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Produce 101 Episode 10 - REACTION

Produce 101 Episode 10 - REACTION

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Hi Marcel, would like to add that last year GWSN's old creative director and producer Han 'Peacedelic' Jungsu revealed more of the company's mismanagement. Long story short at it literally became just a company on paper, there was no staff or management left at the end. Peacedelic went on to work with Billlie, which apparently has been a source of contention between GWSN and Billlie fans.

newcarsmell

Thnx for the backstories 👍 "After the bloom (alone)" by GWSN is so damn good 😍. I also like "Like It Hot" and "Bloom (True Light)" very much, so yeah, I definitely wouldn't mind a spotlight video on them ☺️ I think Hobgoblin was the first song where Cube finally listened to the girls on what they wanted to do (not cute concept), and lo and behold, a banger of a song and mv. I think afterwards Cube STILL pushed the cute concept onto them 😫 So ignorant 😔

crispy chicken

Once again, an update on where the eliminated trainees have ended up. #23: Ng Sze Kai, also known as Shin, was already a member of Hong Kong girl group As One during the time that PD101 aired. As One released a new song about a month after this show ended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y1Wxk5ZfkM However, that would be their final comeback, as As One disbanded the same year. Shin made a solo debut in 2017: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWtP4nA4-To That same year she also competed on MixNine and she acted in a Chinese drama in 2018 but that's it. Nothing has been publicly heard from her after that. She does have an Instagram account but there aren't any posts on it: https://www.instagram.com/shin_ngszekai #24: Kim Dani left her company in 2018. It doesn't seem like she's still pursuing an idol career. Her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kimdanee #25: Park Siyeon debuted in Pristin as Xiyeon. I mentioned Pristin twice already under the previous eliminations, talking about their predebut and debut songs. And now I guess I can mention their only ever comeback as a full group. This is We Like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6LAzgZi8N8 I cannot emphasise enough how much Pledis fumbled this group. All that wasted potential! Anyway, Siyeon has quit the idol career after Pristin's disbandment and is now working as an actress: https://www.instagram.com/0_0.1114 #26: Huh Chanmi also competed on MixNine in 2017. Afterwards she was set to redebut in a nbew group called High Color but the debut was cancelled for unknown reasons. She changed companies in 2020, signing with First One Entertainment and made her solo debut in July 2020: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O32inizYN_s However, beyond a trot comeback in 2021 and one more song in 2023, she hasn't released any more original music. She changed her company one more time, signing with Arang Entertainment in 2023. She has a Youtube channel for song covers and vlogs: https://www.youtube.com/@herchanmi And she continues to be pretty active on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chanmiii_h/ #27: Hwang Insun took part in the 101 project group I already mentioned a few times. Here's their song Don't Give Up one more time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2q4A9zL3E Insun also made a solo debut very shortly after the show ended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Kt32g-Nao She's still quite active to this day! Releasing music and performing on music shows. It's very nice to see actually :) Her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hwangemo #28: Seong Hyemin has stopped pursuing the idol path and is now focusing on her career as an actress and model: https://www.instagram.com/_seonghyemin_ #29: Kang Yaebin was yet another member of Pristin, going by the stage name Rena while in that group. So as I mentioned, Pristin only had those two title tracks and EPs as a full group. However, there was a subunit called Pristin V that came out after Pristin's comeback We Like. Pristin V contained five of the full group's ten members and Yaebin was one of them. They only ever got two songs, one title track and a b-side but those two songs are honestly the best thing to ever come out of Pristin. Get It was a cultural reset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z3iyydFevQ Even long before I watched PD101 and actually got to know these girls, I knew that this was something special. Pledis, you idiots! Anyway, after disbandment Yaebin redebuted in Hinapia with three other former Pristinites and a new member but they didn't survive the pandemic. She has been focusing on modeling since then: https://www.instagram.com/yaebby_kang #30: Kim Seokyoung joined Kiwi Pop and debuted in GWSN in 2018. Not to be confused with WJSN, that's a completely different group. GWSN is pronounced as „Gong-won So-nyeo“ and translates to „Girls in the Park“. This is their debut song Puzzle Moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEmHy9OIzLA GWSN were AMAZING. Like a crossbreed between Loona and WJSN but still with a unique sound that was very distinctly theirs. You might have seen that I compared Rescene to GWSN under your reaction video. Honestly, I would argue that GWSN absolutely deserve a Spotlight reaction of their own. And it absolutely pains me that I have to use the past tense when talking about them. Their management was Not Great™. Things weren't too bad at first but in 2020 they were moved to a sub label called MILES. Another shift in 2021 would see them move to The Wave Music. GWSN released a total of five EPs from 2018 to 2021 but that constant company moving towards the end really didn't do them any favours. And it got REALLY quiet around them after 2021. Until early 2023 when it was revealed that the members' contracts had been terminated after winning a lawsuit against The Wave Music. Turns out, The Wave Music were particularly shit at their jobs. Not fulfilling their ends of the contract, neglecting the GWSN girls, hell, even forcing them to move out of their dorms because this fucking company just stopped paying the rent. And to top it all off, they couldn't even be bothered to do the necessary paperwork for the visas of the two foreign members. Basically turning them into illegal immigrants via the company's inaction. Miya (Japanese) and Soso (Taiwanese) were left with fines and criminal records as a result of this. Luckily they were able to win their lawsuits as I already mentioned. The Wave Music didn't even attend the lawsuit as they had been out of business for about a year at that point. Miya has just recently made a solo debut in Korea so she also seems to be able to live and work there legally now. As for Seokyoung herself, she posts regularly on Instagram but it's not clear what her current plans are, whether or not she wants to return to an idol career: https://www.instagram.com/seokyoungee #31: Lee Soomin left Fantagio, signed with FAVE Entertainment and competed on MixNine. After that she switched companies a few more times but never made it to debut anywhere. She actually said herself that she „was living the same thing over and over again“. By 2022 she had given up on the idol career and decided to go to university instead. From her Instagram it looks like she also got into theatre acting: https://www.instagram.com/soomsenalee #32: An Yeseul started a Youtube channel for her song covers: https://www.youtube.com/@An_Yeseul_DDi Her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/INDY1028 #33: Kim Hyeongeun debuted in Bulldok alongside fellow PD101 contestants Park Sehee, Kim Minji and Lee Jinhee. After Bulldok's disbandment, she got into the project group D.A.N together with Yu Sua in 2019. But after that, there isn't much info on Hyeongeun. She seems to have deleted her social media. #34: Kim Juna released a solo song a few months after the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hqGHm-tq2o A shame that this was seemingly only one of two songs she ever did. The second one, Twilight, came out in 2019. But there should have been so much more if you ask me! I mean, you've heard her sing. I don't need to tell you how amazing of a soloist she would have been. Ah well. Juna opened a fashion store in Seoul in 2021 and is semi-active on Instagram these days: https://www.instagram.com/cool_jn #35: Kwon Eunbin (written as Eunbean in the subs for some reason) made her debut as the youngest member of CLC. The group had actually already debuted in 2015 with five members. After PD101 ended, Eunbin and Elkie were added to CLC for their second comeback High Heels, making them the 7 member group you know. However, the song I'm gonna recommend to you here is a different one: Hobgoblin. This came out in early 2017 and drastically shifted CLC's sound from innocent and girly to that that hard hitting girl crush sound you're familiar with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9OxRFab6o4 And the rest is history! By that I mean, they had some amazing music, some VERY questionable business decisions and Cube being the incompetent bastards they are. CLC released their final comeback Helicopter in 2020 and then things got very quiet. Still took Cube until 2022 to finally admit that CLC is disbanding. After several members had already left the company. Eunbin herself is now working as an actress: https://www.instagram.com/superb_ean

