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[Bonus Episode] Ep 3 - Business Owner CALLED OUT By Tiktoker

In today’s bonus episode, the girlies walk you through the “outlet icing” drama you all voted to see! Is it spackle? Is it icing? Idk, but it’s falling apart.

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“Something amidst” is taking me out. We love you our confidently wrong queen

Morgan Breaux

Hahaha! I used to be the same way regarding returns, but gurls, I’m so glad to have got over that. Don’t hesitate to return crap ass items. 😉

SasquatchRadius

I'm also a commenter who is a million years late to this one! But wanted to say as a fellow Etsy star seller, maybe this was a lesson for the business owner to learn what good customer service should be. You need to keep your star seller stats high in order to keep the status month after month, so maybe she'll know now what causes a bad review....

Sandra Huber

Hey girlies, I know I'm super late to this but just wanted to give a little insight as someone that works in trade/shipping. Reefer trucks/containers are used by businesses but they're typically reserved for larger orders or it's extremely expensive to ship something that small. It is possible to ship temperature controlled items, it's just not common or realistic for small businesses to use them mainly due to cost. **edit** I still think the seller is 100% at fault for poor quality items/packaging. Also pretty sure she was trying to start the claim process with USPS so she wouldn't be penalized as a seller and wouldn't have to issue a refund.

Luna Mayhem

I know I’m a thousand years late to this, but I have experience using spackle in art. I made milkshake props and both spooned it into a glass cup and piped on the “whipped cream”. The spackle wouldn’t do this, especially if it was cured properly, but also I’m wondering if she’s mixing the spackle with something and it’s not curing correctly because the formula is now changed. Either way what an asshole way to run a business 🤡

Shiloh Arlit

I’m rewatching this in June and I STILL thought you meant Icing the store like - and Icing Outlet Store and not at all wall outlet covers lolol

Sarah🩷🤍🧡

Bro the amount of time this lady is arguing could've just been spent... sending the refund?? She's so annoying this customer is way more patient than I could've been 🙄🙃

Cee Smith

Hi Jessi, just small FYI, it's "something amiss" instead of "something amidst". Super close, super easy mistake to make💜 and I'm sure someone already commented this so I'm sorry 🤣

Cee Smith

woah, that's nuts! I really want to hunt for your review now 😂

Loula

I would’ve been cussing this woman out so hard after the fifth time she mentioned submitting a claim to USPS

Rebecca Lee

It blows my mind that this is a $12 outlet cover that she won’t just remake and resend. The products probably don’t cost a lot to make. Just send a replacement and call it a day.

Dominique

As someone who sells on Etsy, I'm pretty sure it's expected of sellers to refund the customer then the SELLER works with USPS if they damaged the product. Sounds like the seller didn't feel like doing the work or USPS wasn't going to say it was their fault so they pushed it off to the customer.

Caitlyn

Please include on the Bonus episodes I love the internets! I love watching your reactions to each other’s videos and criticizing each other’s algorithms 😂

Cynister Feelings

Sounds to me like she wanted her to submit the claim with USPS so that she could tell Etsy it’s already being handled by USPS

Cynister Feelings

the blush is the georgio armani silk cheek tints in #62 and #53 💕

ember quinn

If I'm not mistaken, this is only for patreon 😎

Katie Dodge

GUYS! I am actually losing my mind because this is the first time I KNOW the business. I literally bought from the shop and left a review on March 29, 2024 (with a photo; you can probably find my review if you go on their etsy). I had a problem where mine arrived smushed and the corners fell off, but it was slightly malleable so I glued it on and unsquished it the best I could...I am sooooo dead, but the girl was completely right about the malleability and how fragile it was, but I am so easily impressed, thought it was a shipping issue (and hate returns), and I knew it would dry eventually.

Alexis Hunt

Yes! We need to see it!

Burtasaurusrex11

Yes! And business owners being out of pocket responding to reviews lol

Burtasaurusrex11

Like last year! Lol she started flipping out on stage and tell fans to off themselves.

