Basemental Drugs v1.07.2

I am sure I can make the vampires immune to it. But, I won't make the OD chance a toggle on off thing. To avoid overdosing, simply stop snorting after the 2nd line and wait until the comedown phase, then you can do more drugs. If your Sim is gonna do 3 or more consecutive lines of coke or speed without waiting for the drug to start wearing off, the chance of a fatal or non-fatal OD will be present

Basemental

Can we disable the chance of death from overdose? If not this would be a very welcomed option. Also Vampires should be immune to this for obvious reasons. Another thing ide like to see is if i sell drugs to an NPC that they will autonomously do drugs (this would happen automatically if the drugs actually end up in their inventory wouldnt it?)

Worsin

Hey. I think the Hate Children trait is something that comes with TS4 actually, but I have slowly started to work with Turbodriver (the creator of WW) to make the 2 mods work in conjunction to one another, so I reckon it would be doable for us to turn off the forced condom use from that trait if the Sim in question is rolling on MDMA. Nice suggestion, by the way! Thanks.

Basemental

Not sure were to post this but I wanted to ask - Are drugs supposed to remove traits/inhibitions? For example, WhickedWhims has a 'Hate children' trait for females that force male actors to use condoms. It would be interesting if using MDMA would override that trait while under influence for example.

Blue Frog

Have you tried taking everything except Basemental Drugs out of your Mods folder and place it in a temp folder, start up a new game to see if you still get the lastexception.txt ? If you are not getting the lastexception then, the conflict or lastexception is caused by another outdated or otherwise faulty mod or CC (doesn't have to be a mod at all, but this can also apply to furniture or clothing or whatnot).

Basemental

I keep getting a lastexception file

TonTada

I am sure it is doable somehow. I will look into it. Thanks for the suggestion

Basemental

Do you think it is possible to flag a certain sim as a drug dealer so it will be always possible to buy drugs from him? I like the social Event but sometimes I'd really love to have the possibility to invite my drug dealer to a Party and then buy drugs from him.

Eksclusiv

Not working is a bit vague. Considering it is indeed working with everyone else that has been trying it, can you elaborate on what isn't working exactly?

Basemental

It will be implemented for sure :)

Basemental

Hey, yea the addiction and od is not working it could because other mods I have

Hopefull one day we can also sell cocaine and other hard drugs like a real dealer.

Joe Blow

Thanks soooo much for all your hard work, seriously you're amazing I will give it a go today and cross fingers its all good, also hehehe thanks for changing the hysterical uncontrollable giggles!!

Hi Christina. The prices hasn't changed per se. The amount in the ziplock bags have changed though. Previously it was more random, so you could end up with any number between 2 and 6 lines from one bag, whereas now you are guaranteed to get at least 4, very likely to get 5 and if you are lucky you will get 6. Taking that into consideration, you now get more speed or coke for less cash. I am going to add even more drugs contained in the larger bags though, and also up the prices on those items accordingly.

Basemental

Seeing that it is a percentage chance, that obviously might happen. And 10 lines of coke over the course of several hours doesn't necessarily mean certain death for all individuals either :)

Basemental

Hey. It is supposed to go away after the actual high-phase of the speed kicks in, not the coming up phase. Does it not do that, now?

Basemental

has the prices change?

Ok seems to be an issue with the coming down speed. When you take more speed after getting this, it dosnt seem to go away. Either way great update, but still looking forward to the blunt/joint rolling!

Never mind the last dumb question I should have read the top first lol

Delores Dodds

I wanted to know though if I could put the club trait back in safely when you said pull all old out I did I saved it though

Delores Dodds

I. Killed my SIM of with 3 lines of coke first try lol no problem

Delores Dodds

I love the new update but my Sim did 10 lines of coke and didn't die LMFAOOO

Tiffany Feurtado

Thanks so much. Made my day :)

Basemental

Thanks for the feedback on this. I will look into it. I had to alter the autonomy a bit to favour an uncomfortable mood, so an addicted Sim will be more likely to do more drugs autonomously, but I will finetune this further.

Basemental

Great Job! However, I've been experiencing a Little bit of Trouble with autonomous behavior. With the new update literally nobody wanted to take Speed nor Coca during my Party. With the last update it was perfect, now every sim ignores drugs.

Eksclusiv

You're awesome babe! Can't wait to test this out!

