Which team are you on?!
Added 2021-12-29 16:00:05 +0000 UTCAnd why?
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I'm team Lelouch. Suzaku annoys me and it's not because he's idealistic. A lot of people throw that around, especially when trying to compare someone to another who is more "realistic". Lelouch himself is an idealist, it's just that he's actually taking action that disrupts the system. Suzaku, meanwhile, is all respectability politics. He's trying to be a good example in the hopes of ending the systems of oppression. In my experience, being a good example lets you get painted as one of the "good ones." Suzaku is respectability politics in the form of a spin kicking anime kid. This is why no one likes him: because we all know that no matter how "good" you are or the best example of your maligned minority group, they will still look down on you and anyone who looks like you because they still enjoy the benefits of keeping you and those like you oppressed. Being respectable isn't the path to freedom.
Legion
2022-02-10 07:28:34 +0000 UTClulu, he is realistic. suzaku lives in a dream world.
MarkeMarke .
2022-01-01 14:55:48 +0000 UTCSuzaku is an idealist Lelouch is a realist.
Alexander Holms
2022-01-01 08:54:04 +0000 UTCVery true
Dartz0023
2022-01-01 01:15:27 +0000 UTCThe easiest and most noble philosophy: Loyalty!
Nick A Sam III
2021-12-31 06:52:32 +0000 UTCIs this even a question? Jeremiah obviously!
Alkatros
2021-12-31 05:11:11 +0000 UTCPeople picking Suzaku want their actions to mean nothing for a whole season and have their cause destroyed within episodes lol
MojoJojoGojo
2021-12-30 23:44:21 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch.
Kendowl
2021-12-30 23:28:45 +0000 UTCI think Suzaku is the better person and I really like his character. But I'm a realist and considering that Lelouch has Geass he has a legitimate shot at achieving something, wherease Suzaku's approach is basically doomed from the start with a rotten country like Britannia. Also: I like me a really smart person in an anime, so I'm biased to beginn with. Suzaku might not be dumb, but he can't hold a candle to Lelouch😅
Diego Zenhäusern
2021-12-30 18:24:04 +0000 UTCYeah, the only reason why Lelouch is a viable option against Suzaku is because his Geass and to a lesser (but still considerable) degree because of his intellect. So while I'm team Lelouch in the anime, I think I'd be team Suzaku in the real world🤔
Diego Zenhäusern
2021-12-30 18:14:45 +0000 UTCI mean for her definitely but SPOILERS we know Suzakus heart belongs someone else❤😕
Diego Zenhäusern
2021-12-30 18:07:42 +0000 UTCLelouch for the win
Artiecus
2021-12-30 14:57:49 +0000 UTCI’m a utilitarian at heart. Lelouch is the only one that can effect substantial change within a reasonable timeframe. We’re talking immediate sweeping reforms and revolution vs trying to be an inspirational figure and HOPING that others follow your example SOMEDAY. It’s Booker T Washington vs WEB DuBois. Malcolm vs MLK. Magneto and Xavier. It’s a conflict of strategy as old as racial tension. Seen countless times in real life and fiction.
Nick A Sam III
2021-12-30 11:04:17 +0000 UTCSuzaku
Micahel Conrad
2021-12-30 06:19:17 +0000 UTCOfcourse Lelouch. Suzaku is just all talk no action. He is just lucky that Lloyd does not care that he is an honorary Brittanian.
Xed
2021-12-30 06:11:01 +0000 UTCLelouch for fighting on the right side, but I do appreciate Suzukus ideals more and relate to that way of thinking to be honest. It’s like how people join the military for good reasons, however they ultimately end up contributing to the perpetuation of some pretty terrible things. That may not be the intent, but is ultimately the end result.
Hasty Pasta
2021-12-30 06:06:45 +0000 UTCLelouch 4 sure
_ Nervous _
2021-12-30 05:09:37 +0000 UTCLelouch
Loren Racine
2021-12-30 04:59:50 +0000 UTCGotta go with Lelouch. Suzaku has noble intentions, but he's got to be either naive beyond mortal comprehension or flat out deranged, if he thinks he can change something like Britannia from the inside. If he were trying to start a revolution of some kind, then he'd 100% have my support. But he's the equivalent of a rookie cop trying to change the entire LAPD by making a few people love him specifically. At least Lelouch knows that you gotta be ACTIVELY try to make changes, even if it means getting your hands dirty.
Miasimon
2021-12-30 03:59:04 +0000 UTCThere are some additional points that will be cleared up about Suzaku's side of things later that will work both for and against his points. All I'll say for now is that Japan is a little different from the other areas due to the fact that their leaders surrendered early and left the people much more frustrated with Britannian rule than other areas that fought to the bitter end. The response to this and the fact that Japan is the source of the precious resource needed to produce Britania's greatest weapons, and thus is an important territory to focus on maintainingcontrol of, all leads to the oppression being way worse than other areas... still Team Lelouch.
