Anna Wintour Vs Naomi Campbell
Added 2024-09-13 19:38:55 +0000 UTCI see this has caused a lot of conversatoin, so I am creating a space to talk about it.
Do you all think that Wintour is wrong for calling our Naomi Campbell at the event?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y59ffdwb5-4
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Nah, she had every right to say something was it the right place and the right time idk. But like Bob said, if she’s had to endure her being late notoriously for everything fed up is fed up.
Kristopher Daniel
2024-10-12 22:01:01 +0000 UTCEh. It’s not that big of a deal. This isn’t new or damning information about Naomi and seems pretty inconsequential regardless of where it was said so 🤷🏽♀️
Raveen Lemon
2024-09-29 20:21:34 +0000 UTCIt’s tacky.
Gentaro Ramadhan
2024-09-24 16:54:27 +0000 UTCApparently she wasn’t late. She showed up at the time the producers told her to. Anna presented early so she could go watch the US Open.
Jess Ca
2024-09-20 18:44:50 +0000 UTCI think that Anna calling Naomi out on the same night she is meant to receive, what is essentially, a lifetime achievement award is socially unacceptable. or at the very least professionally inappropriate
Bec Lewers
2024-09-19 09:53:09 +0000 UTCassuming there weren’t outside factors affecting naomi that day, if the award was so important to her that it would be an issue to be called out at the event, it would have been important enough for her to be on time
Jasmine
2024-09-19 06:09:04 +0000 UTCI agree with wat Monet said. If she knows she's always late she could've declined. Is it rude and inconsiderate that Naomi is always late? Yes, of course, but handling it in that way when she's being honored wuz tacky
Gucci R
2024-09-18 03:12:37 +0000 UTCBetty and Joan did it better.
Squeaky_Fromage
2024-09-17 17:02:46 +0000 UTCWhy is everyone acting like the disrespect and the shade is solely coming from Anna Wintor. This is on Naomi Campbell. she had the gall to be late when accepting an award and to accept it from the most powerful person in fashion. She wasnt showing respect and she got called out for not showing respect... whats wrong with that.
W F
2024-09-17 16:36:51 +0000 UTCi’m only saying she’s not wrong because it’s something naomi would’ve done too. they’re both petty bitches
khaib
2024-09-16 17:20:56 +0000 UTCI think Anna should have been more professional about it. She could have handled it in private, but instead was shady for no reason.
Sincerely Eccentric
2024-09-16 16:15:08 +0000 UTCIt's totally reasonable for her to be mad at Naomi and want nothing to do with her in the future, but bad mouthing her on stage at an event honoring her is far more rude than being late.
Sam Kon
2024-09-16 02:16:19 +0000 UTCDrag her/he/they/them, Bob lol
Lee Bolt
2024-09-16 00:10:15 +0000 UTCShe was wrong… but Naomi is always the common denominator. And Riri is Queen
Sasha Mala
2024-09-15 23:21:32 +0000 UTCWhat the fuck is wrong with her?
JakeyCakey
2024-09-15 20:38:25 +0000 UTCAlso, I'll say that the phrasing in the poll is a bit off for me. I think it was *inappropriate* that Wintour did it in that situation, not wrong. And, factually, she was "justified", because Naomi is indeed chronically late... It was just inappropriate of her to say it in a situation where you are supposed to be honoring the person.
SA Hall
2024-09-15 18:50:03 +0000 UTCif the table were turned and Naomi were the one calling out Anna Wintour for being chronically late while introducing her for an award, the entire fashion world would have jumped down Naomi's throat in two seconds.
SA Hall
2024-09-15 18:47:07 +0000 UTCp.s. I am not attacking Bob by saying it was bit ableist. Just naming it, do with it what you will...
SA Hall
2024-09-15 18:44:38 +0000 UTCummm I elaborated quite a bit... tf... maybe go back and rewatch the episode and ask yourself how this might be ableist. If you don't see it, me elaborating further won't help you lol
SA Hall
2024-09-15 18:42:23 +0000 UTCBob if you had no issue with Madonna being late to her shows multiple times and causing people to miss their trains home then you should have no issue with Naomi. I think you even told people complaining to get over it because Madonna has always been late and you get what you get with her. Same thing Monet was saying.
Juan Quinonez
2024-09-15 18:40:16 +0000 UTCApparently Naomi wasn’t late and got there at the time her award was being presented at and Anna wanted to give it to her but early. I saw someone say this but obviously not sure if it’s true or not. I’d say not judge till you get the fully story because even though she could have been late, she might not have been and Anna was just being a bitch
jack younger
2024-09-15 16:41:01 +0000 UTCITS WILLLD Anna did not have to accept the presenter role knowing she had qualms with the recipients timeliness. It would have been warranted had Naomi been the presenter and was late for an award presented to Anna.
michaela
2024-09-15 15:57:10 +0000 UTCAna Wintour is not always on time. So she could’ve just kept it moving
M.rachelle
2024-09-15 15:17:32 +0000 UTCSomething tells me Anna Wintor was not striving for class that night tho 😂
Joshua_Neil113
2024-09-15 14:18:50 +0000 UTCIdk bc the fashion industry is one unlike any other, but is there not like an HR for Anna to go to, calling her out at an acceptance speech is outright just as inappropriate as being late for 30 yrs so if Anna wanted to remain classy I would recommend going about it in a more closed professional space
Joshua_Neil113
2024-09-15 14:18:16 +0000 UTCNot that these thinngs arent true but i think it’s a stretch to bring that up in this context and kind of counterproductive to the discussion
EdHead
2024-09-15 14:03:18 +0000 UTCNaomi Chewed
Jordan Harper
2024-09-15 13:38:44 +0000 UTCDamn
JakeyCakey
2024-09-15 12:17:17 +0000 UTCTime blindness can sometimes be associated with ADHD and other neurodivergence ..not to mention timeliness is based in white colonialism and capitalism
Pigpen 🇸🇻🇲🇽
2024-09-15 08:55:11 +0000 UTCshe's wrong but she's not THAT wrong
Allie
2024-09-15 03:02:33 +0000 UTCableist how?? are you just not gonna elaborate
Jacob Aguirre
2024-09-14 23:27:38 +0000 UTCAnna accepted the invitation to do this, and knew she wouldn’t be able to accommodate Naomi’s lateness. I wouldn’t have double booked myself personally. I do however think it’s tacky to call Naomi out at a ceremony celebrating her.
