[Premium Access] The Wire - 3x12 Mission Accomplished - Group Reaction + Uncut

I care as well.

Chaos T

I feel bad for him. I would hate to be in his shoes having to monologue into the camera and then respond to comments a week later, though he seems to be enjoying it. If he can't be on the couch, I'd like to see him double up with someone else who has watched the show so he at least has someone to talk to (on camera) about this besides commenters from days before.

jveezy

Yeah, I don't get the need for some fans to talk in so many absolutes about one character or another, especially since this show has so many shades of gray to dive into. Stringer can be both "in over his head" and a "reformer" at the same time, and the fun of the debate is trying to figure out how far he is to each end (at different times too, because he, like any real human being, can swing along that spectrum depending on situation and mood). I'm parroting some stuff from the "Stringer Bell ain't shit" bit from Way Down in the Hole, but he took some community college economics classes and thought he was smarter than he was because he was smarter than the people around him, but he also had the ambition to try to shake things up for himself and his crew, and he got so close to pulling it off. Part of what makes characters like that interesting to me is that I think there's a part of all of us that can relate to the ambition and the need to feel like we're making a permanent difference in the world around us. And I think there's also a part of us that can relate to the other side of suddenly realizing a little too late that we're in the middle of playing a different game than we thought we were playing. Stringer didn't end up in the latter without actually taking initiative to act on the former. So many people have grand ideas and don't even make an attempt at pursuing those dreams. They'd rather just talk, but Stringer went for it and took it as far as he could.

jveezy

Pelosi sign is in bar because Nancy Pelosi father was the former mayor. She grew up in little Italy

Troy Belt

Lol Avon didn’t snitch he gave stringer which to be honest was Avon biggest weak point in the series. He would’ve been killed stringer already.

Acash33

There was definitely no 50/50 split I will say that.

Acash33

Well that is totally wrong as even season 1 you can see him doing random community stuff. Avon also has a boxing background so it’s something he was interested in as well.

Acash33

Mark Stein I care - Micky -

The Normies

Ron Corleone, these are all excellent points. Honestly I didn't even consider Prop Joe's placement within the Co-op and you might be right on the money with that one. Dang, Prop Joe works so lowkey, he fooled me too lol. And I agree, it's so much more fun of a conversation when people have differing opinions because it gets you to consider/see perspectives that you may have missed before. I LOVE the comment section for The Wire, love getting into good conversations and engaging with ya'll. Season 4 HYPE!!!! - Micky -

The Normies

lol, you wrote such comment, but nobody cares.

Mark Stein

I really wish this level of maturity existed across all of Patreon in general!

Justin Neason

Get out of my head! 🤣 I think you put into words perfectly how most of us sort of feel about the situation.

Kamina 1

You're not alone Chaos. But i think the best we're gonna get is Micky solo on the couch for his discussion portion like he did in this upload. MAYBE the series finale.

Kamina 1

Can you use "picture in picture?" When you use "picture in picture" you keep your own version visible on top of every other window, so when you hit full screen, it's still visible.

Tom H

Somehow Stringer screwed over Omar, he screwed over Brother Mouzone(who Avon, hired), he pulled a Simba and deliberately disobeyed Avon(once again, it's the Barksdale organization not the BarksBell Organization), but Avon is still getting blamed for Stringer's mistakes catching up to him and that the two most dangerous people that he screwed over Omar and Brother got together to get revenge and basically told Avon that with him or without him Stringer's dead and that every wrong Stringer did, he did with Avon's name so it's Avon's reputation get tarnished because of Stringer went rogue, but that one act of good faith will make sure Avon still have a line to New York, his reputation wasn't buried, and that he didn't have to be fully reliant on Prop Joe. At the end of the day, Stringer was business first, everything else fourth(business was also second and third), in this case Avon also chose business first because Stringer messed up Avon's business, Avon's reputation, and proved that he could not be trusted. If Avon was really a snitch he would've snitched that Stringer had D'Angelo killed. His sister now hates him because she thinks he had something to do with it.

Ron Corleone

In response to Mickey, I think most people like or at the very least respect both Avon and Stringer for one reason or another. I think the main reason that the comments seem to be so pro-Avon and anti-Stringer, is just because a lot of us feel the need to play Devil's Advocate because the Normies kind of seem to be the complete opposite where everything Avon does is dumb or wrong and Stringer's mistakes tend to get glossed over and the only real thing he gets any crap for is sleeping with Donnette. This isn't me trying to be argumentative, you've brought up many valid points, but I remember in last week's video you mentioning Stringer doesn't get enough credit for the co-op, wasn't the co-op technically a thing before Stringer? It was just in it's beginning stages but didn't Prop Joe bring Stringer into this under the idea of everyone kind of working together buying Prop Joe's package. I feel like if anyone doesn't get enough credit for the co-op it's probably Prop Joe, because since they elected Stringer to basically be the face of of the co-op, people tend to forget that this wasn't something Stringer started. It was smart to put Stringer at the head of the table for two reasons though 1) Stringer can have good ideas 2) Stringer being at the head of the table, keeps the spotlight off of Joe and allows him to work in the shadows. Stringer may have been in business school but Joe is wiser and smarter. As far as people saying Stringer should have stayed in his lane, I don't blame Stringer for trying to venture out and do stuff outside of the drug world, I blame him for his arrogance(and also choosing to put his trust not only Prop Joe in the drug game but also Clay Davis in the "legit" game...he was doomed to fail in the business world and the drug game). They could've screwed him over at anytime and he never would've saw it coming, though Joe had no reason to do it...yet. I don't blame him for being in over his head, I blame him for not using his most valuable resource when it came to the business world, Maurice Levy probably because of his own arrogance. Last thing, I don't think Avon was really being hypocritical when he told Cutty to take care of the kids, only because I don't think Avon cares that much if at all about the kids as much as he just likes and respects Cutty and wants to see him do good. Avon loves the gangster/street stuff but he seems to have no problem if people leave the game and go legit. Like that scene with Slim Charles where he was listing off some muscle to hire and Slim said Shorty Boyd went and cleaned his whole ack(act) up, Avon's face was basically "Really? Him? Well, good on him." I honestly think he might've respected Stringer a whole lot more if he actually went legit and left all the gangster/drug stuff instead of pretending to be legit. But still I can see the reasoning behind thinking Avon was being hypocritical there, but if that's hypocritical then the word hasn't even been invented yet to describe Stringer who one moment is saying, they beyond all the gangster street shoot em up shit and then the next second saying we got to kill a state freakin senator, which I feel is another Stringer moment that might not have gotten the criticism it deserved because if Avon said he was going to kill a state senator, I feel like he would've been seen as the dumbest man in the world. But at the end of the day, The Normies is about entertainment. How they feel about characters, and how the comments feels about characters are all just opinions and it'd be boring if we all had the same opinion. I love these videos and I can't wait until next week because season 4 is my favorite season of any show ever.