Skylar Sell

as a cake decorator I was so excited for this episode and I fear I didn't have context

Emily Elser

With a title of “outlet icing” floating around here for so long this was NOT the story I was expecting at all 😂😂😂

Abigail

That sucks 😞

Daniel Bryce

She needs to sand the light sockets and let them dry in order to get that to stick lol

Eva-Marie Hamilton

Yes it is! lol

Do We Know Them

is that the blush from the sabrina carpenter makeup video that jessi is wearing? it’s BEAUTIFUL

Yelizeth Zuniga

I have to say, she doesn't show the initial message where she explains there was an issue with the product

Paula

Yes count these too! 😁

Siân Powell

loveee this bonus episode thanks yallll :)

mina!

Agreed!

Elizabeth Melanson

Literally same😂

Cassie Sampson

Unfortunately no 😓 i was getting no where with the customer service person and gave up. Canceled uber one and haven’t touched the app in months

lindsey

I’m so happy to watch this 😂 I forgot it happened lmao

Juliettechos

Hope you feel better soon 😊

Daniel Bryce

Welcome 😊

Daniel Bryce

Hope you're ok. Whatever it is, you'll get through it. The girlies have got your back 😊

Daniel Bryce

💯 However, even if that was decided on, she'd never remember to do it 😂

Daniel Bryce

Jessi's inaccurate word choices are definitely DWKT lore! Just wouldn't be the same without them 🤣

Daniel Bryce

She really was infuriating!!! Thank goodness you've got a whole lot more sense and integrity, with what sounds like incredible customer service. Wish more sellers realised this will actually help their store flourish and give their customers a great experience. Glad your business is doing well, keep it up 😊

Daniel Bryce

Same here; it's tradition!!

Daniel Bryce

That got me too 🤣

Daniel Bryce

I remember doing exactly the same, the first time I saw this on the podcast. This time was even worse though, cause I knew if was coming 🤣

Daniel Bryce

Hot tip of the day! 💜

Daniel Bryce

💯

Daniel Bryce

I like it! They could see if their opinions have changed, if they were a little too harsh or not harsh enough, in their commentary. Also provide any updates or insights as to where the situation or "characters" are today. Good idea 👍🏻

Daniel Bryce

💯

Daniel Bryce

That's so frustrating! Did you manage to get a refund or discount off your order?

Daniel Bryce

Haha same here 😂 Loved it!

Daniel Bryce

There's no way the seller could think USPS and the customer are the ones at fault in this situation! Gas-lighting 101. Does anyone have an update on the situation?

Daniel Bryce

Not me thinking the drama was about Icing the Claire’s offshoot store and outlet meaning shopping outlet

KittyCult

Really enjoyed this🩵🤗

MellyInspiredCrochet

Just a random little fact that the usps is self funded not by tax dollars.

Kelsey Nicole

Need a whole series on small business drama. The girlies are always fighting

Taylor Mingus

Is there no YouTube link?

Layne

Agreed 😂😂

Devon Kavanagh

something AMISS

Grace W

This video had me CACKLING. excellent bonus content

Grace W

Crying at the AI voice overs lmfao

VaporwaveDreams

do an episode catching up on past dramas, seeing where people are now and what they're up to

Georgia Mitchell

Jessi girl ily but something a midst? 🤣🤣🤣

Faiza Nassib

Loved it

maree somers

Omg i know what I'm watching on my lunch today

☆Hannah☆

“Is this a fanfic” plsss

MDP

This was my first thought. It insured the seller, not the buyer.

Literally 🧡 Just 🤍 Jess 🩷

I'm sorry but these look horrible ???? I'm seriously baffled why anyone would buy this lmao

Kevin Abroad

"Hello? God??" Jessi makes me lmaooooo

Sofia Cacho

Oh hell no that conversation would have been my villain origin story. 😡

Michaela Hunter

I thought they were talking about the outlet store 😭

lindsey

The lady copy pasting her USPS text happened to me with UberEats before. $40 order and they “forgot” to give us half the food. When I tried customer support FOUR TIMES they sent the same “you’re not eligible for a refund” text, I asked for a supervisor and got sent the same message again. Deleted the app so fast after.

lindsey

Fully agree - pretty please

maree somers

That's what I was wondering. Cuz in general, if you rough up the surface (especially if it's a shiny surface) it helps adhesion.