Kriss Zel
2024-09-14 20:39:37 +0000 UTCi was thinking the exact same thing
Shannan
2024-09-14 20:24:22 +0000 UTCAs bob would say : Why you gagging, she bring it to you every week ? If Ana had other important things to do then she should’ve said, I respect Naomi but I cannot accept to present the award. Then if she does show up late which you know she will. You can simply leave cause you’re not presenting the award. Don’t sign a contract to make a toast to someone and then spend the entire time saying bad things of them. If you don’t like it don’t be apart of it. Simple.
Glee
2024-09-14 20:11:44 +0000 UTCThat's valid, I just think it goes both ways. People are acting like Anna is the only one out of line, but being late and disrespectful for years is also out of line. And I think being disrespectful and late for years is worse imo. Being late to accept an award at a prestigious event was probably the last straw because it is rude to people's time 🤷♂️
Kevy
2024-09-14 19:44:31 +0000 UTCIt was tacky for her to do that imagine if Naomi accepted the award and then went on to proclaim that Anna is a bitch to work with? It’s out of place regardless of what you’ve done. I know from my own point of view lateness isn’t about the other person - it’s about my issues with procrastination that stem from mental health! Does Anna know the real reason why Naomi is late all the time? Maybe she has OCD and can’t leave until certain things are done repeatedly. There is never a time and a place to publicaly shame someone and think this is the best way to get them to improve. Anna did it to get laughs at her speech. It was cheap and distasteful. Also! I can’t help but notice that as a black woman - it seems like an easy target to get people on your side by saying something that will make them look bad. IJS
Caris Jordana
2024-09-14 19:42:42 +0000 UTCwith regards to this specific situation, I do think that it was inappropriate for Wintour to do it in that situation. Like, just refuse to present the award and then post about it on social media or something. It's pretty messed up to do that when you are literally presenting them with an award - just as messed up as being chronically late imo...
SA Hall
2024-09-14 19:12:04 +0000 UTCBob's argument was a bit ableist... Like yes, it is inappropriate for people to be late all the time, and it is fine to call them out for it (NOT if you are presenting an award to them - just don't present the award). But Bob going off about how people are CHOOSING to be late, knowing how it inconveniences everyone else and still choosing to do that, is the ableist part. Much of the time, it is not that simple. Just because YOU are able to manage your time and show up on time, doesn't make you a better person than anybody who can't. They are not doing it purposely to disrespect you. At least, for most late people, that is not the case. It was the whole overarching spin Bob put on late people as a whole that is problematic - it is not that simple. Stick to critiquing individuals, not entire swaths of people who have different struggles and issues.
SA Hall
2024-09-14 19:09:16 +0000 UTCthat wouldn't happen to me. No one can say that I'm always late. cause I'm not.
Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change
2024-09-14 18:02:40 +0000 UTCLiterally
Angel
2024-09-14 17:42:40 +0000 UTCAnna was wrong for saying that at an event thats meant to celebrate her .. if that was you bob you wouldve been mad
Angel
2024-09-14 17:42:16 +0000 UTCThey could both be wrong, and they both were. But siding with Ana Wintour is LITERALLY siding with the Devil!😉
Chris-BiPolar
2024-09-14 16:27:43 +0000 UTCYes. Messy is the word
EdHead
2024-09-14 16:10:27 +0000 UTCAnna has the choice to say ‘i dont work with naomi because she’s late and I think thats unprofessional and rude or disrespectful’ and I think that’s a really sensible boundary to out in place. But calling her out publicly like that without Naomi even being there isn’t very nice imo. And if it’s a longstanding thing she probably should’ve done this a long time before and more privately and professionally. Let’s not act like this isnt a messy way to do it and she knows that. I dont agree with monet’s argument about expecting her to be late, but I do think if her lateness is such an issue for Anna Im not really sure why she agreed to do this gig in the first place. Like if she’s agreed to present this award and honour Naomi, she should be acknowledging that honour despite knowing Naomi has been late for many years, at which point why would she choose to get up there and say that. Either she wants to present the award to a tardy rude person or not but that was the case before this incident too. Maybe that’s what Monet was trying to express idk 🤷♂️
EdHead
2024-09-14 16:08:57 +0000 UTCI agree with this as well… but it is the tone of Anna that was rude and doing it in front of a room full of people
Kathryn Brereton
2024-09-14 16:06:00 +0000 UTCNothing that hasn’t been said already but…I do think it’s disrespectful and rude to be late. I acknowledge that the lifestyle and schedules of celebrities means it is sometimes inevitable but given Naomi’s reputation and decades of lateness we can safely say it’s a problem which lays with her and likely not a behind the scenes sob story reason we don’t know about or any other technicality. Whether or Not Naomi is a nice person is kind of irrelevant. For all we know Anna Wintour might have called Naomi out face to face politely or rudely or whatever several times in the past but regardless I think it IS in poor taste to do so in front of a crowd at an event honouring Naomi and when Naomi isn’t even there to defend herself at the time. Now That’s shady. If Anna didn’t want to be anything but professional and gracious to Naomi when awarding her something she should’ve said no to that event, that’s what she is there to do, not bitch about her. If what other people say about the tennis etc. is true that is also nasty on Anna’s side. However, I don’t agree with what Monet was arguing about knowing Naomi was late. Just because someone has been late in the past doesn’t mean it becomes acceptable, ever. And you always have a right to be frustrated if people dont respect your time. I dont think bob’s “respectability politics” argument really stands in this scenario either, particularly in the context of Anna Wintour…
EdHead
2024-09-14 15:52:32 +0000 UTCIt’s not that being called out on being late is inappropriate. People are justified in calling out co workers and loved ones when their lateness is impactful. The issue to me that it’s not appropriate to criticize someone when presenting an award to them meant to honor them. This does not include protests regarding rights violations; by all means people should be called out for being racists, rapists etc and not be celebrated. But being late isn’t that. Anna/presenters should be pleasant to the honoree when presenting or say no to the job.
Rebecca Luchok Charlson
2024-09-14 13:21:23 +0000 UTCThere’s probably a lot more we don’t know y’all. I’m with Anna on this one. Naomi seems to be the problem.