Amazing thank you!

poisonivy

Yeah I know. But, alright. I will look at the sink tuning for the average coke tonight. Sounds plausible that I might have left something out from it, as I went through the regular object tuning for average coke now and it looks as if it should be tuned properly. Either way, get a good nights sleep and thanks once again :)

Basemental

Hadn't tried non-sinks, but it does seem to be different on surfaces (generated a different moodlet profile). Took a while to generate addiction and I didn't do a clean test (of only average coke - sorry got impatient as I've got to head to bed) but it seemed pretty clear average coke from the surface was different from the sink. It's a lot harder to test the surface with a ton of iterations as there's a lot more work to do cocaine from a surface vs. a sink (and Sims 4 inventory management has got to be the worst UX in the Sims 4).

Lee

Really appreciate you testing it out so thoroughly. Does the average cocaine "glitch" occur only from sinks or when you try taking it from a surface as well? And on a slightly related note, does this also happen with the low quality speed?

Basemental

It's the +5 moodlet from average coke (Coked Up +5 - I've always gotten plus 5 out of average coke in the first go, but it's possible that is random as I have very few trials of base state to coke +1). From that moodlet average coke produces only a reup of the +5 moodlet in duration (pushing it back to 2 hours). If you're in that +5 moodlet and take High quality coke it kicks you to a different moodlet, from there you can go a lot of different ways taking average coke, but if you hit the +5 moodlet again you'll be there forever taking average coke. Tested on a new save - with all sinks in a room and otherwise only cocaine. 75 consecutive trials of average coke produced only 2 hour +5 moodlets (no OD and no addiction), then 1 high grade coke produced a higher grade moodlet (+10 I believe). I switched back to average coke, but after two iterations of aveage coke, I hit +5 again, and from there nothing seemed to change. I took another high grade line and this kicked my to +12, and I again switched back to average coke and received addiction two lines later with (at +8 confident). Two more lines later he OD'ed and died (I've seen 5 OD events and had 1 death so that seems to be pretty solid to me - also considering he'd done ~81 lines of cocaine in about 2 hours there's no way he'd be alive in real life).

Lee

Oops, my bad! I actually forgot to include the clubber trait package in the zip file. I added it now, so download the file titled (beta2) instead for it to be put back in.

Basemental

Sweet I will try it out tomorrow- thanks for all your hard work on making this mod awesome and realistic

Ottena Rowe

Sounds like something is off here, then. I will definitely sort it out. And thanks a bunch for pointing out the issues with the sinks as well. Feedback like this is exactly what I hoped to get. Thanks!

Basemental

I've tried several times now. The odds of 48 (51-3) lines not producing an addiction at 10% chance per line is 0.9^48 which is about 1 in 170. So small but not that small. Adding the 34 chances from the teen you end up with somewhere between 1 and 2 in 10000 - (0.9*82 precisely). Tested some more and still haven't seen it without taking high grade. I'll take another look. Probably a bit easier to trace but the sink interaction isn't available on Dine Out, Fitness Pack, or Parenthood sinks.

Lee

Love the creative brisk-shower solution to the problem :)

Basemental

Hi Lee. I will take a look at this, but this might not be a fluke but rather a game of chance seeing that both the addiction and overdose chance is set by percentage. Lets say (throwing out a fictitious number for the sake of trying to explain this) you have a 10% chance of getting addicted after the 3rd line in a row, and all lines following that line, statistically speaking you should get addicted after 10 lines, but, with percentages you can also be unlucky/lucky (depending on your viewpoint) and not get addicted at all for 40 doses, or get hooked immediately after the 3rd line. I will however have a look at it to make sure that everything is working as it should though, and I really appreciate the feedback on this. Doing more lines of average coke should definitely give more than a +5 confidence boost at least, so I will sort that out.

Basemental

I can't wait to test it out.

@Lee wow that's a lot. Lol My sims could only afford the average and she got addicted just by doing around 6 or 7. Your sims must have a high tolerance. Lol

SpreadLoveNotHate

Tested with coke. High grade coke worked really well, but the average coke only seems to re-up a +5 confident moodlet - no addiction or overdoses (tested on a teen with 37 doses consecutively and an adult at 51 doses of average coke). All sims experienced overdose and addiction readily with high-grade coke. ETA: Snorting good coke seems to be a prerequisite to the other behaviors. I can do an infinite amount of average coke if all I do is average coke, but if good coke is used at all in the use chain (before coming down), I can get addicted and trigger an OD, even when using average coke.

Lee

So far so good. My sims had a non fatal over dose, so I had her take a brisk shower and made it go down fast, so that's good as well and I had her try more and now she's addicted to coke for 9 days. So everything is working as you planned for it to.

SpreadLoveNotHate

YAAAS! I squealed when I got the email. About to update now and start playing. Thank you! You seriously are my favorite Sims 4 artist! <3

HeyItsMissJay

The Clubber trait disappeared again :(

Yay! So excited to try it later tonight thankyou 💜💜

Awesome just download going to test

Thank You

Delores Dodds