Arienne Libbrecht

The girlies could be reading the PHONE BOOK and I wouldn't care bc I'm happy they are back!!

Vic

Here to get the details as well 💖

Courtney Cox

Lily needs to release the Epstein deep diveeee

Morgan Hart

Yes count these episodes too! Please!! 💖💖💖💖

Jaydie

Omg Lily asking if they're going to count these after the cheers! 200th episode treat?

Morgen Clay

If you want I think it would be cool to do episodes on past dramas, just getting your opinions on it. I wish you were all around with the CreepShowArt drama too

Allison Schleicher

The amount of times the seller just REFUSED to understand. She was being deliberately obtuse like come on

Paty

12 minutes in!! I’m a full time Etsy seller, and USPS damage is something us SELLERS need to report/file (but first…. it has to actually be damaged in transit and not because the product was faulty 💀) So asking the customer to file a claim is diabolical

Sienna Laine

Oh I know…just curious because they said it would be posted today

Victoria

WHAT?! WHEN was this and what happened I didn't know about it

peachxtaehyung

This is just for a bonus episode. This isn't for the main channel. As far as when the main channel vid is coming they're running behind they posted on community tab

peachxtaehyung

A moment in history ™️😂

J

“One thing that everything wants to do with plastic is slide right off of it.” Period. This is literally true.

J

Also, it was very, obviously not dry, which was a big problem😂🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Charlotte the Nail Tech

As someone who does crafting and has worked with decoden cream/ cream glue (I’m assuming what the icing artist uses on her light switches) if she wanted to do it properly, she would’ve needed to up the area that she was applying the cream to nail file or Dremel.

Charlotte the Nail Tech

I wasn't expecting this to be the icing story! I thought it would've been to do with cakes. 😂 I'm losing my mind with those messages the seller sent. They're like automated responses.

Karla

yesssss omg!!!

lelly

I still can’t believe she ate the croissant 😂😭

Devon Kavanagh

I saw this on my TikTok saw all the parts and went mmmmm i’m sure the girlies will cover I’ll just wait 😂😂

Devon Kavanagh

Business owners are so dumb. It’s like all the people who were shocked their shops that were just ripping off Disney and marvel characters got shut down like yes you can’t do that

Rachel

omg i was thinking about those phone cases while watching. i had a custom one back in high school that lasted me YEARS

heartfilia

Where’s the main channel video??

Victoria

This was my favorite bonus episode so far! Random tiktok drama like this is the best

Amy Ventura

This is suuuuch old drama but I always wanted you guys to cover Ashley Gavin the stand up comedian from TikTok that kept freaking out on stage and screaming at her own fans

Skylar Sell

The one she bought was but they had ones for powerpoints too

Jodie Dymock

Im a third year engineering student, and my professor of material science would scream at the "rehydrate FROM THE INSIDE" part of here logic 😆 it wasn't sticky on the outside, thus it's in the drying prosess 🤣

Andrea

So apparently people on TikTok have been giving paper clay recipes to do this kind of craft and in willing to BET that's what this is and why it looks kinda like plaster. Decoden crafters typically use a "frosting glue" (which becomes waterproof!!) or silicone caulk! Example of water based decoden frosting glue: https://happykawaiisupplies.com/products/decoden-whipped-cream-glue-black-with-1-frosting-tip-for-cell-phone-decoration-50-g-310508425

Desirée

I'm not an expert by any means but surely this would be a fire hazard on a power outlet??

Jodie Dymock

Love watching this on my night shift 🙌🏻🙌🏻

King Cap

....this is why you're supposed to use silicone for decoden!!