Toni Marrero
2024-09-14 13:13:14 +0000 UTCAnna is completely in the wrong. She wanted to present early and go watch tennis, Naomi showed up at the original time. Even if Naomi had okayed the new timeslot, I don't think she deserves to be called out for being late when being presented for an award, because all she failed to do was show up earlier than originally agreed upon.
Deniz Şahin
2024-09-14 13:06:26 +0000 UTCExactly I don't know why no one is mentioning this!
Deniz Şahin
2024-09-14 13:03:17 +0000 UTCHaha did Monet write this?
Tin
2024-09-14 12:48:56 +0000 UTCShe was wrong to call her out like that but I get it if someone is always late that’s very frustrating and I would tell her about herself just not publicly at an event to honor HER
Mackenzie Harville
2024-09-14 11:02:09 +0000 UTCI do not like either of them. They are both wrong. Hahaha
Carlos Rodriguez
2024-09-14 09:43:45 +0000 UTCI agreed with Monet but Bob convinced me over to his side lol. If someone has been disrespecting you and others for 30 years in the industry there's no reason people should have to feel silenced about it. If you're allowed to be late, others are also allowed to react to it. I also don't understand the concept of expecting her to be late and excusing/adjusting to it. Being late constantly is disrespectful and shouldn't be excused in a professional setting. 🤷♂️ It doesn't matter to me that this is a prestigious event where she is getting an award, if anything that makes it even worse that she was late here too! Shouldn't she respect the event and make every effort possible to be there on time? It's disrespectful and so many other people in the industry have no issue being places on time. Also, if she was on time, Anna may not have even brought it up 🤷♂️ I think people are hung up on the event itself but this issue clearly involves years of disrespect from Naomi, it's a bigger scope than just this one event. It gets to a point where someone has to draw the line and Anna drew it and I respect her for that.
Kevy
2024-09-14 08:36:38 +0000 UTCskip to 24:25 of this video to see her literally call mariah the hard R https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfnLjGyd52k&ab_channel=SomeDaysYou%27reBarbra
Jennie
2024-09-14 08:23:38 +0000 UTCwhat i don't get is since when was being called late so offensive
Ryan scar
2024-09-14 08:23:19 +0000 UTCI do love naomi for this though because she stood up for mariah when she literally got called the N word full ER by sandra bernhard just for collabing with puffy (ik we hate him now but context) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X-jMYOj4IY&ab_channel=TheWorldOfLambs%21
Jennie
2024-09-14 08:21:48 +0000 UTCThis makes way more sense, ANNA wanted everyone to work around her time and naomi showed up the time she was given. In conclusion, anna is the asshole.
Jennie
2024-09-14 07:59:19 +0000 UTCYes, she is allowed to be irritated with Naomi. But if Anna really respected her, she would have said it in private. So… maybe Anna just doesn’t respect Naomi? I’d say they match each others freak.
Trista
2024-09-14 07:58:14 +0000 UTCAnna was wrong
Adriiaannn
2024-09-14 07:27:24 +0000 UTCWas Anna’s sentiments wrong? No. Does she have a right to feel that way? ABSOLUTELY. Should Naomi constantly keep people waiting? No, that’s rude. Should she expect someone to say something about it? Probably. But….should Anna have picked THAT MOMENT to share her feelings with people she doesn’t even know? NO! That wasn’t the time or place for that. In a room full of people they BOTH KNOW and work with? I could get behind that. But in front of a crowd of people there to see her receive an award….no ma’am. I would’ve responded just like Naomi.
Donnie Chanel
2024-09-14 07:24:23 +0000 UTCSiding with Monet here, it was not the time and the place to give the attitude and drama…
Arslan Ambushev
2024-09-14 07:02:15 +0000 UTCGirl; she was wrong. She knew damn well Naomi was going to be late. She tried to make Naomi’s moment about her.
AbelTheePisces
2024-09-14 04:40:52 +0000 UTCBob jokingly mentioned in Sibling Rivalry maybe Naomi Campbell is the issue (If she has had beef with Tyra Banks, Anna Wintour, Rihanna (Allegedly). Then the issue may be with her. But I don’t think that’s fair. A. It’s not Naomi Campbell’s fault that Tyra was needy as hell and too young to be in that world. B. Anna Wintour is such a nasty old bag, A Best Selling Book turned movie about her rude ass treatment of people was done. Then in the September issue, she kept showing how demanding she is, same for the movie First Week in May (she’s just a falsely entitled old snob, whose been allowed to behave like that without accountability.) For Anna to make that night about herself instead of being humble and let Naomi shine. Shows what an old falsely entitled bigoted snot she really is. If you gotta go, then leave bitch. No one will care. Don’t announce it and blame it on the honorary. Not everything is about you bitch Damn!! Also, stop this bullshit that Rihanna and Naomi Campbell are beefing. Just cause the girl didn’t say hi, as she came in late to a fashion show. If Rihanna wasn’t feeling Naomi, she’s bad as bitch enough to handle it right there or online later. She would let it be known and not have folks guessing. Same for Naomi.
Nicol
2024-09-14 04:21:22 +0000 UTCAccepting the opportunity to present awards to people on a prestigious night does NOT mean you cosign your consistently rude & late coworkers behavior. I think if you have displayed such selfish tendencies before, then someone is bound to call you out for it, and while it may not be appropriate to do it on front of a crowd... It's not like Naomi was respectful of HER time, so I can see how Anna would feel inclined to get a little cunty about it 🫣 I love Monet but the sense just wasn't making this episode I fear
Sardonic Muse
2024-09-14 04:20:04 +0000 UTCThat was not fierce of her to do. Diva move, countered by diva fierceness. Naomi wins this one I fear
Juicy Clear
2024-09-14 03:41:42 +0000 UTCIt just feels good to argue about something that isn’t destroying our society & planet 😭🫶 I love you guys no matter if you’re team Anna or team Naomi. As long as we all are making sure Trump is never team president again
Rebecca Luchok Charlson
2024-09-14 03:17:55 +0000 UTCI would love another survey for all the people who actually watched the speech 🤣. Naomi has been a fierce idol of mine for many years, but Wintor was completely valid in her statements—both verbally and experientially. Naomi demonstrated entitlement at its core definition. That being said, y’all check out Naomi’s interview series on her YouTube channel. AND her Valentino runaway Spring 2019. Changed my life and brought me to tears 🥲.