Joel Sasmad
2021-12-30 03:20:17 +0000 UTCTeam Light all the way
slipHAZARD
2021-12-30 03:04:59 +0000 UTCYou need both someone on the outside who will keep the government in check and someone on the inside trying to work to change it for the better eventually meeting in the middle... Tho suzaku is quite annoying when it comes to morals
Mr. Big Stuff
2021-12-30 02:32:53 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch, has a great motivation for all these events he's setting into motion while Suzaku does serve as a good counter but cant see the red tape he'd have to get through to accomplish his goals of change.
Luke Parker
2021-12-30 01:44:37 +0000 UTCLelouch all the time
Kilo
2021-12-30 00:19:02 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch, but I do appreciate Suzaku as a character. I disagree with him, but he serves as an important counter point to Lelouch.
Kevin Eian Bennett
2021-12-29 23:29:11 +0000 UTCteam lelouch
dom
2021-12-29 23:26:34 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch, since Suzaku is a hypocrite. In ep. 4 he says "Any ends gained through contemptible means aren't worth anything." Yet he willingly works for a military that slaughters Japanese indiscriminately, and that's only 1 area. Since Japan is Area 11, then there must be at least 10 other "areas" out there going through the same thing. While Suzaku sits on his high horse and wanting to "follow the rules," innocent people are dying. Yet he has the audacity to call Zero's methods Immoral. It's basically the equivalent of saying "Hey guys, I know Germany is killing Jewish people and taking over the world right now, but don't fight back. Fighting back is Immoral. While you guys are dying, I'll change it from the inside.".....Ridiculous.
NLT
2021-12-29 22:51:45 +0000 UTCI was team Lelouch since episode 1 when I was a kid
FryLord
2021-12-29 22:48:27 +0000 UTCSuzaku's mentality is pure but I despise it. He think by doing exactly what they ask and being the perfect little soldier it will make them see Japanese differently, make them think twice about destroying entire neighbourhoods filled with people. The oppression of the Japanese won't be stopped by submission and good morals, Lelouch ain't perfect but his actions will bring the Japanese closer to liberation the he ever could with loyalty to fascists
Jamilaaaa
2021-12-29 21:41:17 +0000 UTCSuzaku is literally one of the most hated characters in code geass lol
Sparky
2021-12-29 21:12:17 +0000 UTCLelouch all the way!
Sparky
2021-12-29 21:11:20 +0000 UTCLelouch because his approach is that of a realist given what he thinks he's capable of. Suzaku's approach isn't realistic and at times feels hypocritical (like Lloyd said).
Ronald Bohne
2021-12-29 20:40:28 +0000 UTCLelouch. Suzaku's approach of changing the system from the inside doesn't work. There are too many interested and powerful parties in control that will never allow suzaku change the system they are benifiting from.
Aadit Doshi
2021-12-29 20:22:17 +0000 UTC*Puts spoiler muzzle on* Lelouch all the way. Because noble ideology is all well and good for discussion and literature, but if you want to really change the world, you have to be willing to do what's necessary. Heroes get the glory, but villains get results!
Patrick
2021-12-29 20:14:41 +0000 UTCOr they’re thinking about the real world? We don’t root for oppressed terrorists in real life? No, we say they’re just as bad as the oppressors. Suzaku has the approach of most sane people- changing the system from within. He definitely goes too far with it, but you cannot justify Lelouch’s approach. He’s royalty, messing with the oppressed- just like his family.
Morgan Le Fay
2021-12-29 20:08:19 +0000 UTCSuzaku is an idealistic moron, its good to have some people like that, but Lelouch is the one who has actual answers
TivAcrid
2021-12-29 20:02:26 +0000 UTCLelouch for reasons
Chaos T
2021-12-29 19:56:45 +0000 UTCSuzaku's plan is stupid, naive and childish, and that is why Lelouch is better.
Dartz0023
2021-12-29 19:54:43 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch all the way, and Suzaku's plan to change the system from inside all by himself is dumb and traitorous to the Japanese people.
Dartz0023
2021-12-29 19:52:16 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch all the way
Sir Redeye
2021-12-29 19:35:00 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch
The Evil Queen
2021-12-29 19:31:15 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch all the way, although I do think Suzaku gets more hate than he deserves.
Chris Nacht
2021-12-29 19:00:46 +0000 UTCTeam "this show is beyond dogshit".
Coco XLarge
2021-12-29 18:53:41 +0000 UTCLelouch for reasons you don't know yet. Suzaku's a hypocrite.
Johnny Blue
2021-12-29 18:49:34 +0000 UTCLelouch, sorry but Suzaku is a huge idiot and hipocrit.
SharkMessiah101
2021-12-29 18:45:31 +0000 UTCSuzaku
Detective Harris
2021-12-29 18:30:50 +0000 UTCLelouch because the other side are just assholes putting shade over the citizens.
