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Discussion Time: Juice Enthusiast/Alcoholic

Hey guys.

While I am working on a lot of new stuff for the mod, I just thought I'd ask for your input on something I can't seem to decide on.

As you all probably know (at least those of you that owns the Get Famous expansion pack), I changed the "Juice Enthusiast" String Tables to "Alcoholic".

Would you rather that I put those additional string tables into the Optional Drink Names package? (I am not gonna make yet another separate optional package for this, as I don't want to overcomplicate things, so that is not even a question).

So it's really a matter of; "Yes, that is a good idea" or "No, leave it as it is". Would love to hear some good pros and cons type arguments for either solution as well! 

Discussion Time: Juice Enthusiast/Alcoholic

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Should Do More Pills, like Pain Killers ect. Tings like Crack, LSD, Acid, Meth with the teeth falling out.

Ah ok, thanks :) Can't seem to get his mod to work though, maybe it's not updated.. I have all the "stuff" but my sims just can't use them :P edit: nvm, when bought from the dispenser it works :D

Freyya_

Necrodog has a smoking mod. You can get it at the Sims4Studio forum. The juice enthusiast bit is a Fame quirk from the Get Famous expansion.

Basemental

I didn't notice any "juice enthusiast", I've only seen the alcoholiv trait, but maybe you're not talking about traits? Something I miss in your mod is regular smoking nicotine and packs of cigarettes, maybe nicotine patches and stuff like that :P

Freyya_

I have more or less decided to go for a middle ground here. Following Sjofn's reasoning that the quirk isn't as brutal as the actual alcoholic debuff from the mod (and the fact that alcoholism is already present in the mod), and the fact that with this mod bar drinks are in fact alcoholic drinks and not juice, I am changing the String Tables to Alcohol Enthusiast instead of Alcoholic.

Basemental

I’d prefer optional. Similar to Sjofn’s rationale actually. The quirk is lighter than your mod’s version of alcoholism so i’d prefer them to be distinguished. Also I am apart of the crew who would like bubble blower options back!

Kemi Lynn

I'd like it to be optional, partly because alcoholic feels redundant with the actual alcoholism your mod provides. The quirk isn't as ... brutal as alcoholism can be, so I vastly prefer the softer name for the quirk, to reflect that while a Sim with that quirk might be on their way to a problem, they're not there *yet*. (Besides, more options are always good!)

I am ok with this :)

I like the game as real as possible please continue to do so.. This juice stuff is hokey crapola

I would love to have more options for this.

I personally don't use the alternate drink names. But I'm fine with the alcoholic vs juice enthusiast issue. Chalk it up under author's preference.

SCarverOrne

The juice bar can keep juice but with names geared for personality such as energy drinks, snobbish drinks such as mimosa or Shirley Temple along with kiddie cocktail or mocktail. I do want to say the be reward traits are great. Those who drink the lesser alcohol drinks can get a "slightly buzzed" motif. It might make a workout more fun for those who are alcoholics.

Dianne Duchow

I vote 'leave it be'. Your mod caters to an adult audience as it as, so for the sake of consistency at least. Those are my two cents.

I personally prefer to preserve the 'funny' aspects of my Sim game as well as possible. In that regard I'd prefer the string to stay 'juice enthusiast'.

Doodleroo

i have noticed that i cant get rid of her alcoholic quirk at all i have tried everything but it wont go away anybody else having this issue?

Yolanda Zanie

The thing is, this all depends on how those creators set up the tuning for their object. If someone creates a juice and sets the drink interaction to “bar drinks” instead of “non bar drinks” (which is the non alcoholic version) I can’t do anything about that. If they use the correct drink interaction, though, it will automatically work.

Basemental

I'd like to say yes, maybe see if you could add the wine and other alcohol from Leniad's Cupboard as the actual drinks, (they have custom harvestables and a distillery too)? A lot of Simmers have alcohol cc out. Not sure if that would be too difficult though. But I'd like to be able to have my juice - especially the cc juices and juice maker I've downloaded as actual juice.

Veronica Trudeau

Yes that would help differentiate who's an alkie and who is non-alkie lol!

Sportsfoodie4

Yes

Kree

I love the idea of a juice/wine enthusiast. I’d love to make my own sims after the movie, Sideways. “I’m not drinking Merlot!!!!” Lol

TRUTH_SAYER

yes, that's a good idea 😊😊

Makes sense! Hard to tune something for the likes of every particular person. While not my preference, I do understand what you are saying. Thanks for explaining.

K

I think my main issue with putting these strings in the Optional Real Drink Names package is what JamJars mentioned. I have already made the drinks alcoholic drinks with drunk effects, I am not planning on removing that by any means or put that into a separate package. Due to the nature of those drinks getting you drunk it (in my mind at least) sounds silly calling someone who drinks a lot of alcoholic drinks a juice enthusiast. That coupled with the fact that some people share that opinion but don't want the Real Drink Names package would put those people in a spot of having to choose instead... Therefore I guess I am ultimately leaning towards keeping this as it is. (Unless someone comes with an incredibly compelling argument I haven't thought of yet). I am still gonna do a more optional thing out of the bubble blower, though, as that is honestly way more important in terms of getting the required buffs needed for career promotions and whatnot.

Basemental

I'm so glad that you re-visited this issue! Hello. :) Thank you for asking us. I personally would enjoy having it optional. I think one of the fun things about the sims is the language they use, even when it is something naughty. E.g. Woohoo being sex. Juice for Alcohol. I do understand a lot of people prefer the real words and therefore think optional would suit both parties best. If you do not mind switching the strings around, that is.

K

no leave it as it is, love this mod!

Ottena Rowe

I say it's a good idea to put it into the optional. As someone mentioned before, there can be Health nut Juice Enthusiasts.

CJ

The juice's effects are already renamed to Alcohol within the rest of the mod, so imo it should stick in the main package

Jamjars

I think the work you've done on the bubble blower is outstanding. I like the idea of the choice of juice/alcohol as the juice will be more suited for the athletic work out. p.s. can you do more cannabis-related objects like menu signs?

Bozwell X Crow

Actually the bubble blower is also something that I am aiming to make more of an optional thing (without adding an optional extra package for it) - As a lot of people want that whimsical bubble blower in their game instead of the hookah. Not to mention you actually need the bubble blower buffs to advance in certain careers and stuff

Basemental

No, leave it as is. Stays consistent with how other items are treated i.e. bubble blower strings.

Blarean50

That's an amazing idea 😊

Alisha Campbell


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