Marcel Wannieck

I threw together a quick little playlist for your I.O.I Spotlight: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhqOF0EagmSx1t8ntOgwgHJmhDIQR0MqC I left out one song called Crush because that will be performed in the final episode anyway. No need to do that again. And now you have a nice four MVs to react to :) - Damn. They get asked what a girl group needs and the first answer that comes to their minds is visuals. And I'm sitting over here thinking „Good music! Good singers, good dancers!“ The talent and the music itself is much more important to me than what they look like. And besides, all 101 trainees that have been on this show are beautiful anyway, so that's not even anything they'd need to worry about. - People really out there criticising YOUR visuals 💀 - Oh no! You get to see what a human face looks like! The horror! - Chanmi got done super dirty but this will not be the last time Mnet does this sort of thing. I did mention that I ragequit Produce 48 over a similar situation. - The amount of creepy shit female idols have to endure is just infuriating. - What the fuck, how did Pinky fall this far? - Mina too?!? - yoojung hwat the hell - Holy shit the gap between first and second place - I just wish Chanmi had also added something like „and a big fuck you to the editors who portrayed me this way“ - In the wise words of The Prodigy, LIGHT UP THE SKY, ILLUMINATE! - Damn it. - Yeah, like I said, Crush is the song they're performing in the finale. That's why I left it out of the YT MV Playlist.