Zachary Provenzano
2021-12-29 18:22:48 +0000 UTCMight be a little early for this but so far team Lelouch. Suzaku wants to bring change from the inside, but his method wouldn't even work without the constant conflict. He wouldn't have a chance to keep moving up the ranks otherwise and would still just be a faceless grunt.
Mikestrike
2021-12-29 17:57:28 +0000 UTCI would only pick Suzaku if Code Geass were a fighting game
Anthony Villena
2021-12-29 17:29:26 +0000 UTCIn many real life situations Suzaku's approach would be the right one, however when you are joining a tyranical empire that is actively and currently commiting genocide, slowly changing the system from within is just a way of justifying not doing anything, and there is not anything wrong with not being brave enough to fight, but suzaku is facilitiating and aiding the genocide that is currently happening.
Practially Incarnate
2021-12-29 17:21:53 +0000 UTCLelouch all the way
Julien Hector
2021-12-29 17:05:46 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch. Suzaku is like the polish guy who would join the German army to show the Nazis that he's a trustworthy guy. Collaborators should be shot and he's the biggest one.
Warren Taylor
2021-12-29 16:59:35 +0000 UTCLelouch but it's easy to say because he has a legendary power that can make someone follow any order. With that, a more swift path is feasible. Every action taken by the rebellion prior to ep 7 or so was met with extreme backlash and no one should take that lightly. Entire neighborhoods wiped out in a day like it's nothing. And Brittania is larger than any empire in history. Ottoman, Roman, British, etc. Without Geass, the rebellion probably would be a fruitless effort that led to Japanese extinction.
Firefx
2021-12-29 16:55:33 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch. He actually thinks about what he's going to do, and he can adjust to any situation to achieve his goal. He's clearly not one dimensional, unlike Suzaku.
benny goods
2021-12-29 16:50:52 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch all day every day.
TrixieTurner
2021-12-29 16:43:14 +0000 UTCIf you're team suzaku you crazy lol
Heru Muharrar
2021-12-29 16:42:24 +0000 UTCAnyone who is team Suzaku have to be either extremely naive to the point of stupidity, or are people with some questionable characteristics.
Shadi Ødegaarden
2021-12-29 16:23:30 +0000 UTCI mean, the eight way that does nothing maybe
Unstablebeast
2021-12-29 16:20:34 +0000 UTCAnother question is who would be the better boyfriend for Shirley? Suzaku or Lelouch? In this question I think Team Suzaku is better boyfriend material for Shirley LOL.
Raul Iggynashow
2021-12-29 16:18:50 +0000 UTCIt’s suzaku, that’s how you make a real differences. Grinding and making your wave to the top. The ends don’t justify the means and that’s lalouch path. People can like him and all because it’s an anime and his the MC but in the real world suzaku is the right way.
Sonicluis
2021-12-29 16:18:02 +0000 UTCLelouch because I love the theatrics. Zero as this figure who performs miracles.
Dirty_Oldman
2021-12-29 16:12:48 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch I don’t trust anyone that’s team Suzaku
King Darious
2021-12-29 16:12:00 +0000 UTCTeam Lulu. Suzaku is like the rook on the chessboard that kicks ass. But Lelouch is the chess master that is playing the game and moving all the pieces. LOL
Raul Iggynashow
2021-12-29 16:11:37 +0000 UTCYeah I was thinking the same thing.
King Darious
2021-12-29 16:10:34 +0000 UTCSuzaku is too naive so I'm gonna go with Lelouch. You can't change the world without getting your hands dirty.
Burntberries
2021-12-29 16:09:42 +0000 UTCI'm team lelouch. Suzaku wants to save the system but that very system was going to kill him until Lelouch stepped in
EDWIN FRANCOIS
2021-12-29 16:09:30 +0000 UTCNo doubt Lelouch. I was frustrated by Susaku's idealistic approach
Ikran
2021-12-29 16:09:24 +0000 UTCIt’s not really a competition 😂
Ellinor
2021-12-29 16:07:24 +0000 UTCLelouch because even if he's fighting for selfish reasons and revenge he's actually making a difference.
CodePhoenix13
2021-12-29 16:04:52 +0000 UTCI think its a little early for this discussion, but it is a good one.
AverageGrades
2021-12-29 16:03:00 +0000 UTCLelouch gets bitches and Susaku is like the nice guy who gets freind zoned.
ISAAC HERNANDEZ
2021-12-29 16:02:43 +0000 UTCSuzaku is heavily hated in the community is he not. I don't remember it being close like l vs light
Abdul Manneh
2021-12-29 16:02:40 +0000 UTCTeam Lelouch, sometimes the system needs an overhaul instead of trying to save it from the inside🤷🏾♂️
Christopher Clark
2021-12-29 16:01:58 +0000 UTCTeam Arthur the cat
olivia
2021-12-29 16:01:44 +0000 UTC
