Patreon Exclusive: Tamisha Iman Is Coming For Views

same lol

Erica Dilworth

This is one of my favorite videos to rewatch 😭

Talley

Drag her!!!

DopeyTwixter

i know im late but... not Bob "publicly" inviting them in a patreon exclusive

Social Sloth

Hi baby

Ale

this beef is so funny to me... i can't stop laughing.

Holly O'shaughnessy

Soooo what ever happened with this?

Eric Wong

Lol Hi Bussy!

Joey Lopez

im a pretty good judge of character and I've been watching y'all for awhile. you guys don't come off as mean spirited at all. you guys are giving your opinions about people who are putting themselves out there for critique, but you guys make it funny! she's taking it too seriously. if you think about it in its entirety y'all are MEN in wigs! its never been that serious, its all just fun and enterTAINTment!

i dont understand why monet has to defend and explain her opinion. she said what she’s said, get over it. and tamisha deciding to read monet and bob for not liking what she wore on the runway once or twice is just gross negative and completely unnecessary. like gurl. it’s really not that deep.

You're both super self-deprecating and even handed with criticism and making fun of people. I never feel like someone is the butt of a cruel joke but rather mocked in the same way you tease each other. I *guess* you could say that any critique or joke encourages fans to try to make the same critiques and jokes - and obviously, lots of fans miss the mark and cross the line - but I don't think you encourage that actively and I'd be surprised if many (or any) Sibling Rivalry fans were the ones in Tamisha's mentions giving her shit. Queens that can't laugh at themselves never fare well on RPDR to be honest, and I'd see this whole scenario as part of that, rather than anything you guys specifically are doing. And as for fairness, I thought you cut Tamisha more slack than Rose, Tina or even Kandy, and mocked her with the same fondness you had for them. Queens you actually don't feature (Elliot with three Ks), generally don't get much attention.

i agree with everything you said but being a big enough fan of bob and monet to be in this patreon means you are not unbiased in any way.

yana loo

Well said, totally agree.

badbishoujo

Embarrassed for the vixen tbh. She knows she doesn’t have to burn bridges with every human to ever exist?

Lovey

Sorry for the essay, but I hope Bob or Monet gets to read it and see an (attempted, at least) unbiased perspective on the situation.

I don't usually comment, but no you are not bullies. A bully is, according to the oxford dictionary, is "a person who habitually seeks to harm or intimidate those whom they perceive as vulnerable." Tamisha is vulnerable, as you guys explained, due to the pressure the show casts onto its participants. However, not to your comments. Part of going on to the show (as is shown by the obligatory press tour, which even included Monet's show, and the actual WOW produced shows such as fashion photo ru-view) is accepting that people will view your content and respond as they will. Not all of that response is ethical or valid, but Sibling Rivalry most definitely is. Every critique is an honest opinion from one of the girl's perspective as previous show contestants, fellow queens, and all around people. In other words, no critique is given with any intention to the queen herself, but only to provide people who like to listen to Bob and Monet with their especially unique opinions. Intention aside, even, Bob and Monet have had a positive impact on Tamisha's career and public perception (which her complaints stem from): Bob started a campaign to increase her instagram followers, both bought her products and encouraged their fans to, and told their fans (on this very podcast) how impressed they were with not only her performance, but her as an indivisual. Therefore, Bob and Monet are not people who "sought" to "harm" Tamisha, or even people who accidentally did. Tamisha has every right to feel bullied, but the real people who she feels vulnerable to are the negative commenters online and the overall fandom, who (I presume) are seen by the contestants as in control of their future (ie, when the fans hate a girl, her career can be ruined by threats, decrease in audience - how drags queens,directly and indirectly make money-, and lack of opportunities. For example, Phi-Phi O'Hara.) Perhaps the fandom seems too abstract or large to critique, but critiquing Bob and Monet seems illogical when they were the first two who would have helped you with that in the first place.

I can’t believe how far this went. I was waiting for someone to say it was a joke. 😂 you two aren’t bullies. Not even close. Thank you for doing and sharing what you do. I love y’all! ❤️

You two absolutely aren't bullies. You gave equal praise and critiques. She says she gives zero fucks about what people think about her but then will go in and review all of Monet's looks because she is upset about what was said about her. This is contradictory af.

I do not think that you guys are bullies. I respect Bob The Drag Queen as a comedian, and often times comedians read or "clown" people. I think Monet is more of just that like goofy friend who makes awkward comments on the side but she's adorable. I think Tamisha is bitter that she lost and that she is trying to capitalize on the fact that you all are two Black queens from the franchise that are favored. She is entitled to feel what ever she needs to feel but she's giving big Tyra Sanchez energy these days. It's getting her attention but not the good kind.

I have listened to this podcast for a long time, even back during the rough times lol, and I feel like you both have always been respectful while critiquing queens. Also if you can't read yourself how can you read anyone else. I have felt that you both have always been pretty open to criticism to which you should be able to review others as well. Maybe the miscommunication is the people who have not listened to the podcast long or heard the way you both talk with each other and taking what you said out of context.

The reminder should say this is only for Patreons so please don't share on YouTube...because we dont need to feed the drama.

M

No! You critique everyone and say positive things and read things. You have not been malicious. Tamisha did not have great looks in some challenges which the judges said. Some people might like her looks and some might not. You did not say anything nasty.

Please continue to do what you. The two of you are funny. I’ve never found you to be malicious or bullying.

Oh lord I'm a week behind!! I don't agree with every opinion (it would probably be weird if I did) but I don't see any of the discussion on watchery as bullying.

Bob has been a tamisha stan day one. Literally promoted the tamisha iman shoes and got her to 100k.

Monet looks good!

But is it ok for to make tik tok clips?

Prvnce Jawan

I have been talking about this on my tik tok. I just feel Tamisha is trying to use Bob and Monet's popularity to her advantage. I was trying to like her, but considering her age I feel she disconnected from reality.

Prvnce Jawan

This is so crazy to me, I literally became a Tamisha fan BECAUSE of these Siblings! All I saw was love, respect, jokes and maybe a lil shade but that's the show and the humour of it. She took this way out of context if you ask me.

I’ve watched you critique Tamisha and I think she’s being a bit extra. At NO point has Monet shamed her as a person, just read her outfits which frankly did come up short a few times! Ms Iman is a fierce queen, no doubt. A survivor, an inspiration, icon and legend. But her drag ain’t perfection and the way she is coming for Ms Monica specifically seems puzzling. I can’t help wondering if she is piggybacking on Bob and Monet’s audience for the publicity. I mean it’s not as though drag queens never pull stunts and shenanigans! My concern though is that her stunt could rebound on Monet, who IMHO has never been out of line in her reads.

Kate

I think the big thing is the hate comments and DMs the queens get from the fandom. I find it hard to believe any one of the siblings might have sent anything bad to her, but if she has a receipt of someone saying “Monet and Bob told me you’re trash on Patreon“ then maybe there needs to be a discussion about who’s part of the siblings. I don’t think you guys are bullies but you might need to have a talk with tamisha and address some people if they’re putting harm out with references to you 🤷‍♂️ Love you both, don’t let this shift your energy or goals 💜

Krimsin Rose

Honestly, I see no difference between the critiques that you guys gave on your show and pretty much the same critiques that raven, raja, trixie, and the other guests on the pit stop gave on their shows as well as all the other queens with review podcasts. You guys had every right to do your show and give opinions of the queens this season, just like everyone else. You gave everyone pretty much equal critiques AND compliments on their outfits/performances (except maybe Joey and Rose lol). Don't change a thing on YOUR show because it's so funny and lighthearted and people who don't get that need to grow up.

Robert OReilly

So is there no longer a 2 part podcast with Tamisha?

Lol I screamed

jguy

Not monet on Stereo just now saying Tamisha and Vixen are trash. Bob cannot mend bridges faster than they burn

Jordan M Badeaux

The way Bob started cry laughing because Tamisha has Monet blocked is SENNNNNNNNNDING MEEEEEEE. I AM CRYINNGG.

OMG please don’t change anything you guys are doing ! You both have literally been my source of joy all the way in Australia 🥰 love you both

I love how Bob almost explained living in Atlanta again lol

jguy

this shit is especially wild considering that when violet and trixie tear every single queen to shreds it's all shits and giggles and when bob and monet do it they're aggressive bullies trying to tear queens down

omg please continue to share your opinions as you have been!!! yall are funny and nice and throw the best shade at times. it's never in a bullying way and i would hate it if you were to start filtering yourselves. LOVE YOU

Sorry it wasn't my intention to submit a thesis haha

Off topic: What happend to the Exchange Rate?

Christian

Tamisha launched a network charging folks 15.99 & 25 dollars. She came out with the best merch ever. Period. She shook up the whole fandom and got everyone speaking her name. That is a serious business woman who has had no problem putting the focus on Kandy or Monet to increase her relevance. But I support it. What has my head scratching is why it became such a big deal.

You two honestly bring me so much joy & I've never seen you as bullies. I think your review shows are fair and funny. You happily drag yourselves & each other even more than you do others too. Bob also introduced me to Tamisha Iman sneakers that I then went & purchased.

I just find it to be very goofy af bc everything that Tamisha has said is a contradiction to what actually happened or what bob and monet have said. And the part in her video where she said she was going to bring on the real authentic black queens on her show is just dumb. I liked her, but now it's just too much. But you guys are not bullies at all.

1,000

Dzevad

oooo bussy shade in the caption? 👀

saj da

❤️❤️love you guys!!

And Joey Jay out of nowhere only to back up someone that gave us the exact opposite of what she said was going to happen🙄🙄 looking stupid

Cush

ok wtf is going on TODAYYYYY . idk if im overreacting but im disgusted by how people are treating bob and monet 😐😐😐 not elliott speaking on it too like aren’t you supposed to be in diversity training ??????????????? i cannot with these people’s brain cells 😭.........

patreon account

Nevermind it's on now

Cush

AND 3Ks ENDORSING IT?????? ..I-

Cush

you're not bullies at all, i really love how honest you are with your opinions while still keeping it funny! i hope all this doesn't change that

Tamisha's show just started an hour early! The intro is so dramatic lol

Kylie Mack

And let the Cousins see it lol ❤

Richard Gambles

Omg please tell me you are doing a viewing party for the Tamisha Iman Show 🙏 🥺😂

Richard Gambles

literally I love you both, you’re both hilarious and your playfulness and hyperbole with each other and everything is incredibly funny and endearing. I respect you both so much and I’m smart as fuck and also cool, okay so that’s worth a lot

Not someone blatantly ignoring the request under this video! Just seen a clip of this on TikTok 🙄

Y’all are not bullies and also, she clearly doesn’t like ppl talking about her joke or no joke, with or without follow up praise. *shrugs* what can you do. Hopefully she can come around to apologize Bc I could see ppl looking at her kinda sideways like “lol okay girl anyways who can really take a kiki?”

Ur not bullies keep doing what u do change nothing. Also even this 'feud' thing yall doing is contributing to keeping me sane and entertained in these times so thank you and thank you to Tamisha we love all of you <3

Sasha

notice i had to look up who the vixen was...

I've been waiting all day. Where is Tammisha's video???

I literally lost count of the amount of contradictions Tamisha spewed in her livestreams, sometimes in the same sentence! She’s entitled to feel how she feels. But the way she’s acting is out of line in my personal opinion. What happened to “it’s not personal, it’s drag”? I hope everything is able to be squashed after her youtube video.

In my opinion, Tamisha has gone on Drag Race assuming that she was going to be worshipped as a goddess, and she wasn’t. She is PISSED off because of it. She performed fairly poorly, and her looks didn’t match up to what Symone and Gotmik were presenting. The fight with Kandy was a massive red flag for me. Kandy annoys the hell out of me, but did she deserve that level of animosity? No. All because Kandy saw Symone as a bigger threat that her. And openly saying that she would have hit Kandy, that’s a no. That’s borderline sociopathic behaviour. I understand it though, she is a legend, she has been doing this a long time, but that doesn’t excuse this type of behaviour. Respect is earned, and should never just be expected. Bob and Monét went way harder on the likes of Elliott, Utica, Tina, but despite the MANY supportive and positive comments they gave, Tamisha is going for a takedown. She’s pissed off, and she’s lashing out! Sadly she has a platform and can do it on a massive scale. Everything she has called Bob and Monét out for, she’s doing herself on a bigger scale, and honestly, it’s kinda sad to watch. I hope everyone can talk it through, and work it out.

https://www.iamtamishamonet.com/

Y’all are not bullies. It’s just your honest opinion. Hell, y’all go harder on Rosé, Elliott, Utica, and Tina! I can’t wait to see what Tamisha has to say tonight. And I can’t wait for y’all responses.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CObMFhNpjiu/?igshid=1qy5b5u48dqy3

A. Christina

Why don't Vanjie and Silky like Bob?? 😂😂

Sof

The Vixen part annoys me because Monet was right there supporting her black girl magic by performing and being apart of it. if you were so anti black why would she even have you be apart of it?

Somebody on Reddit said "What if secretly this whole time Bob was writing the reads for Tamisha about Monèt today" and then someone else replied, "PLS I would live and die" 🤣🤣🤣sksksksksk

THIS!

Mallory Wharton

it's up on YouTube sis x

Waiting for that video collage of tamisha commentary because I have a bad memory. I couldn't remember yall even being actually shady towards her. I hope she finds peace I would still like to like her... her story is amazing, this is working against it.

Edie

I don't listen to Sibling Rivalry to hear you boringly like every look and performance without much of a real opinion, if I wanted that, I'd watch Fashion Photo Ruview ;)

Bob and Mo, I love you two a lot! No, you're not bullies, you give your honest takes and Kiki like queens who've been on drag race and comedians would do, you're very transparent and give a whole opinion without much bias, please don't filter yourself because of negative reactions. Don't sacrifice your authenticity to not hurt queens feelings, they should know not to check your reviews if they don't want to hear that kind of content, but we the fans love it. Keep doing you boo! Love Maya x

Am I the only one who thinks tamisha is going to look at your guys looks from the show and talk about them? Like I don’t think she’s really going to “come” for you

I got on the stand in my moot court class and told the defense to "drag me" so I get it when Bob says it's just part of her lexicon now.

Today's the day. (It's been 4 months since I ordered my Tamisha Iman high-tops)

You guys are not bullly at all. Yall are real new yorkers and people dont understand that. The two of you are very playful and equal opportunity. Blair St. Clair and Rose have more reason to fake gripe than Tamisha. Truthfully its just weird for Tamisha to be mad at you. I was really hoping she came on Sibling Rivalry as mother. Now she like mean auntie you cant play with.

I think you should sign the shoes and auction off for a charity.

You should do a video where Tamisha and Monet play Wii Boxing 😭😭😭

We love u Monet !!!!!!!!!

Markee

I just felt the need to drop a comment and send Monet tons of LOVE!!! She's been getting heat for the antibiotic conversation and now she's getting attacked from Tamisha. I'm a huge supporter of yours, Monet. Love you! This is crazy. I actually liked Tamisha on the show and felt like the producers gave her a "hero" edit. NOW, I'm not really interested in anything she's doing because she decided to join the queens who resent the show. I thought she was mature enough not to care what other people think but, even if she says she doesn't, getting offended by a bad review when you are an entertainer shows that you can't handle large amounts of attention with grace. Bob and Monet continuously get dragged for their looks on their seasons and laugh about it all the time.

Monet is so right because it was Bob who made me like tamisha

Thank u for providing me with some straight up gold entertainment all weekend lmaoooooo

There’s so much talk about how Monet says good WITH the bad, and it’s HER Opinion... true! Sometimes tho it’s HOW something is said... When I’d talk back to my mom as a kid it was all about HOW I SAID WHAT I SAID, and mom would snap me back in line because while my opinion was valid, she thought the WAY I responded was out of line. Sometimes the TONE of the drag race review shows ( NOT JUST THIS ONE) is sort of OLDER SIBLING dogging younger siblings vibe, THEN in turn the outside world (fandom) believes it’s okay to share that same tone in their critiques. EVERYONE is entitled to their feelings and opinions, but her POV isn’t too hard for me to understand on this one. Love you BOTH! ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

din

I don’t think either of you are bullies. It’s your opinions and y’all give props where it’s due all the time...Tamisha is clearly hurt but let her ride her 20 min wave🤷🏽‍♀️

Jeanette Carter

Became a cousin today just for this 🐸🍵

Here's what happened: Monet gave a critique, the fandom got in Tamisha's inbox, and it bothered her. Y'all aren't bullies, it's the toxic ass fans. She said it "you aren't in my inbox".

Honestly i saw the IG post and my heart dropped, to me it came off as super defensive and a bit 'bully' traits. i really don't think anything you guys said warranted the reaction you are getting.

I thought “reading is fundamental?” There’s literally a challenge on the show about it! If anything, Tamisha is casting a pall over the sport by being a bad one.

Timothy Rawles

you’re overstepping.

This made my fat ass laugh so much! With that being said... my cat has come for me harder than either one of you have come for Tamisha.

Ok I clearly have been to busy lol. Im trying to get ready for a wedding doin nail and makeup run-throughs and making press ons lol. In the words of Bob the fucking drag queen THIS IS WILD!!! LLAMF WHAT IS HAPPENING!?!? I don't understand why Tamisha is mad. If I was her I would be too happy and grateful for beating cancer to be mad at anyone. Like seriously. That is a blessing that not everyone is lucky to get and she's out here acting a nut. Idk maybe I'm crazy 🤷🏽‍♀️

La Toya Williams

Not a boxing ring... LMAO.

Not a Google doc

I think you aren't bullies. You keep your critiques on the costume or the performance. You've never been like, "Tamisha is garbage," or "Tamisha is a terrible person." You aren't making it personal. You are keeping it on the performance/outfit, etc. Tamisha is taking it personally, but that is her business.

Denise Rodriguez

Seriously I was turned off from Tamisha after this incident. It's just so childish and juvenile to engage in such petty behavior...

Opinion: Tbh, I don't want your content to change, but, presentation wise some of the shit y'all say I can see only being appropriate in community. Not with all these white folks watching. The stuff said about the Vixxen's hair, I've heard people say about other's or even about me, but it wasn't ever in front of white folks that can and WILL take it and run with it. I respect that in this moment you are continuing to highlight the importance of showing that these disputes are not grounds to vilify, dehumanize, or not support a Black Queen ever. Tamisha deserves her flowers, and I'm glad that y'all are all still taking your authentic stances, no bullshit. <3

JoJofrmSeattle

This is the only podcast with two winners who else can comment other queens looks

everyone has already said everything I want to but I love u guys so much, I am a long time drag race fan but stopped watching for a years when I was in college. I found out ab ur podcast bc of the sherry vine incident (ooopp) and I am SOOO happy I found it!!! I love u guys so much like ur podcast is literally my comfort podcast. I don't wanna go on more bc I could for so long but I did just wanna voice my support for u slores!! we all know that we all know that tamisha is a lil out of reality and none of her accusations have been valid, but of course I also understand that Tamisha is in a really rough position in life, mainly with her health. That could be making her act out who knows, but Monet ur doing great sweaty, just continue to be the bigger person plz (w poise and grace) ok luv u bye

Allie

I became a patreon for this

i’m sorry y’all but i lowkey love being able to say “Tamisha Iman is coming for you” in the real world cuz i randomly say it at home all the time. 😭😭😭

Also! “Hurt people hurt others.” I think it’s pretty obvious that Tamisha feels hurt (even though she claims she’s not bothered). Once again, it’s unfortunate and embarrassing to see Tamisha going out of her way to “fight” and “make an example” by saying that she’s going to focus on Monét to teach her and others a lesson. What does this accomplish? (...other than the obvious of attracting views to her channel?) It’s totally OK for Tamisha to feel hurt, frustrated, slighted, embarrassed, etc BUT THIS AIN’T THE WAY to move forward. Once agin, it’s unfortunate to see. If Tamisha was smart, her video on Tuesday would be an apology and acknowledgement of any hurt or frustrations she may be feeling AND to then publicly ask for help from RuGirl alums to help her navigate where she wants to go next. ...then, do weekly chats and drawing back the curtain on navigating the biz as a RuGirl and the pageant scene. Spill the tea AND spill some knowledge!

I went out of my way to become a fan of Tamisha BECAUSE of Bob and Monét. I also overlooked a lot of her hypocritical commentary and actions, as well as styling choices that are not normally my cup of tea, out of respect to her as an elder (no shade intended) and number of years in the business (...which is something that Tamisha CONSTANTLY touts and demands to respect her years in the biz). What has baffled me is that Tamisha is demanding instant respect, support and flowers from other RuGirl alums, but NOT ONCE have I seen her give flowers/shout-outs or retweets for her Season 13 peers, other RuGirl alums, or even all of the drag kids she claims are in her dynasty. It’s super disappointing to see so much intrinsic talent being clouded by what appears to be a history of burning bridges, self-alienation from anyone she deems as challenging or critiquing her, and a simple lack of openness to continue learning and upping every aspect of her craft. I truly hope that Tamisha doesn’t implode herself and I truly hope that she finds a better support system 🙏🏼

...I wonder where libra is in your chart

My friend's are honest when I am not my best and I appreciate that.. Also it is your podcast!? Like photo ruview has been harsher for stupider reasons! But she is in her feelings.. you guys are handling it well though!

Tess Danielson

idk if you guys are necessarily bullies, it's hard for us as the viewer i think to understand how we'd take it personally because being critiqued as a contestant on drag race is something we'll never experience or understand. but, if it's anything to go off of, i know personally i'd be offended i think by the comments, but i'm kinda sensitive i guess in general. at the same token though if it was in a situation where i'm personally putting my art or craft out there to be judged then i'd need to just suck it up and accept some people just wont like my sh*t. does that make sense? i think a good way to look at it is like imagine your friends have this bit and joke they say about you that they only say when you're not around them, and you somehow found out about it via a recording and you had no idea about it, you'd be a bit taken back? then again this is y'alls job and its not like you personally went after tamisha; it was a joke we were all in on. its just a big misunderstanding.

Vincenzo Russo

Tamisha’s comments really broke my heart because i was really rooting for her and i loved her on the show. I feel like if she was an actual listener of the podcast then none of this would of happened. Ya’ll should’ve listened to lalari!! Haha love your both!

I love all these queens involved. I will say I have been a huge fan of Bob & Monte for the get, because of their personalities & honesty. I don’t like when someone goes left field talking about the podcast when they haven’t watched it in full. If they had, they would clearly see that a lot of praise is given on sibling rivalry/watchery. I don’t want any of this to stop the fun and honesty of watchery bc I truly love it.

Bob and Monet, I just want to validate every point you’ve all made here, which I agree with. I think Tamisha is definitely hurt so she’s definitely hot and in her feelings, but just as her feelings and opinions have a right to be expressed and heard, so do yours. I don’t see what you all have said about her in regards to her time on Drag Race as anything more than an objective critique from two beautiful queens who have experienced first hand what it’s like to be on the show. Also, I definitely replayed the beginning of this just to hear Bob’s uncontrollable laughter because it gives me life. 😂😂😂😂

Gaby Castro

Bob and Monet, you two are hilarious and your Watchery reviews have brought me nothing but happiness to your viewers in this shitty time. I'm sorry but if you put yourself in the public view on a reality tv show, you have to understand that you can get critiqued by podcasts and other forms of media. I'm sad that this is coming from Tamisha when Bob has done nothing but praise her. Keep on going, you're doing great sweetie!

Hayley

Yikes too far

Liza

Drag and comedy go hand in hand for a lot of performers and for the larger community. The fact that some people are too insecure to understand the difference between coming for you and comedy is why Ru Paul’s Drag Race and the Sibling Rivalry are so important. Keep kicking ass you sickening hoes ❤️

I understand where you’re coming from, but I think there is also a huge race component to this as well that you may not be taken into account (and perhaps won’t understand), which could add to the insecurities (and bullying) that person may be feeling and is constantly subjected. Not saying that Tamisha (or The Vixen and any other queen jumping to her defense) is handling it in a healthy way, but I don’t think their feelings are at all invalid. We’re on the same page there. Also, the fans are literally to blame for this beef. Someone clearly put together a supercut of Monet and Bob’s “criticism” out of context and sent it to Tamisha. That partnered with whatever racist remarks they said about Tamisha set her off.

