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Sibling Rivalry: The One About Naomi vs Anna

Sibling Rivalry: The One About Naomi vs Anna

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About the topic of killing someone who harmed someone you love: If y’all haven’t seen the movie A Time to Kill with Samuel L Jackson, you need to watch that

TexErinSydney

All the comments are crazy, if you have a career and a responsibility to be on time that is the bare minimum. Being late and having that much influence and you can’t figure it out that’s crazy

Diana Castro

You should watch Talk to Me - amazing horror movie. Also, I couldn’t finish Deliverance - it wasn’t delivering lol

Raveen Lemon

THANK YOU. i have no idea why Naomi is late to stuff, but like you said, there are many possible reasons and it could be unintentional. i have ADHD and time works differently for some of us. I hate inconveniencing people so I'll keep working on it, but it's always going to be a struggle.

Jen Hatton

Can we please have the audio 🙏

Katie

lets fight Bob!

Eliodoro Castillo

i am traditionally not "Team Monation" BUT on the Naomi argunment, I think Bob is wrong. I will argue Monet's point into the ground. If you walk into a situation where there are established norms but expect it to change for you is INSANE. Calling them out for something they're know for is also, strange. Like baby, this isn't a suprise. Even more iconic that she did it to Ms. Wintor, given both of their stations in fashion and life. Anna set herself up.

Eliodoro Castillo

Agreed - Anna loves going to the US Open and didn't want to miss any of the games. Naomi was not late.

Katie VanEtten

people with mental illness can be deemed “not insane” by the court. Antisocial personality disorder (psychopathy) alone would not qualify for “not guilty by reason of insanity”

Fiona

what if you had a personal assistant (as naomi likely does)?

Fiona

i deal with some executive disfunction, so I understand running late- but if i had the money to afford a personal assistant, makeup artist, stylist, and driver: there would be no reason for me to be consistently late. I just don’t have sympathy for someone that can have all this stuff done for them and still is late.

Fiona

I would love Election Night coverage!!!

Soni Benson

If you disrespect a person in public that person has every right to call you out in public. And yall cant tell me Naomi Campbell wasnt talked to about being late in private. It obviously never left an impression on her before so guess what now the world gets hear about your lateness.

W F

I have to side with Monet on this one. There is definitely a time and place to call someone out on their defects/flaws, in this case Naomi's tardiness, especially at an event that's there to honor them. It seems unfair to judge Naomi for her tardiness given that Anna herself asked for the schedule to be switched around so she could attend the US Open. Naomi was probably on time for her ORIGINAL scheduled arrival and now she's being made out to be the bad guy. If Anna knows Naomi has a habit of always being late and would rather be at a tennis match than to be there as a presenter then don't take the gig.

Sebastian

Hereditary is a fantastic physcological horror movie. and it left me feeling disturbed. .. and I'm team Monetion for this one. If Anna knows Naomi is late all the time..she could've just said, "no. i'm not presenting when she probably will be late. i got other stuff that day."

Parkeezy

Drag Olympics, figure it out! Axe Throwing, Pistol Shooting, Running, Diving, Skateboarding - all in full drag and heels? Sibling Competetory 😘

Mbr

He should have said that to Madonna then when she was two hours late to a show and people missed their train home 🤷‍♂️

Juan Quinonez

No shade Bob, this is low-key hypocritical of you to be on Anna's side because in another episode you were defending Madonna for always being late on tour and telling people if she has a history of doing it then we should expect her to be late lol

MarMar

Curious why this didn’t show up in the feed this week as an audio option?

Edwin Camacho

This is insane actually

Jonny🤎

Some nuance to the lawyer question. Legal guilt is determined by “proof beyond a reasonable doubt” Not guilty verdicts just mean that they couldn’t prove all the pieces of a crime/ didnt follow procedure. Defense attorneys take cases all the time knowing that a crime has been committed and ppl often admit that during the representation. The motive is to force the legal system to put up or shut up or essentially keep it “honest.”

Taylor

Thanks Bob for calling Monet out for playing with his hair. Everytime he has a wig on, it’s pull it to the front then throw it over the shoulder the run your hand through it then pull it to the back again. It’s not only distracting but annoying to watch.