Cody Singh
2024-09-14 03:16:41 +0000 UTCI think it’s important to distinguish the questions ‘is it wrong to be late / is it ok to call out co workers or friends who are constantly late’ from ‘was it ok to in the presenting of an award for Anna as the presenter to call out Naomi the honoree’ Keeping in mind this wasn’t a political call out which are well justified in my opinion when people are racist, destroying the environment etc and there are many great examples of people doing this at the Oscar’s etc. This wasn’t that. It’s not cool to be late; it is justifiable to call out loved ones and co workers whose lateness impacts you. Anna was still tacky & in the wrong for doing it in that place and time
Rebecca Luchok Charlson
2024-09-14 03:15:07 +0000 UTCOne perspective that should be considered is how Anna would be perceived had she not said anything about it. Maybe it may have looked as if she wasn't fulfilling her job of presenting the award because she was deciding to leave early, so she wanted to provide some context. She did it in a shady way by saying she's a punctual person, but that could've understandingly just been her being annoyed having dealing with this for decades.
spicygayboy
2024-09-14 03:11:04 +0000 UTCi just feel like if people who have never even been within 1000 feet of naomi campbell know that she runs late to everything, a woman who has been working with her for 30 years should know what type of timing she's on. i agree with monet when she says KNOWING how naomi is why would you agree to do something for her when you have something to do and you know how this lady moves??? but instead of just leaving you make a rude comment about the person you're honoring on stage in front of everyone. i don't think its a big deal because naomi campbell IS always late and IS a confirmed and documented bitch so who really cares if she gets called out. its not like its gonna stain her insanely successful career it was just still a bitch move by anna
liyah
2024-09-14 02:55:20 +0000 UTCWhy are people not mentioning the fact that NAOMI WASN’T LATE!? She said the times got switched and she was on schedule for the original time. I’m sorry but that invalidates anything Anna said previously, and the fact that’ll are seemingly intentionally forgetting that key part of this whole debate is really annoying me lol.
Romero
2024-09-14 02:47:30 +0000 UTCNo.
Alex🤎Christopher
2024-09-14 02:44:11 +0000 UTCBecause A) Naomi was the honoree B) she wasn’t late, the times got switched - Naomi said when she was on stage. I feel like yall are being intentionally obtuse about this.
Romero
2024-09-14 02:43:41 +0000 UTCIs this the first poll Monétation has ever won? Werk
Kaycoulee
2024-09-14 01:26:31 +0000 UTCIt really all depends on your opinions around social norms and decorum… buttt I think it was tacky and an unnecessary dig to take when her whole purpose for speaking was to honor her. Maybe she could have just controlled her emotions about the situation and had a conversation about it later? Idk. Someone being late all the time is annoying af tho
Kelly B.
2024-09-14 01:03:24 +0000 UTCI can't believe this conversation is still going, guys I think Anna and Naomi got over it quicker than we are 😂
Christian
2024-09-14 01:00:09 +0000 UTCAs I said before…why does Naomi get to be an asshole and ruin everyone’s day (unapologetically) and Anna isn’t allowed to be an asshole back? #TeamBob&Anna
Alex🤎Christopher
2024-09-14 00:42:12 +0000 UTCI think she’s justified for feeling how she does, I do think it was the wrong time and place though. But in her defense when if not now would she ever really be able to call her out and have Naomi actually have to take accountability publicly for being habitually late with no remorse or regard for others and their time. She has to be made aware that she’s offending people by disrespecting their time over and over again, now to blatantly not care is very self absorbed and narcissistic of Naomi. But she was supposed to be receiving high praise so Anna could’ve just left and said fuck her forever 😂🤷🏾♂️ choices
Demond Brown
2024-09-14 00:35:04 +0000 UTCAnna Wintour is Anna Wintour. She did this event to honor Naomi Campbell conceivably because she *does* respect Naomi Campbell, meanwhile Naomi Campbell continues to disrespect Anna Wintour and *everyone* at this event by being late. I feel like a lot of people think it's "fierce" how much of a trash person Naomi Campbell seems to be and continues to be, so as messy bitch outsiders they EAT IT UP. But if I was Anna Wintour I would have done the exact same. Drag the hoe.
Lee Bolt
2024-09-14 00:20:26 +0000 UTCThis is my thing if you've known this girl for a decade or more and they're always why present the award to her and be made they're late. At this point just expect them to be late or don't do it. It's the same for friends. How can you be mad at someone you kno for a fact that they'll be late just tell them an earlier or get over it or even just don't hang out with them it's not that hard
Monica Cavallari
2024-09-14 00:02:27 +0000 UTCOn one hand maybe it was disrespectful to do that at an event but also maybe it’s disrespectful to hold up an entire event because you’re late.
Manuel Ayala
2024-09-13 23:44:07 +0000 UTCI’m with Monet on this one, time and place for everything and that was not it.
Sadie McMullen
2024-09-13 23:36:24 +0000 UTCJust Marry each other please and thank you
Kevin Cheney
2024-09-13 22:53:34 +0000 UTCFair to be annoyed at tardiness but she could have texted her afterwards if she was truly disappointed… honestly I’m think I’m being more sensitive to it because it was specifically a black event lol read the room Anna (but also be on time, Naomi)
A. Wilson
2024-09-13 22:50:11 +0000 UTCAnna was wrong in so many ways: 1 - unprofessionally calling her out to an audience on a mic without Naomi present 2 - Naomi wasn’t even late 3 - hypocrisy at its finest because it was Anna who wanted to leave early 4 - claiming to be punctual, yet clearly DOUBLE BOOKED 5 - conniving confidence to highlight Naomi’s famed tardiness to win a crowd that is unbeknownst to the truth
Narada
2024-09-13 22:36:31 +0000 UTCTeam they’re both wrong and also team why was Naomi on Epstein’s plane lol
Mauricio Jordan
2024-09-13 22:30:25 +0000 UTCShe was wrong . She could have shaded her in a classier way . Still called her late but not a full read .