I am getting so well fed on this day 🍿🍿🍿

Honestly, Tamisha is entitled to her opinion and to feel how she feels. That being said, it almost seems like misplaced anger. Having watched and listened to every Sibling Watchery, there was never an ounce of unfair criticism. It also comes with the territory unfortunately. If you were looking to be received in nothing but positive light, drag race was not the place to go. You will get critiqued in every aspect of life, especially after being on TV. It does take a toll on the BIPOC queens more, which I get but I really don’t get why Monet is at the forefront of this attack. Idk what’s going on in her DMs but “fans” get messy or think they can cut up and kiki the same way the queens do and it just doesn’t read the same. Overall would LOVE to see y’all have a conversation with everyone. ESPECIALLY the Vixen because I want to see the logic behind the rhetoric

THIS! Read their racist asses for the cheap seats in the back 🗣🗣🗣

To the fans, DO NOT use Bob and Monet’s opinions to go spread hate to The Vixen, Coco Montrese, Tamisha and other black queens mentioned (or unmentioned). Too often, many of you are closeted racists who pounce on the first thing your favorite says about a black queen and use that as an excuse to dislike, bad-mouth, invalidate, defend your own racism, and spread racist rhetoric (explicit or not) about other “unpopular” black queens. The calls are coming from inside the house. We see you, and y’all are not as slick as you think you are.

If you put yourself on TV you’re welcoming critiques of your performance on that show. If ya’ll were dragging her personal life or family or something that would be different, but respectful opinions about a public appearance should be expected, she must be coming for Ru next

Monet we got your back, gonna grab that ostomy bag

Ashvir Mohan

I feel like Tamisha had an expose planned after the finale but then realised that the NDA does not expire. Hence she needs something to create a stir in the mediaverse

Ashvir Mohan

Her “complaining” worked she got a whole show dedicated to her, plus the audience for her upcoming show😂...slick-ish 😌

I do think Tamisha is suspiciously sensitive, I smell a stunt 🧐

I came to see and subscribed for a year to see if the Imans would just come straight from the ceiling and do a splits right onto Monet when she arrives in Atlanta

Luna Newyear

Violet and Trixie’s Pit Stop may have been one of the most insult-comedy driven episodes out of all these review shows. They were super shady and the gays ate it up. I don’t get why, on the other hand, Bob and Monet are being held to a crucifix. Y’all legit PUT me on Tamisha so I don’t get why she’s fighting back at her supporters.

I love Tamsiha but this is a publicity stunt. Sis needs to redirect that energy

Ashvir Mohan

ready for drag race celebrity boxing tbh

i think tamisha is definitely overreacting and im especially shocked at how many queens from the show have gotten behind her about this considering you two always have positives and negatives to say about EVERY queen and in no way has it seemed like youve singled tamisha out in any meaningful way other than things that were clearly meant to be jokes , which again you do with plllenty of queens on the show . That being said i cannot wait for tamisha to Tear into monet like a piece of brown cow steak on Tuesday and i hope for entertainment’s sake that she will not find it stunning ❤️ love yall :P

Daniel

I agree, but I do think a lot of that frustration is the show/fans showing favoritism and pushing forward certain black queens, leaving other black queens to feel undervalued and invalidated. They do this with a lot of minorities on the show, and I think that’s something that should be addressed. This may be slightly off topic what I’m bringing up, but relevant to the conversation.

Yes, come for everyone who do the review shows. I feel Violet (for instance) said way worse things on the Pit Stop 🤷🏾‍♀️

That's your opinion though, that Kandy's peacock look was the worst. It's fairly obvious they thought the tree look from Rosé was the worst, so of course they critiqued that one more. Literally everyone picks favorites and has preferences, and that's ok. I actually love Rosé so I definitely disagreed with a lot of what Bob had to say, but it's all subjective.

Ashley Moreno

Finally a Patreon, came here for the tea 👀👀👀

Ashvir Mohan

Monet! Just know that I got ya back bc we cousins and if you fight in one of us you fightin all of us!

this was by far the funniest video i ever watched of yall!!! I can't stop saying drag her now! & I don't yall mean, yall just have an opinion like every other trillion ppl in the world !

Kristen Banks

Not saying the following as a personal attack. Tamisha Iman is clearly a heavily damaged and traumatized person who’s problems with her SELF prior to being on rpdr have only become bigger. As Oprah say/: “Fame is just a magnifying glass for what you’re grappling with in that moment.” From my perspective she has displayed a lot of disturbing behavior including her apparent addiction to negativity, hence the many fights and arguments that she either put herself in or started WITHOUT a real reason. ...

Lashaaawn

Wow. The perfect title (“coming for views). Just saw this post from her today. I’m sad that she thought using her allies was a smart way to go about this. https://www.instagram.com/p/CObBXHSLNWl/?igshid=1woqafsknaez7

Sonia Dawson

Who’s been starting shit? It was Bob the Drag Queen all along, and he dragged Blair too!

Tamisha is just creating drama to get more followers & views imo, she cannot seriously be that 'pissed' about what you guys have said.

Same lol.

I’d been thinking about becoming a patron but putting it off and I have to admit that what pushed me over the edge is I’m messy. I love y’all so much though and I’m excited to be here!

She can't, it's blocked😂

jessica bw

Tamisha is definatly taking things too far

“i hope that if the vixen does come on she doesn’t just get up and leave” MONET YOU DID NOT-

drag queen boxing matches? monet x change is about to get her ass beat.. for charity

wow this is the PERFECT comment

Lmfao this is a "is this the thanks that I get for putting you bitches on???" moment for Monet

You aren't bullies. I feel like your reads are never mean-spirited and you don't pile up on one queen, you make fun of everybody including yourselves. It's super unfair she's hating so hard on Monet, out of proportion imo. I'm glad Monet is laughing about it, I know she's a kind person so I didn't want her to take it too hard. Feels like Tamisha is now bullying Monet! That being said I'm loving this tea and rushed to Patreon for this lol

Rosie

the "drag her" speech impediment is contagious! I also started doing it all the time xD

Alice

What would happen if Monet just made a sincere apology and let it be?

ƎИYЯ

Yes

Unintentionally they might have been. I hope they read my message on the community board as I’ve explained what could be the issue.

Suzanne Smith

Tbh i can't remember a single moment when ya'll were insensitive about tamisha!! always uplifting i thought? if you guys made fun of anyone it was rosé lmfao but it was NEVER coming from a nasty place! always lighthearted, fun, and unbiased across the board. it's very evident she just can't take critcism. it's upsetting that she feels the need to revenge monet and read to be hurtful, not a kiki, which is exactly what sibling watchery is imo

Coco Montrese, The Vixen, Tamisha, they are all black, and I think they are a bit jaded about thier after show experience. Maybe they are a bit jealous of yall success, in the terms of they may deal with a lot of negative fans that love yall. Idk they are misguided though lol

I hope there is a way for you to call Tamisha privately to work this out before Tuesday.  Someone hacked into Tamisha's store last night. These "fans" are just being crazy and trying to find other things they can go after Tamisha for.  I feel like no matter what happens, Bob and Monet will be fine, your careers will be fine, but I don't feel that for Tamisha.  I feel like she will not come out looking good on Tuesday, and I feel nervous about what the drag race fandom will do - they can be so brutal.  I just feel sad for Tamisha at this point, even though I don't agree with everything she's saying. I see her as someone who has probably had a lifetime feeling undervalued, and that probably comes out in unproductive ways sometimes.  I know you both ultimately have nothing but love for tamisha, but you may want to intervene in a more direct way with her because I have a feeling Tuesday will not go well for her. To me, it's always the fans that ruin it and take it too far. 

IJS

It’s interesting the question that Bob said how “is it ok for Monet to give her opinion on Tamisha and Tamisha give hers on Monet” this is absolutely ok. Everyone is entitled to that opinion. What is wrong here is that it’s not what was said, it’s the fans and their reactions. Tamisha tweeted about the DMs she’s been getting about fan reactions. Probably a bunch of negative ones just like many of the DR girls have encountered. I don’t think she’s upset so much with what Monet said but I think it’s how the fans take those opinions and then making the narrative. Then for some damn reason weaponize to attack y’all. I hate this. Even when my friends are like “I hate this queen” I’m like why? Have you Sean anything outside DR of this person? Don’t feed into that narrative. It’s nasty.

Cleto Barrera

Oh my god. This whole thing is insane!!! Timisha what the hell did you think was gonna happen when you went on drag race!? Y’all were so sweet and supportive of her ❤️❤️

totally destroyed it. lol

nay nay

I see it so clearly now Monet all the things you were trying to tell us about Bob lol. He instigated this. Bob poured the gasoline and lit the match for this beef lol and is just sitting back laughing manically like a cartoon villain. Only siblings do that to each other lol

I might be bias because Tamisha is a legend, and I don’t want her coming for me, but I understand her frustration a little bit. Y’all are big queens and what you say are weaponized against queens. But that’s not a Monet issue, that’s a fans issue. I understand the frustration but it’s misplaced.

Even tho they also praised her, anyone that isn’t a fan of Tamisha’s will focus on the negatives they say in an absolute manner and will run with those, causing tamisha to live in this bubble of only hearing negative comments that come from Bob and Monét’s mouths

Bry & Griff

I feel like Tamisha and Vixen’s greater point is that we live in a time and place where Bob and Monét as influencers in the drag race fandom have the power to give fans verbal weapons to go and attack/invalidate contestants’ drag, and black queens already get the worst of it so it’s harsh to see popular black queens giving ammo against less popular black queens

Bry & Griff

Im confused as to why Tamisha is fighting criticism with more hateful criticism. Seems backwards and against the point of her message. If her problem is really the unfair criticism that she believes she has been receiving, her problem is not Monet, Bob or any review show...it's the nature of the show in general.

Darian Flores

Not Bob with the wheezy bulldog laugh 😅

Laura Howenstine

Bob's comment in one of the videos (lmao there are so many) about Violet and Trixie being far more negative towards Tamisha and the other S13 girls is so true. Like, yes Bob and Monet were not exclusively complementary to Tamisha, but they weren't exclusively complementary to anyone. It just feels strange to single in on Bob and Monet when there are WHITE queens who have been much worse. I am not trying to shit on any of the queens, but I am confused why Bob and Monet are the only target here.

Katherine

Is a anyone listening to Coco Montrese on insta live with Kimora Blac? This is getting hella messy now. Everyone needs to move forward, cuz this is ridiculous. Making major drama out of nothing. Smh.

Sarah St. Michael

Tamisha was a big (ish) fish in a small pond before Drag Race. Now that she is a (very) small fish in a big pond, it seems she doesn't know what to do with herself. Add that to the retweeting of pictures of women with guns making threats at people who are "coming" for her ...... She is seriously a hop, skip and a jump away from having the FBI called on her for making Tyra style terrorist threats. I hope she enjoys the obscurity she is clearly destined for.

Keep doing what y'all are doing!! We stan and support because you both are funny, smart, open and always make it clear to critique the clothes and performances and not the actual queen. The best part of Tamisha watching your video is the first part you guys are going in on Joey Jay and even Joey Jay pointed it out on her post, so clearly you're not singling anyone out. This is probably why Raja and Raven toot and boot in 10 seconds now, instead of going in like they used too because the fandom and the queens are getting in their feelings too often about a show that literally judges them to win or lose. Hopefully she will come on your show and things can be squashed because I love Tamisha too and sad it's gotten this far.

PISSED!

David Grimes

And for real this has been pissing me off!! Vixen trying to say racist when I think it's actually pretty fucking racist to insinuate that two successful BLACK queens are only successful because they sell out to white people..?!??? As if Monet and Bob aren't successful because they are talented and interesting and funny and have good energy?!?? like this shit pissed me the fuck off and I don't even really know y'all like this 🤣🤣🤣

David Grimes

The vixen saying money is anti-black? What the actual fuck. That actually has me really mad

You both are entertainers and hosts! These are the topics of discussion, with open and honest dialogue! This industry pokes fun at certain things but without malice. Bullies???? NEVER. Two real ass bitches...??? ALWAYSS!!!

I just feel like some queens act hard but actually really have THIN skin. so if they don't get 100% support then they're going to want to fight and act a fool and call people any type of names. and I think that's EXACTLY what is happening right now in regards to Tamisha and Vixen

David Grimes

I think it’s a lot of white fans taking stuff out of context and being insane in Tamisha’s inbox. When stuff gets clipped out on Tik Tok, i feel like I see a lot of mess that misses all of the context. And Twitter is just a terrible place.

DJ McIver

I do not view Bob and Monet as bullies. Like drag race itself, I see watchery in particular as a show that does not take itself too seriously. In fact, I looked forward to watchery more than the actual show because it was absolutely hilarious. And at least the opinions are coming from drag race alumns (winners at that) so there is a basis for their opinions. It makes me sad that other queens are taking this so seriously and using it to undermine the great work that Bob and Monet out out there in the community. I mean even the classic sibling rivalry seeks to explore a lot of important and sometimes serious topics that other podcasts do not so it’s unfair to pigeon hole them as haters/bullies when they have so much content out there that actual uplifts, empowers or otherwise provokes some thinking. And I commend Bob and Monet for inviting all of the queens on. I am anti-censorship broadly speaking (might be a good topic for the pod - censorship?!) so I love that they are looking to discuss this rather than

Bullies? Naw. Like others have mentioned above there are plenty of other Ru girls that critique the queens on drag race and they don't receive little to no backlash over it but when Monet and Bob do it's suddenly a problem. 🤔 Also, in my experience it can be tough for strangers to understand that you're not coming from a hateful, jealous, etc. place if you're a playful person.

Anthony

I have seen ALOT of people referencing Bussy Queen’s video about the S13 contract and they’ve applied it to ALL seasons (i.e. saying Sib Riv is under WoW). I love Sib Riv (and other Drag Race podcasts) but even when you haven’t liked someone’s looks it doesn’t seem like you’ve read them down. Besides Tina Burner. Rightfully.

Conor Mitchell

I haven’t seen the Tamisha vids yet but just wanna say, a roundtable on criticism esp “within the sorority” or “within the field” would be SO interesting, not to mention applicable far beyond just the context of Drag Race queens! I hope someone takes you up on the offer.

... what??

Cynethia Williams

So queens cant read other queens anymore? ... work

u guys are just honest and that’s honestly the reason i love the show so much u tell ur how it is but also r so kind

not bullies, she must be taking things out of context. yall both told us you ordered her shoes. tbh she got glowing reviews on watchery

Y’all are doing nothing wrong

I think I know what’s causing this, I left a comment on the message board about it. I hope they will see it as I actually feel for Tamisha. After seeing the YouTube video I totally get it. It’s not something Monet has done on purpose, because he couldn’t have known, but it must have hit Tamisha really hard to hear these comments.

Suzanne Smith

honestly the only thing I can think of is that Vixen and coco already had beef with Monét (that she wasnt aware of) and that they are just jumping on any occasion to go after her... sad

Jeanne Prince Thomassin

And I just don't get how Vixen n coco can be on her side. Some fans, okay theres a lot of dum RPDR fans but queens ?? Black queens ?? "uhr gross"

Jeanne Prince Thomassin

Vixen is right about the not pro black thing unless it was Tamisha who wasnt being pro black. She said Monét is not the one but im going to make an exemple out of her... So of allllll the people you chose to go after your black sister ??! bitch byyyye

Jeanne Prince Thomassin

im so mad dafuq is wrong with her ?? Cuz yes we are all untitled to our feelings but her feelings are wrong periodt. It just doesnt make sense !!

Jeanne Prince Thomassin

F*ck them folks! Keep doing y'all!!!

definitely not bullies... my best friend and I talk just like y’all do, maybe we are bullies LOL

Simone

If we are going to qualify your podcast content as bullying, we have to do the same for drag in general. I think you all have the right to express yourself and it’s up to us, the viewers, to decide what we want to watch.

Tamisha is that girl that is mad at other people’s success and u can tell someone asked her who does she think is gonna win drag race she said she basically doesn’t care about who wins because she doesn’t like world of wonder. That was her perfect opportunity to give “praise” to black queens. Khani and Simone. You can’t get mad your looks was bad ma ma

Markee

The term “Bully” is SOOOO far removed from what it originally was years ago. Y’all Kiki, y’all are simply critiquing a show and all it’s elements. NOT JUST ONE QUEEN, y’all speak on EVERYONE. Aside from that, if someone believed this is “bullying” then baby they’ve simply never been truly bullied before 💯 I don’t wish that on anyone, but the hypersensitivity of this whole subject was literally started by one person who believed that just because she’s been doing this for 30 plus years that she’s an exception to the criticism, no matter how QUESTIONABLE her looks may be. Reminds me of when Latrice kept going on about how she should be taken all the way to the top of AS4 JUST BECAUSE she’s beloved in the drag world. No baby, no.. This program isn’t about how many years you got under your belt. This program is about what you got to show us NOW. A hit dog will holler right? She wanna rant about her legacy as an Icon that she rightfully is, then just let the work speak for itself girl!!

Sylvia G

I do not think either of you are bullies. You both tend to provide more constructive criticism to the queens than the judges on the show. You can absolutely share your feelings, especially when you are not here to tear someone down. I have a very similar sense of humor as the two of you, and it has gotten me in trouble with people who do not quite understand it, especially with sarcasm. I love Tamisha, but she is being one of those people that says “I am grown and I am unbothered” but is now being hurt and upset and going about it the wrong way. I feel like everything you both say is in jest and it seems like that went over her head.

No y’all definitely aren’t bullies. Tamisha just doesn’t get y’all humor. Of all the people dragging her y’all were one of the few who uplifted her and influenced others to show her more love and support. She’s suffering from delusions. It’s that simple.

trixie/violet/other whites are way meaner lol, anybody who chooses to criticize bob & monet before those bitches... ?? to me it seems like bob & monet as Black queens are being held to way higher standards than the white queens and that's not fair or right.

Becca James

i am so taken aback by the vixen's contribution to all of this claiming bob & monet are not pro-Black because they critiqued a Black person's outfit on drag race? by that logic why is it pro-Black to be vilifying bob and monet like this? truly don't get the difference and there is no sense to it

Becca James

Although, it’s their right to monetize their content, I do agree with your stance. This should have been public because not everyone will have access to the truth which can lead to causing more harm than good.

I have a background in culture and literature and I write. I also wrote a lot of reviews and have done several book juries for prizes. For some people critique is a gift and that’s also how I see it. When someone tells me both what I’m doing right and wrong I can take that into account when I’m writing something next. I can build on my strengths and I know what I should work on to improve. It keeps surprising me that there are quite a few people with a creative profession who don’t see things the same way. I understand where it’s coming from though. If someone is insecure and doesn’t value themselves, there are people who don’t or can’t honestly acknowledge this, but pretend they feel amazing instead, so this confidence is actually false (sometimes they’re not even aware of it) and every little bit of criticism to them is proof they’re not good enough. That causes them to feel even more inferior and this adds to their shame, which is probably what causes these extreme reactions. I try to take that into account when someone reacts badly, it’s usually not the person critiquing (unless it’s actually bullying, so meant to hurt, instead of constructive) who has the problem, but the person who’s feeling attacked. I don’t think it’s a nice way to feel, so I actually feel bad for the person who gets angry even though their reaction might seem way too strong or even outrageous or irrational. I think that’s also going on in this case.

Suzanne Smith

Tamisha needs to listen to Arrogant by Tamisha Iman

Guy

mood: Monet kissing cat toes mid podcast

I don’t think any of your commentary is punching down on the queens, so I don’t see it as bullying🤷🏽‍♀️. I do pay for your content, so I do have my biases, but if your comments are fight worthy then so are race chasers, WOWs toot/boot, the pit stop, etc. There is something to be said about the sway that your voices have in the drag race world (Tamisha released a video about shipping delays for example that now makes a lot of sense to me), but again that could be said about many drag race queens. So to make it about your blackness doesn’t really make any sense. Bottom line this feels misplaced and silly.

I just think tamisha is the queen of marketing and riding your coat tails for views for her new YouTube show. I’m not mad about it, it’s just part of our current fake outrage culture now which is getting overplayed and yawn boring

Lmao bob butchered tf out of my name 😂🖤

Joshua Legér

There’s no way you guys are bullies, literally everything you say is always jokes and light hearted and I think tamisha is just so serious and can’t see the funnier side. She clearly hasn’t listened to any other episodes either.

I listen to your content with my partner in the room, and the things I am cackling at he thinks are mean. But he's too sensitive. So, keep it up, Bob.

I bought my t-shirt in February... Still don't have my T-shirt from Tamisha :(

Vixen needs to shut the fuck up and sit down. Her name is always attached to being problematic and weaponising her race, she thinks she's an activist for Black issues particular Black drag queens but her viewpoint is linear and reductive. I want a whole episode putting Vixens idea of activism through the fucking ringer.

Freedom of speech does not exempt us from suffering consequences on the basis of something we say. Everyone is entitled to be able to voice their own opinions, ideas and views, however, once those statements are voiced, one cannot expect people to not voice their opinions back or call out these individuals for their negative comments. Let’s be real, I don’t think your critiques were as bad as people think but you can’t disregard other people feelings because of what you say. Also drag race fans are ruthless, especially towards the other black queens. You already know the support is not the same for black queens. I feel like a conversation is needed and to move on. Verzuz battle Tamisha Iman vs. Monét Xchange 😂

Her trying to say you're not black because you aren't from 'the projects' not only is terrible as she's saying blackness is synonymous with trauma but also insults everyone (including myself) who didn't have that experience. Black policing needs to stop, it's ridiculous and is insulting to the black community. We are not a monolith.

lindsey gueye

Ps there is obviously a big insecurity on her part as she is posting videos saying she is an unbothered icon/legend BUT IMO She’s been badly treated by rpdr (she 100 percent shouldn’t have went out when she did and tbh I would be fkn butthurt about that too - especially since her you tube videos etc are now being blocked for ‘speaking out’. What my point really is; she’s facing the aftermath of drag race as an outcast standing my her art and the principle she wasn’t fairly depicted on the show and consequently being punished for it on an international scale. As someone who is an artist and someone who relies on that platform to earn the coin and retain the respect she deserves - that’s a very scary and overwhelming position to be... so I 100 percent empathise with her even tho her coming for YOU is wrong, just directing the anger towards something easier ? Which doesn’t make it right but idk idk poor gal

firstly, not CocoMontrese piping up after she was showing nothing but teeth when miss two T's called symone 'black girl magic without the aggression'. Also you're not bullies, you have opinions and what they really wanna say is they don't wanna hear them. Alll this 'icon' and 'respect your elders' talk is archaic, respect comes with respect, not when you demand it. And quite frankly I've lost a lot of respect for Miss Iman after all of this. SHE'S THE BULLY!!!

lindsey gueye

I love Tamisha, I’m quite sad that she’s took your jokes as reality HOWEVER I think the reason she is coming for you guys is because there’s a handful of fans that have took what you have said literally and popped into her dms to give her hate. Obviously, that isn’t your fault as you don’t control anyone bar yourself , but I think as an overwhelmed queen, new to the international stage she is projecting and directing that upset towards you because she isn’t sure where else to direct it? It is a shame really but I hope that you are able to sit down and have a conversation and sort it all out. At the end of the day we are all Tamisha stans but she needs to realise that by using venomous dialogue like questioning your blackness, or setting dates where she’s going to tear you down - she is fuelling the hateful narrative just as much as she *thinks* you have.

Yall aren't bullies. You're not picking on people (except skinny yt twinks 😂 kidding) you talk about their clothes and add opinions here and there. I wouldn't be paying to support bullies.

jessica bw

Tamisha coming for your Blackness and then The Vixen piping in with this bs??? What the actual f*? I'm really confused at how Bob and Monet are not black and then anti-black.... gtfoh. Where is this energy for Raja, Raven, Trixie, etc? So yall coming for Black queens only. Got it. This whole thing is confusing and upsetting.

jessica bw

Yall gave Tamisha so much praise ! Especially Bob. Hopefully it's just publicity or something for her channel

You both are Love personified and were clearly being playful in your critiques on the pod, that's why most of the responses here are that people were laughing out loud listening to you. People acting out about this obviously feel attacked and/or bored. Thanks to y'all I even ordered some Tamisha Iman merch at the beginning of season 13 (which hasn't arrived yet and is somewhere in limbo... now I'M getting annoyed).

the thing is, you guys have always said your honest opinions and even then you’ve never said anything out of line. you’ve also never blatantly told your fans to go attack another queen because of something they said or did... tamisha cant say the same for herself😐 i just feel like if tamisha and the fans want to drag you guys, specifically monet, over some critiques on a podcast then lets keep the same energy for every single queen thats ever been on the pit stop, fashion photo ruview, bootleg opinions, and every other drag race recap/review show ever. no shade but i think if you aren't able to take critiques then you aren't ready to take your drag to the international level that is drag race. you can be the most well known, respected person where you come from but when you step out of that there will always be people who expect more. i respect tamisha’s career and what shes built but she showed very early in her season that she can dish it but cant take it. love her story, but no.