Robert Harrold

So happy to learn this has nothing to do with Naomi Smalls 😂, went into this not knowing wtf the title meant.

M

if Naomi cared about the award sooo much, if the award presented is soo important, and the event so monumental and yada yada, then why is she late? if she’s gonna choose to be late to something so important, then she can be called out on that same stage. like duh

tito

These comments are juicy 👀👀👀… I didn’t realize tardiness was such a hot topic for folks

kiel

Team Wintour

Alexis

Being late is disrespectful, rude, and inconsiderate, but shady???

Belle

It’s very self-serving to take time away from someone’s honor to call them out for being late. That’s not what your duty would’ve been. You said you’d call her out. You’ve made it about yourself because you’re annoyed that she’s late. I don’t agree with you. It’s not a bad take.

Brian Sullivan

Bob is fully right in this. Just … don’t be late. It’s just that simple. Also you are keeping *everyone* waiting who is there to support YOU that is so rude and inconsiderate. Monet you wrong girl

Spencer Viator

You 👏🏽 don’t 👏🏽 want 👏🏽 to 👏🏽 be 👏🏽 called 👏🏽 out 👏🏽 THEN BE ON TIME! PERIOD

Ahmed199126

Did you ask her in front of the whole class like I saw teachers do when I was a kid? Because that’s not really asking a question, it’s a shaming tactic that’s actually not that cool.

Lauren Smithance

Anna’s fashion week schedule is down to the minute.

Clarice Lispector

I expect men to be nice 👀 I absolutely agree with you on the societal level there is a double standard but my take is not “let women be assholes too” but “men should stop being assholes”

Lauren Smithance

but you said exactly what monet said about naomi, about madonna previously

Jennie

WAITTT clock that tea

Jennie

As an ADHDer who is often late I can assure you that is not always the case 😅 It’s taken me decades to figure out how to be on time and I still get it wrong sometimes but it’s definitely not bc I don’t care, my perception of time is just really fucked. I totally understand why folks feel the way you do though.

Lauren Smithance

This is a wild take

Lauren Smithance

Very well said

Lauren Smithance

Not related to this ep but can I just say Roberta ATE on After Midnight!

Daddy Carrot

Audio only version please!!

Raymond Owens

Damn yall got bob and monet defending themselves in the comments lmaooo

spicygayboy

I love how Monet is always so confident that if she's not personally encountered something, it can't possibly exist. There are definitely treadmills that go up to and well past 25% incline. NordicTrack sells some that go up to 40% incline.

Jorge

Love these passionate debates

Sara St. Jarre

I’ve missed Bob’s Bernie impression 😂

Kelly B.

Oh! I thought you were referring to the Naomi v. Anna lolol

Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change

As a theater person, i am perpetually too early, so i just have to side with Bob because when you’re Naomi Campbell and you essentially have every resource in the world available to you to make your life easier so i don’t really feel bad for her getting called out💀 that being said, i do think doing it publicly not only was embarrassing for Naomi but i also think makes Anna look bad and is a poor reflection on what could at least be spun as a cordial professional relationship and that illusion was shattered when Anna came for Naomi like that’s just unprofessional you should have that conversation privately. HOWEVER i do think i recall Bob justifying Madonna’s tardiness re: starting on time on her tour as someone who has also been notoriously not on time their entire career so 👀 Miley what’s good

Alex Adkins

We don't know the exact circumstances, but I agree with Bob on the being late debate. Call them out

Ray Smith

I agree with Monet. don't call me out for being late when you know I'm notoriously late and you wanna be shady about me being late. At my own event at that

Adriiaannn

Rihanna and Naomi have the same billionaire ex lol

M.rachelle

Bob I love you but you're being WILD on this one 😂

@andresjp

My assessment in regards to OJ? The defense did a magnificent job and the prosecutors were inexperienced (comparably) and ill-prepared. You would be a prosecutor just based off your statements lol which nothing wrong with that. They are needed and where they are more progressive and not just trynna put folks in jail 🙄 they can provide adequate just to victims

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🤣🤣🤣

JakeyCakey

This is crazy

JakeyCakey

😆

JakeyCakey

Ain’t nobody justifying Naomi’s lateness. I simply said, there is a TIME and PLACE to do so. NOT at the night to honor Naomi. Anna runs the biggest fashion magazine in the world. Write an op-ed about it if you’re so annoyed.

Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change

Prove it. I need OCULAR proof!! - Mo

Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change

What’s your assessment? Did the prosecution or the defense win? Am I the prosecution or am I the defense? - Mo

Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change

Bob <3, I respect you too much to try and hit a soft spot. I see the comments getting wild, I’m just talking. I was only calling back to a time when you and Monet seemed to agree on this. If it had been Lauryn Hill or Nicki, I would’ve used them as examples. No, Anna didn’t storm the stage, but public criticism, even if deserved, feels humiliating. Naomi being late needed to be addressed, but doing it at that moment was unkind and unnecessary. Public criticism is widely discouraged by interpersonal experts throughout our society, from HR training to schools to couples counseling, because everyone in the room perceives it as an assault on the person’s dignity and self-esteem. And it’s often an intentional power play

Amaru Lewis

I think yall think madonna is my soft spot. she really isn't. lol. Anna didn't storm the stage or any thing. she was invited up. if madonna had a celebrity guest join her on stage, and she was late, and they called her out. . . .okay. If you don't wanna be called out for being late then don't be late.

Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change

I agree they should be called out, but it’s one thing to call someone out; it’s another thing to do it on their own stage, especially at an event meant to honor them. Imagine someone walking up on Madonna’s stage and using the moment to chastise her—it’d be outrageous Using Naomi’s own award ceremony to call her out was an escalation and felt like a disproportionate response. Anna clearly anticipated Naomi being late, especially since she had to leave early herself. So why use this moment to escalate something predictable? Was Anna’s response understandable? Yes. But it felt unnecessary.

Amaru Lewis

how is it confusing? I didn't say you should expect someone to be on time if they are always late. I said it's okay to call them out on it. if you go to a madonna concert and you tweet out "madonna is late" that's not wild at all. Reba McIntyre did it actually. She was late. I bet it was irritating. even if behavior is expected it can still be called out. I'm really not seeing the confusion.

Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change

I don't care if you call madonna out. lol. do y'all think I'm in these street protecting madonna? she is late. people call her out all the time.

Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change

in my opinion, i dont think nepotism is fierce.

Dorothy's Friend

I feel like Bob said it was wild for people to purchase Madonna tickets and expect her to be on time despite 40 years of her not being on time.... so this is confusing

Amaru Lewis

Bob you worked with Madonna who is always late. Would it be okay for you to call her out? Or is it expected?

Eli S.

Bob I am usually on your side but your take on the Naomi situation was wild lol

Cristina

I didn’t do it for free, so what do we do now!? There’s no cognitive decline on my end but a clear emotional deficit on yours.

JAY

Watching this as a criminal defense attorney 🥴 lol

🌻✨💕

This is literally the only time I’ve been fucking pissed at Christopher. Honestly he’s another example of why Black Men hate SUCCESSFUL BLACK WOMAN!

JAY

I'm sorry what? how did I make Naomi's night about me. Some of yall have HORRIBLE takes.

Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change

but also don’t these type of events have certain times their supposed to happen right??? so if naomi is late to the time it’s supposed to be i don’t think it’s unreasonable for anna to be like ok time is up i gotta go 😭😭

ken

Monet is trippin 😂

Gus Marrkand

IDGAF That naomi is late or rude, shes iconic

Jennie

As per usual, Monet is right. Bob wanted to turn the honor for Naomi and make it about herself

Brian Sullivan

Just saying. But. People with certain mental disorders struggle with time awareness. We don’t truly know the state of these celebrities.

Merna I

I’m literally listening to this on a treadmill that goes up to 30 incline Monet 😂

Jake Ralph

Team Anna and Bob. Why does Naomi get to be an asshole and mess up everyone else’s day but Anna can’t? No.