Desirée

I was sCREAMING when she took a bite of that croissant

Emmy Glo

Loved this. No notes.

Coral M

Girlies, as someone with an Etsy shop, it’s so easy to refund. If it falls under seller and customer agreed to a refund, you get the fees back and only lose the profit, so like $8 is probably what she made. By having to contact Etsy support and have an open case, your Etsy star seller badge is put in limbo, you try to do anything to avoid a customer going to Etsy directly.

Serenity

The thing that is truly wild to me about this whole debacle is that I've seen those same style products being sold as custom cell phone cases for YEARS. There is no way this wasn't a curing issue - if that material is strong enough to function as a cell phone case... it shouldn't be destroyed by a lil poke.

Emily Bosch

How many times have we seen small business owners ruin their business because they cannot take any accountability. It’s mind boggling 😂

Hinna Parmar

😝😝😝😝

BdazzldNails aka Brandis

"Hello? God?" Has me cackling

Kamalei Sterling

The AI voiceover video was HILARIOUS. I was laughing out loud to your reactions 🤣

shandi

Please release the Epstein documents

Tiara

Jessi laughing at “happy birthday Trilby” every chance she gets kills me

Oliviacherry

Jessi’s makeup slayyyyed today! Dying to know the highlight/ blush situation

Alison Keeney

I SECOND THIS!

shandi

I made fake cakes with a friend with a foam base and spackle as "frosting" and even with acrylic paint mixed into the spackle for color it still set firm and doesn't mush.

Kristin Deacey

They would probably only refund for the actual light switch and the materials

Mady Obi

Also, handmade items are uninsurable therefore usps wouldn’t be willing to refund even if it was their fault

Mady Obi

“The usps doesn’t control the weather?!?!😀” I need that on a shirt so I can wear it to work

Mady Obi

ME TOO

Cassi B.

The whole time you’ve been mentioning the icing outlet drama, I thought you meant an outlet of the store Icing 💀

Cassi B.

Same 😅

Brittani

I really wanted the Ashley one but mostly to hear what they thought lol. She doesn’t even come across my feed that often really. When I first heard of her I thought she was the one who picked up the inmate for some fun but it was someone else named Elizabeth 😂

EB

Okay you laugh but now I’m gonna need you to keep count of these episodes too😂

Cassie Sampson

The way the business owner was pressing on the outlet reminds me of when girlies would pretend to remove makeup with a dry makeup wipe

Claudia

Yes sanding and then making sure it’s completely clean by wiping with alcohol. With this case the clay or spackle isn’t dry clearly which would also affect it but it also looks like she doesn’t apply it right. I also make 3D tumblers and I sculpt with clay on the tumbler and the remove after it dries and then actually glue it on before continuing the process. It’s easy to skip parts like that but it highly affects the end product’s longevity.

Amanda Bailey

Omg this Etsy seller is infuriating! I’ve had a business for over 6 years and Etsy is my main revenue stream. This seller isn’t cut out for it. She’s too emotionally immature as you have to be able to receive constructive criticism. That buyer was very sweet. She didn’t have to do all of that with her she could have opened a case on Etsy. She was trying to work with her. It’s embarrassing that so many hobby crafters start a shop on Etsy with zero education or research. My customer service is what gets mentioned in my reviews so often. I have a 1 year warranty lmao. I think most buyers are just shocked when reaching out to me about an issue. I’m always quick to apologize and send a replacement. That’s why I have so many return customers. It’s not rocket science. In fact if I ran an in person business I probably would be awful! I’m quick to react and emotional but I never respond immediately if I’m frustrated. Not trying to toot my own horn I’m just trying to say that it’s pretty easy if you have good customer service and good quality products. 🤷‍♀️

Laura

I seriously thought this was going to be about The Icing by Claire's and their outlet store 💀

Michelle Spencer

My brain immediately went there too 😂 oooh something happened at icing by Claire's at the outlet mall? Tell me more 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

Hilary Rustin

I would assume sanding the surface helps

Arianna Todd

Not the Seller trying have the girl commit mail fraud. 😩 [Also, she's acting dumb but she was smart enough not to do the claim herself, otherwise it would have been insurance fraud. She knows exactly what she's doing.]