Sibling rivalry and this Patreon has quickly become my favourite thing to watch each week. You’re not bullies, you’re honest, respectful and funny don’t change a thing about your pods! You know you’ve got a great show on your hands when drama comes your way. Two words for the haters “DRAG THEM!”

Will & Tanner

I do not think you're bullying, and people throw that word around too much. You guys are honest but also just irreverent and fun. You clearly love drag and all these girls (except Blair). I like hearing your real opinions on the drag - it's not all sweet and complimentary because you guys have different tastes and honestly, not every girl is on her A game every week. and tbqh every time Monet makes a tiny little critique of some girl's outfit and Bob is like DRAG THAT BITCH, MAKE HER RUE THE DAY SHE PICKED UP A FAKE LASH FOR THE FIRST TIME, I lose my shit laughing. I honestly hope her live on tuesday is just her being like THAT IS HOW YOU MANUFACTURE DRAMA and laughing right into the camera, and that's fully what I thought it was at first until she started getting weird about some concept of real blackness...

Miss 3 K’s is in Tamisha’s IG story rn too.

Sarina Faye

I never felt like you guys were bullies when critiquing at all but I wanna suggest that asking us patrons might not be the most helpful since we’re clearly bias and love ya enough to pay money for more content from you 😅 y’all are honestly the only ones with stan energy towards Tamisha amongst everyone reviewing.

Angi Bitao

I don’t think you are bullies. And I really like how you give your honest opinions! I also really like Tamisha Iman. But it seems like those clips of Monet were taken out of context. All someone has to do is listen to the podcast

Y’all should make this one PUBLIC and upload it so the whole audience can see that this isn’t to create any harm or malice towards Tamisha..... rather it’s just part of y’all’s own opinion towards the show.

Playong off what you said. Anyone consider she can't talk about WOW basically for life without legal issues due to contractual agreement. That may include Phot Review, Pit Stop, etc soooo Monet/Sibling Rivalry was the free reign option.

Elia Mascorro

part of being on drag race is expecting that fans and queens alike are going to share their opinions. you aren’t the only queens who do a podcast/ review show. you aren’t bullies because like you said the comments you make aren’t biased and they aren’t saying that fundamentally any of the queens are ‘bad queens’ you’re reviewing their performance on a massively produced reality competition show. for the record if any queens should be annoyed it should be the likes of rosé and blair st clair who received much harsher critiques on your review shows 😭 i think tamisha is has clearly taken things out of context and is ready to blow them up because as lalari said - tamisha likes to fight!

the thing is is that you're not critiquing them as people, you are critiquing the work they put out there and if it is not for you, it is not for you. every artist is subject to difference of opinion. as an artist you either need to ignore the critique and carry on doing what you're doing or address it and come back better. I think in this instance she knows some of the stuff wasn't her best, but thinks she should get a pass. it's not like you've been massively favouring one or two queens REGARDLESS of what they do/how they behave (ahem, RaceChaser Pod).

The conversation of irreverent humour is really lost here I feel like. Y’all are usually being satirical, sarcastic, or just plain silly. In my experience, not everyone loves that sense of humor or understands it. The reason why I love y’all so much is because you joke and communicate in that way. It’s why even a white girl from Connecticut like me related to seeing Bob on season 8 and Monét on season 10. I can’t speak to y’all’s life experiences (just going off what y’all have shared) but I feel like kids that have gone through loads of trauma either end up coming out of it seeing life as something whimsical and see through the matrix of it all and some come out hardened and need everything to fit in certain boxes. I feel like that’s where Tamisha is at. She doesn’t see it as a silly kiki, she’s taking everything very literally. It makes me sad as well bc she clearly has people talking in her ear in a bad game of telephone telling her things y’all have said completely out of context. As a messy Leo I love this drama but ultimately would love to see y’all talk this out publicly so the fans that have been fueling this can see that you can lay things to bed and not get so nasty.

why don't vanjie & silky like Bob?

Jussy

I’m really confused if Tamisha feels some type of way about it or not? She says she doesn’t care but puts all this effort to clap back. It just seems beneath her to be pulling this, cause she is an “icon” and a “legend”. She’s entitled to feel however she wants to feel but I don’t know what she was trying to accomplish from this? Attention? She could’ve just asked for a shout out, and I’m sure bob and Mo would’ve gladly had her on the podcast even before the “drama”. If she felt disrespected she could’ve asked them to just not talk about her...It seemed more divisive and drove more unnecessary hatred toward her. I felt like it’s a self fulfilling prophecy of being a victim when you instigate negative attention. Also, the Vixen trying to spin Monet as anti-black because they might have differing views is so toxic and weaponizing blackness that way really hurts the cause. That’s like putting her in the same category as Candace Owens. And as for Coco, idk why she’s jumping in when we all turned a blind eye to her agreeing with Elliott’s BLM aggression comment.

kskaj

Well. you asked for our honest opinions, so I'm going to give that. Before I do, I want to say I LOVE both of you SO much. This is literally the ONLY patreon that I'm willing to pay for, and as a poor person, that's a big deal for me. But, if I'm being honest, when I was watching the sibling watchery throughout the season, I DID often feel that Monet was being unnecessarily critical towards Tamisha, particularly considering the importance and impact of her career as a Drag Legend. (As a sidenote I do also think Bob has been a little unnecessarily critical of Rose recently) That being said, while I did feel some kind of way, and because of that can understand where Tamisha is coming from. I do feel Tamisha might be going a little hard right now. But also, I'm LIVING for the drama from both ends, and anyone in these comments saying otherwise is probably lying. The conspiracy theorist in me who understands how PR works also wonders if behind the scenes this was a staged "feud" (possibly just because I love all three of you so much I hate to think that any of y'all are REALLY mad at each other). At the end of the day though, I will never stop supporting any of the three of you and think you're all amazing.

✨Lux✨

Its all SO crazy - her fandom is LIVID lol

Kylie Mack

Just so y’all know, people are giving full recaps of this on social media.

As a long time cousin, I can confirm that the only queen that sibling watchery llc has ever "dragged" is Blair st clair lmao

BENG

omg

chris

I became a patreon just for this and it was 100% worth it, i love both Monet and Tamisha, i believe Monet did nothing wrong🥺

My 2 cents - if all you only have compliments and high praise it devalues the positive. Like when you shop online and see product with 100% 5 star reviews that's super suspicious. Having the positive with the negative solidifies the positive and is what makes the show interesting

Ok in my opinion Tamisha blew this out of proportion. She went into it with a biased perspective since she was disregarding the support and good comments you have made to her in the past. She focused on one clip and dragged it out. Also being in the drug community she should be able to take critique. Like cmon girl :/

bella bunni

According to Tamisha her merch store was just hacked, and Monet & Bob fans are being blamed. This is getting ridiculous. Considering many of Tamisha's fans have been waiting for months for her merch - if it was hacked, it could just as easily be someone just wanting their sneakers lol. https://www.instagram.com/p/COZdJaHlzwS/

Kylie Mack

Y'all are NOT bullies I am sorry but THAT LIVE......how tf is she gonna watch y'all two talk about her in such a playful/loving way and then go FULL DELUSIONAL on Monet......and the shady ass comment "some of yall have one" like she would be reading Bob if he hadn't her season.........I'm sorry but give me whatever drugs she is on.

YES

bella bunni

tamisha just proved shes the real instigator of all her beefs😭

Abel Reyes

Thiiiiiiiis! I wanted to know the same, she is so pressed to attack another black queen but let all the other white Ru girls slide on their critiques?

Dixenia

Monet said she would wear Tamisha out

I hope this doesn’t cause y’all to change the way you give critiques to queens, it’s just drag!

I don’t think you guys are bullies at all. One of the reasons I love you both is because of your honesty and being true to yourself. That is hard to find especially with black creators. There are plenty of drag review podcasts but you guys are the ones being pointed at. Idk kinda sus to me. I don’t deny that Tamisha has dealt with some things while filming but the energy is being directed at the wrong target.

So first thing’s first: Tamisha opened up a really great conversation on how our community (black) can better respect the ones that came before us. Tamisha is a legend, so in her eyes, it’s probably a slap in the face to be talked about negatively (SOMETIMES!!! Sometimes!!) in the same lineup as people who in her opinion aren’t in her league, and by people who aren’t in her league. She really paved the way, and feels that she doesn’t deserve to be put into those “toot it or boot it” categories. I truly don’t agree that you guys are even bullies. These podcasts are for you and us to kiki like family with no judgment. I guess if sibling watchery or rivalry were patreon exclusive, there would be less people giving unsolicited opinions about how you are and what you say if they don’t even like y’all like that? Hope this made sense, love you guys!

Remember to report any uploaded clips on youtube

As a brown queer guy myself in professional spaces I can say, there’s no obligation to gloss over another brown persons missteps simply in the name of solidarity. It seems that people to the likes of Tamesha and The Vixen have this unrealistic expectation that just because you two are also queens of colour that you aren’t supposed to acknowledge errors of other QOC. Favouritism doesn’t enable advancement, honesty does.

Christopher Spence

Not Monet trying to KO miss Iman?! 😂💀

Bob really the first born in this duo.... saying some mess and then watching it unfold from the sidelines while the younger sibling gets ripped apart by their parents😂

I really saw bobs tik tok at 1AM and dragged my fatass out of bed to get my credit card and download Patreon with such motherfucking QUICKNESS😅

So many other review shows, (and I do watch/listen to a LOT of them) and out of all of them yours is one of the nicest...honestly I’m surprised Monet is the Queen she chose to come for...

Amber Ibanez

in my opinion it seems that some of the girls are jealous that they don’t have the same following as the two of you. they are allowed their feelings obviously but it seems like a reach to get some attention. which i guess is working... but it’s a weird take. also making an entire show about monet seems like a lot of trouble for someone who doesn’t care about what people say.

Drew Joseph

Bob's wheezing 'Mutley' laugh kills me every single time!!! Had me in tears within 30 seconds 🤣🤣🤣🤣

R S

Like... all tea, all shade - I wouldn’t stress over a “legendary” queen that makes Nene Leakes quotes to sound like a hood b*tch. Clearly she ain’t legendary enough to come up with her own original quotes, and evidently her claim to fame is her drag daughter, not HER drag 🙄 Like GTFO. I would GENUINELY understand that she’s coming from a place of hurt and feel empathy for her if she wasn’t so full of herself.

Tamisha needs to bring it on down three notches 😂 y'all love her and lived for her 90% of the time. Just because y'all give a critique, it doesn't mean we're all gonna agree. Hell, there's been so many times y'all have given bad critiques and I would wholeheartedly disagree with you, or vice versa! If you ask me, she's insulting drag race fans' intelligence. We can think for ourselves and if she's mad that multiple people are saying a look wasn't great, it's because it wasn't great, not because that's what we heard from this podcast. Ma'am 🥴

girls...you are not bullies, this is being taken way out of proportion in my opinion

Fernando Michea

At the end of the first video she kept bringing it back to coming for any rugirl with a review show, so I’m curious to see if she’s going to read Willam, Alaska, Trixie, Raja, etc. vs just focusing on the Black queens. I was hoping to hear more about y’all’s thoughts on what she said about the girls giving the fans license to read queens on the show, but it was an interesting point that she buried in a whole lot of mess!

You are NOT bullies. Truly.

y’all have me dyingggg! y’all are not bullies. Tamisha has blown this whole thing out of proportion!!

Hiyeee! My name is David H. Parker and I’m a looongtime listener (y’all pinned one of my comments the other day on Insta). Monét doing the timeout sign with her hands made me want to see y’all do a Sib Rivalry segment called “Time Out” where you being special guests on and hash out viral Internet beef between y’all and them or between the guests themselves!!

I haven't finished watching the whole video yet but are they gonna talk more about the whole Joseline Wendy situation ? I feel like this whole tamisha drama has distracted from that

mattdeb21

Cant wait for Arrogant Pt. 2

This is messy , love you both.

sean.tea

Y’all are not bullies. The only time you hit below the belt is at each other, and like you said it’s 100% playful and the pettiness is why we love you so much!!! You keep it real & professional when talking about the other girls.

Tom

I’m not sure if this entire thing is a stunt to get coin, because if so it worked! Made me finally cave and become a sibling. Best $7 CDN ever spent.

I don’t think you guys are bullies. This whole thing saddens me. I don’t want there to be beef between Bob/Monet and Tamisha Iman. Once she releases her video dragging Monet and all her pre drag race looks, can we just turn the page? I thought it was light fun, but I was on Tamisha’s IG and she is NOT joking. We can all watch Tamisha’s video critiquing Monet and once it’s released can we all agree to move on to the next drama? Here is something to talk about, any of you watch drag race down under? One of the queens on the show is being called out for doing black face / yellow face in the past. Drag her Bob, drag her Monet and continue to uplift/ Tamisha. ❤️❤️❤️

E Ok

I don't think yall are bullies and if yall were bullies Bob would be the bigger bully than Monet. But I feel like Tamisha didn't want the smoke with Bob so she tried to come at Monet instead. IDK but I hate how Tamisha is going out.

All Ima say about Coco Montrese is... she was in that live with Elliott.. agreeing with the “Aggressive” comment...

It seems so weird to me that Tamisha would pick on Monet considering Monet has a reputation for being nice. You'd think Tamisha would pick an actual shady queen tf but no she goes for literal Miss Congeniality Monet Xchange. smh

Danielle Palazzolo

Its a shame that Tamisha is acting like Bob and Monet is coming to her room at night and cutting up her wigs; I think she is really tallented.

You guys aren’t bullies at all! ❤️ Love you both

Please don’t change the content! We’re all here for your honest opinions, and we all appreciate you the way you are! 🖤. Also, TOTALLY hope all the queens you’ve invited come on! It would be great to hear full discussions

SMeow

Please never change. You all are perfect and gave her flowers on flowers this past season. She could live in a secret garden of flowers of kind compliments you gave her. I love her, but the delusion is real.

I see this! The people taking it way too deeply I feel like are threatened by how successful Bob and Monet are getting and how many opportunities they get and they feel like if they attack them and put them down it’s gunna put them on the same level. Like just work harder lol if they put this much effort into applying criticism who knows what would happen

Kathi ayala

People have the hardest time understanding that someone can adore you, respect you, see you as an icon and still be honest about an outfit they don’t like that you wore or something that you did that they don’t like. Or vice versa you can hardcore dislike someone and still commend them if they do something good or wear an outfit that you like. I don’t get why people are so afraid of being unbiased and honest and treat it like it’s a bad thing 😅

Kathi ayala

It’s all a pr stunt lmao everyone just needs to put morals aside and capitalize on it. They’re clearly having fun

I just checked and I'm blocked as well lmao

Shane McConnell

Also what about Fashion Photo Ruview? The entire show is about reading the queens.

Eric Wong

Love both of y’all and this podcast ❤️

I have been personally victimised by Bob when he failed to give the $100 he owes me #justiceforjoe

Not at all bullying. We are here to hear your honest opinions on the episodes.

KristyJoanne

Oooo looks like she’s blocked me too 🤷🏾‍♀️

b nixon

As a child of African immigrants who grew up going to Catholic School around mainly white people I got told all the time that I wasn’t black enough. And I had to defend my blackness daily. It is HIGHLY problematic at for Tamisha or anyone to try and deny someone’s blackness because their experience, and they way they talk isn’t viewed as “authentically black”. Wtf does that even mean??!! I was ready to get in her comments and drag her for that. I hope Bob and Monet go even further and talk about that bc it’s real.

My takeaway is that Sibling Watchery is poppin as hell, your recap podcast is relevant and the standard I know that’s right

this is way more exciting than all of s13

boot licking corporate clown im dead

This feels like what we Australians call "tall poppy syndrome" -- the unconscious desire to cut people down who are growing above us! Love you two <3

Lochsley Wilson

u guys are not bullys I'm sorry this is happening i love u both

i think my biggest issue is tamisha’s attitude. saying that she’s gonna ‘make an example’ of monét, talking down to her and blaming y’all for her issues. all while sitting there in that ugly fabric

I love Tamisha and I can definitely understand how Tamisha feels regarding the reviews and how they can be hurtful, but at the same time I don’t think Monét or even Bob were at any point being too harsh or out of line. Like I listen to this podcast religiously and I don’t always agree with what they have to say, but it’s their opinion that they’re expressing on their show. Also, with regarding to bringing other poc down I definitely don’t feel that on this podcast. In fact I tune in to this podcast, because a queer poc like myself feels welcomed in this space that they’ve created. Anyway, love you both always! 💖

As if reading other queens is not part of the gig?? The show has a whole segment devoted to reading. There's also another show specifically to Toot and Boot the looks of the queens. What you guys did was not at all out of line of what is already being done within the show, out of the show and in the whole fandom!

Lala didn’t even know tamisha was on drag race before they got there ☠️

jguy

You’re not bullies. There’s nothing wrong with the show. If you two only picked on Black queens to critique and talk shit about, then it’d be an issue, but that’s not the case. For every critique you give a queen, there’s a compliment as well. You two have said harsher things about Rosé and Tina, who were on the show for longer and had some bad runways. Tamisha seems like she thinks she should be immune from lighthearted critique just because she’s an elder. That’s just not how this works. Love her tho lol

Ngl this video has me crying 😭 😅

jguy

Oooooooo 👀

Angie S

You guys never make PERSONAL attacks. You are by no means bullies. You have a REVIEW show. It’s a shame Tamisha takes it so personally and can’t have a sense of humour about it all. You guys did nothing but sing her praises at every opportunity so it’s as if Tamisha is just looking for an opportunity to be messy.

Awwwww Monet giving Colleen’s cute paws kisses 😽

Angie S

Your reviews can absolutely sting. We all know you goof and play around as well and are very empathetic. However, I wouldn't want to be at the receiving end of it, it would feel intense! I have been surprised this season many a times by your opinions, change of pace :D I can understand Tamisha's reaction. I'm interested to know what more she wants to say, also in the years to come.

I suggest you guys nip this in the bud ASAP. Maybe reach out to LaLaRi to see if she can help connect you with Tamisha and resolve the conflict? I think Tamisha is hurt financially and because she can’t tour, can’t release her album. I also think you need to remember she is older, she is not use to social media and all the hate the trolls give black queens. Even thought your light critiques were valid, they may have been used as fodder by trolls in her DM’s or, it hurt doubly because she thought you would be easier on her because she is black. Whatever the reason she is hurt and hurt people hurt people. Just continue to shower her with love and keep being your wonderful selves. This too shall pass.

E Ok

This was worth every penny of my Patreon pledge.

Jasmine Cristine

I'm REALLY glad that Bob touched on how problematic it is for Tamisha (who I also really like/liked) attempted to discredit/erase Monet's blackness. I wish you guys would've delved more into that especially when Tamisha mentioned how WOW and RPDR gives a platform to black queens who don't "talk like her".... and then she goes on to mention that she's a real black person (insert pinocchio joke) because she's from the projects, etc. I found this to be so degradingly false because of the several black/POC queens who don't speak what many might consider to be "standard english" like, Jaida, Latrice, Chi Chi, Vanji, BeBe, Jasmine Master, etc. Yet, they've found a way to resonate with the fans. As a black queer person who grew up middle class/poor from Colorado. I've spent most of my life having ppl tell me I wasn't black enough or even having some YT ppl tell me I was too black. Not sure Tamisha really knows what she's even mad about but I do find it to be quite... interesting (to put it kindly) that she's willing to make an "example" out of another black queen to garner attention/views???... 🤷🏾‍♂️ not sure if she thinks that this some how makes her more black but nonetheless, it's super disappointing to see her projecting so much hatred towards another black queen as if the RPDR fandom isn't already so negative in their perception/approval of black queens/judges on the show. Anyways, I'm sensing that this Tamisha Iman Tuesday Reading Rainbow session is going to be highly anticlimactic like Rachel Maddow's smoking gun of Trump's Tax return -__- Bih! I'm still pissed I stayed up late waiting on her to drag him. Love you guys!! Also.... I must say how much I'm still laughing at the fact that this, reading Monet and the world for filth on Tuesday session, is planned like a damn TV pilot 😂😂😂 It's such old lady gang, West Side Story, cash me outside howboutdat energy and I live!!!

i dont think you guys are bullies on watchery, although i could see how Tamisha feels by watching and being on the show. as a viewer, i understand that you guys are all about jokes and are talking about a reality tv show. this whole thing is so random! i couldn’t even watch the 17 minute video because it was so cringey and she was talking in circles. anyway i probably won’t be watching on tuesday but be waiting for y’all to talk about it 😘

my fav part was when she said she went on drag race to "support RuPaul" lmao

M JM

yall are not bullies! When sportscasters talk about tom brady fumbling a ball they are not called bullies. Drag race is our superbowl -- it's our football and we are allowed to critique it and examine it and kiki about it!

M JM

Tamisha reminds me of my step mom. i cut that bitch off for a reason 🙅🏽‍♀️

i’m with Bob...i stand Tamisha, from the first time she walked in with that red suit. HOWEVER, she is being a bit unreasonable. y’all play ALLLLL day but at the end of the day y’all are fair af! those looks that she presented were not up to par, TO ME!😂and to y’all 😂😂😂everyone’s taste is different. it’s not law that we have to live, love and breathe what she presented. y’all gave credit when it was due and that’s on period. she say she’s not a messy gay, i’d beg to differ😒still a stand for her, but if you wrong you wrong. Bob and Monet, especially Monet you NOTHING wrong! i love y’all💚

i made a fake account to be able to watch the live aahhh lol

yana loo

ALSO she's blocking ANYONE who disagrees with her in the slightest, I said something along the lines of "this seems extreme" and I was blocked immediately. how does she have time/ energy for that

yana loo

support you two all the way! absolutely my faves!! never change what you do on the podcast just because Tanisha got her old ass granny knickers in a twist x

You're not doing character assassinations on Watchery. In HR terms, you're doing a peer review. I've experienced that at every job I've ever had. I don't understand why drag queens should be exempt from it. I wish Tamisha used all these constructive critiques towards professional development. Instead, she's turning into that one person at the office who constantly self-victimizes, ultimately gets fired, and never gets a good reference letter.

You guys are not bullies this is so off base... like I get she's in her feelings and you can tell that but it's really unfair to Monet. Don't change how you do watchery it's so good, you're always fair & just being real. Tbh I'm surprised this is coming from Tamisha and not Utica or Rose lmao, you were so positive about her in comparison

I completely understand Tamisha being in her feelings but i don't think she has listened to the show in its entirety. Both Bob and Monet have showed Tamisha and all the other black queen so much love. I mean tbh i think they even might go easy on the black queens. They are very pro-black. Im actually offended at this narrative The Vixen is trying to paint. I hope Tamisha comes on the show and yall are able to talk it out bc i do think its just sensitve feelings and misunderstandings. As for The Vixen, I think she's still mad at Monet from S10. Its personal girl lol.

I just think it's old black southern mentality. Our elders in the south especially black people think you should respect them no matter how we feel. Like when should kiss there ass because they paved the way for us. But everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

Timothy Thomas

This is sad... I really liked Tamisha. Now I’m just embarrassed for her. That being said this is just her beef with Kandy all over again.

Michael Joseph Enoch

I really hope tamisha just gonna gag us all and be like i love monet and bob and she just did this for views

Cyressreyy

thinking heavily of how you mentioned that Kandy tends to focus on the negative comments and critiques from the fans... tamisha is doing the same and taking it out on y'all. and vixen is just riding coattails for her 15 min and weaponizing her race for pity points. - an exhausted brown boy

Jay

I think all of this is so funny. I LOVE Bob and Monet I also LOVE Tamisha. It's drag everyone should be reading each other and starting stupid drama. Living.