Alex🤎Christopher

Team Bob on this and team Ana

Kristopher Daniel

EXPOSE HER

aina

I guess this is the point of this podcast, but Bob really just be saying the opposite of Monet so that they can argue lmfao

Jack

This argument was exhausting 😵‍💫

Jeffrey Garner

If it was such a prestigious reward and such a high honor the question that begs to be asked is WHY WOULD YOU BE LATE???!!!!

dANNIELLE Clinkscales

I was watching the knicks game . It was during the playoffs and they put the game in a PIP box and the bronco was full screen

dANNIELLE Clinkscales

Smh I've been saying that for YEARS! I watched the trial in real time. If you watch his son throughout that entire trial you'd have thought he was on trial

dANNIELLE Clinkscales

IMO lateness is shade. It says you have no respect for other people and their time.

dANNIELLE Clinkscales

Being late is not shady 💀💀 Bob is wrong about the definition, you can literally look it up in the dictionary, being shady means being sneaky/underhanded - in both queer and nonqueer contexts. If I was deliberately late in an effort to embarrass you- THAT'S shady. But regardless monet is right, it was unprofessional for Anna to say that and she couldve picked literally *any other* time to address it, not when she was meant to be honoring her. If it's been 30 years, you had 30 years worth of opportunities to speak on it. It's not your job to critique the guest of honour on the mainstage, go tweet about it or something - time & place really whooping yalls behinds 💀

burnteggplant

No, Bob, you were IRATE that you didn’t know who was opening, LIVID, just in the red at a 10, 🤬

Paige Johnson

The fact that Anna disrespected this Black woman when she’s getting celebrated is wrong. There’s a time and place and that wasn’t the right choice. Like bffr bob

Ry

Is Monet trying to justify being consistently late for 30 years?!?

Tommy

Not everything is a one size fit all rule... and it's wild to even have to explain that lol!

Terrance Jones

lol like conflating the two is... wild lol.

Terrance Jones

I feel like they consistently say they don't watch any DR seasons outside of the main and all stars anymore

Terrance Jones

two different contexts… don’t do that

Shannan

Being constantly/consistently late is an act of arrogance. Chronically late people assume that everyone else will wait for them. Being late to a ceremony honouring you is wild! Unless she was in an accident on the way there, there’s no excuse.

Ali Normandin

I was gonna say lol bob literally defends Madonna being late saying “you should expect it at this point” Actually I think they might be trolling at this point by doing opposite arguments because there’s no way none of them realized

lea 1617

i understand bob’s argument, but within the context of this situation monet was right. if im here to be honored, don’t make critical comments about me before i get on stage. then come to find out that anna wanted to change the order in which the awards were presented makes this scenario even more ridiculous.

Shannan

this was a lil heated 😭

khaib

Please do a video on election night!!! It's so stressful and watching it last election made it so much easier!

DashesOfRainbow

Bob loves being a contrarian

Ry

I have zero patience for constantly being late. That's an active choice and it's rude and inconsiderate. Do we know how late Naomi Campbell was? If the awards ceremony was 2 pm and Anna didn't have anything until 5:30 pm, and Anna waited until 4 pm and was told Naomi still wouldn't be there for an hour or more, then it was completely justified to call out Naomi. If the ceremony was at 2, Anna had something at 3, and by 2:15 Anna was over it then it was definitely on Anna for having a stacked schedule and not bowing out of one. IMO.

Pete Hoyt

MONET!!! You need to watch American Crime Story! It’s basically a reenactment of the OJ trial. I didn’t grow up knowing that much about it either.

Toni Marrero

Where normal people pay hundreds of dollars for!

Si

Anna was playing PR. Madonna is always late….. Beyonce late… so when Beyonce wins an award for best album, someone should call her out for being late?

Si

Normally, I am on Bob’s side but I think Monet is right here. The context matters here. Anna could’ve simply left.

atj4991

Was Bob not just defending Madonna the other week about her lateness? 😂

Jon Gillespie

once again asking if the episodes recorded during the 2022 tour still exist 😇

aina

I was waiting for someone else to point this out. Saying Naomi "was not nice to her" while we never expect men to be "nice." It drives me up the wall to hear queers and women carrying this misogynistic world view that all women must be presentable, smiley and friendly at all times or they're less than.

Christian

Love that Bob mentions Cleo and Ice spice not knowing they’re beefing rn 🤭🤭

Kay ✨

I read a theory and I believe OJ's son did it, apparently there were phone calls between them the night of, had a lawyer right away/before it was public, lots of weirdddd facts pointing to him

Sean

Also people with certain mental disorders struggle with time awareness. So I’m just saying that if someone is always, like always late then there could be a deeper reason to it. It’s definitely less likely to be just a choice.