Jessie Brown

ok but the girl constantly calling it a "light socket" is annoying me so much lol

Mo Medusa

It straight up looks like if the customer shook the outlet it would’ve fallen apart

Rylee

I would LOVE a Retrospective take on the Creepshow Art situation as a bonus episode!!

Bethany

This just saved me I’ve been waiting for my car to be done for over an hour now. Thank you girlies!💕

Ella Renee

I'm a rhinestone artist and put rhinestones on everything including plastic. She is clearly not prepping the surface properly or using any adhesive.

Amanda Bailey

I ALSO thought this was going to be about an icing brand outlet store hahaha

Tarebearstare

Can we get the deep dive lily had mentioned on Jeffrey Epstein ?!

Stephany

Honestly the hardest part was finding 10 items that weren’t completely broken. It was a surprisingly stressful situation.

Elizabeth Darling

We have two outlet malls in Vegas but one was filled with tourists (and wasn’t around when I was a kid) and the other one was far south so we never really went to either. But I did clean house at Claire’s and Icing. I recently found a box I had since I was a kid and there were so many pairs of those silicone spiky earrings, which oddly enough, fit the actual theme of this episode! lol

Rachel

Happy birthday trilby not this time 😂😂😂

Lola

Our outlet mall used to have a Claire’s outlet. Since I’m a dinosaur, I remember Claire’s used to rarely have 10 items for $5 sales but they ran them like 24/7 at the outlet. Half the stuff was broken but baby I was ✨accessorized.✨

Elizabeth Darling

I'm watching this while getting to go work, at USPS 😆 We have enough issues, she can't put this one on us!

Allyson Knight

Dammit. I already knew about this from Markie. Still excited to hear you talk about it. But I was honestly expecting some drama about an outlet store for the Claire’s older sister brand Icing. Like Jojo asbestos eyeshadow adjacent.

Elizabeth Darling

I always watch on my lunch break and was sad to see that Monday’s regular ep wasn’t up yet and then the girlies blessed us with this!

Allison Cox

You should count the episodes cause that’s how we remind each other which episode to go rewatch for whatever reason….

Amy L

I was like “there’s an outlet version of The Icing? How much cheaper could it get?” 😂

Rachel

I NEEEEED you guys to cover Molly Rutter's sudden white savior complex personality! Hahaha

Victoria

“Something amidst” 😭🤣 Jessi comin in hot with the wrong words and I wouldn’t want it any other way. Something indeed was *amiss*

Elizabeth Melanson

Since lily always looks at the sign on the reg episodes, I think the intro to Patreon bonus episodes should have Jessi look up 💛

Holly

I am dying with the USPS messages 😂

Sara

I really really really needed this 😣 I’m having such a hard time

Sarah🩷🤍🧡

SAMEEEE

Taylor C

Just subbed to the Patreon!! So excited to support the girlies 💜💜

Avery 🖤

Patreon coming in clutchhhh whilst we wait on Monday’s ep to post 🥳 love it girlies!!!

Lauren Hunke

Yassssssssssss. 😍😍😍

Allison.

This is what I needed today

MaplesMom

Yesss I'm so glad you're covering this silly topic 😂

Sommer

Why did I think this was about The Icing? The store. Like the emo version of Claire’s 😂😂😂

Rachel

I rewatch your episodes when I put away my laundry 🧡🧡

Stephany

Yaayyy!!! I’m so sick today and just laying in bed. This will be perfect to pass some time

Alyssa

Omgggg! So excited to see this!

Stephany

We have been blessed 🙌🏻

Rachel Mariee

sooo ready to hang out with the girlies

Julia Madelena

Not me rewatching old episodes and then get this notif 🎉

Sullikins

Yay!!! Outlet icing episode!!!

Claudia

yesss girlies

Drayden


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