Deon
2024-09-13 22:30:07 +0000 UTCIt was a fair comment from Anna but at the wrong time. In fact, “The women’s remarks soon circulated online and were picked up by TMZ, which reported on Wednesday, September 4, that Campbell had not arrived late to the event but rather showed up “at the time she was instructed by the event’s producers.” And “According to the outlet, Wintour pushed her presentation to an earlier time slot so that she could attend the U.S. Open in Queens. The legendary magazine editor was spotted in the stands at Arthur Ashe Stadium later on Tuesday.” They both went on to praise each other. Which tbh is well deserved, each impressive in their own contributions
CJ
2024-09-13 22:27:48 +0000 UTCteam anna always, fuck that rotted bitch naomi campbell
L
2024-09-13 22:27:29 +0000 UTCI feel like it’s a similar vibe to someone being late on their birthday, can it be annoying? Yes, but is it the time to call the person out on it? No. Let the woman get her award in peace and drag her in private
lindsey gueye
2024-09-13 22:20:42 +0000 UTCDon’t call someone out if you don’t want heat yourself 🤷🏽♂️
Warner Sivage
2024-09-13 22:11:23 +0000 UTCWas it justified, yes. It was also rude, and probably not the best time to call her out.
Ali Normandin
2024-09-13 22:05:15 +0000 UTCThat part. And it’s the main reason
Rj Williams
2024-09-13 22:03:35 +0000 UTCIt just wasn't the time and place. It was a celebration for Naomi.
Kayla K
2024-09-13 22:00:38 +0000 UTCmmm I think perhaps the execution could have been better, like I'm sure Bob would have phrased it/delivered it in a funny way we can be like "haha, oh Naomi!" but I don't think she's wrong for saying it
Sean
2024-09-13 21:57:21 +0000 UTCGirl, if it was so “prestigious” why not show up on time? 👀👀👀
Ben
2024-09-13 21:55:29 +0000 UTCBoth Bob and Monet were right. She's unprofessional to be late and for so many years. But how petty and extremely unprofessional to call it out during the awards...
Gabe
2024-09-13 21:53:30 +0000 UTCWrong, no. At the event, yes however.
Anthony Minerva
2024-09-13 21:45:36 +0000 UTCI see both sides BUT there's always a time and a place and if AW was at her ABSOLUTE limit with the lateness, she should have turned down the opportunity to present. No need to embarrass that lady at that moment. If it was another event, maybe a general one, maybe one that was about her, then yeah cool but naw. She was shady for this one.
Deekal10
2024-09-13 21:32:59 +0000 UTCIf Anna can actively voice that Rihanna can be late for the Met Gala, don’t expect Naomi Campbell—who notoriously operates under her own time zone—to be punctual for anything.
Ronnie
2024-09-13 21:29:15 +0000 UTCI think she should’ve had that conversation privately or in another environment. Sharing that with a bunch of people who have nothing to do with the situation is crazy, cause like what are they supposed to do with that information? Lol
C.R.
2024-09-13 21:10:30 +0000 UTCCan I just say I love these polls. Really makes me feel like I’m part of the fam 🥹
Marianne
2024-09-13 21:08:49 +0000 UTCNow I feel like anna double booked and simply just wanted to blame naomi
Jennie
2024-09-13 21:04:00 +0000 UTCTMZ STATED NAOMI WASN'T EVEN LATE... ‘At NYC Fashion Awards Show. 9:26 AM PT -- Naomi Campbell was not late to Tuesday evening's Harlem's Fashion Row Fashion Show and Style Awards, despite Anna Wintour's dig ... TMZ has learned. Sources close to Naomi tell TMZ ... the supermodel arrived at the time she was instructed to by the event's producers.”
Jennie
2024-09-13 21:03:43 +0000 UTCThe way I am agreeing with nearly all of y’all about this topic ✋🏽💀
Butdoicaretho
2024-09-13 20:59:19 +0000 UTCNo, she wasn’t wrong, now would I have called her out publicly? probably not. Never do wrong to someone and then tell them how mad to get. Just because you have a reputation for being late does not mean everyone has to be okay with it. Being late is rude and you should be shamed for it
Leauxyal
2024-09-13 20:58:59 +0000 UTCI can’t believe this even warrants this much thought. That was not the time nor the place to call her out about the lateness. She was being messy and trying to embarrass Naomi. Anna’s known Naomi long enough to make a private phone call to voice her displeasure about her lateness. And if she was that bothered by it, she could have easily asked that someone else present Naomi, or could have disinvited herself from the event altogether.
Es Dub
2024-09-13 20:58:17 +0000 UTCNaomi is 100% wrong for being late but calling it while you’re making a speech in her honor is WILD. Anna should have picked another time for that
Cristina
2024-09-13 20:54:42 +0000 UTCIf I was waiting around all day for you and you don't show, I will call you out. I don't care. But I also agree with Monet that it is a CHOICE to continue working with her if this is a repetitive behavior. They're both petty and there is no right or wrong answer.
Breanna
2024-09-13 20:54:12 +0000 UTCAnna only mentioned Naomi being late, to cover the fact she double booked and didn't intend to actually stay at the event, instead was there just to present the award. Just Anna (once again) considering herself the most important person in the room - which she is/was not. Vogue could disappear tomorrow and the world would be just fine.
Kylie Mack
2024-09-13 20:53:43 +0000 UTCThis explanation is chef's kiss
jessica bw
2024-09-13 20:53:05 +0000 UTCI need a I can't decide box to tick !! I agree with you both 🤣🤣
Lynsey
2024-09-13 20:51:36 +0000 UTCthey’re both wrong but anna is more wrong.
John Talley
2024-09-13 20:50:31 +0000 UTCThey’re both in the wrong because they’re famous people with skewed perceptions on what is socially acceptable. Naomi being incredibly late is beyond disrespectful, especially not apologizing to the audience despite what Anna said. Anna calling out Naomi’s lateness was demeaning, and was meant to be disrespectful and petty. Anna can express that’s she’s sorry to the audience that the guest is late to the audience without bringing negative feelings into it. Both of them have inflated egos and were wrong, I feel like any normal person would agree😂 Anna knows Naomi is notoriously late, if she wasn’t the right person for the job hire another person. On the flip side, having a reputation of being late isn’t a good thing, and makes you look very self-centered like you don’t harness respect for others.
mase
2024-09-13 20:44:15 +0000 UTCIt’d be one thing if she was in the audience waiting and then Anna Wintour made a bad joke but she literally wasn’t there
Bre_T
2024-09-13 20:34:30 +0000 UTCI just think it’s incredibly rude for Naomi Campbell to not find it important enough to show up on time to an event that was to honor her. Stop justifying people’s shitty character traits by saying that’s just how they are
Bre_T
2024-09-13 20:33:03 +0000 UTCTIME AND PLACE MAMA
LilBrokeBich
2024-09-13 20:31:14 +0000 UTC#monétion is taking it
aina
2024-09-13 20:30:43 +0000 UTCimo there's a time and place for everything. it felt like anna was trying to embarrass naomi on the night she was being honoured which is honestly just as unprofessional as being late.