Merna I

I think people who are late, don’t purposely try to be late. It is something people tend to need behavioural therapy to adjust, it’s just not something most people see that way.

Merna I

ELSA is not nice, either, lmfao!!!!!!!! Terrible source.

Rondrequel McCloud

Me too, I feel like I see them more lately in that bright blue color

Beth

Monet is right… it was a choice to be there… inappropriate in the context of an honour.

Gary Thomas

monet in this hair is killing me

evergrl

Bob insisting on being messy at an award ceremony, WILD!

Richard Ortiz

This thumbnail is WILD lol

uwubottom

I've been seeing these big ass new SUVs in pretty colors and go, Ooo, pretty. When I saw that mofo was a Bronco! Aw, hell naw. I will always and forever associate Broncos with murder and car chases. Whoop, there it is.

Tearene H

See. It's so nice to have context and back story. Thank you.

Tearene H

I need to start writing down the comments I'm saying while watching, because I can't remember everything as the pod goes on and it's time to comment. Lol

Tearene H

Do you remember where you were when the oj chase was happening? I only remember it was a Friday because they didn’t have TGIF in order to cover the chase 💔

Beth

Bob telling a crowd of people something negative about someone when they’re receiving an award honoring them is crazy. This isn’t a roast it’s not about telling them they’re late but like wrong place and time.

Donnelle

I’m a Bobblehead, but I’m with Monét on this one. Bob talking about being late, BUT it’s the context is an award ceremony presentation. Bob wouldn’t even do that. Fr fr. Bob says it himself, he “LIKES TO FIGHT.” Lol he just wanna argue. Lol

Gus

In the first two minutes Bob explained exactly why me as a cis female struggle to keep my hair laid on a regular basis

Dot

You can tell Bob has been watching FD signifier down all the hip hop facts , saying respectability politics. lol same 😂😂❤️

Andres Santana

Even if a defense attorney would have reason to believe their client is guilty, they still have a job under the court system and Constitution to provide an adequate defense. Not doing their best could be grounds for the guilty person to appeal their verdict. So even if a defense attorney believes their client may be guilty, they still have to do their job because if they don't it just drags the process out longer. And I think it is rarer than the wider public things for an attorney to truly know and believe their client is guilty, they aren't sitting there asking or being told by their clients.

Alex

I am a high school teacher. Once I asked a girl why she was late, first day of school. SCATHING EMAIL FROM THE PARENT afterwards. Apparently its none of my business. Okay...I am 100% with Bob on this one.

KT

Monet continuously touching that hair was KILLING me😫

TequilaTesh

I also implore you to also watch the documentary on Apple TV “THE SUPERMODELS”

Andres Santana

If someone is always doing a behavior then they shouldn't be surprised to called out for being late. So they can do this rude behavior for 30 years but can't be called out ONCE? IDK...not making sense to me.

Nephele

Naomi was not late to her award. Anna was upset that she wanted to go and watch the US open and asked to change the order of presentation for the highest award that was being given to Naomi. Anna was using her privilege in this instance Anna was wrong and she should declined presenting that award who tf does she think she is with her tired ass Bob. I would’ve been like let’s put it up in a bun let’s go face for face always with them glasses

Andres Santana

🎶 America, fuck yeahh 😂😂

Xandii We

Monet please watch Naomi Campbell interview on watch what happens live. Andy cohen asks if everything is good and the response was TELLING. There’s definitely some animosity there

Donnelle

BOMO Law Firm!!! Monet kills me

Dianita D

Right like i’m a bobble head and while I agree with both of them I’m agreeing with Monet more.

Butdoicaretho

There’s a lot you can say about Naomi, but people are making judgements without this piece of the story!

Cocotte

Monet is right. It felt disrespectful especially because they were honoring her

Ethan Bracken

you guys should definently do another election night coverage live i’d love that so much

gavin tolliver

Team Bob! Team Anna

Keyon Alexander

Not Monet victim blaming lol “you chose to be apart of it” Use that logic with narcissistic abusive relationships.