Some people are not happy. And they take their unhappiness out on others

Bob is sooo messy.

SpyderRider

complimentary*

D

Bullies. You didn't bully her, you just stated your opinion.

SpyderRider

i think that it's really easy (at least for me) to tell that all of your jokes are in good fun. no bullying imo. i also think that it's fair that tamisha is probably feeling really overwhelmed about everything drag race and probably has criticisms coming at her from every angle at all times, as do most people in the public eye. it's unfortunate that she was sent over the edge by monét's criticisms, because i feel like both of you have been super complementary of her this whole time. out of all of the s13 girls y'all we'rent the hardest on her at all lol

Grant

this is EVERYTHING, thank you so much for diving so deep into these different sides of racism in and surrounding the franchise

I love all of y'all I hope Tamisha gets what she needs to say off her chest so y'all can squash this beef and go on tour together or something... either way love the drama and love all y'all

to me, the podcast has always come across lighthearted. you both know that you weren't "fashion queens" on drag race and your critiques are for entertainment purposes. there's no malice. of course, tamisha's feelings are valid but i'm sad that she doesn't realize you both have been rooting for her since the start.

Aye i went back and listened and honestly you didn’t shade her as much as she said you did Monet she’s on some rah rah dungeon dragon shit lol

The thought of Monet answering her phone and it’s just Bob wheeze laughing on the other end literally just made my week. Love you both, definitely don’t get bully vibes from anything you’ve said about Tamisha.

Sarina Faye

I've spent over an hour and a half this weekend hearing about how uunbothered Tamisha is. This is silly, & you're all legends.

I just love y'all lmao. I never get anything malicious from y'all and it always feel like I'm right there sitting in on the conversation. Regardless of the fandom & the other queens, I'm very thankful for this podcast :)

YOU ARE NOT BULLIIES yall are fine!!!!!! dw please i think this all is just a big meme tbh like Tamisha is Valid but so is fucking monet!! like she was so kind to Tamisha but she was just giving critiques like idk why sshes taking it to another level

Dairy Ann

I am living for the drama and would love to see any one of the queens you have have read on the podcast hahah! Ya'll are not bullies, you know we love the honesty!

Madelyn

Here’s a diary entry that no one will read, but I got a lot of feelings that I’m more mixed about than other black people commenting (cos tbh i think this is a negroes only issue at the heart of it) so I thought I would write this out. Let me start off by saying I love y’all and I’m not trying to be shady. Do I think y’all are bullying? No, but I don’t think that’s where the conversation ends, and I think the word bullying isn’t being used the same way for each of yall. Tbh I think this is an issue about boundaries of what each black person considers actual acceptability politics, as well as how the fandom may look coming from loved queens vs. hated ones. I’m just gonna push Tamisha aside cos I think the fans actually started that - she prob just got shown a supercut going around that showed all of the reads yall gave her and nothing else. I have no proof of that, but I do know black boomers like my mama, and they definitely ain’t listening to no damn podcast week after week. I also don’t like her trying to delineate what blackness is or isn’t, especially when she’s given Elliott a platform. So lemme get going with the others. I get what Monet is saying about Vixen and others that chimed in, but there was one part I think that was kinda emblematic of the parallel points I think yall and Coco and the Gang are making, as well as what i’ve had the misfortune to see as someone who’s been in this fandom pretty deeply since season 2. I know y’all still get hate, but it’s much different for someone established vs. someone not (as well as how they handle racism - whether it’s give peace a chance or fuck her I’m out) and the level of vitriol is completely discrepant from what I’ve seen (again, I’m not y’all so I don’t know if it truly is, but judging from what I’ve seen and fought about over the years I think it is). I get that Monet was heated, but for example, saying that the Vixen weaponizes her race is exactly the sort of thing I think they’re getting at. Monet has the right to feel that way, but a comment like that is loaded because of the context it’s in (aka shit fans). Do I think the vixen was right? Nah. But do I think that y’all are talking about the same thing? Not really. From the jump, Vixen got so much hate even if she had a point - shit, even the fandom is turning on Rupaul’s little respectability rant at the reunion (and i think because y’all are getting some WOW opportunities, maybe they also believe y’all are more aligned with Ru’s politics and complicity in this shit festering - really, we post a tweet or two around NOW when tyra was getting it terribly all the way back to season 2? - than you are). But because y’all are black, because y’all are perceived as being top of the heap and liked by most of the white fans (believe me, I’ve seen it ain’t always been that way, and I can’t imagine how y’all felt and still feel) these fans take your words and use them as justification to label their dislike of a queen when really - when it comes down to it - they’re usually racist. I come from a socialization perspective here - from the jump, we’re socialized in a world where black people are seen as lesser, and that is reinforced implicitly and explicitly. There’s been many studies showing that - in ambiguous situations like shady ones - black people are automatically seen as being malicious, evil, and hateful etc. That lack of grace is racism, but the accusation of racism is somehow twisted into seeming more grave than the systemic and insidious nature of racism itself. Eureka got a ton of shit back then, but there’s a reason Eureka’s instigating ass kept sort of skating by - even at the reunion with Ru, which was insane! If race is a weapon, it’s a weapon that gets jammed up most of the time, leaving you to usually get your shit rocked. How many times does actually pointing out an ambiguous situation is racist (or having a super hot take that’s far more malcolm x than MLK) actually work for somebody? Let’s be honest, not many - shit, even when it’s clearly racist it’s still White Justification Hour. But we can disagree as black people on that, but the problem is that with y’all’s platform shit gets amplified. Even if you think Vixen had points sometimes, white fans looking for an excuse to tell themselves they’re not racist take your points and run with them because now someone black said it, so it’s okay. Let’s be 100 here - Blair and Rose will be fine because they are white queens with a fanbase that will defend them. Black queens often don’t have the same luxury. Critiques hit harder on a black queen than on a white one because of the fans, and because y’all are so high up on the totem pole, that may be where the hurt lies - you see the words of someone who has been through the same racist shit as you thrown back against you in order to shut you up because apparently black people cant disagree. That’s why I kinda see both sides on this. To boot, Monet may not have seen this, but I remember her words were often used as an excuse to ignore literally anything the Vixen had to say during s10 airing. Bob being on a show with Eureka was used as an excuse to say “stop feeling some type of way about Eureka saying that a black woman named Shakira showed her racism was wrong.” Is that fair to y’all? Fuck no. But is it fair to those queens either? not really. I think we have to consider this conversation in the context we’re in. The fans play more of a starring role than I think others may realize, and quite honestly, more than what was discussed. Do I want y’all to only love on black queens? Nope. But do I think the bullying accusations are just about queen-on-queen violence? Nah. But quite honestly as a fan that really had to step away from my love for the show for a few years after RuPaul’s rant but has also had to work with people I don’t agree with so I could actually fucking get food to eat, I kinda feel mixed on this. I feel like this fandom loves to center white pain even in the face of ridiculousness (Shakira, bitch? REALLY) and conversations on forgiveness/pity are held for white queens as opposed to black ones. The treatment of Elliott is another example of this - homegirl focused in on a few messages and turned the situation from “uh does she realize this is racist” to “She didn’t mean to do that! And that! And that in that trump limo!” I’m not tryna say we shouldn’t give people grace, and I’m not saying those messages are okay, but we all know very well that a) criticism and jokes outweighed any virulent hate and b) those same conversations are not happening for queens of color. I don’t know what the fix is here, exactly, but I do see where they’re coming from more than others might because I’ve seen it happen over and over again. Again, I may just be sensitive, and it’s unfair to ask y’all to change because of some fans who still send slurs in y’all’s inbox TOO on the daily, but I legitimately see the point on both sides. Like Monet’s comment is already being used on reddit to justify years of virulent Vixen hate, I shit you not. This shit travels, unfortunately, and I’m not sure what the solution is but I think it’s not just about being read, either. And thank you for coming to my Negro Talk.

Tamisha is bang out of order and is landing some low blows. Please do not get sucked into a flame war with her. Because that will breathe oxygen into the drama she is creating

I really hope that this hoopla does not change how you guys express yourselves on this show. Please don’t overcompensate by editing or diluting your content

Y’all are FAR from bullies. You’re literally what gets me through the week.

The drama sub is the worst

What I don’t understand is she went on drag race which is a show where the whole point is to be critiqued on her drag ,you then followed up on your show as 2 previous contestants so you know what it’s all about by critiquing her drag which is the whole point ! I never felt it was personal you didn’t give opinions on her personal life or previous drag it was just what she presented on drag race a show that everybody knows has the biggest platform and where people are going to have opinions good or bad . It’s not a personal attack on her or her character !

Lynsey

Tamisha and Vixen are currently subbing to the patreon for 1$ so they can watch the video while supporting Sibling Rivalry the least amount possible lol

David Rocha

Hoooo lord. Honestly, I think whatever is going on with fans who say rude shit to Tamisha is what’s really bothering her and she’s sensitive right now and blaming the hurtful comments on Monet and Bob’s critiques. Maybe once she’s stepped back and had a chance to look at the situation again with a cool head, she’ll come around. Right now, she’s outta pocket. I’m 28 and my ass is too old to be talking about fighting people (the Kandy situation), so in my opinion, she’s being extremely immature with all this nonsense. She has zero problem critiquing the other queens and saying her piece, so she should be able to either roll her eyes and keep it moving or say one thing and ignore it for good.

Daniélle A.

Seriously what is the vixens problem??

Are telling me Eminem is almost 59 years old. Dear Jesus I feel so aged right now.

I think y'all bully each other ;) but you're definitely just sharing your opinions about the show

I didn’t hear Tamisha say anything about Bob. 👀 What’s so bad about her giving opinions isn’t that what this all is anyway? Am I the only one who just thinks it’s not that serious... it’s drag. Anyway let me hit play.

Simone

This gives me "Tyler the creator vs Eminem" energy when Eminem got butthurt over a joke Tyler made one time, lol. I think this is a generational thing. Eminem and Tamisha (48 and 50) are both close in age, and so is Tyler and Monet (30 and 31)

Gonzales

YOU ARE NOT BULLIES! The show is great and so funny. It all comes from love and a shared experience. <3

What a hot week to become a Patreon 😭😂

Sarah Rendon

This whole thing is just some unnecessary mess, Tamisha keeps going off about being a respected legend but portraying herself in a whole different light. The vixen would reach if thats the last thing she does its not surprising to see her do this. Not a Eureka fan, but i stopped taking TheVixen serious when she said Eureka cant call herself the elephant queen coz elephants are from Africa when Eureka calling herself that was related to her size.

I don’t know what to think. On the one hand I really want to watch the Tamisha Imam video as it airs. On the other hand I’m gonna be refreshing my Instagram every 5 seconds for Bob or Monet to be instagramming it live 😂 anyone else ? 🙈🙈

You are not bullies!! I love you both

I'm starting to wonder if Tamisha thought you were a WOW podcast and you'll were talking shit about her, making her think that this is how the show really felt about? Let us find out she's getting hot over a big ass misunderstanding. With that said, she's entitled to her feelings, but she's not entitled to say who's Black and who's not. That's what I have a problem with. Also, not surprised Coco had her comments because she works with Elliott. Vixen is just being messy for attention. I don't know what her issue with Bob is other than she does a show with Eureka, and that Bob is Jakeyonce's favorite Drag Queen who she has beef with; but trying to insinuate that Black Queer Town Hall is something that it's not without no evidence or no personal experience with it, is downright libelous. She is going to get sued one day.

Mel8235

honestly i think shes just doing this for viewers. which thats cool. the thing is she been doing this for 30 years but i just heard of her 5 min ago. where i knew of bob before drag race. hmm

Burt

You got it right "Tamisha Iman is coming for the views". But that's what y'all do online- and there isn't anything wrong with that. People don't watch review shows like Sibling Rivalry or even Pit Stop because they want to watch the kind, uplifting comments. We're here to watch for real opinions shown in an entertaining way. Does that mean some of the jokes land hard, sure. Does it mean you hate the person you're talking about, hell no. Sometimes people are just looking for things to be offended by.

You guys aren’t bullies, never change. More importantly, I loved the “Drag her!” origin story and that Jacob is responsible for one of my favourite phrases (on the show and now in my real life 😂)!

AZ

THE first thing I thought of was you both promoting her merch and admiring her abilities! I am also annoyed to see a lot of negativity from people who never listened to the podcast and only saw clips of critiques!

I'm genuinely shocked that this has gotten to this point. I was positive this was just a really big joke. Love Tamisha but she's reaching. Monet and Bob's critiques were fair and never malicious so there's no reason to take it so far. Her comments about blackness were just ignorant.

Brandon Brown

I think on your platform and podcast you can say what you want. I think the problem lies in the fact that although we, or most of us in your fanbase know that you're joking, that might not come off as such for others. Perception is everything. Tamisha perceived all the joking as not in jest but towards her and heard either some or none of the praise at all. Its like the saying where you can call a girl pretty 100 times and she'll never believe you but call her ugly once she'll believe it for the rest of her life. Its become such a fine line that although you take into account and validate feelings, it almost becomes restrictive in a way to not be able to say things in jest. I listened to all of your podcast and never thought you guys were mean or being bullies. If anything, the humor is just a way to lighten to mood because if asked directly, I feel your opinions would be open and honest with no laughter behind it. The joke was heard through a different filter is all and your opinions, just like hers, should be shared. If we can't share our opinions and agree to disagree, then what are any of us talking to each other about anymore.

Yukari Shizou

Y’all are not bullies. Those who are offended chose to be. When a bitch signs up to be on tv, you open yourself to critique. I’m not sure why POC always want passes from other POC who give their critique. As long the intent isn’t to tear and destroy, it’s good and I never got the sense y’all were picking on her or giving her worse critique than others. The fact she ignores all the good things you guys have done and said speaks loud and clear. I like and respect Tamisha but she seems angry about more than just Bob and Monet, they are probably some of the only ones who can’t Sue her for $2 million if she speaks on them. Add in she’s probably been talking to other queens who don’t like these two black bald bitches and here we are. And if she is such an icon and legend, she should be used to being critiqued. Plus, all my true bad bitches don’t let another bitches’ mutterings send them asunder - it should all be senseless fodder to a true Queen. Let this be the last video about that Tamisha stuff.

Can you expand on the last thing you said?

Hunter Herrera-McFarland

I mean if Raja and them can review the girls, you should be able to too. Also I think her relationship with Lala was telling for me 🤷🏾‍♂️

I used to think Kandy wasn't self-aware and could not take any criticism... she's come a long way I love her

Facts are facts and clearly they’re only seeing them thumbnails - selective watching. You gave her her flowers. She probably just watching them views climb with the drama and you guys are taking the click bait. But then again your views be climbing too I assume. MAKE THEM COINTHOTAS QUEENS. 💅🏽

I watched another live and I don't think she really cares what is actually happening. She has created a full storyline and it doesn't work if facts get in the way. I think she really believes what she is saying and maybe someone souped her up but yeah once folks start feeling some kind of way it's hard to bring them back. She is old school. I think she can hold a beef for decades. That being said Monet didn't do anything that warrants all this messiness but I honestly don't think Tamisha is going to back down. On that live it made no sense. She has Monet out here destroying careers of poor drag queens. I was like "What?!?!?" I mean I love me some Monet but her opinion doesn't change mine. It's another level man. Tamisha is another level ooof

Dancey Fun

Watched Ms. Iman. It’s not that deep. This is just silliness. Yes Bob, you play too damned much but she is too damned old to let social media hype her up in this fashion. As Amy said, WHAT KIND OF FUCKERY IS THIS?!

Valarie Mack

Please don't ever ever ever change y'all. I can't believe that Tamisha ACTUALLY thinks this is bullying. From some "fans" sure, but not in any way shape of form is what y'all doing considered bullying in my books. And if it is, take Toot&Boot, Race Chaser, the Pit Stop and EVERY other fashion critique forum down cause apparently everyone's a bully considering almost everyone has shared similar critiques on her fashion. I also find it hilarious how in the same breath she's saying she's going to teach all the lil girls how to stay relevant by not caring about what other people say, and then does a while live at 5 am about this, and is dedicating her whole show to beating down Monet. And this "respect your elders" bullshit is just that, bullshit. You get respect if you give respect, end of story. And what's really frustrating to see is how y'all really built up her fanbase and now they're jumping on both of you, where if y'all hadn't said anything that fanbase wouldn't be as big as it is. I'm sorry this is becoming such a big thing, she really needs to take 6 steps back and check herself.

Shane McConnell

Bullies? No. But I do think that maybe your joking around rubs certain personalities the wrong way. That's not your fault at all, but it's important to know that intent does not always equal impact. Something I learned recently is T.H.I.N.K -- Is it true? Is it helpful? Is it inspiring? Is it necessary? Is it kind? That helps a lot when trying to figure out whether or not something is worth saying.

Riki Dows

Remember not to clip it and repost it!

R

So it seems like Tamisha is letting out all her frustrations out from everything at Monet. She is literally just going to ignore all the positive things you both said about her?? And here goes the Vixen again questioning people blackness again. Who appointed her as the gatekeeper for “genuine black people”? Saying black people aren’t a monolith but then anyone who doesn’t fit in her box is CONTRADICTORY. Smh

Ashley Kusu

Tamisha is being sensitive. It’s a competition show. Obviously they are going to get critiqued. Did she honestly think she could go on RPDR and hear only compliments? No, you’re going to get people’s honest opinions. It’s not that deep. Just laugh it off! She shouldn’t have went on the show if she wasn’t ready to hear people’s opinions about her drag on the show.

I think Tamisha feels targeted by some people who may be your fans and take seriously certain critiques, even when made in jest.

Ya’ll just a reminder that Bob and Monet do this for their Patreon and the fans who support them on here. Please don’t upload this conversation (that was meant for us) onto your own TikTok or other platforms.

HammerSmith

I would like to think this is the case but based on the live I saw from tamisha she was very condescending referring to monet as “little girl” and saying she was going to read her and not hold back. It just seems hypocritical to me if she’s trying to spread positivity and encourage that by reading others. I really liked tamisha and her story I just hate that she made that video bc I feel like she’s taking things out of context. If it hurt her feelings then say that and see where it goes, I just don’t get why she’s only attacking monet when there were others who read her looks and she has no problem with them?

Y'all read the other queens all the time and y'all read your original season looks. You don't act high and mighty. You can have opinions on people's looks and you have always made sure to balance it with praise when it comes to Tamisha

I don’t consider you guys bully’s. You don’t come from a place of hostility, I just think some people are not great at taking criticism.

Amanda Johnson

I mean I don't have the experience of being critiqued from a reality TV show but come on people take this shit too seriously. Like its art so it is therefore subjective. like upset about a bunch of fabric...... its too much.

Nick Ballas

"she has stated clearly on the podcast that she would like to hit some drag queens" is sending me lmaoo

Ryan Mortenson

I think a big thing that's striking me is that Tamisha's actions are not matching up with her words. She keeps saying that she doesn't care, but she is dragging this situation out and turning it into a moment, which makes me thinks she is hurt. I feel like if she said I am hurt by what you said and had a conversation with Monet, things could be solved, but she is blowing things way up. Threatening to end Monet, and just saying things that aren't true. Reminds me of the way Kandy was leaving the werk room in Untucked to remove herself from the situation and Tamisha continued to follow her and egg her on. Its a... just a little off.

Ben Elliot

I love you guys so much. I was crying laughing throughout this whole video.

Denali also liked Bob's tweet about Monet being one of the sweetest people she's ever known.

Matthew Taylor

I don't think you are bullying anyone. I think that Tamisha's point is that fans pick and choose things people say, and piggy back on those words to hate on other queens. It's not that you two are hateful. I know these conversations are just how you talk (and in my opinion it's really entertaining). I think she is just advocating for more 'positive platforms' to allow other queens to succeed, but I don't think that this stands as a criticism of either of you AT ALL. I am not sure about this Vixen thing, but you should have a roundtable discussion about this. Love you both (and I also still love Tamisha)!

I feel like your invitation should include Denali, she left a comment on Tamisha's post seemingly supporting what she was saying lol... could be just jokes but idk maybe she's mad about Bob not liking the chandelier dress 💀

This is wild! Tamisha says she has 30+ years of experience but with also the impulse of a 13 year old. You guys are always straightforward with your critiques as fans of the show as well and as such you shouldn’t feel the need to censor your own podcast or be less funny. Be unapologetically yourself. PeriodT.

honestly seems like another reach for attention and clout from drama, love you queens both always and we know critiques arent personal attacks? its never that deep but if she coming for yous she'll gotta get through us first lmao! Much love X

Tamisha is doing the MOST and its honestly embarrassing for her who claims to be a veteran.

Adriiaannn

I genuinely do not think that either of you are bullies. You can tell that you don't mean harm but are just sharing your opinions. Maybe by trying to add humor to your opinions, it may sound harsher to some people but it definitely doesn't come off as bullying, especially for Tamisha who yall praised all the time... now for miss rose, she should be mad LMAOOO

Spencer Bennett

round table on twitter spaces??

Rashaany Tuinfort

what im learning from all of this is the MVP is rose for being chill with y'all after you literally tore her to shreds on this podcast lmao mad respect what a good sport

Sarah Salem

Tamisha seems to be focusing on the negative instead of the positive, which I think is easy to do. With that said, neither Monet or Bob have said anything disparaging; they shared their genuine opinions which included both the good and bad.

All this drama is stressing me out lmao 🤣🤣🤣

Pup James

I wanna hug this wholesome comment

This is like a game of Telephone that has gone cataclysmically wrong

Christopher Ganey

was vixen implying bob and monet aren't pro-black because of sibling watchery? wtf is wrong with her? is she brain damaged?

Gonzales

Girl these comments are not going to be objective because we are all here beyond the paywall lol but no I don’t think you are bullies. Sure, if we’re going to keep it 2021 💯 maybe you drag the queens and that makes the fans feel like they can do the same but... you never claimed to be or set out to be captain of the fan club of every girl who entered Ru Paul’s drag race. It’s kind of unfair to expect that of you two when no one expects it from yuhua, laganja, Nina Bonina and any other queen who makes reviews. I’m not going to speak for Monet but I would understand if the questioning of monet’s blackness sparked more of a clapback than a contained Patreon video

Emma

Very this!

Did I just subscribed to this patreon to watch this? Hell yes and I'm not disapointed, just made my day

On a side note, thank you for explaining the origins of “DRAG HER.”. I have been using it incessantly. It is my new favorite thing to say to my dog when she barks at someone outside the window.

Jordan C.

here's my thing - i get being hurt or offended when you get read. i wouldn't like to be read either, i am sensitive. and if you guys dunking on them is getting confused fans to come at them on their own platforms, that's not cool. but accusing you of being anti-black because some of the people you dunked on are black? i don't think that's fair. i don't think you're obligated to only say positive things about black creators just because you're black. kind of bums me out that the vixen is so angry at you guys, i think she's really cool and i think you are really cool too. i don't keep up to date on like, drama between the rugirls because it's generally none of my business, but are they this pissed at racechasers? because willam is just as equal opportunity and frank as you guys are lmao

betp

Monet girl take it as a compliment! They say that on the first day in prison you shank the biggest bitch to make a name for yourself, Tamisha is trying to take you down to make it to the middle #PettyBitch

The more I think about this, the more it annoys me. And I'm talking about the other queens involving themselves, not necessarily about Tamisha herself - at least her feeling are there because the critiques were about *her*. But for Vixen, along with Shea's drag kids, to drag the shit out of both Monet and Bob, and to flat out question their blackness - that is FUCKED UP. And again, we all know there is literally ZERO chance a single one of them ever heard any critiques offered on Watchery. They are completely uninformed, have no idea what they are talking about, messy for no reason, and are *actual* bullies spreading disinformation.

Matthew Taylor

I think Tamisha is being a little too sensitive about this, and is honestly just tryna get some coins or clout off of drama. Out of everybody on Season 13 ya’ll did not drag her the most..it’s giving “pick me”. If anybody should be mad, it should be Rosè 🥲💀

Kashia Kancey

I agree. I’m pretty sure most Black people can identify with that sort of harassment, unfortunately. I really do stan all parties involved mainly because they are outspoken. I can see a lot of constructive things potentially coming out of an open dialogue which Bob and Monèt are great facilitating.

