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Early Access: Battlestar Galactica 2x12 - Group Reaction+Uncut

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Early Access: Battlestar Galactica 2x12 - Group Reaction+Uncut

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What is your other fave arc?

Andrew B

#SundayRundown The kiss was improvised by Olmos. It was a sweet surprise. I really loved that scene. You can see he’s happy about the promotion but also sorrowful about Laura’s failing health. Ron Moore explained in the commentary for the episode that Lee floating and watching the battle was based on a real sailor whose ship sank in a battle in WWII and described seeing the battle on the ocean.

cstarklady

I am giving Gaius a mulligan on the traitor to humanity thing this episode, because the whole crew of the Pegasus are implicitly or explicitly complicit in a campaign of rape and torture. Also who knows how many civilians died when they stranded their fleet.

Trevor

I# Sunday Rundown "Does she remember?" re: Sharon "So they are the same person..." re: Six The Six held prisoner on Pegasus is not Gaius's Six; she absolutely does not have those memories. When Gaius says "you' he's referring to the fact that she looks like his Six. Outside of what Gaius is seeing in his head, we haven't seen his Six since she protected him from the shockwave that hit his home and killed her in the first part of the miniseries. The show will make it unquestionably evident when it's her again. Around episode seven of the second season, I posted the lecture on Cylons below and was told to post it again, which I did, where it also wasn't seen. Here's a third and final time with hope; afterwards I'll happily watch reactions while rocking back and forth and humming to myself and occasionally screaming obscenities at Mickey for not just clearing confusions, which can be done without spoiling story and plot points: I've always taken the "you ask why" as as simply an abandoned train of thought from the writers, like something from the earlier seasons of Lost where they were throwing things in without having a clear road map as to where the narrative was going. It might have been something the writers were planning to expand on, but non-spoilers, they don't. That kind of thing doesn't keep happening. The Cylons models do not have a hive mind. They do not have a shared conscious. They're machines. They can NOT just draw memories from across the ether. They have memories from one of three ways: What they're programmed to have (Boomer's memory of her childhood that never happened, that was written and created) What they experience (things that happen to them after they're online) A combination of the two, meaning a download. Boomer was on the Galactica. Sharon was on Caprica. Boomer has no knowledge of what happened on Caprica, Sharon none of what happened on Galactica after the initial attack on the colonies. It is NEVER concretely addressed, but given the world they've built, one has to deduce what happened to give them shared memories, and the best explanation is this: At some point before the miniseries, Boomer left the Galactica, probably on leave, and in sleeper mode - not knowing what she was doing - met up with other Cylons and all of the memories and experiences she's had since joining the Colonial Fleet were downloaded. The Cylons then discovered that Helo chose to stay on Caprica, and knowing of Boomer and Helo's history from those downloaded memories, where Boomer knew full well he was into her, chose to begin their 'maybe love + banging = Cylon baby' plan. The memories were then installed into new copy of that model (which is an Eight), and we likely saw the first day in the life of that copy, Sharon, in the first episode when she rescued Helo by killing that Six copy. That's why Sharon has these memories, says that being with Helo and Starbuck feels normal and familiar despite never being there - they're Boomer's memories that she had implanted. They are not telepathic. They don't have Bluetooth and stream their thoughts. I cannot stress this enough.

dibert001

lol yalls reaction to the adama and cain scene was priceless

jasmin

jack’s a good tigh analogue-of course tigh is better-but the actor really brought jack to life

jasmin

Not very relavent but since you asked Admirals are the highest naval rank. IRL they are equivalent to Generals so I'm assuming there 4 different Admiral grades (don't know each one off hand) and their rank direclty reflects their level of power/influence. Here as Roslin said likely the lowest grade of Admiral is in direct command of more than 1 ship, while the higher they go they would normally be responsible for operations of all ships near a planet or through out entire sectors of space. Clearly we don't have that level of organization to worry about Adama getting promoted again XD

Benjamin Donahue

#SundayRundown Suraj predicted Cain getting gunned down by an escaped Six perfectly last episode. That was very impressive. Sharon said to Adama "You asked why humanity deserved to survive" referring to his speech from the miniseries, I believe this explains Sharon's weird line "And you asked why..." on Cobol when she meets Adama. The other explanation that she heard Adama's private talk in the morgue with Boomer's dead body never made sense to me. Also "Hey Adama and Tigh, we're putting a bunch of marines from Pegasus that have no loyalty to you guys with you during the battle... for protection." Adama- "Nothing suspicious about that! Sure thing Cain!" It's a little weird that Adama was not worried about the obvious marine kill team standing next to him.

Frankie H

What a conclusion! A lot of cliffhanger stories often, if not disappoint, simply fail to live up to the buildup. I think this might be my favorite episode of the 3 making up the arc(I’ll try not to type too much). I’ll admit, on my first time watching, I didn’t quite get the point of the Apollo scenes(thought they might be padding for time). But on rewatches I see them as key to the episode and what it’s trying to say. I’ve said before that Apollo is an idealist. Trying to guide his actions by his morals and beliefs while often difficult, is important to him. And in a lot of ways he’s like the canary in the coal mine as far as why it mattered that Adama didn’t choose to follow through on his plot to assassinate Cain. If you’ve ever read about disasters where hundreds on a plane are killed with very few survivors, they are often wracked with survivors guilt. Why were they spared when so many other more deserving(women and children included) did not. They often feel a need to feel their actions if not up until then, then going forward, live up to the gift they were given. That they earn their survival enough to feel they deserve to keep living. That’s with hundreds. For every human survivor in the fleet, about 400,000(!?!) others died in the attack on the 12 colonies. I can barely begin to fathom the guilt that survivors might struggle with with death and tragedy on that scale. Every scene with Apollo, you can see how devastated he is. The scene where he learns what his father is planning with Starbucks help, and the approval of the president, you can see how emotionally devastating it is to him. Two of the leaders that he looks up to and admires, and that are leading what’s left of humanity are solving their disagreement with murder. You can argue they are justified, but it still drives home the notion that 99.9996% of the human race is wiped out, and the survivors might help the Cylons finish what’s left off for them. The scene where he hears it firsthand from his dad…he looks crushed. By the time he hears the president is on board as well, he seems absolutely devastated. He knew it would be ugly after Starbucks killed Cain in front of her crew. He might not have been actively suicidal, but when the reality that he might die before being found was in front of him…I think that’s when he realized he didn’t have a desire to live in the world he thought was coming. I think that’s why it matters that Adama chose not to kill Cain. And while I’m not going to defend Cain’s actions, it appears she may have had the marines on deck to retaliate only if Adama tried something(that or when she read Starbucks reaction, it convinced her that Adama wasn’t going to deal with her like she’d assumed, so she saw another option). And the episodes final moments…I love the final scene with Roslin and Adama(also the track name for my favorite piece of music in the series). I don’t think the kiss was meant to be romantic. They had become close friends, and he saw how shaken she was at the thought of her own approaching death when he mentioned to not lose hope. It was a moment of support and reassurance, and that pained expression on his face to see her like that as Billy helps he to leave cuts right through me. 😞 Sorry for the long novel(I stopped myself from going into every other scene I loved…but it still managed to be a lot.🤦‍♂️). If you hadn’t guessed, these past 3 episodes are my favorite arc in the shows run with only one other as good. Fun to experience again through fresh eyes.

Todd “Canuck” Schmuck


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