Ron Corleone

In this re-watch Slim has become one of my favorite secondary characters. Also, anyone else want to see Micky on the couch for season 4?

Chaos T

How do I open up this video on Vimeo or in it's own window? I only have one screen so I can't fullscreen it and have my own version show running at the same time, and it's too small on Patreon? (Edit: I temporarily fixed it by zooming in like 300%, but that's not a good solution. Please bring back the direct text links instead of "video above")

JXTN

Micky got me thinking, if Avon and String made 60 million a year gross what was their net? I figure 10 million for product, another 10 for payroll lawyers laundering and spillage. I imagine him and String worked a 50/50 split so they might have been making 20 million a year each. And all they had to do was pump poison into a community and stack bodies.

Ryan

I think you are looking too deeply into avon giving cutty money. He just gave cutty money out of respect for who cutty used to be not because of the kids. He could care less about the kids. I personality think avon telling cutty to take care of the kids was a joking/mocking remark because he doesn't see much importance in what cutty is doing compared to being in the drug business.

fun fox

Rana is El Chapo confirmed

outdoorcats

I can't wait for season 4! Arguably, the greatest season of TV

fun fox

Bunny has the most perfectly shaped head

Michael Smith

Marlo will never know just how much he lucked out here

Alex

I can’t wait for you guys to react to season 4, imo one of the best single seasons of tv period.

Season 3 is so damn good. RIP to my man Stringer and his cool penthouse. What can I say about his death? Let me quote a wise man on it: --- "It's like you can change up, right, you can say you somebody new, you can give yourself a whole new story. But, what came first is who you really are and what happened before is what really happened. And it don't matter that some fool say he different cuz the only thing that make you different is what you really do, what you really go through." "Like, ya know, like all them books in his library. He frontin with all them books, but if you pull one down off the shelf, ain't none of the pages ever been opened. He got all them books, and he ain't read near one of 'em. Stringer, he was who he was, and he did what he did. And cuz he wasn't ready to get real with the story, that shit caught up to him." - D'Angelo Barksdale --- The first time I noticed this parallel I did some searching and found a pretty cool fan video on youtube a guy made really illustrating it with clips and music - if you search for 'the wire stringer bell american dream' on YouTube you'll find it.

Nerd Going Outside

oh how i wish you guys did double drops, i'm fiending for season 4 omg.

Kiana B.

It’s the Elba effect, people just cant see past his gorgeousness to see the absolute scumbag he was portraying.

Ryan

😈

Ryan

I feel for you Suraj. I can tell you just craaave happy endings so much. Like the Daniels/Rhonda, and Jimmy/Russell scenes we got in this episode.

Kamina 1

For me season 4 is the best single season of television ever made. I guess I can’t get into it to deep here since the Normies haven’t seen it yet, but the new characters they introduce are an incredible story device. The writers have built an incredible world in the past 3 seasons, the new characters are just perfect characters to be inserted into that world. The journey we go on with them is poignant, frustrating and just incredible from start to finish.

Ryan

I love the parallel between Avon in the courthouse in the season 1 finale, and Avon in the season 3 finale courthouse scene. Season 1 he looked over his shoulder, and had Stringer and his sister there holding it down with him. Knowing full well with him gone the Barksdale presence will continue until he get's out. This time around he looks back over one shoulder only to watch his sister walk out on him, and on the other it's Marlo. You only do two days. The day you come in, and the day you come out. Something tells me this one's gonna hit different.

Kamina 1

cant believe you guys blame Avon for giving up Stringer when he literally had no choice

Blake

Slim Charles too

Eduardo Gonzalez

Anyone else like s4 more than s3?

Ellis hayes

Pat said fuck Bho. Stringer is my brother lool

Kamina 1

The Fall of the Barksdale Drug Empire has come to its conclusion. We met them at their absolute peak in episode 1 and have watched as it all fell apart. Stringer, Dee, Stinkum, Orlando, Little Man, and Wallace are dead, Avon, Wee Bey, Byrd, Savino, and Poot are in prison. Only one pawn from season 1 remains on the board, Bodi. Welcome to season 4 Normies, Abandon Hope.

Ryan

Dang these going by fast only 2 more seasons lol, hyped for season 4 though one of my favorites

Ian6279

yess!!!!

Alwyn Smith