I am so happy they delivered this IMMEDIATELY!

omg wait ... i now absolutely need the “tamisha iman and monet x change look back on monet’s season 10 looks” videos

Do I think you guys are bullies? No, do I think Bob plays too much from time to time, yes. Regardless , I don’t think you guys (nonetheless Monet) deserve this type of backlash from stating your honest opinions on your own damn podcast.

Not you quoting nene leaks like she act grown Lol. I do agree with you though 😆👌

Queen Sucka

Anyone who enjoys your podcast and drag race in general knows everyone comes to critique. Y'all are the ones who got me into Tamisha Iman, so I do think she's just being too sensitive. Clearly you both are silly and sweet, and mean no harm.

I honestly loved Tamisha before all this bullshit happened. Like, she couldn’t just transition into her Jasmine Masters position gracefully could she?

Bullies??? Y’all are too nice to miss Elliot with 3K’s. Why does Tamisha always play victim? I guess she’s too old for the business after all. Yikes.

of course shes fucking bothered. All Monet and Bob did was give her props and tried to support Tamisha's up along her drag race journey. Just bc they didnt care for a garment or presentation she had does not equate to them saying she ain't shit and shes not legendary. That's what they were making sure ppl (mostly fans who don't even care to google or know drag icons such as Tamisha)knew from the beginning. They tried to break through the young toxic demographic who don't know shit about what an icon and legendary status meanT before Drag race FOR TAMISHA and she just overlooks that. She overlooked the fact what Bob did w his platform to gain. awareness for what she did/does for the scene and continued to do on sibling watchery in respectfully. And I'm still fucking confused as to why she thinks Monet is the Prime example that should be made out of. hy it's also equally entertaining as it is frustrating. She went out of her way to say Monet needed to be the example example for what? That you can't disagree or like everything Tamisha wears? But still give her props at the same time???

Guys, please DON'T CHANGE, even a bit! Your "forthcomingness" is what makes you you, and what makes us love and appreciate you. No need to censor yourselves to appease people who create their own narratives. You have not in any way, shape or form singled out black queens in your criticism - if anything, you've done the contrary by uplifting your sisters. Lastly, you don't have to "respect your elderly" for the simple fact that they are elderly. Miss Iman needs to learn to take criticism for what it is - especially when she put herself out there. Like the title of your video - she is coming for VIEWS and using you to gain attention. Continue doing you, unfiltered, uncensored and true to your selves.

Paused the video at 19:45 to say that you guys are NOT bullies. You guys give critiques and on balance give out compliments, you’re literally just discussing the show and sharing your opinions. ALSO WTF IS CYBER BULLYING JUST TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER 🥴🥴

A lot of the queens who chimed in are either delusional/in their feelings like Tamiesha, or they've never even watched a full episode of sibling watchery of drag race or are even subscribed to the patreon = they don't know shit. just co-signing lol

Cierra Sullivan

In regards to the "are we bullies" question, you are, under NO circumstances anything other than fair and honest judges. While I love Tamisha, I do think she's overreacting a bit to... something that Monet said, I guess? Idk, I always thought both Bob AND Monet were Tamisha fans and gave her props when she deserved them and gave justified critique, as well, without being mean, malicious or unfair. It also makes me kinda sad to see The Vixen come for Bob and Monet like that, especially since they've worked together (Nubia, S10) and I would've thought she'd have had higher opinions of them than seeing them as corporate bootlickers.

the way tamisha is acting towards monet is exactly the reason why i think she started it with kandy. she took the "symone is my biggest competition" comment personally just like she took monet's personally, but she holds onto her experience like she's above the drama she causes? IDK. I'm white-passing so i don't understand her experiences, i do think her feelings are valid and i'd get why people saying ANYTHING bad would get to someone, especially in lockdown, especially right after the season is over, especially after her hinting towards having drama with world of wonder too, but it's just too much. she also went back on live being misogynistic towards afab queens, so i have a strong feeling this tuesday video is gonna go farther than anyone else ever did. i think bob and monet go too far sometimes, but at the same time, drag is about pushing boundaries and going too far. everybody complains about the reading challenges on the season when the girls do bad, but when girls actually read eachother it's a problem? and same with the kandy situation, she came back months later and said she'd have hit her if the cameras were off, but kandy's still the only one getting dragged? i honestly think tamisha came on drag race thinking that she was too good for it and above everyone else from the jump and didn't realize that's not what the show is about

@Bob to answer your question: I think if you and Monet are bullies, Tamisha must think that Trixie and Violet are War Criminals....like y'all are much more respectful than a lot of the other girls with recap videos. On top of that, if you and Monet do read someone, you also try to think about it from perspectives (maybe they were running low on drag, maybe the outfit looks good but we can't see the whole things so maybe it's stunning ETC.)

Erin Hopkins

😂😂 did tew much. I wish tamisha well, but I’m over the whining... monet has been complementary except one episode. Chile bye

Alexander

You guys aren't bullies. You are both balanced and fair, you aren't using your platform to these down others. It is an interesting topic overall. I love Tamisha, and I think her anger is misplaced with Monet. I would love for Tamisha, Rosè or Blair to be on the podcast.

According to WoW’s website you both are their CEOs 🧐

Dominic DiFiglia

Definitely not bullies . You give fair critiques

Has no one else figured out that this all a lead up to the next Nubia tour? Its gonna be a Marvel Civil War theme and everyone is gonna have to choose a side. This is all PR for it so everyone can decide which team they're on. Just watch, Next week Naomi will be 'betraying' the Iman Axis and joing the Sibling Powers. Go check out the RPDR spoilers for more cause the franchise is only gonna get bigger and bigger... /s

Adam Bach

The Vixen has a tendency to be incendiary and say inflammatory things without explaining them, and I get where it comes from, especially seeing how a fandom viciously attacked her after eureka gaslit her and literally started a whole fight for no reason. That having been said, it’s just so tiring to see and it makes it so hard to continue to support her, knowing one day she’s going to say something intentionally controversial just for the sake of starting controversy so she can sit back and say “Mhm. See how sad and dumb people are?” PLUS as a black kid who was CONSTANTLY put under scrutiny of being “black enough,” the fact that she would even use that rhetoric shows that she is PRECISELY the kind of black person who isn’t pro-black she described in those tweets. It’s just upsetting to see her fanning these flames

I also feel that if in fact Tamisha is really pissed it’s because of toxic fans sending nasty hate her way.

Helen Roman

I feel like all of the queens speaking on this or liking tweets shading Monet should be required to listen to every episode of watchery bc they’re reaching your honor

Dominic DiFiglia

Very this. I'm more worried about Tamisha and The Vixen in this because A: Just from this video, we know that Bob and Monet are fine. B: Tamisha and The Vixen have already had their fair share of racism thrown their way and regardless of what they've said about this, neither of them deserve that :(

Qui Qam

Bob moved to LA and The Secret'd the Monet vs Tamisha drama into existence

Tamisha seems very bothered for someone who isn't bothered. I really feel like you haven't said anything mean about her at all. Bullying is being mean spirited about someone and who they are which you guys aren't. Also I don't understand The Vixen getting involved? Have they ever watched or listened to the show? but I totally agree with you that Tamisha is free to feel how they want to feel. No one should invalidate their feelings

It just seems like this drama has such a real and not-widely-acknowledged issue at the heart of it (not y’all) and I really want to know what you guys have to say about it?

kittygirlineedsomehelp

Oh I meant to say I can see how you guys words have weight for the fans and queens that hurt themselves or their careers but it does really seem like the really issue is the way rpdr and wow operate. I love supporting you guys and seeing you guys succeed but, especially as a little black bitch it is also so heartbreaking to see so many people being demeaned and hurt by the franchise as she said and I hope you guys can talk more about that since it seems like people agree that Monet and the actual fashion jokes were not the real harm done...?

kittygirlineedsomehelp

You should do a live reaction vid to her video

Kareem Vaude

PhiPhi goes by Jaremi now.

Qui Qam

I can't wait to see her read two queens who read themselves and each other on the DAILY

Kareem Vaude

Girl I didn’t even know about tamishas shoes until y’all mentioned it

Angel

I think it’s confusing that she makes so many good important and long-overdue points about rpdr discarding queens while marketing itself as an uplifting show and how fans (and according to her, queens) put so much weight on their critiques from RuPaul/WoW that it hurts people AND their careers. Those points probably don’t apply as much to SR because Bob and Monet don’t make the show as a part of the official production of rpdr and it is presented as a discussion between friends that we get to be in on because we love them instead of a unquestionable review show...! I am not a queen and I’m 18 so just delete my comment if it’s dumb 😭.

kittygirlineedsomehelp

at first I thought Tamisha was losing it, but she made interesting points. It's become part of drag race culture to do reviews of the show and a problem could be that the more popular the queen, the more powerful their words are. I guess it can feel as bullying when a queen you look up to "chooses" to drag you for hundreds of thousands weekly listeners, because if we're being honest, there's no way they could defend themselves without being laughed at. Also, apparently Yuhua's being dragging everyone hard this whole season, but who even knew or cared? (all tea no shade). New queens desperately want to be respected by respected queens, and I can't blame them for being hurt if that's not the case. I hope this whole situation doesn't get out of hand (even though I live). To quote Martha Caldwell: you and Monét already talk nasty anyway so ain't nothing I can do but say Lord, I just want you to stay with them.

Tamisha is being ridiculous and kind of desperate

Brody

lets have a watch party i want tamisha to read me but. miss thing really cant take a joke

I don’t think you’re bullies, not in this case nor in general. But then again this is y’all’s Patreon so we might be biased 🤔 Also I don’t understand what the Vixen is trying to achieve by saying that??

You're not bullies. Tamisha and Vixen plssssssss

Bob, do you mean "there's a couple of girls that you really don't care for .. but you have to commend them on their (pause) drag"?

PLEASE A VIEWING PARTY ON TUESDAY TO TUNE IN TO TAMISHA ! that will be a crazy viewing party

Girl, y’all are not bullies. Y’all are just talking about what they’ve put out on the show just like the judges do. I don’t see her coming for Michelle or Rupaul or any of the other judges and they’re the ones that sent her home🤨 Idk but this is all being blown out of proportion 😩✋🏽

Y’all are not bullies you just have a podcast where you review your favorite show and nobody else has gotten this pressed. I feel tamisha has said very controversial things and I don’t understand why she’s going to these extreme lengths to get a point across. But I will tune in lol

Alexxis Butler

i adore Tamisha-but much like PhiPhi and the The Vixen-they seem to have problems with RPDR in general. As a sis white gay male and a non drag race contestant-I can't speak on the validity of their resentments or experience, I will say that I think you 2 are collateral damage.

Robert Rumsey

This is the best thing ever so glad I signed up

Funny thing is that they are on social media doing all that still nothing is happening. Under my RPDR search on YouTube Tamisha's videos don't show up. She's not relevant enough. Should have became allies with Bob and Mone't instead of an enemy.

Angelique Gibbs

The other queens inserting themselves into the conversation, while literally knowing absolutely nothing at all about what was said on any Watchery, is so obnoxious. But not particularly surprising.

Matthew Taylor

I feel like Vixen is often right on the nose but when shes not she commits to being fullllllly wrong. Like I think the way fans treat her is bull, and I think she is so so necessary in this community to be that person who isnt afraid to call things out but I also think the way she chooses to defend herself especially to other people of color is really awful, first with Manila and the whole Sahara thing and now trying to come for Bob and Monet's blackness because they commented on somebodys drag for a review show. I wish she could figure out whatever it is that makes her go way too far with shit because when shes in the right shes a really powerful voice

I think this is purely a publicity stunt for all of us to tune in on Tuesday. I am a fan of Miss Iman but everyone here, including Tamisha, knows she was not bullied/disrespected by Monet. She heard how Bob says, “drag her” to Monet (jokingly) and she ran off with her IG lives to tell everyone she’s dropping a video on YouTube. And the kicker is, it’s working. Whether you like Tamisha or not, now we’re all gonna watch whatever she has to say come Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, whatever day she drops this

🤣🤣🤣 I think that's all of us

Angelique Gibbs

this is one of the funniest things ive ever seen hahahaha the fucking moment monet pulled out the shoes

The Vixen questions everyone's blackness which is problematic as Bob said. She doesn't get to choose what's someone else black. Riding Tamisha's made up drama to get attention.

Angelique Gibbs

Because Tamisha knows Alaska, Willam, Trixie, and Violet's stans would be tearing her apart for the next 5 years if she came at them like this. She's picking on them because she knows they're an easy target since they won't really go back and forth with her about it and their fanbase isn't as rabid as the other queens. We'll all forget about this in a week and Tamisha will decide she has a problem with Shea Coulee or someone else.

Nothing they said has been dangerous. Aruguably problematic, but dangerous is a stretch. I do agree they should post this publicly though. I highly doubt The Vixen or Tamisha are in this Patreon.

Qui Qam

Get her on!

You are 100% not bullies. You are allowed to say or feel however you want about the season 13 queens. This is absolutely ridiculous. Tamisha lasted 3 seconds on the season and now wants to still be relevant. She needs to let it go... She is a very well respected Atlanta queen but I think her reaction to this is distasteful.

Camille Achinelli

BRO I LOVE YALL W MY WHOLE ASS HEART BUT QUIT APOLOGIZING FOR NO FUCKING REASON YALL AINT FUCKING BULLIES YALL ARE PUSSIES love you big fan xxx

Stay honest! There is a reason so many people watched the Pit Stop with Bob, and there is a reason we all listen to the podcast, because you guys seem honest and funny. I don’t think what you do constitutes bullying, but as you said, criticism can be overwhelming and people are entitled to their feelings.

when they said laughter is the best medicine, they specifically meant bob's laughter

Amber Soto

You’re not bullies. It’s all part of the gig when you put yourself in the public eye for public critique. I wonder if she’s bothered by a perceived lack of respect for older queens in general and this is how she’s taking it out at this moment? Also holding out hope this is just a stunt. But remember the age-old wisdom: there’s no such thing as bad publicity!

You both are definitely not bullies, you all critique all the queens. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and feel the way they want to feel. I guess tamisha is doing something right because we will all tune in on Tuesday! 🤣

Kristina DeFonte

I think the way y'all joke around can come off as disrespectful, especially to a person like Tamisha who doesn't fuck with y'all like that. I honestly live for the 'drama' but 'fans' have already been saying some real crazy shit to Tamisha and The Vixen that is worse what either of them have ever said about y'all so. Moral of the story as usual, RPDR fans are something else.

Qui Qam

All this because Monet didn’t appreciate her fashion dog collars? I mean.

Patrons only 😤😤😤

Lmfaoooooo I blame Bob 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Gucci R

I just think it’s funny That Alaska and William seemingly don’t get the same kind of backlash...

Not Tamisha blocking me because I said Monet wouldn't give a damn if she reads her season 10 looks. For someone who has 30 years experience, Tamisha should know that drag is all about the kiki, reading and throwing shade. Its the fundamentals lol.

You are not bullies. This is stupid.

Jacob Graves

You are not bullies! You’re just being honest and poking fun at people, it’s not that serious and your reads and honest opinions are one of the reasons why you‘re my go to favorite podcast of Ru-Girls because you do not kiss anyone‘s butt

She's clearly mad at WOW and directing it your way...

I just wish tamisha wud have eased up a bit! It could have been more playful and there isn’t anything really wrong if she wanna read Monet looks .. I have no issue with being entertained by pettiness or I woudlnt be Patreon 😂😂😂. She jus taking it too far and being too serious

Not Misha threatening to send 'Pookie & dem'.

Nita

I would donate money for y'all to film a reenactment of this journey that begins with Monet receiving Tina's text and on. True Ruhollywood story.😹

Unicornacia

Almost everyone else is already saying it but I also don't think y'all are bullies. Tamisha is, in fact, delusional. She's perfectly entitled to her opinions and being able to premiere her upcoming dog and pony show but she is also entitled to whatever reception she gets from that. Positive or *negative*.

Is Tamisha Iman Tyra Sanchez’ drag mother?

Honestly, this feels like someone was gassing Tamisha up all season sending her clips of Monet “reading” her without the context of love and respect that the podcast has for her.

did I get Patreon just for this video, yes.

LMFAAOOOOO

_gzuku

It’s just odd to me. Y’all have been on drag race before. Y’all have listened to everyone critique your ass up and down while on the show and after. Plus the whole thing makes no sense “I’m gonna show you that you don’t need world of wonder or drag race to have a career, and I’m gonna prove it by posting something ominous and threatening to drag and read girls from wow and drag race, with viewers I would have never had without world of wonder or drag race”. I hope it ends up just being like funny and shady and not that serious. Now if ROSE wants to come for y’all I understand 😂😂

Some heaux on the drag race subreddit tried to claim that you have been publicly and constantly insulting one of her friends (a local queen) and someone replied "What's her name, May Dup?"

My bullies were never my cheerleaders who supported my work. You have only shown playful humorous critiques that all the girls have gotten. Tamisha is incredibly sensitive for someone who has been in the business for 30 years. I don't imagine her blowing this out of proportion and implying her family will come for you is good for her recovery from cancer. I hope she is able to see the support you have shown her. it's weird that she can't tell the difference between playful and supportive criticism of a competition show that is all about critiquing peoples looks and performaces and actual harmful bullying. How is she going to have years of drag competitions under her belt and not be able to handle criticism from her peers? Good thing she didn't make it to the roasting challenge. she would have lost her mind!

I told myself I wasnt gonna sign up until May so i could get the full month and damn I picked a good time lmao. You two are absolutely not bullies, if I can tell my mom, who understands NOTHING about drag, the shady jokes you say out of context and she can understand that it's not serious then so should seasoned "legends" too.

Blair Saint Clair entered the chat..

The Vixen is... ugh

Dot

poor gurl, you know she’s got problems.

One negative critique and all of a sudden she wants to burn your house down. -

I don’t think you guys are bullies. I thought you were way more harsh on Rose 😂 but I definitely wouldn’t consider what you guys do as bullying. You gave your opinions of all the queens and only 1 is throwing a tantrum.

I won’t lie, the ageist comments here are really working on me. I’m trying not to let it bother me, but it’s hurtful. I’m 56 BTW.

MaryJo Anderson (JojoMama1965)

I’m still holding our hope that this is all a stunt , and y’all 3 are really in on this together 🥲

NubianGoddess

Yeah, I don't think Bob and Monet would agree or like how you're undermining people who are super talented. You're showing typical fandom worshipping and that's really not cool. Stop being such a "pick me" fan. Queens don't need your guilt follow sis.

Kandy watching this like "sissssth I told yall"

GioB.

Monet you are always welcome in London 😂 I’m glad that you guys did Watchery this season as I like a review show and Pit Stop wasn’t cutting it for me!!! Love you both soo much 💕💕

y’all read like half the cast more than tamisha tbh... i don’t think y’all are bullies at all

Molly Walters

I love how Tamisha is like idgaf about what anybody says about me, then proceeds to go on a week long rant about how she gives a fuck about what monet says abt her

Taylor Bullard

She's blown this waaay out of proportion but it's incredibly entertaining so I'm here for it!!

Shady Boots

on the topic about y'all being bullies: no i don't think y'all are. i've been bullied before, and the experience isn't the same when i watch y'all. granted, i'm not the one being talked about. it's the way bob and monet critique/joke/talk about another queen, that makes it feel lighthearted. i think that reading and critique is such a core part of drag. which is just life in general too. when done appropriately it can be a help for improvement, or just a lighthearted fun to not take yourself seriously (person being read/critiqued/talked about). also taking into account the person as a whole, who is critiquing/reading/talking about another queen, is what's important. like my HS bullies were terrible people thru and thru. bob and monet, y'all have proved yourself to be genuine people. TBH i think that this is more of a WOW/Rupaul franchise issue, and monet became a goat for all the frustrations. TAMISHA IMAN IS COMING FOR YOU lol i love y'all

tamisha said she's about to show us how to "reign supreme by giving zero fucks about what people think about you".... while giving MANY a fuck about what bob and monét had to say about her??? this is wild

Sebastian

This title really says it all!!! XD

prsquirtle

I think you're being used as clickbait

andrea faloona

You are absolutely 100% *NOT* bullies!

Love you Monet. I can't speak for others but I've always thought of you as kind and your jokes always seem lighthearted and with no malice.

Respect is a two way street. Elevating is much more regal than vowing to take everybody down... the true queens in my life step over opinions because they KNOW and value their worth.

You both are the realest. Love you both!

Rob

Have you bought your tickets to the boxing match between Monet & Bob vs everybody yet? First class front row seats secured!

The Vixen, the Azealia Banks of drag...

Myron Keith

Also the vixen stays trippin...

Helen Roman

It’s completely WILD that your critiques of Tamisha have affected her her this way. Is she mad because you’ve been in her shoes? Does she expect you to just ... lie?

you guys should release this and let Tamisha see it as it explains a lot and shows her your side of the story. The vixen just want to fight didn't like her before and not gonna like her now. I think one of the reasons why Tamisha was offened is because she has been in the bussiness longer than both of you so she doesnt think someone like you have the right to critique someone like her. As if you are not on her level. That is not my openion of you but I think this is how she looks at this situation.

Viewing party with the patrons!!

I don’t understand why these “legendary” queens think they should be exempt from all types of criticism. It’s the ego for me. Also though part of me feels that it’s not that serious Tamisha is just trying to capitalize on that one thing that made her memorable from the show I.e brown gown stunning, ugh Jesus gross, look over there, the sponge dress....

Helen Roman

This comment section is way more calm than I expected especially judging by how twitter is reacting on both sides of the argument. Anyways Tamisha and Monet are keeping the fans fed during these times so we all winning at the end of the day

Justin Bruce

Tamisha doesn’t talk to Kandy I DOUBT she will be open for a convo with 2 winners of drag race. Goes to show level of growth as a person.

Tamisha’s colostomy bag is filled with rage.

Ill Elle

And NO, YOU ARE NOT BULLIES. Not in the slightest. And please record yourself watching the “show” on Tuesday and post to patreon. I don’t have Instagram or Twitter so I get most of my Drag Race news from here and YouTube. I’m very interested in what your reaction is and your thoughts.

Rebekah

😂😂😂 Zoom viewing party?

Calling Bob THE Drag Queen and Monét X Change BOOTLICKERS, of all things is so insane to me, as someone who’s struggled with being black to this day there have literally been times where I’ve listened to Sibling Rivalry to feel more connected with my blackness, calling these two queens anything less than black activists is doing them a disservice

Roman Leonard

Y’all are the problem. Y’all came for her every chance y’all got lmao I’m just playing. Honestly I think the whole thing is a bit too much. Y’all came for Joey J, Tina, Rose’ and Utica a lot more than Tamisha. But, everybody isn’t going to react the same way. Tamisha is just one of those people who doesn’t play and I can’t be mad at her for that..... But Bob did kinda instigate this situation.

I was never into Tamisha but I entirely loathe the comments she made on blackness. Disgusting whenever I have to see that shit. I kind of hope she changes her costume, changes it arouuunnd for the better but I don't really care about her and just want her to leave y'all alone. She's old, bold, and clearly set in her ways of being an overly aggressive person. Y'all have propped her ungrateful ass up during the course of the season so this is just wild that she's trying to paint this narrative. She is an ooold lady and needs to act her age and not 12, as Miss Leakes would say.

I was contemplating whether or not to stop being a patreon bc of financial reasons, well... Let's just say I'm glad I didn't because this is worth every last coin lmfao

Sending you my love and support Monét! You weren’t in the wrong, you were just doing your job. If Tamisha wants an apology perhaps give it to her and apologise for making her feel a type of way, it wasn’t personal, you just gave your opinion of what you saw. Everyone is allowed an opinion

Say that shit! Tina was regularly getting [pause for effect] BURNT on this podcast but Tamisha wants to post up like she's the victim. Ok, Mister Ma'am. Sure.

Dishing out left and right but can’t take when someone dislikes her outfits

I smell a stunt but I'm entertained xd

Nicolas Leiva Herrera

lol this whole thing is some BS! I feel like tamisha has some other stuff going on that she's taking out on y'all... love you bob and monet!!

Im gonna need a sibling + grandma rivalry with tamisha

Why is this video not loading for me!!!!???