Marcel Wannieck

- as far as visuals are concerned, I understand that people become attached to or are more interested in artists they find beautiful, I think it's just human. but for all that I don't understand people who denigrate artists because they don't find them beautiful enough. Personally there are some idols that I don't find super handsome but that I still like because they have talents or a personality that I adore. for Mina and Soyeon I always found them beautiful even if they are even more so now. but it’s something we can’t do anything about. As for YouTubers like you DG I'm not interested in their physical appearance I watch a YouTuber because I like their content or their analysis so if I like Viviz for example I would be interested in your analysis of their videos . if you react to a video about a group that doesn't interest me I simply won't watch the video. - about mental or psychological coaches, all the agencies already have that, each trainee or idol has courses or sessions with coaches to prepare them for the life of a "celebrity" and all these positive or negative outcomes. as managed popularity ?? and the fact that the most popular idols can no longer walk in the street without being completely pursued by their fans, how to deal with social networks and positive and negative criticism. This is an integral part of the training of an idol for survival shows. The pre-audition serves this purpose, of course, we judge the talent of an idol, but we also judge whether they will be able to withstand the pressure or not. but only the produce series shows that this kind of “court” or support exists. in GP999 for example it is not shown but we assume that it is done. - in fact I think that on certain aspects MNET staged the fall of Chanmi to stage the rise to power of Sohye - example Chanmi in the first episode voluntarily places him in the number 1 chair for many fans we this says "wow what confidence or what arrogance" we see what she is capable of and then indeed a few episodes later she makes a big mistake live. so of course people say well she's not number 1 she was a little too sure of herself. in parallel we have Sohye who has no experience in singing or dancing who makes permanent mistakes in training but who works to death and who gives fairly decent live performances without major errors. plus she is humble and adorable so people support her. so I made this connection voluntary, this does not mean that Chanmi is worthless and arrogant but simply that factually it is by her choice to take first place and the fact that she made a mistake allowed MNET to put it in Before . - no I think that for JKS it comes from him he was probably as tense and stressed as the girls and he probably overplayed. he must have realized that he was supposed to take a back seat and help the girls to be better rather than putting himself forward as the prince of Asia. he was already very popular he didn't need to be overplayed. - the top 22 was very close to what I thought at the time of course I had some Disappointment as many I loved Insun I found her very cool, for Juna I wondered whether these shortcomings in dance would penalize her because even if she was one of the best singers of the show she was not terrible in dance and We were running out of time for her to learn, for Chanmi no surprise to be honest I thought she was going to be eliminated before. - of course DG being number 1 or 2 doesn't matter much since both win. but actually in Somi's head it is important it is the consecration proof that JYP is mistaken. and for all these fans a revenge because JYP clearly ripped off Somi and ruined his early career. in a sense the injustice of Sixteen was beneficial for Somi because she gained a very solid fanbase. -among those eliminated I am surprised by the elimination of Eunbin, Yeseul, Dani, Shin Kai, Soomin who I saw in the top 22

fabrice maire

- Yeah, Chanmi is still in, for now at least. I agree that it feels like she didn't get any screentime the last episodes. - Totally agree that they (and basically all idols) should have mental coaches, because the pressure and the shit they have to go through is insane. - Like you, I also struggled with that last sentence of the advice "it's your part to endure the hardships". This seems to me to be a Korean thing as I've seen this type of 'mindset' many times before now in Korean programs. It's always "you have to endure". I don't know if this is a translation thing or not, but it's not something I 100% agree with. To me this makes it "ok" for other ppl to do you dirty in one way or another. So I like your comment "yeah, you got to face it" which to me is not the same thing as just enduring it. I also like the rest of your comment "but you got to have a supportive circle around you", because even if the advice is to "endure it", that doesn't mean you have to do it all by yourself/alone. - I also like that the MC has been more caring for the girls and adjusted his behavior that this show is not about him but about the girls. I also give him the benefit of the doubt that it was his decision to make that change. - Quite a few surprising big shifts in ranking - "Hyeri, you're 14 years old right?" 😂 - And here we have the birth of Yoojung's orangutan 🦧 - Yeah, Chanmi decided to stay professional, which was probably the best thing to do.

crispy chicken


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