, there could be a chance that a sim gets cancer from second hand smoke as well.

LaDonna Bugg

I agree with what you said in your post

WarriorPrincess

Wait, tho, can my sim still do edibles while doing chemo?

Katchioga Bediako

I think that there should be an option to turn cancer off for those who don’t like it

Jasmine Danielle

Authenticity is why I downloaded this mod. The truth is ugly. But it's the ugliness makes it more interesting. That being said this game was made to tell stories and everyone's story and opinion is different. I still voted no but I understand both sides of the argument.

ReinBlack

I think your logic behind portraying real consequences is sound, and the reason I love this mod. That said, I also think if you don’t make immunity an option, somebody else will probably mod it in, and it’s probably easier for everyone to have it included from the start. So I voted yes, but I also love that you didn’t think its inclusion should be obvious. Keep up the great work!

TheRecognitionScene

Non smokers will indeed react to the smell of nearby smokers. They won’t lose their teeth, though.

Basemental

Can smokers lose teeth and have bad breath?

Mz. C_Divine YouTuber

No need to be so sensitive, it’s just a game. I love this idea. I’m sure there will eventually be an option to bypass your sim or turn it off.

All good points, I think maybe its a good idea to have to option. Those who may be working on particular story line may want to use it and for those that do not want to use it can still play without it.

Spazin1015

How about not letting your sim not smoke, bam no risk.

Sunset

Maybe add a third option to the poll - "don't care/let Basemental decide" ? I personally don't care either way as I'm not (yet) having my Sims smoke anything but the reefer... would the overriding "Immortal" flag prevent cancer from actually killing the Sim? (Although I guess that stops the aging process as well, so might be too big of a "cure hammer"...)

I would never use it but it's the sims and I think taking it completely out of the control of the player doesn't really fit the spirt of how many like to play.

Nickolok

I agree, no need for it. I get it for supernatural purposes but keeping the game authentic as possible is my key.

Me, realizing I should read the documentation that comes with the updates because I had no idea this existed. 🙄

Melissa Jeffrey

Wow, very cool I like it because it makes sense.

sharon rosen

Already in there, although it doesn't specifically says "remission". If you are at stage 2 and have a successful chemo session, it goes into remission and gets you to stage 1 instead of completely curing it.

Basemental

What about having the cancer go into remition?

sharon rosen

You might still get that right now, meaning you may have a Sim that smokes like a chimney from Teen through Elder and never gets cancer, it's not a static thing, but rather a game of percentage chances.

Basemental

Yes, thanks for the input. Vampires should definitely be immune whichever way this poll turns out

Basemental

Basically what the chemotherapy is

Basemental

I think the vampire sims should be automatically be immune as they are you know....undead. Everyone else though yes. Just imo.😶

Jacqueline Vatore

How about making a very pricey medecine to cure cancer that MIGHT potentially not work? I don't know how feasible it is for you to do so, but it might be an alternative.

love the idea of adding cheats for it instead, maybe? or both?

SamichMachine

i say leave it in for those who may have personally had experiences with cancer that are not so nice. those who want it can play with it, and those who dont want it in game don't have to interact w/ it.

SamichMachine

And a way to remove/cheat cancer/win battle with cancer. Just for gameplay purposes.

Another approach might be to add a “reduced cancer likelihood” trait if you don’t want to eliminate the risk completely. You do get those freaks who can smoke until they’re 100 out there. I would also agree with making vampires immune.

Jen

The only reason I'd want it is for my supernatural sims, like my vampires wouldn't really get cancer, I also have the grim reaper in a family who really shouldn't be able to get it