Jordan
2024-09-13 20:29:01 +0000 UTCI concur rude card would have been right. Keep it between u two
Marie Antoinette Williams
2024-09-13 20:28:42 +0000 UTCLike I’m so tired of them trying to gather this Naomi very tack very telling
Andres Santana
2024-09-13 20:27:03 +0000 UTCIt’s on every article out rn google it babes ‘Naomi was on time to event” just Jared and this is a direct quote from TMZ ‘At NYC Fashion Awards Show. 9:26 AM PT -- Naomi Campbell was not late to Tuesday evening's Harlem's Fashion Row Fashion Show and Style Awards, despite Anna Wintour's dig ... TMZ has learned. Sources close to Naomi tell TMZ ... the supermodel arrived at the time she was instructed to by the event's producers.”
Andres Santana
2024-09-13 20:26:28 +0000 UTCSo I guess I am commiting voter fraud because I am not currently a paying sibling due to personal reasons. But I'm willing to risk it because Anna was dead wrong. It didn't need to be in that setting and her full comments were so passive aggressive.
jessica bw
2024-09-13 20:25:04 +0000 UTCThis is wild if this is true.
Stocky X Change
2024-09-13 20:24:29 +0000 UTCAlso I feel like addressing the latency could've been achieved in a much better way like making a joke about it or something light hearted but clearly anna is not a nice person like you said about naomi
Jennie
2024-09-13 20:20:52 +0000 UTCThis hamster is putting the incident in the context of all in which it lives mama
Ian Colmer
2024-09-13 20:19:11 +0000 UTCOhhhh where are the receipts on this?! The internet is lying to us once again. Was sis actually on time?
Stocky X Change
2024-09-13 20:18:26 +0000 UTCShowing up “on time” is rooted in white supremacy. There is this fallacy where we are taught to believe that time must equal productivity, and leisure or laziness equals less or no productivity and therefore be subjected to punishment. Anna (as well as anyone who has worked with Naomi), has freedom of choice - whether or not they want to engage and be “inconvenienced” by her tardiness. The fact of the matter is that regardless of how many times Naomi is late, she is still the right person for the job and time and time again, people choose to work with her despite her tardiness. After 30 years, you would think that people have caught onto her MO and can recalibrate and unlearn their expectations. Bob has mentioned Madonna always being late for her concerts - it is what is it. People will still buy the tickets. People will still show up. What’s the use of getting upset if she’s late? She’s proven time and time again that this is to be expected. I just think it’s crazy that Anna, a veteran in her own right, who has worked with countless divas including Naomi herself, acted like this was news and felt the need to take a jab at her on a day that Naomi was meant to be celebrated. Monet is right - why did you sign up for the gig if you were just going to be upset about her being late? Her showing up on time was not on anyone’s bingo card and Anna wanted to act brand new and knock Naomi down a few pegs. Just feels like racial unconscious bias - for a white woman to belittle a black woman for tardiness - as if master expects “the help” to be up bright and early to tend to the fields. This was a sucker punch meant to embarrass Naomi and nothing more.
Stocky X Change
2024-09-13 20:16:46 +0000 UTCI just don't see why Anna needs to have consideration for Naomi when Naomi hasn't had consideration for her..
Tatiana
2024-09-13 20:16:13 +0000 UTCYes Naomi should've been on time but I feel like anna should have just left and had the other person do it rather than intentionally getting up there just to be rude.
Jennie
2024-09-13 20:16:03 +0000 UTCbut somebody else lowkey clocked bob on saying exactly that about madonna, that it's crazy to be upset or even expect her to be on time to her concerts.. which is even wilder since people paid to be there. LOVE YOU BOB THO INCASE YOU READ THIS 💖 Some of the comments are taking it too far
Jennie
2024-09-13 20:13:51 +0000 UTCthis might be the first time I’ve agreed with Monet on these polls omg
Tiler
2024-09-13 20:13:06 +0000 UTCI'm somewhere in the middle but leaning a lot more towards it being un-proportionately disrespectful for ANNA to have said that the way she did during an event meant to honor naomi. Also side note I've watched an interview naomi did of mariah carey in the past and she was nothing but a class act giving utmost respect to her and it seemed really genuine so Idk how I feel about just writing her off as a mean person who's always the problem.
Jennie
2024-09-13 20:11:31 +0000 UTCHmm in my opinion, idk if I can say any of this was "right" or "wrong", choices were made lol so it's hard to reply to this specific poll, because sometimes, like Naomi said, people wanna speak their truth and that might mean starting some shit cause you want to. And if you want to then honestly sure, go off lol knowing the high level reputation and accomplishments both women have, I don't see anyone's career or future being negatively impacted by this moment so the stakes feel kinda low? Just my thoughts!
Babette Perez
2024-09-13 20:10:31 +0000 UTCI get why Anna did it and why she'd be annoyed, but I do think it was rude to say on the mic at the event. She should have just sent Naomi a rude card or something haha.
Amber Soto
2024-09-13 20:09:44 +0000 UTCThats like saying someone can be rude and disrespectful to you just because it’s their birthday. If someone volunteers their time, and is waiting around for you it’s rude regardless of what’s happening, and they have the right to express how she felt.
Matt
2024-09-13 20:06:37 +0000 UTCIt was unnecessary and inappropriate. she should’ve addressed it privately
Kaycoulee
2024-09-13 20:06:26 +0000 UTCShe was wrong, yes. If she wanted to address it, she should’ve given, “I wanted to present this to Naomi but unfortunately I have another commitment so I entrust (name of the person who ended up presenting) with presenting this to Naomi on my behalf. Congratulations, Naomi, very much so deserved, my dear!”