Keyon Alexander

#teambob #teamana

Johnny Arellano

Bob you ate that!

Johnny Arellano

I'm Monetion but I'm #TeamBob #TeamWintour

Sean

that vote.gov plug was so smooth

Bec Lewers

I came here to say this!

ezra

when are these anything you can do happening??😭

Marquis

AFAIK the run of show was set. Anna was to give Naomi her award last in the line up of honorees. Anna then wanted to change the run of show at the last minute so that she could give Naomi the award at an earlier time. This change was to suit her schedule. Mind you, this is not a Vogue or Condé Nast event, but an annual independent fashion event for Black people by Black people called Harlem Fashion Row. Naomi showed up at the original time to receive her lifetime achievement award. At that point, Anna was spotted in Queens watching tennis at the US Open.

Cocotte

me!

Marquis

MONET DONT LET COLLEEN TAKE ANY UNNECESSARY JOURNEYS TO SPRINGFIELD ! They’ll eat ha 😫

Cowboycarterennaisaance

People call her out all the time. and I don't care that they do, because she's always late. I think you're confusing me working with madonna and loving that she is always late. Valentina is always late and I still like her. Everything in life isn't a sum one game.

Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change

The moment I hear a women described as a diva (as a pejorative in that 90s way), a bitch or unkind that sends my red flags up just because you never hear a man complained about in that same vein. That being said, Anna Wintour is notoriously all of those things. So her remark shouldn't be surprising. But, Naomi is the most successful person ever at what she does and came from a minority community within a minority community with a single dancer mother and Anna is the definition of nepotism. So yeah being late constantly is shitty but I will die on the Naomi hill everyday compared to Ms. Wintour.

Christian

Its also disrespectful to the venue, facilitators, the audience, etc. Naomi makes a daily conscience choice to be late. Its just not professional

Joseph garcia

YALL HAVE TO DO THE LIVE ELECTION COVERAGE! lmao i wasn’t here was the last one 😭

Coen Little

But what about when Madonna is late, where the same energy?

Joshua Hunt

Monets argumentation I disagree with. When I was young my brother would provoke me and my mom would say that I shouldn't let myself be provoked by him and I used to say, why can't he stop provoking me?

JakeyCakey

Naomi seems to be the common denominator

JakeyCakey

Being late is shitty and people can be called out for it in my opinion

JakeyCakey

LOL I agree with both of y’all. Every time y’all both speak i’m like “EXACTLY” 🤣🤣🤣 Time and place yes but also you ain’t at the place at the time soooooooo

DeShawn (@frootytreblez)

Well for ME, I love advicery 🫶❤️

Rebecca Luchok Charlson

Hard disagree that it was appropriate for Anna to call out Naomi at the award ceremony. If this was a modeling job, if Anna was paying Naomi to be there, she has every right to point out lateness. Yes lateness is rude & impactful. However, the job was to honor Naomi, the audience is there for a positive experience. It’s contrary to the spirit of the event for Anna to offer that piece of information. She didn’t say it in a funny way, she said it in a critical way. Monet is right, if Anna doesn’t like Naomi just say no to the gig. Naomi should’ve been shown more politeness at an event literally meant to HONOR her!! Regardless of whether Naomi is a bitch; regardless if she’s late; the presenter should still do their presenting job politely & appropriately. Or say no to the job.

Rebecca Luchok Charlson

BOMO LAW FIRM I AM LOSING MY MIND

Brett Gorges

Big Robert Downy jr energy 😂

Kaycoulee

Yall watching DR Phillipines 3? One of the best seasons of DR in a while

Gabe

Also Monet being so wrong about saying Anna is at fault for knowing that Naomi is always late has converted me into a Bobblehead

Pablo Lopez

no advicery! who cheered

d

The way I run to the link because I was fully expecting this hot topic

Cassander Mistrelli

They got Law Roach on the Pod??

Danny

Inserts meme of black girl falling "seated" into a chair 🤣

Rahsaan K

doing my homework with this on means i wont learn math but i will be educated in cuntry

Conor digan

Ok Monehontas!

multiculturist

Yall keep me fed I love you queens and Jacob for making my workdays bearable 🙌🏽😍

Pablo Lopez

Ooooh it’s about to get juicy

multiculturist


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