Malique Morris

As someone who’s gotten in trouble for blogging/vlogging about seasons of the show I was on—both my own and others—you always get in trouble with the people who are insecure about their performance, whether they never placed high, or they lost early, etc. The people who came in, did their best, and had a good time doing it never seem to mind the humor, or the commentary. But if you’re in a headspace where you feel like a failure, or feel like you’re viewed as a failure, those defensive walls go *up*.

I feel like Trixie needs to brace for impact, too.

Katiebot Nicholtron

Tamisha said she wasn’t mad, she is pissed. I know the queens get a lot of shit from “fans”, but watching your reviews never made me look at her differently. I really like her, but I think she is thinking too much about it, taking things way to seriously.

Rebekah

Unfortunately, she comes off as acting very much like her age to me. An immature old man with preconceived, outdated notions of notions of blackness who isn't emotionally developed enough to not resort to aggression when he has a problem. I hate to see it.

ooooooh tea. maybe.

_gzuku

Lmao can we get a sibling watchery season of the tamisha Iman show PLZ

or use them to our advantage!!!

_gzuku

Well, I went from this podcast to Tamisha’s live then Bob’s live, then Heidi’s live and then Sum’s live. There’s a lot of feelings going on. I feel for everyone and wish it could be resolved. I especially appreciated how Bob is always so thoughtful and measured in what he says and how he says it. I may be old enough to be his mom, but I’ve learned a lot from him this year. ❤️

MaryJo Anderson (JojoMama1965)

You guys do single in on certain people like Blair, Rosé, and Tamsiha (Monet).

by the way from a fans pov from comments and watching the drama unfold its unanimous that y'all do not bully people, I think you guys are fine to be honest

Shaun Arthur

I love y’all. You are not bullies at all!!!

Miranda Moore

Bob went live after Tamisha and just clarified that both Bob and Monét love and support Tamisha and to not send Tamisha hate because of this. It was mostly a kiki in the comments with Monét, Vanjie, Aja, and Bianca. Bianca joined the live as well to say that she’s the type that doesn’t care about everyone’s opinions and that everyone will have something to say about you regardless.

Jalen✨

I never clicked a video so quickly before in my life.

I think we gotta eliminate Bob. He manifested him winning drag race, he manifested Ru getting in trouble for fracking, and now he has created the Tamisha vs Monet fight. They're just too powerful.

Oooooooooof

I think shes choosing to speak on Monet because the WOW contract won't allow her to speak on them, and they are who shes actually mad at.

Elia Mascorro

Also, it sounds to me like Tamisha is more annoyed at the fans than Monet right now.

Katiebot Nicholtron

I personally don’t think y’all are being bullies, however, you never know how someone is going to react to the things that you say in jest. Not everyone is going to think it’s funny, and some people will take it personal, and I think that is also a part of the gig. When you’re doing a review, I think some backlash will come along with it. I do think it’s problematic that she’s attempting to make an “example” out of Monet, when other RDR girls have given negative commentary on girls looks. I think y’all do a balanced job at giving praise where it’s due, and throwing shade where it’s due from your own points of view.

Natty

I don’t think y’all are too harsh but I do think Tamisha made a point about picking favorites. I don’t think it happened with all of the girls this season but definitely towards the end there where times where you guys were more opinionated on some girls than others. Like rose got all the critiques lol. Which she did deserve a lot. Mik and Symone did fall shot that often so didn’t need the critiques but Kandy did often. Like the beast look was very bad and didn’t get the same response if this would have been worn by another. Plus Kandy had the worst look in the final with the peacock look, her make up and hair did not look good. But roses looks were town apart more. So I think Tamishas point about that is true. However I think some people don’t get that reading sense of humor sometimes.

I wonder what Tamisha thinks of the Pit Stop

Eric Wong

Alsoooo Bob literally wheezing with laughter through most of this KILLED ME

👏

So. Tamisha clearly has some pretty strong feelings that she does not think are being understood and/or respected. Like. She’s saying she’s fine, but if she was fine she wouldn’t keep going off. I don’t know. At this point I feel like everyone involved must feel pretty shitty. I hope everyone’s ok. Keep on keepin’ on.

Katiebot Nicholtron

When you have listened to enough sibling rivalry/watchery, you KNOW there is no menace in anything they say. Monet has love for everyone and you're both amazing queens. I would hope that tamisha will realise she's gone entirely and unnecessarily too far however I don't hold out much hope. I think you can see monet looks a bit sad with all this and that's such a shame. Monet roll up your sleeves and get ready for Tuesday. X

Honestly I could watch your banter all day long because it feels genuine, nothing on this podcast is off limits and that's why you both connect with your audience so well. Thats why our viewing parties meant so much to us before *The Iman Dynasty* ratted us out.. Do y'all harp on jokes, yes. Did I ever see it as bullying , no. All you wanted to do is make content that is relatable, meaningful, and entertaining, When I first joined there were only like 1600 of us now there are over 13k... Tamisha only heard what she was given to hear, in my opinion because this would have Never been a "thing" if she listened to every episode in its entirety. She's big mad and she might need Iyanla to fix her life.

Kenya E

I just heard the news & saw the video this was just what I needed! Here for you Bob & Monet ❤️

Rosie Goldstein

If Tina Burner isn’t doing international interviews then idk why tamisha needs a video

ok no one asked but here’s my two cents: i think bob & Monet are a super small part of the way tamisha feels but right now she’s focusing her energy on them. I feel like her main gripe is the way she was treated and edited by WOW, but since the critiques on Watchery at the finale are most recent that’s where her energy is. She also kept talking about tooting and booting so I’m assuming she’s going to make similar videos on Raja and Raven and possibly Trixie and some Pit Stop guests as well? Idk but I feel like what bob and monet said wasn’t enough to make an entire video on it…

Someone did an entire breakdown of this video on the drama subreddit. Who's the rat letting out our exclusive content??

Tamisha is just doing too much and contradicting herself. She is acting so childish over a few bad critiques. Mama that’s life! I’m sure other drag race shoes have done and said the same if not worse! But she picks out the only black show! It be your own people who try and tear you down. The vixen included

Wait! Why don't Vanjie and Silky like Bob?!

Really hoping Tamisha, Rosé, and Blair come on the show!

Genevieve

Monet at the end Pep:👁👄👁 🙅🏾‍♀️ Bob and Pep: 🦅 🦅🦅

I was in the middle of watching this when Tamisha went live again today...😳 guuurl, this whole thing is insane. You were only giving your opinions, and even though she said she was fine, she was clearly not. I love Tamisha, she was one of my favorites, but this whole issue in my opinion has gone a bit too far and she should’ve reached out to Monet and Bob in private if she was so bothered, you don’t need to bring the whole fandom along and invite the trolls in 🙄

Y’all treat everyone fair. Ain’t no damn bullying going on. You two more then any other podcast give y’all honest opinion while always still keeping the person feelings involved. Tamisha need to sit her ass down and go watch some fucking stories or something. In as far as this vixen is concerned let her just do her, if I had a dick like hers I’ll be pretty upset with the world too. When they don’t know how to use their words to express how they feel, they will always result in violence. Y’all gave her more then enough flowers.

looks like yall have gotten some new patrons out of this so, big thanks to tamisha! 😂

Paige

Hi Mo and Bob! I don't think you're being bullies because the criticism you give isn't nasty or mean. You're stating an opinion that isn't about the person directly. If you don't like a Queen's shoes (for example) that isn't a direct read on that Queen as a person.

drag them 😭😭😭

Larissa

if that's bullying, please bully me

kimberlizard

I missed Bob's live :( Can someone fill me in?

tamisha is about to drag that cat to filth

This fully! I am a fan of Tamisha & even felt she didn’t get the fairest of shakes on the season but all this bullying and lashing out doesn’t sit right with me—and I mean on Tamisha’s part. I get she feels hurt and we don’t know what comments, etc she’s getting on social from the Drag Race fandom (but we know black queens have gotten racist response before) that may be feeding into this... BUT that doesn’t give you a license to attack and threaten other queens or even other people. I do not like these comments she’s made about her family coming for queens she’s put on her “outs” list. That’s bullying and it’s some unclassified middle school mean girl shit.

World of Wonder would never have such a crunchy podcast 🧐🙃

Kell Ryland

Very that, and out of all the well-known drag race recap participants, Monét is arguably the nicest....

honestly at this point i think she’s just doing all of this to get more views and i cannot wait to see what she says on tuesday lol

Nora Hasler

Thank you for the content. This felt very chatty and brightened my day :) I also think everybody is just jealous of Monet and Bob cause they are gorge

Sally Clarke

All I thought of at the end was, Raise your hand if you feel like you’ve been personally victimized by the sibling rivalry podcast.. 🤣🤣🤣

Look what made me join pateron, lol

sheldon gravesande

i definitely don’t think y’all were bully her. Y’all were just giving off your opinions🤷‍♀️

The vixen questioning their blackness and saying they just attack black queens was the most annoying thing to come out of this.. I honestly think Tamisha is just sensitive.. Dunno where the vixen came from.

Siba Tobias

I was attending this conference and one of the presenters said, “BIPOC folks always think of criticism as an attack. We have to shift our mindsets to think of critiques as love.” Now I know this isn’t always realistic because some people do criticize to hurt people and Black people have felt that pain for so long! It’s systemic, tbh. There’s not much one can do to heal that trauma, it takes internal work. Tamisha’s feelings are valid, but I think it’s a culmination of things. I enjoy Tamisha but hate that she’s coming for Monét. I’m glad that both of you are responding in a careful way. I love you both! Especially Monét! 🙏🏾

Nicollette

I don’t understand because you two are so supportive to so many drag queens.

Patrick Tanedo

To answer your question, no way do I take your comments and joking as bullying. This is how I joke around in my circles with my friends. I mean, if someone gets hurt by it, which honestly doesn’t happen often, I will apologize, but the intention is always just to mess around and it always comes from a place of love so that’s how I see it. It feels that way with you on the show. I love it. I’m still honestly so confused about this. With the amount of love y’all have given Tamisha on the show...Unless there is beef off the show that we aren’t seeing, I really am at a loss.

the way that i signed up for patreon for this specific video

By "this show" I mean RPDR by the way, not your show.

I think Tamisha is in a very dark place after watching this show, and I applaud you for not turning into some Tamisha hate-fest.

Yes!! The race chaser thing is true. They discuss producing and critique the shownitself much more. I cant stand the way they just say everything is fierce tho. We have to be able to have opinions right?

EdHead

It’s all fun and games til you start trying to gatekeep blackness. Bitch no. So only black folk who grew up in the projects are black? Is she equating poverty with blackness? Gross.

Jamey

And the the thing is Monet even went back and recanted what she said in a later episode saying she didn't fully understand and that she now understood what Bob was saying to her.

Cush

Also for the family thing she was more talking about saying stuff back to haters online

Justin Bruce

It's unfortunate that Tamisha Iman is so defensive about her critiques. How could she have lasted this long without being read or criticized? I think she believes that just because she's been in the industry for so long that she demands respect but longevity doesn't equal respect.

The pile on is way more problematic than the actual podcasts from Bob and Monét’. I started out from episode 1 liking Tamisha as a top fave and never heard anything on the podcast that felt like digging at her. Monét is one of the nicest queens and it just doesn’t make sense going after her like this.

Y’all giving us out Patreon subscriptions worth! Love y’all! Stay unbothered.

Jesus Aguilar

Honestly - this is comedy. If someone doesn’t get that the “drag her” comments aren’t serious, I don’t know what to say. And y’all were Tamisha stans from the jump. Bob is president of the T-Hive! Tamisha went live again today. I hope she’s ready to have a change of heart.

Sonia Dawson

This whole thing is so ridiculous. It makes me think that nobody knows what the word bully means any more. Having an opinion one someone's outfit is not bullying!

Tbar

You guys aren’t bullies. Point blank period. It’s just like with PitStop and Blaire, Bob was hired to give their opinion, they gave it, that’s it. You guys are honest, and that’s something we need more of.

Nobody is coming for Trixie or Violet..

Siba Tobias

Lol idk if she's exaggerating or not I just watched Bob's live and Vanjie says she loves her.

Cush

The way y’all ate Kandy Muse up more times than Ms. Tamisha Iman

Not bob ted Cruz-ing Jacob! 😂🤍

Bahaha “slob the drag thing” 😂

Tamisha is in her feelings. She has her reasons for being hurt, but are those reasons based on facts? She needs to take a deep breath, process her feelings then see what the best path forward is. Doing something out of spite is only going to make it worse for her. I hate to say this but as an older adult with experience, I expected more maturity from Tamisha instead of escalation. Monet and Bob, you are self-aware queens especially when it comes to race. The rhetoric Tamisha spewed about blackness, struggles, and insinuating that you are bringing down other black queens to benefit is problematic, harmful, and not true. Considering you are black, pro-black, and committed to anti-racism and after the good you've done, her words might sting and you are frustrated. It feels like because Tamisha isn't reacting in a healthy way and is lashing out, she has caused you some level of harm or pain that I honestly don't think you deserve. I know I can't emphasized what Tamisha and other black queens feel when it comes to their under appreciation and horrible treatment they receive from World of Wonder and the fans. So, I don't know if I should have an opinion on this, but just because Bob and Monet are more famous, doesn't mean they haven't experienced that ill treatment. I hope that instead of intra-community fighting, there will be open dialogue to deal with the issues you all face. I also get that your opinions on this show are held to a higher pedestal. But you have criticized queens fairly and have UTILIZED your show to uplift and defend black and brown queens and called out racism. You making jokes and entertainment about other queens is not sending the message that they should be bullied or not appreciated by the fans. In fact, you are totally against that. Unlike many Drag Race reviews that fall into racist tropes and biases, you've tried hard to not make this review under that system. You don't deserve this. Tamisha IS community not industry and she's done a lot that should be commended. But, it seems that she thinks Monet and Bob are industry and not community. I hope she does her research and sees that you are all fighting the same fight. I really think that to a certain extent, she thinks Bob and Monet have sold out other black queens and monetized bullying them to be in the graces of the white people/industry. I'm guessing she's using those wrong beliefs to justify her actions about coming for Monet and that she's "ending a fight instead of starting one" and just defending herself and other black queens. Maybe I should take Tamisha at her word, but these are not the actions of someone who doesn't feel attacked. This could all be avoided if Tamisha actually let go of some of her pride and admitted to herself that she has been affected by the criticism. I know it's hard to show vulnerability but YOU ARE A GROWN MAN, ACT LIKE IT so that more black people aren't hurt. It would be sad to have the white fans and industry who have CAUSED these issues to enjoy and benefit from the drama and fights between black queens. Maybe Tamisha doesn't realize this but she is doing what she is calling out which is monetizing coming for other black queens. Rant (and psychoanalysis?) done.

Ru provides a platform and then to some extent it is up to the queens on what they are going to do with it and the rest is up to the fans and a bit of luck. If other queens start piling on to this mess it is probably because they are not happy that Bob and Monet have taken their 15 minutes and made stronger careers. It probably has more to do with how they feel about their own fortunes in life than anything Bob and Monet specifically did to them. The Tamisha that left the show wanted to be on All Stars and had positive things to say about the experience. It will be interesting to see if she has some legit beef with production that changed that feeling or if fan reception or editing has made her upset. Can't see how though because from where I was sitting the fans were living for everything about her. I hope something positive comes from all of this but Bob and Monet I love you guys no matter what. This past year especially you brought so much joy and laughter to me.

Marchmain

But what’s the Vanjie/Silky tea of disliking Bob? I would never have expected that one

DecemberArtis

THAT WAS SO CUTE <3

Bob’s laugh at the beginning cured my depression and my hangover

A. Christina

Bob doesn’t take ANYTHING seriously 💀😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

NubianGoddess

Not Bob blaming Jacob for Tamisha coming for Monet 🤣🤣

I literally finished watching this, typed two words, then got a notification that Tamisha was live. According to her live she has been feeling bad vibes from Monèt every since Monèt interviewed the season 13 girls. I still love and respect Tamisha but I feel like a lot of her feelings now have been gaslit by her feelings for World of Wonder and the DRAG RACE fan base. I think she believes that WoW has a hand in this podcast, which we know it does not, and also that all fans of this podcast are Drag Race fans. Now I am, but I also know that there are people who hate Drag Race that support and love Bob and Monèt. I believe that Tamisha has sort of invented her own narrative to a lot of things and really should have researched some of it. Also I remember her mentioning something regarding Monèt and costumes. She said something like girls whose best look was made of sponges have a lot to say but don’t even make their own costumes. I took it as she’s saying that she believes that Monèt did work she had to do on the show, but now uses designers and wants to come for her, someone who makes all of her outfits. She expressed so much but the only underlying factor is World of Wonder. I believe that she has an issue with World of Wonder’s creation of “Fashion Photo Ruview” because it has led to other queens doing the same thing and maybe she has issue with queens feeling they have the right to do it as stand alone entities as opposed to under WoW who she would expect the shade from? I dunno. But as has been stated she is entitled to feel how she feels. No one has to agree if they choose not to, but her feelings shouldn’t be invalidated. There is always a cause to a feeling and the root of that cause needs to be addressed. But it can’t be if Tamisha won’t express it fully.

Damn Bussy already has a video about this?

Tres

Seeing Bob so happy makes me happy :) That being said this is definitely a problem of things being taken out of context. People probably shared a little 15 sec clip of a mild critique but don't show the whole 5 minutes of Bob and Monet living for Tamisha. Now other queens like the Vixen and Coco are piling on because of the hype but I doubt they've heard the critiques themselves.

Lauren

There's a lot of shit talk on every RPDR commentary shows but the thing is... we can't predict how something will resonate with someone when you're critiquing their work. Sure, if a person in on a judging reality TV show, they're exposed to being judged outside of the show. Still.... that doesn't mean the person will be fine with everything they hear. Also I guess that you'd be hyper aware of all the comments and opinions flying around about you. I don't think anything said on the podcast was MEANT to be bullying but you can't control how ppl react to it. This goes beyond you.

I don't think you guys are bullies, (maaaaaaybe to Utica)

The only people that Bob and Monet bully is each other 😂

If only tamisha knew how big of stans you both are lmao

Jessica Hill

“If the Vixen comes, I hope she doesn’t get up and leave” 🤣🤣

NOT “Bob the Drag Thing and Macaroni X Cheese” 💀💀

Y’all literally roast AND praise every queen that crosses our screen. When people are upset about other things in their life, all they can hear is the negative. That’s on facts. This shit is wild tho!

DeShawn (@frootytreblez)

I love Sibling Rivalry/Watchery. You both share your honest and hilarious opinions, and you never bully any of the queens. I think in certain moments you may joke about a certain queen for too long that it may come across harsher than it is (Rosé this season), but I also completely agree 😂. You do such a great job.

Jacob Kelly

What was the joke at the end? I couldn’t hear it.

Erin Barnes

Not it’s a speech impediment Bob 🤦🏾‍♀️ lol DRAG HERRRR

Kiera King

I think when you spend a lot of your time watching and listening to Bob & Monét’s content, you understand their laid back sense of humor. Bob and Monét are 100% honest, but don’t take it too seriously. But I think if you zoom in on ONE particular comment or episode, the context of their sense of humor isn’t as strong. I don’t think these two comedians are bullies, they’re professional commentators on the sport of RuPaul’s Drag Race and they’re good at their job.

Violet

This is totally blown out of proportion. Y’all keep your spirits up, us black folks just have ridiculously high standards placed on to us to where we can’t ever critique because of we’re seen as using “aggressive” rhetoric and overly critical. I don’t see the yt queens being made “the example” of 🙃 interesting

what actually had me shook is when she said other rugirls are in her DM's saying that they have felt bullied by bob and monet? im really tryna process this and be neutral even tho im ofc a huge fan of bob and monet

Who else is here after that Instagram live? lmaooo

I don't think you guys are bullies at all however I think to people who don't constantly listen to you some of the stuff you guys say might come off wrong. Denali once said on live that she feels like Bob doesn't like her so it has to be something more than Tamisha is feeling. There are something you have said about Tamisha that comes off a little wrong. Fans also calling Tamisha washed up and that she needs to retire isn't right and only pushes the narrative more. Tamisha's feelings are valid. I hope you guys can speak this out once Tamisha is cooled down

Justin Bruce

I do distinctly remember many times where Tamisha was uplifted on this podcast. I will say, aside from outfits the thing that could’ve been very hurtful was the tone of Monet’s take on Tamisha’s colostomy bag. I think with something as sensitive as Cancer and life/death, I and Tamisha would’ve appreciated if Monet spoke on her feelings with a little more empathy and care. I do not think Monet intentionally discounted her condition but like Bob has said many times “you could say whatever you want but people are allowed to feel whatever they want about them.” I would really like to see an olive branch extended to Miss Iman. I’m this current situation I’d like the outcome where Tamisha is further cemented in the group of black queens who continue to find success after the show. I really feel like an honest conversation where both sides feelings are aired(on a podcast or no) would really do some good. Bob and Monet are intelligent and empathetic people and there is still the possibility of peace in this scenario.

Honestly, the only people I thought might would get even a little pressed about the reviews would be Tina and Rosé. Lol Poor Monét doesn’t deserve any of this. ☹️

Rattlin_Bones

Hi! So to answer your question I don’t think you bully people on the podcast. I think you give your opinion in a very goofy and funny way that is not designed to harm anyone. You never said “I don’t like Tamisha” it was always about what she was wearing or doing not who she is. Because two things can be true, I also respect Tamisha’s feelings on being critiqued. Plus it must be hard to get people in your inbox piling up. Yet her feelings are not facts and a lot of what she stated was not accurate. I still respect how she feels and she has the right to say and react how she wants to. The part that made me a little sad was when she questioned your blackness. It was backed up by no facts and unnecessary. I laughed a lot watching this video (Bob you play too muchhh 🤣🤣) and it’s nice to see that you are not taking it to heart. Well all in all I’m still rooting for everybody black. Purrr. 💅🏿

Abra

RIGHT!!

Alim Nabe

Can we get a stereo lol?

Like Tamisha, you signed up for a show where they obviously get reviewed on. Where is that same energy for the actual WOW shows like Fashion Photo Review, or The Pit Stop, or even the other drag affiliated podcasts.

Okay but same ive been wondering this and can't find a way on the app

babbyyyyyyy this live was crazy... now its bob's turn lol

I’m genuinely surprised by the amount of other Ru girls who seem to be supporting Tamisha’s rhetoric. I don’t see the bullying but go off sis

did you guys just see tamisha's live????

Not related but how can I change my profile picture? Lol

Well at least we got the family reunion we wanted in the lives chat 😂😂

Ana

I live for shade and everything but this is just.........weird. Having a harmless opinion about something does not equal disrespect. It was so clear in the watchery episodes that you guys loved her a lot. I was so surprised to see that this was even a thing LMAO. I hope Tamisha sees all the clips and realizes you both had nothing but love for her. Love you both !! <3

patreon account

Bob and Monet are literally at the top of the drag race girls when it come to fame and winning off of the show, how do these other queens not realize that Bob and Monet are keeping them relevant?!?! This is crazyyy

BOB are you going live after Tamisha’s IG live just now??

So. Today has been a LOT.

Katiebot Nicholtron

I can’t watch this yet but I just have to say I am a fan of ms. Iman but her live rubbed me the wrong way. Monet has always been congenial and loving. Bob and Monet are doing the fans a solid by being honest and reviewing a show we love. They aren’t nasty - they just give their opinions. I think tamisha needs to lighten up and I hope bob and Monet don’t start to censor themselves.

Bullies? God No.... You are both drag queens AND comedians whose LIBRARY never closes... and I’m grateful for that little fact.

Honestly I'm saddened that Tamesha seems to be Sabotaging her career. Her anger and giving in to conspiracy theories is crazy.

Dee Ramsey

110 fucking percent y’all are not bullies. That old hoe is just in her feelings and somehow thinks when someone doesn’t like her, it’s anti black. FOH!

Ok but I thought READING was a part of drag culture? If Tamisha Iman has had so much experience in the drag scene wouldn't she already know that? Also as for the Vixen, she's doing the same thing she's ACCUSING both of you to do, just for the sake of staying relevant/wanting to "fight". The Vixen's reasoning isn't making sense because only 1 out of the 4 queens they "allegedly" have beef with were black. Tamisha, Utica, Blair, and Rose..... so the Vixen and Tamisha both need to make it make sense.