SanD
2024-09-13 20:05:49 +0000 UTCIt's simple, if you do something inconsiderate, people have the right to be inconsiderate back! If it has been happening for 30 YEARS, then c'mon people! YES Anna has the right to call her out!
O B I O D
2024-09-13 20:04:53 +0000 UTCi keep seeing people say anna had no right to be “surprised” and i think those people are willfully missing the point. it’s not that she was shocked naomi had been late (once again). the issue is that it’s been a decades-long problem and she couldn’t even arrive on time for her OWN AWARD that anna kindly agreed to present to her. anna had to leave, and she explained to everyone there that naomi was not present in time to be given the award. it’s not anna’s job to cover for her. naomi is a grown adult. her being late for her own award shows that naomi doesn’t have respect for herself, anna, or the people who attended that event. and to me, that is way more disrespectful than anna playfully calling out naomi on a fact that is clearly already widely-known by the industry. it’s not like anna exposed a deep-dark secret of naomi’s. the people crying “time and place” are ignoring the fact that naomi was wasting the TIME of people who gathered at a PLACE to honor her at that very moment. if you really don’t want to be called out or made fun of for being late then DON’T. BE. LATE. it’s really that simple. don’t wanna hear people complain or be upset about you for being late all the time? don’t be fucking late. expecting everyone to accommodate you every time for you time mismanagement is unfairly demanding special treatment, which is rude. the fact that people who CHOOSE to arrive late to everything believe that it’s some quirky, silly, harmless trait is so dismissive and just further incentivizes their behavior. it just gives main character syndrome and it isn’t cute.
Kerstin Holman
2024-09-13 20:04:36 +0000 UTCI heard Anna rescheduled when she would give the award to make Naomi look late even though she was on time
Lauren Levesque
2024-09-13 20:03:39 +0000 UTCThat was not the place.
Artberto
2024-09-13 20:02:28 +0000 UTCCan yall retell this story correctly please, because it’s being painted that NAOMI WAS LATE TO THIS EVENT AND SHE WAS NOT !
Andres Santana
2024-09-13 20:02:10 +0000 UTCI think Anna didn’t have to say it there but I disagree with Monet on people having to accept what they’re getting from late ppl.
Hunter-Teri
2024-09-13 20:00:16 +0000 UTCCalling her out in front of everyone is wild but being mad isn't. But being late to an event meant to honor you is also wild
Kaleigh
2024-09-13 19:59:48 +0000 UTCi think calling her out was justified but ON stage… ON the mic… in front of the entire audience… i don’t think
elliot 🏁
2024-09-13 19:59:36 +0000 UTCIf she knew Naomi was going to be late and she didn’t want to wait, she should have nicely declined to present her the award. I have friends that are notoriously late to stuff and I would NEVER agree to ride with them anywhere. I have gone as far as to not invite them to events because I needed people to be on time.
Talley
2024-09-13 19:58:29 +0000 UTCI think its a case of wrong place wrong time. If she had something after or even a snarky remark to the manager of the event while leaving that's all well and good but it seems uncouth to do it when presenting an award to someone.
ThatGuy
2024-09-13 19:57:47 +0000 UTCEnd and abolish the concept of celebrities and also the fact that they can't be bothered. I don't think someone who's constantly late on their things has a say on how inopportune someone is when calling that behavior out. Being late itself is inopportune. Specifically, if the case is that the person being late is making everyone else wait and or holding their time.
Aldrin M. Cañals Pérez
2024-09-13 19:57:41 +0000 UTCIt was an event honoring Naomi, the fact that she went out of her way to shame her is tacky.
Nicolas Leiva Herrera
2024-09-13 19:56:35 +0000 UTCTwo things here: We never know what’s going on in people’s lives. She could be dealing with domestic abuse or a sick family member for example. Making assumptions that she’s always late solely due to her being selfish is not fair. While that could be the case, we don’t know. My 2nd point is that it does seem petty for Anna to call this out during this event. If she was that annoyed she could’ve declined to do it. Seems more targeted than Naomi’s actions.
Michael Shields
2024-09-13 19:55:35 +0000 UTCI think "wrong" and "shady" are two different things lol. In this context Anna was definitely shady but she wasn't necessarily wrong to feel how she felt and react to those feelings. I also don't think Naomi was wrong for feeling how she felt and responding in kind.
Joshua Hill
2024-09-13 19:55:09 +0000 UTCthink they're both wrong. anna shouldn't have agreed to do this for naomi if she knows naomi is always late. and naomi is trifling for always being late.
Raymond Arturo Perez
2024-09-13 19:55:05 +0000 UTCImagine shading someone on their day. Speaks volumes.
Richard Ortiz
2024-09-13 19:53:59 +0000 UTCI usually agree with Bob, but Monet is definitely correct on this one. As soon as Anna got the offer to present this award to Naomi. Her response should have been: "You know I would because I respect her work and talent but she's always late and I respect my own time too much. But if I can come and say something I'll come and say something at the event as long as we can keep to schedule."
Tamario House
2024-09-13 19:53:45 +0000 UTCAnna has got all the right to call her out. It may as well be inappropriate, but being late is too. And if I was Naomi I’d clap back as well. That said, no one died, so calm your tits.
Jani M
2024-09-13 19:53:44 +0000 UTCI think it’s def. Shady but like Bob said being constantly late for 30 years is also shady
Mattheus
2024-09-13 19:52:40 +0000 UTCAnna WIN-NER was right… No questions, not up for Debate.. I’m standing 10 toes down!!
Dominique Alford
2024-09-13 19:52:07 +0000 UTCIn the words of Tati, “TIME AND PLACE!” So I do think Anna is wrong for that. Is she justified? Perhaps. That being said, if the entire industry is aware of this, A) why choose to call it out now and not within the last 30 years and B) knowing who you’re presenting, why choose to involve yourself in that situation. You can call Naomi out but girl you knew what you were getting into.
Erick P
2024-09-13 19:51:47 +0000 UTCI think Anna has the right to but she shouldn’t but surprised if Naomi gets upset or doesn’t invite her to future events
Yian
2024-09-13 19:51:25 +0000 UTCI would've reacted the same way to someone who has shown consistent inconsideration for people's time. Whether or not that's messy, I believe it's warranted.
