Early Access: Shōgun 1 - Group Reaction+Uncut
Added 2025-04-15 14:31:00 +0000 UTCUncut: https://thenormies.com/shogun-ea/
Edited reaction is in the thumbnail above!!
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#SundayRundown IIRC, the entire 1st season adapts the whole historical fiction novel, and this is the 3rd separate adaptation distributed by FX this time. This show was my #1 live action series last year, and all of the awards and acclaim it won was well-deserved. I remember mentioning this to Suraj after the anjin aired and was saddened it was skipped over. Glad you guys finally got around to it and you can just binge it all.
Johnny Blue
2025-02-20 06:22:59 +0000 UTCProtestant crosses don't usually have the corpus (the body) on it; which is the difference between a cross and a crucifix. Crucifixes often have the body on it, and Catholics often use and wear them. Orthodox crosses often have a foot bar. They are aesthetic differences, but they may also be an indicator of something.
Alvin Cura
2025-02-19 20:03:02 +0000 UTC#SundayRundown #Shogun SHOOT! I missed the premiere! But I'm still gonna' yap. 😆 Funny you mention "Game Of Thrones", Suraj. That series has “Shogun” dna, because George R.R. Martin was actually inspired by James Clavell's original 1975 novel. FX is the second adaptation, by the way. The first came out in 1980 on NBC. ALL 3 VERSIONS of this story (novel, NBC-series, FX-series) were hugely successful, and they’re all worth experiencing, because they’re each very different. Here’s a small difference though: In the NBC series, Omi doesn’t pee on Blackthorne’s head, but rather his back. This is because, in the novel, Omi does the same thing, for symbolic reasons, but then, in a scene that was cut from the series, he tells Yabushige what he did, and Yabushige chastises him for not pissing on his head. Thus, in the FX series, they decided to have Omi “go for the head”. 😉 A bigger difference is that, in both the NBC and FX series, Blackthorne’s “piss on your country” line comes off as him having The Caucacity, and getting justly punished for it. In the novel, however, those men spend DAYS in that pit. The reader spends several chapters with them, dealing with unimaginable cruelty that isn’t portrayed in either series. Then, when Blackthorne comes out, Omi tells him - through the interpreter - that he and his men are going to be executed anyway. At that point, you’re kind of on Blackthorne’s side, and “I piss on your country” seems a rather measured response, considering. 😛 EDIT: Oh! Almost forgot. As Marketta said, this is based off real history. Specifically, James Clavell based Toranaga Yoshii off Tokugawa Ieyasu. In fact, Toranaga is SO close to his real-world counterpart that when the novel came out, Japanese people found it hilarious that he even bothered changing the name. Like “Boy, you ain’t slick. We know who this is.” As for John Blackthorne, he is based on William Adams, a real Englishman who crashed into Japan. I don’t know if you’ve played “Nioh” and it’s sequel, but William Adams is the star of those games. If you don't know the history of those guys...I guess I won't mention what became of them, 'cause spoilers? 🤷🏽♂️😅
Nabeshin
2025-02-19 17:53:08 +0000 UTCGreat couch line-up for this, btw - all the best
Charity Konusser (the chonus)
2025-02-19 14:55:12 +0000 UTCYeah, Anjin means pilot, which is funny because it's also the title of the pilot episode!
fr0st
2025-02-19 09:05:35 +0000 UTCHELL YES, this show is absolutely incredible. Y'all are in for a TREAT
fr0st
2025-02-19 08:58:38 +0000 UTCYESS!! IIm sure you guys already know but this shit is about to go SO HARD! First off, Mariko is best girl and secondly, one of the characters dies in the funniest way, its pretty much my favorite death in fiction as a whole.
LJ
2025-02-18 23:20:42 +0000 UTCAnother day to look forward to every week now other than Bleach Wednesdays (and sometimes Movies Saturdays, depending on the movie)!
Sickleweed
2025-02-18 19:54:37 +0000 UTCI wish they woulda shown John was a smart person instead of having him ask for his damn ship every episode
Bob
2025-02-18 19:34:23 +0000 UTCI think Marketa was thinking of "gaijin", which does mean foreigner.
Taishen
2025-02-18 19:12:48 +0000 UTCAlso re: second season - The book didn't have a direct follow-up, but seeing as how the book was very specifically based on on real Japanese history, with name changes, they can pull on actual history to keep things going. Very much looking forward to it!
Taishen
2025-02-18 19:02:24 +0000 UTCFrom here on out, any time you hear English it isn't actually English. They're speaking Portuguese, but we as the audience hear it as English. It was a stylistic choice that I think makes sense.
Smash Bran'Discootch
2025-02-18 18:57:15 +0000 UTCYou're in for a treat! This show is quality top to bottom. Everything from the Japanese dialect used (from what I've heard, as I don't speak myself), the costumes, sets, and acting is all top tier. I'm not sure I watched a more perfect show last year.
Taishen
2025-02-18 17:51:13 +0000 UTCfuck yeah...... Never felt this happy since the last Wed when u dropped bleach
Anateres
2025-02-18 17:46:00 +0000 UTCOMG YES LET'S GOOO
ravel
2025-02-18 17:19:56 +0000 UTCOh hell ya
Rishi Shukla
2025-02-18 16:25:44 +0000 UTC#SundayRundown "Shogun" was originally a novel by James Clavell released in 1975. It was made into an American television mini-series back in 1980. This show is a new adaptation. James Clavell, author of the novel "Shōgun," drew from real history. Blackthorn (Anjin) is based on a real historical figure - William Adams, a 17th-century English navigator who reached Japan in 1600, the first Englishman to reach that country. When the characters are speaking English in the show it's implied that they are actually conversing in Portuguese.
bondbond53
2025-02-18 16:17:37 +0000 UTCthis is going to be so hard to not spoil, so much, all of it. The real story and the fictional one. It'll be hard to explain where one ends and the other begins, and since there is a 2nd season who knows how far they will go with it? I guess all I can say now is these are all based on real people and real events, but it is historical fiction. Yes Anjin is Pilot, navigator the guy who navigated the ship, arguably even more important then the captain. As you might imagine sailing in unknown waters a "pilot" is the most important person. Also very well educated. A pilot/anjin is a really smart person.
Macs
2025-02-18 16:04:03 +0000 UTC"This is like Black Sails dialog...in Japanese" Marketa's right.
Chaos T
2025-02-18 15:32:25 +0000 UTCbeen waiting for this, hope you enjoy its peak story telling
Macs
2025-02-18 15:25:28 +0000 UTCNow this is unexpected! Great pick
godUsoland
2025-02-18 15:18:41 +0000 UTCWell this has just made my day!
Katie
2025-02-18 15:03:49 +0000 UTCMariko for the soul
Ashleep
2025-02-18 15:02:08 +0000 UTCYes i really needed something to cheer me up today.
Austin Lee Moyer
2025-02-18 15:00:58 +0000 UTCYaaay!
Ashleep
2025-02-18 15:00:52 +0000 UTC