I think you two may just be a means to an end with Tamisha. She keeps mentioning being "under contract" and "once that's over I'll tell the full truth". It seems like she has other things to say about a lot of things - World of Wonder especially - so I think she may be taking this beef with Monet as an in. You are not bullies.

Matt Houghton

Also if you haven’t watched Bussy Queen’s video about this I think they do a good job timelining the issue. I think there’s more behind this than just personal opinions on a podcast. I think Tamisha is trying to take on the system (WOW) but taking it out on monet Here’s the video: https://youtu.be/GvbXACviOkU

HammerSmith

y’all are very much qualified to give critiques to drag queens and you have never crossed a line before...

Dylan Lamar

Tamisha's LIVE that is happening right now is popping off. Bob, Aja, Kandy, Widow, Akeria...

Ali J

Im dying at the thought of bob having a roundtable of tamisha, tina, rose, blair st clair, utica, vixen all telling her how they hate her lmao

Anthony St. John

You are absolutely not bullies I think you are both always fair in your judgements and always have a great balance of praise and criticism for all queens on the show

Not tamisha being banned from some pageants 😂. Very telling !

Dewayne

1. Tamisha is definitely in her feelings 2. Y’all are not bullies 3. Colleen better watch her pussy they’re coming for her next lol

Not done with the video yet but I don't think Bob and Monet are bullies. I feel like they kept it pretty equal towards everyone, including eachother and themselves. That's the fun of the podcast. Honestly I said it before but I feel like Tamisha was trying not to crack up during her posts soooo..

Effie

tamishas point is that it isnt you and your jokes its the fans and the people who go for their favs too hard

Joann

this tamisha live is... wild!

This is a perfect way to make money lol I subscribed because of it

Salvatore ♱

And Bob is IN

Ali J

I’d love to see the fan reaction if it had have been Kandy who made them videos.

Eirn McGuigan

i don't think you are bullies at all. yes you play too much sometimes lol but what i love about sibling rivalry is that it feels like two friends talking about the episode who also happen to be queens who experienced being on the show too. your critiques/opinions are informed and authentic and funny but never feel hateful when theyre negative. yall know how to give critique and give credit where it's due imo <3

el

What makes this podcast and patreon worth the subscription, in my opinion, is how open and honest y’all are with each other. About anything — not just drag race. Tamisha doesn’t have a clear picture and I truly believe this is a publicity stunt for her new channel. Not a good look, but will probably get her those views. Can she maintain them? I guess we’ll see. Ps: The Vixen IS the villain from season 10.

45 minutes? lovely stuff

this episode gave me my gay Black life...let me go buy merch from Bob, Monet, Vixen, Tamisha, and CoCo...

Monet is too busy to watch on Tuesday (Maybe Monday), she's filming all day 💅🏼

Tres

I love Monet’s cackle and Bob’s wheeze. Perfect combo always!

Ellen Knudson

bobs laugh always got me weak

fay alatas

Gee I wonder why she hasn’t gone after other Ru girls who do recaps or are on the pit stop this season like Alaska, Willam, Trixie, Katya, Violet, Ben, Gigi, oh wait…

This whole situation is so ridiculous :D you’re obviously not bullying anyone

She’s live again RIGHT NOW.

Ali J

Just like some hood bitch shit! Girl at the end of the day you mad over an OUTFIT!!! . Not yo mama, yo kids, yo life, but clothes!!!! These girls gave you flowers. Tamisha is jeopardizing her career and being typecast as messy and ghetto over opinions that are for entertainment! Girl, have several seats. Your followers were because of these two. Just ghetto. Monét I’m with you all the way. Y’all were harmless.

Ashley Brown

I doubt Tamisha actually listens to the show and is just going by bits and pieces that her fans are bringing her online. You are not bullies by any means. Tamisha is being weirdly immature about all this; and It doesn't sit right that she wants to make Monet an "example." It's not cute girl.

Tres

Yall arent bullies AT ALLLLL. Y'all are shady but you're honest and it's always said with humour and self-deprecation too. Tbh I wonder why white queens who do reviews don't get the same kind of "bullying" labeling

TJ

Coming back to comment again bc Tamisha went live. Bob and Monet, please don't take her comments to heart. Y'all are NOT bullies! Y'all did not grow your careers and patreon page by listening to her comments or any nasty "fan's" comments. Keep up the good work <3

One thing that I found really disgusting is the Chicago queens using this as a way to tear another queen apart that’s not part of their clique.. Why is the Vixen and Miss Toto and whoever else in all of this.. They like to preach all about supporting black queens, and they are indeed good at verbally kicking racists on Twitter, but they also like to attack black queens that they’re not friends and share opinions with.. Which opens the door for their messy followers to talk shit about Bob and Monét saying they are bootlickers, and “not all black queens support black queens” (which is ironic enough) WTF is wrong with them?? I don’t get their mentality..

Bruh..... Exactly, other (white) queens seem to be able to get away with this shit no problem, when their critiques are even more harsh. I like violet but there's no denying she's a cunt. Bob and monet you two give fair and honest critiques you're not bullies at all, in fact you're some of the most accepting, honest people from the show. Tamisha is just taking the critiques very personally

Anthony St. John

At this point I’m wondering if tamisha/the vixens real problem is with review shows in general. And their drag being judged by people that aren’t the judges on the show. I think that drag race does invite a lot of unsolicited judgements from the fan base which I can only image feels bad! But with all this being said, the actions of fans is not your fault! People make their own decisions to be shitty in people’s dms and that’s not on you two. Especially for just expressing that you didn’t like an outfit 💀

Bob and Monet are far from bullies. One of the main reasons i subscribe and support you 2 is because you're both talented, hilarious and aren't malicious AT ALL. I also want to add, that you both all are free in your blackness and black joy and expression. Sometimes Queens like the Vixen who center most EVERYTHING around being black and our plight... that shit gets exhausting. Its heavy emotionally. I'm black, I'm all about "all black lives matter" but, its needed for us to have spaces that are light, happy, joyous without screaming every other 5 minutes "IT'S HARD TO BE BLACK! YOU SEE HOW THEY TREAT US!" There's a reason Bob and Monet reach so many people on an authentic level, while still being black and lgbtqia+ advocates.

You guys are not bullies. You make a show about Drag Race, with the perspective of two past contestants and two experienced queens. You aren’t obligated to love everything Tamisha does because she’s a legend. Like y’all said, you even critique Ru sometimes! Tamisha is willfully ignoring the many times you’ve amped her up and urged people to support her. She’s picking and choosing what parts of the show she wants to hear. Also lol at Vixen calling you guys anti black.

Tamisha doing it for clout! You guys are not bullies. I’m not fully on board with supporting the YouTube show because I’m not with her tearing my girls down but I’ll catch a few clips on Twitter to see what it gives! T3AM Monica ride or die.

I was confused by the whole thing. Her coming for y’all’s Blackness rubbed me the wrong way. I’m curious as to why she’s only coming for Monet when I’m sure Yuhua, Raven, Raja, Trixie and other Ru girls with platforms have had negative things to say. Why does she feel she needs to make an “example” of a Black queen that has supported her? I live Tamisha but this is wack as hell.

Dolce Benjamin

People have to understand just because we both are black doesn’t mean I have to support you just because I don’t agree or like something you do doesn’t take away my blackness if that was the case everyone would had behind Ben Carson ass when he was running for president

Actually I loved all the ru girls because of Sibling Watchery. Honestly...

whats happening with Tamisha my god.!!!!

She needs to see this....

You all are not bullies at all! As you said, you have praised Tamisha! I almost feel like she must really be hurting in some way to come for you all. I also respect how bob is not minimizing experience Tamisha is having. I think she is obvi hurt. Also, I cant now not ever say Tamisha Man is coming for you, when I hear her name!

I’m not a drag queen so take my opinion with a grain of salt but I thought the sisterhood was being able to say “I don’t like this outfit” or “why wear these shoes with this outfit”. They’re reads but not from a place of malice. Like all drag is valid so if you like what you’re doing just be you. Also Trixie and some Pit Stop guest *cough* Violet*cough* have had some more pointed thoughts than Bob and Monet. Love them all. But we can’t just point fingers at the indie podcast when literally the official recap show is doing the same.

HammerSmith

Monet: I WAS SO COMPLEMENTARY TOWARD HER SHES FUCKING DELUSIONAL. HERE'S YOUR FLOWERS SHOW ME UR SHOES skflcjckcjcj

Anthony St. John

Bitch I’m 5 seconds into this and I can’t stop laughing! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Donnie Chanel

So glad I watched Joseline Hernandez video first. Y’all had me cackling...cack-llng! I was going to pause my support until next drag race y’all review. But y’all have so much good content on Patreon,. I’m staying bitches

The irony of Tamisha accusing yous of influencing fans to think about her negatively when I only became a Tamisha stan because of Sibling Rivalry and then changed my mind because of her own damn actions...

I don't think you're bullies and I absolutely agree with Monet that Bob contributed to Tamisha's success with the fans.

I hate messy shit

I would love to be victimized by Monét 😏

soCreigh

Tamisha Iman is doing too damn much girl it’s never that serious and Monet wasn’t lying with her critiques.

Ilayjah Gary

Tamisha is live right now talmbout she ain't scared

y'all are not bullies at all saying you don't like someone's dress is not bullying. she can dish it but she can't take it and that's just pure immaturity

LAWDDD THE TAMISHA DRAMA

Sean

Does anyone think Tamisha's using this as a strategic publicity move? What better way is there to grow a following than connecting yourself, positively or negatively, to highly successful people.

Dr. Pamela Chollet

I just upgraded my membership from cousin to sibling based on this patreon exclusive.

chris vega

Not to talk about the least important part of the video but Monet kissing Colleen's paws was so cute lol

Yuhua drags the girls constantly every week on YouTube and they choose to attack the two people who clearly are doing it in fun and kindly. Imo if you allow 1 persons thought of you control your emotions like this you need to work on that yourself

Dillemma Rodriguez

I hope the girls accept the invitation. A roundtable about criticism within the sorority is a great idea!! 🌈💙🧡💛❤️💚💜🤎💕

Jewell Singletary

Biiiih I couldn't get through this video before Tamisha went live again!!! But I will say that anyone who has seen you guys reviews can clearly see that you guys respect her and it was a running gag for Bob to "instigate." But Monet always said she wasn't here for it. It's really crazy how this has blown up and just a 🤏 bit of research would have shown that. 🤷🏾‍♀️

Janelle

Tamisha cannot be serious going on with all these lives about this mess saying she’s not mad and don’t give a fuck what other people say... like, everything she’s doing is beyond insecure and just sad to see. I was a fan before, but this mess is just something else. She’s the most insecure senior citizen on the internet right now 🙄

I’m 31 so I’m accustomed to the grittiness of drag. DRAG HER; I’m not interested in the hype or optics of this particular situation cuz I’m able to recall more significant drag beefs that has happened and been resolved away from ‘commercial social media’. It’s part of the drag industry (and life in general), you’re not always gonna see eye to eye with your peers. But instead of fans just sitting back and enjoying the show/tea/telenovela, they wanna add to the drama so bad which blows things outta proportion 💀. The hardcore drag race fans need to sit this one out for a second

I love Bob trying to pull Monet back from brink of pettiness - it’s “MONET STOP IT MONET” every time and it tickles me

Idk if we the patrons can really answer whether or not you’re bullying, since we pay you to bully us with new content when we’re trying to sleep. But yeah, I don’t think you bully, I feel like you talk shit like my family does and I love it. I don’t want a fake nice podcast where you just say nice things. Why would anyone listen to that? I come to have my opinions affirmed by two drag experts OR to listen to you both be wrong when you disagree with me, of course. I listen to Race Chaser too and they are much more complimentary of the queens on current seasons and more critical of the show/WOW/Rupaul/judges compared to Sibling Watchery. when they review older seasons, I feel they’re more honest about the looks. But that’s a different way of doing commentary and it’s not any more or less valid.

Caitlin C

And, I was gonna go to Utica!! 😭😭😭😭😂

LMFAO

_gzuku

If anything y’all criticized rosé the most😂😂 it’s definitely not bullying you’re just voicing your opinions

Tamisha is on live right now!!!!

_gzuku

Also, Tamisha saying that if you critique you need to be fair across the board. Bob and Monet are fair across the board. Like it's true most of what they had to say about Tina Burner throughout the season was negative even though that's their good friend. They dragged Joey, Utica, Rose, Denali, literally all the queens at some point or the other. Most of them had more negatives brought up about them than Tamisha ever had! They even had some negatives about the reigning queen Symone at times. Like Tamisha insinuating that Bob and Monet pick and chose with their critiques is still a stretch!

Daniel

Oh shit oh shit oh shittttttttttt haven't watched yet but I am READY

I personally would not consider what you two are saying/doing as bullying. You are just not sugarcoating things and are honest and you two are meaner to each other than to anyone on the show. I think that Tamisha is more hurt by your critiques than she likes to admit. And it's ok to be hurt and upset about something someone else said, but to say that Monet used every chance she got to shit on Tamisha? What show was she watching because clearly it was not Watchery. And to see The Vixen and others backing Tamisha just honestly makes me so sad. Why does nobody call out Raja and Raven? Or Trixie and Violet on the Pit Stop? Or Bianca? This is all so crazy to me.

Larissa

Definitely not bullies.

I wonder who will win box fight between Monet and Tamisha

saleh

It’s really too bad that she clearly just watched a clip and reacted because you both gassed her up the whole time she was on the show. Her anger is totally misdirected.

Not Elliott with 3Ks not getting an invitation to the podcast

Love you guys but just don't turn your backs on Tamisha. Show her love despite of everything that's going down

Shes on live right now saying Monet had 4 months to get it right 😭 time to go on witness protection

Ana

I love you guys a lot and I personally don’t think your critique (especially of Tamisha) ever strayed even close to the territory of bullying, but I also think you’d be hard pressed to find dissenting opinions about you two amongst a group of people who pay to hear what you have to say.

Y’all aren’t bullies. Plus neither of you were ever disrespectful when talking about Tamisha’s drag- you just gave your opinions which is what happens when you put yourself on a show to be judged and critiqued. Also like tamisha was talking about Monet’s looks? She can’t come for monet cause Monet killed all stars and those looks were everything. Tbh I just think Tamisha is butthurt because they went home early in the competition. Honestly just come back and kill All Stars if you want to showcase more. 😌

My comment is because you guys asked... I genuinely don’t think you guys are bullies AT ALL! In terms of Watchery, you are just giving your fair and honest opinions. However, there are times where you speak about people and throw the term ‘problematic’ around often. Nina Bo’nina Brown, Azealia Banks, and most recently Trisha Paytas. I feel that at times you speak on their ‘problematic behavior’ without getting the full story. Can be seen as bandwagoning at times. Not necessarily bullying.

As soon as I finished this Tamisha’s ass in live on IG again. At this point I’m just watching all platforms with snacks. Hopefully it all resolves itself though!!

And perhaps Tamisha is really baiting y’all for views for her new show since the IG live shit she been doing since the season starting aint worked out for her

Corey Green

The title 💀💀 glad yall are able to laugh at the absurdity

Anthony St. John

THIS IS THE CONTENT I SIGNED UP FOR

Luis Miranda

I don't think you are bullies. The reason we love your podcast and the Watchery so much is because you give genuine opinions, regardless of how you feel personally about the queens. In general it's just you guys having a conversation and giving your opinions. Of course Tamisha is entitled to her feelings but the whole thing comes across as so petty. Also, there are other review shows by Ru Girls so why is she only coming for Sibling Watchery?

Lisa A D

Y’all aren’t bullies. I was talking about this situation with the roommates and one of the roomies said Tamisha is being ridiculously overly sensitive. And that’s she’s taking this entirely too seriously so it’s probably a stunt. Girl, it’s a lot either way. Also, I haven’t even gotten my shoes yet and now she said no more refunds on the video directly after her verbal attack on y’all 😂😂

THIS THE ONE‼️‼️‼️‼️

This is Wild! I have so much to say to defend this podcast and Monet but we all know how they hyped Tamisha up from the start. 🤦🏽‍♀️ Bob definitely plays entirely too much but that why we all love him. Bob please make this right because they are both petty and I don’t want to see how this all ends. 👀

Diamond Nicole

this is exactly what i needed this sunday

Tamisha is live right now and it seems to be a reply to this.

Kelly

you are absolutely NOT bullies literally one of the main reasons people watch this and other drag race review shows is to hear your opinions and why the fuck would u a. lie about ur thoughts on something and b. ONLY have nice things to say that makes no sense. we all critique/judge queens on the show when we watch it and most of us do not have the same insight/experience that you do but that is literally what the show is for. for people to watch it and have their opinions on it and just bc you guys share it publicly on a large platform does not make u bullies at alllll. also if anyone should be upset about this season of watchery it’s rosé (who i still think you did not bully but you were the harshest on her) but she’s not upset bc she has better things to do. i would absolutely LOVE to see her on this show tho i think it would be so good!!!! also yes tamisha’s feelings are 100% valid and i’m sure it’s not easy being critiqued but her reaction to this whole thing is absolutely not valid. i hope this made some kind of sense lol

Nora Hasler

This is amazing but also like sibling watchery is public everyone can view it! Tamisha blocking monet and then going on rants about her is just ridiculous when they were team tamisha for soooooo long. This is great Sunday entertainment. You are both honest about every queen good or bad, period!

Kristina C

I think this whole thing is a publicity stunt.

Madame

I think the problem being had here is overfamiliarity, in that Tamisha doesn’t know y’all and y’all don’t know her. It probably comes off as more personal to her because of that, but I think that Bob’s invitation reaching out to Tamisha would definitely be a step to resolving any personal beef that may be had, if she’s up for it. Also Monet definitely makes asides in this video that definitely show that she’s bothered a little too lol

I don’t think you’re bullies. You were giving your honest opinions about EVERY queen just like all the other podcasts and YouTube shows do. She is entitled to being hurt by the critics people give her but it also feel like she’s trying to make a clip of your critics bigger than they were since most of the time Tamisha was talked about during Sibling Watchery was to be praised. And tbh, there were other queens that in my opinion were critiqued more harshly than she ever was so, idk. Love you both and best believe will be tuning in on Monday or Tuesday 😉

alwayscarolina

since she apparently is coming everywhere how long it take her to get to jfk

Flatbush Junction

TAMISHA ON LIVE RN

U both made great points during this video. I’m SICK of the narrative that Tamisha/The Vixen has put out there that y’all aren’t “black enough” or “everyone who is black isn’t pro-black” or whatever she said. Clearly Tamisha was hyped up over one or two short clips from Wacthery and blew the whole thing up out of proportion. I genuinely think she’s envious about the growth of your platform and support of the fans (therefore she assumed this was a WOW production). Who are they to measure y’all’s Blackness. She can’t take critique well, claiming that y’all “read” her. Not everything is a read. And also giving the chance to have ppl like her and Vixen come on the show, just gives them the floor to further victimize themselves...

Corey Green

This was really addressed perfectly, like there's no way remarks of any kind should get you this angry and if you focus on the 10% bad vs 90% good thats a personal problem lol

Tamisha never said it was bullying. Tamisha said you cannot "pick and choose" or spare your friends. Be fair across the board. I don't see Bob and Monet being unfair, but if she has the receipts then let's see them. It's not that she has a problem getting read, she said that. But I think she is coming from a place of being upset with the show, but she still can't speak on it. I wish these NDAs would go away.

I hope Tamisha knows what she is doing. She is putting her own foot in her mouth. The narrative was this seasoned queen doing her thing and being beloved. This right here.....she is creating a sour taste in peoples mouths especially for criticism about a look, while being lifted up as a wonderful queen. I hope her team recognizes you get more bees with honey and tell her to quickly change what she is doing now with tell all and creating enemies instead of allies. You can get views for bs but you don’t grow a following being a negative Nancy that is unwarranted. #100k #thevixen #wewererootingforyou #madatthewrongtwo

Brittany

I would like to say this is all fucking hilarious. Tameisha is doing just what you said Monet and that is building a fan base around hatred for you. Please do a watchery on Tuesday for this ish. Monet I Freakin lovvvveee you and you can come to Chicago!!!

Y’all tamisha is going live rn she found us out we gotta hide 👀👀👀

Dante Arias

Not bob making a Google doc of tamisha’s direct quotes shitting on monet 😂😂😭😭

Mads

If Tamisha is insinuating that the occasional negative critique from Bob and Monet caused the fans to blow up her inbox with negativity, where was she when people were literally calling Kandy's mom and threatening to kill her family? It feels like everything Tamisha said about Kandy is also true about her. She can dish it, but she can't take it. Y'all never said anything inflammatory or remotely close to bullying about her, and for the most part promoted her and praised her.

Daniel

Why do Vanjie and Silky not like Bob😱?

Wyatt Sabajo

MONET. TAG. US. INNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!! BOPBOP!!!

Flatbush Junction

this

aina

Dang

Monet looks so good wow

Adam Travis

As a gay black man, Monet and Bob have changed my life completely because of their activism within the black community and how much they have encouraged other African American queens. These queens are far from bullies and only stating an opinion on a show, if you don’t look good that day they will tell you. Tamisha is most likely sensitive and her feelings are valid but to discredit what bob and Monet has done is truly heartbreaking.

oh this

aina

If it does comes down to a boxing match..........if my sisters swinging so am I 😂

Monet is right, this podcast drove a lot of engagement towards Tamisha. Your criticism has always been valid and it has certainly. never reached the point of bullying. If people can’t take it maybe they shouldn’t go on national tv?

Just curious are u sharing this video with Tamisha/Rosé/Vixen and so? U’ve extended several public invitations to them on a Patreon exclusive I’m confused 😂 just making sure this thing actually happens can’t wait

Husam

At least y’all got yer shoes. I bought mine at Bob’s recommendation and all orders after February apparently got lost. I won’t ask for a refund because I still stan a legend like Tamisha and I’m here for all the machinations.

Nah BS, Raja and Raven use to read people to filth before they were told to pull back because people thought they were “bullies”, if you’re on tv you’re opening yourself to getting critiqued. I absolutely LOVE Timisha Iman but nothing Bob or Monet said was brutal they were way worst to Elliot lmao that little black dress runway was an example. They gave her credit where she deserved it but people want real critiques and opinions, her runways wasn’t perfect and people have opinions. To quote “it’s not personal it’s Drag”

I agree with a lot of ppl on here that is not bullying to me, at all. You’re drag queens giving honest reviews on a show about drag queens. Of course you have to expect a certain amount of shade but nothing you said read to me with malicious intent, telling people to bully her or anything like that. I think she’s probably way in her head about this

Tanya

No - y'all are right. You totally aren't bullies and I feel like some of Tamisha's anger comes from misinformation or lack of information. Girl has to do her research before coming for you

I think sibling rivalry started before race chaser but wasn’t as consistent as it is now. They talked about it in the one with willam and Alaska

Honestly, Bob and Monet have always extolled Tamisha for the type of drag and legacy she represents. If anything, the podcast made me more engaged in watching legendary Tamisha videos on Youtube and buy her merch.

And no - you are NOT bullies in any shape or form!

Lala's London (Layla)

By no means do I think that you folks did anything wrong or said anything incendiary about Tamisha. Like Monet is saying, you both raised her up. But I think Tamisha and Vixen are probably coming from a place where you need to be protective of your community and 'keep it in the family' when you get downtrodden so much by the mainstream. I just hope that you all can use this drama to get more fans and have fun with it, like getting on Tamisha's new show and vice versa.

y'all better give pandora boxxx her flowers for having the first rugirl podcast!

Ed

I think of course tamisha has a right to feel how she feels, but like… y’all say what you say in FUN. And To me y’all aren’t bullying. You don’t hold praise or punches on anyone that’s on the show. So it’s not like you’ll are targeting anyone… thats just my thoughts. This got blown way out. And I love Tamisha, but I expected her to handle that a little better.