Vince
2024-09-13 19:51:06 +0000 UTCyou kinda ate this im afraid 😭😭😭
Riky
2024-09-13 19:50:57 +0000 UTCIt’s like when plane Jane made rude comments to the other girls, maybe they were true but they were still shady and it’s one thing to tease your friend but if it’s someone you don’t have the base of a positive relationship with. PJ came off as a bitch and so is/ does Anna in this case. Also lateness isn’t a personal affront, even though some on time people take it like that because the lateness has to do with the person who is late not the person they are meeting
Dana
2024-09-13 19:50:08 +0000 UTCShe was wrong because she didn’t want to do it to begin with fr fr. She asked to present the award earlier it wasn’t necessarily that she was waiting she wanted to go the US OPEN. She shouldn’t have said to a multiple things if she’s was going to be tapping her feet and looking at her watch. Why should Naomi have to receive the highest honor earlier because of Anna win tour idgaf how many times I made you wait in the past this is my moment go fuck off and if you about to be shady as hell because you need to watch Tennis I’m sure anyone else would died at the opportunity this was not the moment for that type shit very tacky and tired like her BOB
Andres Santana
2024-09-13 19:49:41 +0000 UTCThis is the one
Nandi Kayyy
2024-09-13 19:49:39 +0000 UTCoh Monetion clearing this one!
Dragon Type
2024-09-13 19:49:02 +0000 UTCI thought you both made good points but at the end of the day I lean towards what Monet said - AW knew this about NC and chose to introduce her for this award, it wasn’t the right time or place to call her out like that
Lauren Smithance
2024-09-13 19:48:52 +0000 UTCin that moment it wasn't about anna. she was honoring Naomi. so If she knew Naomi was always late she could have forgiven her this time because she was giving her honors. And it's time to retire Anna. thank you.
Fanni
2024-09-13 19:48:46 +0000 UTCIt wasn’t just an event, she was being awarded..that’s where it’s wrong for me. Time and place.
Pigpen 🇸🇻🇲🇽
2024-09-13 19:48:41 +0000 UTCNaomi was ON TIME for the event!! Anna had to leave early because she had conflicting engagements, which was to watch a tennis match lol. Anna is absolutely in the wrong here.
Marko T
2024-09-13 19:48:26 +0000 UTCNeither has a reputation for being considerate or gracious, soooo.... who can really say?
Carl Strange
2024-09-13 19:48:22 +0000 UTCConsiering Anna’s past of racism and looking past Black creatives, I was very disconcerted when she called Naomi out while she was being honored. Naomi was not late; Anna wanted to leave the event meant to honor BLACK CREATIVES earlier to attend the US open. It was highly inappropriate, and regardless of Naomi’s punctuality, Anna was not the person to call her out, nor was this the right time.
Dylan Lamar
2024-09-13 19:48:10 +0000 UTCAlthough its rude to be late and disrupt one’s schedule, the effect of shaming her character infront of an audience.. with cameras.. regarding an award FOR HER… is much more rude and disrespectful.
Constantine Vournas
2024-09-13 19:47:54 +0000 UTCThey’re both wrong.. Naomi shouldn’t have been late and Anna shouldn’t have shaded her publicly
Sonia Garcha
2024-09-13 19:47:44 +0000 UTCI feel like she is correct in being annoyed that Naomi was late, but she was wrong in the way she chose to address her feelings about it. That could have been a face to face conversation, not announced to an entire crowd flippantly. But I’m also not losing sleep over it 🤷🏼
Kyle de Arenosa
2024-09-13 19:47:42 +0000 UTCif it’s a known fact that you’re late why is it suddenly rude to call it out 😭😭😭
isaiah
2024-09-13 19:47:10 +0000 UTCIf you have been late for all of our meetings in the last 30 years and I still can have some semblance of a sense of humor about it, you better be thankful that’s all it is and not cancelled gigs etc 🤷🏽♀️
Carmen Guerrero
2024-09-13 19:47:09 +0000 UTCTime and place
Kevin
2024-09-13 19:47:03 +0000 UTCMonetion vote with ur hearts♥️ we have to rise above the bobbleheads who mindlessly follow their leader. That being said we all know Anna was in the wrong♥️
Ian
2024-09-13 19:46:49 +0000 UTCI think it’s more complicated. I think that Anna is right about how she feels, but she shouldn’t discuss Naomi’s character flaws in front of everyone when Naomi is getting an award.
calendarinia
2024-09-13 19:46:49 +0000 UTCIt’s not totally evil but yeah it’s shady, it’s fine to make a joke but it didn’t land/ read like that.
Dana
2024-09-13 19:46:36 +0000 UTCThink Bob should turn up late to every podcast let’s see if monet stays quiet 🤫 😂
William Chapman
2024-09-13 19:46:25 +0000 UTCokay HEAR ME OUT!!! She IS justified in doing it, BUT, it would be more professional on a work and personal note if she had pulled her aside at some point after the event/in the last 30 years and tell her THEN, instead of onstage when honoring her. BUT she was honestly justified in doing so, so…🤷
Riky
2024-09-13 19:46:25 +0000 UTCYea. She didn’t have to be there. She didn’t have to say all that. Especially if she’s already shared that sentiment before, just don’t do anything if you’re going to do it in a bad mood.
Waiu Maad
2024-09-13 19:46:02 +0000 UTCTbh we all have chronically late coworkers or friends or whatever and we Kiki about it amongst ourselves but airing it out publicly like Anna did just invited people who aren't as in the know to dog pile on, in this case Naomi. I wouldn't have done it
Francisco Rodriguez
2024-09-13 19:46:01 +0000 UTCMonet was unhinged this episode
William Chapman
2024-09-13 19:45:50 +0000 UTCshe was justified and wrong. calling out naomi’s lateness is fine but since this is a legacy award for naomi, the time and place was bad
alice ND
2024-09-13 19:45:48 +0000 UTCNaomi is wrong in being late especially after doing it for so long but Anna was wrong to do it there publically, she should of pulled her to the side- but at an event like that it just seemed out of place
Ryan Medrano
2024-09-13 19:45:37 +0000 UTCYep, she could've done it privately and still gathered Naomi. Anna was really messy doing that on stage.
Rai (RS)
2024-09-13 19:45:30 +0000 UTCi see monetion is here swinging the vote
karen
2024-09-13 19:45:12 +0000 UTC