Robin Fierce

Honestly

Bob looks nice w his hoop earrings ✨✨

Monterica

Definitely don’t think any of your critiques and reviews are bullying by any stretch of the imagination. The humor and hyperbole is part of what makes this program so fun and engaging. I wouldn’t change a thing. Xoxo

I will bump up my Patreon tier if you have an episode with all the victimised by the podcast crew come on

Tessa Oh

If anybody is a bully, it’s you too being bullies to each other

mykah

I have the memory of a fish, so I barely recall what was said about Tamisha during the season, but I do know that y'all (Bob and Monet) have supported her through merch and on social media. But let's be honest, Tamisha is not the best with technology. She's not subscribed and checking all this stuff out, so she's probably only hearing bits and snippets or what fans are sending/telling her. That's what she's reacting to, probably. The troubling part is we will probably not be provided that context before her Tamisha reading session. That said, the larger issues brought up by this are worth a discussion: how the production treats queens, how Ru's show and the fandom and WoW only favor certain queens, the role of criticism in drag, etc.

Okay so yall just gonna look over the fact that tamisha said she could out preform yall with the 'bag'... Yall are too old to fist fight but yall could make a crazy bruck doing that

alec hathcock

Why does bob keep saying this is the first rugirl podcast? Didn’t race chaser exist for years before??

I’m so proud to be a sibling here 🥰

Monterica

The title is already having me scream

Dillemma Rodriguez

I better not see any of this footage spread around — ima b pissseddd

Chanelle Alston

Not cancelling the Utica gigs! lol

sheer panic

Forget the Vixen… she just wants to fight with anybody

FeiztyLeo (Jayson)

I think one of the reason we as listeners like Sibling Rivalry so much is for the authenticity of your opinions, as opposed to others podcasts where it feels significantly more sterilized and doesn’t really say anything significant. But even when you have a negative critique, I feel like you guys are fair and not abrasive—- you say “it’s not for me,” for example.

You bully each other which I live for but in all seriousness you guys are not bullies I don’t follow that story line. I signed up to be a patron for you two because of the intellectual and honest conversation keep bringing it y’all are amazing.

what i think about all of this is part of being an artist is allowing yourself to be critiqued, even if that critique is harsh. your art is ultimately a product. once you put it out into the world, it is no longer just yours. others have the right to comment on it & toot and boot it. sometimes people are gonna say what you gave today is a chop. that’s life. you can feel a way about the critique, that’s your prerogative. you can even respond to the critique in what ever way you see fit. but nobody is above people dissecting and pickin apart their work—not beyoncé, not monet or bob, not the legendary tamisha iman. so yes, i want to affirm tamisha’s right to respond and feel a way about what monét and bob said. if she wants to read y’all on tuesday, go on ‘head. but no, i don’t think y’all were bullying her.

I disagreed with y'all a good amount of times during this season of Watchery, and all I did was yell my responses to my phone like a crazy person and then move on with my day excited for next week's episode. Yall are not bullies, you're professional drag queens with a review podcast. Because both of you have competed and WON the show, I believe you're much more entitled to give critiques than any of the rest of us. It sucks that due to the racism in the fandom people will take any little critique about a Black queen and run with it, but it's extremely unfair for people to try and hold y'all accountable for that.

I feel as if you guys are commenting on people’s performances and looks on drag race, which you both experienced. Wendy comments on people’s personal lives within the media, which to me is different?

Bob manifested this, they better be front of the line when the Iman dynasty comes witch hunting 😂😂

Ana

Can I just say... I'm in bed nearly vomiting from a migraine and this is both exactly what I need... And the last thing I need. Bc who knew laughing makes nausea so much worse 😭😭😂❤️

Let's get this roast a-cookin'.

Like you guys give fair and honest critiques. Is she gonna come for Willam/Alaska? Raven/Raja? Violet Chachki? If anyone should be coming for y’all it’s Rose 😂.

Cdiggi1

I'm obsessed.

Marco Chromedend

I sincerely hope that Tamisha and The Vixen come on the show and talk. If this was how Tamisha felt, it should have been an internal conversation. I hate how all this is being aired out in public.

Also when it says PATREON EXCLUSIVE, let it be PATREON EXCLUSIVE

can we get more colleen cameos

Charlie Weaver

I guess in Tamisha's defense she's probably used to being adored and fawned over in the Atlanta drag scene and when she went on drag race (which we all know is a different beast all together) she didn't get that love she's probably used to. I personally think Tamisha is an AMAZING queen and I sure hope we see more of her. I also hope she takes you up on your offer to join the show because that would be one of a helluva kiki.

Tamisha said herself, she won't take criticism from people who she doesn't see on her level. She appears to think Bob and Monet are not her level, or if they are on her level it's due to money. I would not say y'all are bullies, but Tamisha never said that. I think criticism is heard very differently when you are the target of it, and the listener may think it's incorrect, uncalled for, or personal---whether it is or not.

In the words of Bob: this is tew muych

Frida Sapphic

Look, I am not downplaying Tamisha’s feelings at all, (I’m not gonna address the Vixen because she is just desperate to be part of any fight) but this feels like she is very much trying to ride the coat-tails of Bob and Monet. Anyone who watches Sibling videos knows that you guys were hyping her up, she chose to jump on a few comments and use it to advertise her own show which she has coming up. It’s ridiculous, and for someone who has been in the business for 30 years - Gurl I would expect you to have thicker skin than to be THIS upset about a few jokes two fellow queens made. I’m glad the two of you just laugh it off because I would hate to see you both be upset by petty shit like this.

Lala's London (Layla)

I don’t think y’all have ever said anything that I thought was uncalled for!!! On the full versions I think the reviews are balanced, maybe not for specific episodes (since people obviously have good and bad weeks) but overall I think y’all do a good balance between critique and praise!!

Also, where is the same energy for pit stop and race chaser? I heard she had some things to say about Trixie too so there’s that. Secondly, I don’t think you both are bullies. I think worst things have been said about rosé than anyone lmao but that’s became a meme on the pod and like you said it’s not like you’re saying she’s a shit drag queen

Frida Sapphic

I don’t think you guys are bullies, I think what I love about the both of you is that you hold yourselves to the very same standard as all the other queens. You’ve made it clear that your looks on your season sucked. Monet would be the first to laugh at herself before anybody else, so it always makes me laugh when people use the sponge dress as some sort of dig at her. Do I disagree with some of your opinions on sibling watchery? Yes? But I don’t watch you guys so you can validate my opinion, I watch you guys to hear about yours. Even if I do agree for a second that you guys are “bullies” the person who might have a case is Rosé and you don’t see her being pressed about it. Ultimately, I appreciate the fact that you guys are being lighthearted about it because there is no point matching her energy. As for The Victim…I mean Vixen, just ignore her, conflict replenishes her electrolytes so don’t even engage her.

Leauxyal

Paused the video to say that no, you two are absolutely not bullies. I also agree that Bob may have been a major influence in Tamisha becoming a huge fan fave

SaltyPepper

It's a good day to be a Patron 😌😌😌 thank you QUEENS

Never change. I love y'all so much. The bigger the platform is, y'all are destined to not please everybody. I can speak for a lot of us because we are Patreons for a reason and that's because we value and love you and you bring us joy just by being you, being silly, and unapologetically speaking your minds. This new drag queens being Miss Universe thing is so fake and dull and y'all are a breath of fresh air. All the while, we feel and see y'all's big hearts. Not everyone is gonna like it, and to that, I say Their Loss! Long answer for, no I personally do not think y'all are bullies :P.

Y’all are NOT bullies , periodt.

Y'all are doing a review show, so it's completely logical that you give an opinion & you make it entertainment with jokes. It's all for fun, shade, and for the fans to enjoy. You don't promote the spread of hate and you're so vocal about supporting the queens. If someone doesn't like your opinion, then they need to stop watching your content. You aren't bullies at all, you both spread so much love.

I have never clicked on a notification so fast

Frida Sapphic

LOVE YOU BOTH HERE FOR IT

I don’t think ya’ll are bullies. I think you guys give your honest opinions about the queens. However, there is racism amongst the fandom and I do think that non-black watchers may hyper focus on any negative critic of a black or POC queen compared to the others. I think we can all acknowledge that there are things that white queens do and get slack for compared to any little mistake or slip up a black or POC queen does. But honestly I think Tamisha has a good series on her hand if she’s going to read all the reviewers messy crunchy looks. I will be watching 😂

Yea you are bullies, the intent may have been for entertainment but words can hurt. I see both sides as being valid. I doesn’t matter the intent even if you have praised her before, Tamisha is obviously hurt. Do see your position of power and how your fans can use this as an excuse to make Tamisha a villain out of this just because she wanted to speak her feelings. She has spoken about her feeling about ru girls speaking of her but because this podcast has made it a joke about it, I see why she has directly point fingers to both of you

Maybe your patrons are a little biased, but I don't think yall are bullies. It's refreshing to hear honest opinions about the show, and at the end of the day it doesn't come from a place of hate at all, otherwise I wouldn't be here. Love you all!

I don’t think what you do on the show is bullying. To me bullying involves someone in a position of power using deliberate, repeated violence (physical or verbal) with the intent to intimidate, coerce, or control. You’re running a review show where you give both critiques and praise based on the quality of someone’s drag. That might make some queens feel bad but that’s not the same as bullying, just like getting a bad grade in school or a bad book/film/music review isn’t the same as being bullied.

I honestly don't believe y'all are mean. I think you say what's on your mind but that doesn't mean it will vibe with everyone. I like hearing your opinions but that doesn't mean I lose my thoughts in my mind (?) like I don't understand why Tamisha so mad :(

Nelly

but i wouldnt say youre bullies in any sense

Deshaun Dennis

it’s so ironic that I just watch “the one about weddings” where y’all talk about the steak plan... Monet you should had did it

Respect to monet and tamisha this is WIIILLLDDD

Michael

I don't want to say that people don't have a right to be upset when being critiqued but also no one enjoys being critiqued. I think sometimes bad reviews can drown out the good reviews and so people only hear the bad and then feel hurt. But to answer your question, no, I don't think you guys are bullies. If you were a bully you would be calling people names and wishing like ill upon them. I think critiques can just be hard for some people to take. I don't think responding by using insults and questioning someone's blackness is the way to handle a situation though. Like just call the damn person and have a conversation.

Giselle Brown

Y’all are not bullies, AT ALL

i don’t see how tamisha is so bitter. she wasn’t even on the show long enough to even—

i remember when sibiling watchery started and after watching bob on the pit stop...i was kinda set back by the opinions as they seem to be a bit harsher(may not be the right word) but the critiques at first did seem a bit more honest ...

Deshaun Dennis

Something thing that annoys me is how many other drag race review shows say stuff just as shady as y’all and no one bats an eye. Violet on the pit stop literally coming for peoples careers and it was like “haha yas we love a shady queen” or Willam on her review show constantly being shady to queens and the judges. (Also Willam was really up in Tamishas comments as if her and alaska don’t going in on some of the queens… make it make sense)

Sibling Gabe

I personally think that being on the show you open the floor to a lot of critics. From former contestants, fans, the judges, etc. I don't feel you guys ever turn it into bullying or go overboard with your reads. You call it like it is, and move on. For this situation, I believe Tamisha is choosing to focus on the few negative comments you've made about her garments while ignoring the MANY positive you've also said. Bob literally would not shut up about how much he loved Tamisha for the first few episodes of Watchery. Bob literally publicly vouched for this queen and probably is responsible for at least 1/4 of her following on IG. She's bitter about the edit, she's bitter about your comments, she's bitter about WOW, but to single out Mońet and make her *an example* is out of line and the PATREON IS COMING FOR YOU!

Not me waking up and opening Patreon before doing anything else. But I was right; it’s here. The title’s GREAT btw and Bob is tickling tf outta me. Anyway, I’m hoping for the best from this but it’s already so messy. However I’m definitely team Bob and Monet.

Guuurrrl I ended up cancelling the hightop sneakers I ordered because I waited 8 weeks, no shipping notice, and no response from customer service when I emailed. I was sad :(

Y’all are not bully’s at all

_gzuku

you aren’t bullies!! it’s drag! I understand queens being worried about getting painted in a negative light bc it can affect their bookings but in this case Tamisha already has a following. This makes zero sense.

Braidon Hobzek

No, you are not bullies.. it’s light hearted shade, it’s drag. If a seasoned drag queen can’t take a bit of light criticism then they have no business being in this industry. I loved Tamisha this season but I am starting to think that she’s taking small comments as a personal attack and getting other performers like the vixen involved just to drag a bitch through the dirt for no reason.

I think Tamisha is smart - she’s going after two super famous queens. It’s all exposure. That’s why she’s using Monet as an example. If you can’t win the season you might as well be known for being a villain.

I think y’all have a very natural way of discussion that feels like family talk. That’s why I this is my first and only patron account. I am a fan of Tamesha, but I think of my own experiences with serious and long term illness. It can make you raw, it can make you tender, it can warp your perception of other people. I don’t think y’all have been hard on her— at all— but it doesn’t take much to bruise a peach and she IS from Atlanta. I hope she feels better tbh and comes to her better senses.

There are plenty on drag race recap podcasts that say FAR worse than you all ever have

Omg! I’m READY for this tea!🤣

dylanlately

Let that messy old men in a wig do her thing... dont stress this Monet!!!!! We re ready to fight for u!!!!

pyxis

I think tamisha is in her feelings. She been doing this for 752 years but can't take critiques.

Y’all are people reviewing characters on a tv show... it’s not bullying when you repeatedly vocalize how much respect and love you have for the queens. You’re only talking about your opinions of what you see each queen present on the show. It’s nothing personal. I understand Tamisha behind upset 1000%, but I don’t understand the logic behind her coming so hard for Mo unless it’s to build hype and get more views.

Joe Kemprowski

I don’t feel that you are bullies and I sincerely believe that this problem is taken way out of proportion. I wished y’all could talk this out on the podcast or in private, but not this IG live shit and Twitter shit

Wyatt Sabajo

You’re not bullies. You’re just expressing your opinions

I'm only 15 minutes in and I just want to give Monet the biggest hug. I don't know you or Bob personally but you two seem like such sweet and honest people with an amazing sense of humor and I fucking love you two ❤️

Larissa

this is easily the funniest thing to have happened since I started listening, but I can tell Monet is a bit hurt! I would be too. Please don’t stress too much, just enjoy the absurdity of this

Caitlin C

You both are definitely NOT bullies! Your honest opinions are the reason why I appreciate your content. We shouldn't have to give everyone a participation award so that no one's feelings are hurt.

Bonnie Po

The title alone is enough to satiate me the rest of the week 😂😂😂

Jalen✨

oooooo bitch i'm ready to get off work!🤣😭

Bullies? Lord no. Shady and funny, but it never seems to come from a bad place. It's always done with humour and not meant to be mean. There's a BIG difference between the humour on your podcast vs being a bully.

I don't have to say this because I feel like yall know this already.....but trolls be trolling. Gotta take them at face value because they will say ANYTHING. They do be entertaining tho lmao

Alex Strong

Y'all dont post online please. We need more subscribers😂

Lmao!! 5 seconds in!😂The title😂

Bullies? Absolutely NOT. You two are the most honest and real and ENTERTAINING queens that do review shows.

Loge

I’m HOLLERING at how tickled Bob is at the beginning! Real tears 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Bob also does that thing where he’s like “OH SO U THINK SHES A PIECE OF SHIT? SAY SHES SHIT AND SHE SHOULD QUIT DRAG. SAY IT MONET🗣🗣” 😂😂😂

Empress Akilah

Tamisha Iman is Coming for VIEWS! 😭im fucking dead but period

Tamisha Iman should start doing an Instagram Live segment called “Tamisha Iman is Coming for YOU”? In her previous live she said she would read queens from A-Z. So I was thinking each live would be the next letter of the alphabet “Tamisha Iman is Coming for YOU: A Queens”, the next live, “……B Queens” and so on until “Z”. I would LOVE to watch this!!!

I’m already dead. “Today is Saturday, May 1st” like Monet has to establish a timeline in case she goes missing

Ali J

"in the campiness of it all" is truly the best description of this whole situation.

sheer panic

Bob crying laughing has me in stitches😭😭😭😭😭

Cush

Alright yall dont snitch. This is family tea

Caption SCREAMIN

the headline alone omfg

I’m dying at the beginning. Have to go to work now but will be thinking about watching this vid ALL DAY 😂😂😂😂😂

Jessica Johnson

"i want to take this seriously" bob says as hes crying laughing STOPPP

Scouts honor no recording guys come on

Adrian Araiza

LOL I love y'all and I love Tamisha too but Bob.... THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT LMAOOOO

FeiztyLeo (Jayson)

Can the google doc link please be shared in the patreon I’ll become a stepdad for that lmfaooo

Stephanie

not the coming for views lmaooo

Bob definitely contributed to Tamisha being a fan favorite as she is. Bob hyped up her merch a lot and made me excited to get some! All y’all drag queens fighting makes me so sad 😞 I love everyone involved and hope the feuds end soon

Cavazos Arte

I’m so glad y’all ain’t make us wait Jesus!!!🙌🏾

IM 4 MIN IN CRYING LAUGHING

Stephanie

This Patreon subscription is so clearly the best decision I have made in the past year.

Not Bob’s lovely wheeze laugh making my dog whine 😂

This is exactly what Bob wanted and he is living for it 😂😂😂😭 he instigated the entire thing, and he is tickled pink! Content definitely worth the coins! 🙌🏾

Let's gooo

Katie H

I never clicked so quick LMAO Tamisha really be sending people to yall Patreons cuz I first subbed when the Kandy and Tamisha fight happened HAHAHAH

Forget the RHOA reunion tonight, this is all I need

GIRL LET ME GET INTO THIS GIG

Owen

Oh yeah! Just as lunch time approaches for me aha, I’m READY

Tyler Varney

Bitch I am so ready for this lol

no but seriously, i love you both sm. seeing people come for you and drag you over this situation is so frustrating bc you are both some of the most down to earth genuine people i’ve ever came across and i don’t even know you guys irl. i wouldnt pay for anyone else’s patreon, but you both are so worth it. anyway let me watch the episode now. love you queens 😭😭💖

THIS TITLE.

Ali J

I'm so glad I got Patreon to experience this historic event as it happens

We know the cousins will share this. They are on that dumb shit lol

Terrah Card

Glad is this out so quickly!!

Kevin R

Ooooooooohhhhhh this is messy 😂😂😂

Sequoia

monet IS RIGHT bob totally instigated this whole debacle LMFAO

Karen Carlos

Not Bob laughing for the first 2 minutes.

Gifty K

Jumped on this!! 😂

i got the notification on this and clicked SO FAST. omg. This is just the most over the top silly petty drama and I'm living.

Listen, I’ve been heated this entire time seeing all this slander on my favs! I was ready to fight, cuz the whole thing screams “let me get this last 15 mins of fame” and come for Monét and Bob and I’m not here for the reindeer games! Anyways, I love y’all so much...lemme watch this episode now 💀😭❤️

sade Tuitt

EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR

Isabella Kelley

The fact that this is 43 minutes long, so here for it!!!

Omg

Jonah Picknell

Someone call Jerry Springer!

Faye Tality

OMG OMGOMG

Isabella Kelley

Omg omg I screamed you guys are so prepared!!!

THE TITLE 💀 you both kill me lmao

Oh fuck yes! I am so excited to watch this; but I shouldnt be one to live for drama. Monet is fr so nice (usually) and I do feel bad you guys have to deal. Much love from Kansas!

YESSSSS I leapt out of my seat

I find it very funny a lot of queens start coming for Monet when this happens. Shows that some people can’t fight without a team. So many bigger situations to be talking about and they choose Monet.

the quickness

Braidon Hobzek

I joined at the perfect time *sips tea*

I really hope this isn't a video of 3 Black folks fighting 😢

BBBBBBBBBBBBIIIIITITTTTTTTTTCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE WAY I CLICKED THIS SO FAST 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

W.S.

43 MINS!! Gonna eat this upppp

Mak Jones

screaming

Joia G

This is all so sad and after hearing about Janet Mock makes me feel like something is off in mercury or some next planet

Bliptor

Thanks god I’m a Patreon because gurrllll 😂😂

Tamisha was really pushing it 🙄

Makeema

Let me grab some popcorn 🍿

Misha

Thiiiiiiis 💕😂😂

Roberto Martinez

What they are saying is don’t copy and paste on YouTube cus we scared of tamisha iman and don’t want her to see this HAHAHA

Pigpen 🇸🇻🇲🇽

The caption tho 👀 😆 cough* cough*

Luna

yall know ive been waiting for this !!!!

Honestly i can’t stop thinking about the situation. It’s been annoying as fuck seeing people like The Vixen and Tamisha on social media basically questioning yalls blackness and implying that y’all are anti black. As a black teenager it wasn’t even until i saw you BOTH on drag race that i actually resonated with a queer, fem, black person who i felt represented me. Y’all truly made me proud to be black. I love you guys ❤️

Sibling Gabe

I’ve never clicked on something so fast

Shane McConnell

WAS WAITING FOR THIS. 🖤

Courtney Knight

Oh I needed this right at this moment!

This title!

BITCH I BEEN REFRESHING THE PATREON WAITING FOR THIS

Carlos Solorio

A minute in and I’m already CACKLING 😭😂😂

The tea is hott

Dominik G

Gonna need whomever is trying to spill the 🍵 outside these walls to stop 🛑 Bc like Rihanna said, this is what we came for 😭

Leah G

IVE BEEN WAITING YES YES YES

I was itching for this 🤣🤣

It's the coming for views for me

Bilal

LETS GOOOOOOOO BOB & MONET TO FREEEEDOMMMMM!!!!!! ***DJ CLUE***

I’ve been waiting for this !!!!!

Yaaaaaaaaas 🥳

Lala's London (Layla)

LET'S GOOO

crystal Bepsi

OMG Not “Coming For Views” CTFUUUU🤣🤣

Ive never moved so quickly

the gangs all here bitch!

Derek Williams

HERE👏🏾WE FUCKIN👏🏾GO👏🏾

Not me running to the post as soon as I saw Tamisha's name lmfao.

Now I don't feel guilty for not answering the phone to get called into work!

Bilal

Ahhhh I turned on notifications to be here as soon as this dropped

Amanda Nguyen

WHEN I TELL YOU I CLICKED SO FAST

My body woke me up at 6am this fine morning bc they knew I needed to be awake when this dropped

NOT THE FOR VIEWs😭😭😭😭

Arjahn

i clicked so fast 😭😭

Ok so we all ran here right?! 😂😂

YES

THIS TITLE IS EVERYTHING

oop

Damn I was about to go to bed

Caitlin C

It’s 3am in Aus, but I clicked so fast

i never clicked on anything so fast :D

Chris Sins

i been WAITING for this one

i was halfway through movie, but I pause that shit real quick when I got this notification

Here for being in this fan group right now.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!! I'M SO FUCKING EXCITED THIS IS ALL HAPPENING!Lslasd;lkas;ldka;sld

Joey Beaver

im not a snitch ♥️

aina

👀👀👀

Brielle O’Elle

I feel like we’ve all just collectively been waiting for this notification

William

This title om f

OWEN MCKINNEY

Or share it on tiktok

had to pause cooking to watch this

Roberto Abril

LMAOOOO THE DESCRIPTION

Brilliant title

Aaaaaaah! I have never clicked faster.

I've been waiting for this 👀

Max Rollins

LMAO THE TITLE

Bryan Todd

Uh oh. Here we GOOOOO

We’s is UPPPP

Edward C

THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS

Jazmin

I’m in church and CLICK TOOOOO FAST 🤣🤣🤣

LMAOOOO

I leaped

Omg yass

jguy

Oh I don't want there to be beef 😳

RefriedBeansUK

I broke my finger clicking on this

Yeaaa, finally!

Danny

HERE WE GO LETS GET INTO OT

Joseph Shanahan

We’re all for the details right ? 😂

Right. On. Time.

QueerlyBeloved

THE TITLE LMAO

Jacob

The way I stopped everything that I was doing

I’ve been waiting for this one. TURN IT UP

Patrick

The girls are fightinggggggg 😂

The way I clicked so fast

Loge

this is so wild

I never clicked a Patreon notif so quick

Ok let’s get this T started

Memohh

This messy ass title 😂😂😂😂

WE UP! And STUCK!!

Madison Long

OOP

Clicked this so quick

Francisco Rodriguez

I tapped so fast lol

Edward C

I’ve never ran here so fast

Dante Arias