HAMILTON PART 2!! (PATREON EXCLUSIVE)

For me the final gasp (in Phillipa's performance) is her seeing her son after reuniting with Hamilton

there are several 'theories' about that gasp at the end, Phillipa Soo who was the original Eliza has said that it's up to each actor that performs that role as to what it means for them. It's not on the recording because it wasn't even discussed until after the recording had been done. Also I want to point out that Hamilton says the 'I've imagined Death so much it's more like a memory' 3 times the first 2 times are in Act 1 the 3rd time is at his duel when he finally losses his life

Ken Passfield

Loved this! Man, I can never not cry on the last song. It breaks my heart. Also, if you ever have the time, the first Hamilton reaction I saw was from this guy. He live-streamed it (watch party) and the chat was full of knowledge, not only historical but from all the subtle symbols in the play. There are layers and layers to the words and choreography. Awesome, awesome vid! Greetings from Peru! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX4srDkqRyU

Sofi

He wore his glasses to be able to read Burr's face and see if HE was gonna shoot HAMILTON'S ass lol

It took me a couple of views before I realized those connections. When I did, my mind was blown and I began to realize that LMM was even more of a genius than I thought!

Trina Smith-Patterson

Also, the sister (Peggy) died too.

Anika

They never got to 10 in the duel with the son. He shot him at 7.

Anika

Though, in reality, Burr was a much worse person than he was portrayed in the play. Still a human being, of course, but for one thing, it never mentioned Burr defrauding several investors, including Hamilton, who gave him money for a scheme to rebuild New York's water system to stop the annual outbreaks of Yellow Fever, which he only spent a tiny fraction of the money on, spending the rest of it on building up a bank of his own to compete with Hamilton's Bank of New York. For another, it never mentioned how Burr did not, in fact, try to go to Hamilton after the duel, but ran off and went partying after. Or how he spent most of the rest of his life joking about murdering Hamilton with the one exception of his line about the world being "wide enough". Or how he was tried for treason by treating with foreign powers to take control of parts of the South to make his own little country where he ruled. Or how his last wife had to divorce him in order to get him to stop taking her money and throwing it away on shady real estate deals. I appreciate the attempt at being even-handed about Burr, but it is a bit of a whitewash of the real person.

Scribbles

You got it exactly! The use of an old, jazzy style for Jefferson's intro was to represent how out of touch and behind the times Jefferson was.

Scribbles

The character development is so poetic: in the end Hamilton threw away his shot, and Burr did not wait for it...

Hannzopie

I must say I agree with you. Watching it allows the audience to see burr as a human with feelings instead of this “jealous monster”. Leslie’s performance was phenomenal mainly how he conveyed Burr’s desperation.

miso

Indeed... Adams himself said the vice presidency was "the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived." Adams had been one of the most significant voices in the second Continental Congress... but felt relegated into nothingness while Hamilton and Jefferson debated the future of the country in the cabinet.

Mithroch

Knox, I believe the reference about John Adams not having a real job was that he was the first Vice President at that time . The role of VP was not as significant as John Adams would have wanted he couldn’t debate on policies and such.

I've watched Hamilton so many times now and several times with reactors. I watched all your audio breakdowns and it does not matter the situation. I cry from One Last Time on. Talk about flow. A steady flow of tears. One of the theories of the cry at the end is Eliza breaks the 4th wall and sees that their story is being told and that she succeeded in her mission and that she did do enough. Thanks for this. Awesome. And your breakdown videos were absolutely amazing. You blew me away with your lyrical, beat, instrumental and historical insights. Ridiculously impressive.

Amy Silknitter

Go back to the beginning. Lafeyette/Jefferson and Mulligan/Madison “fought with him”. Laurens/Phillip “died for him”. The girls, Eliza, Angelica and Peggy/Maria “loved him”

You missed the scream. The scream means everything after Philip dies.

Thank you so much for doing this. Loved seeing your reactions and hearing your commentary. Watching it is different than listening to the songs cause of all the expressions and choreography. You have gained a fan.

Just at the end of One Last Time and so the tears start.

https://youtu.be/uV4UpCq2azs I thought you might find this interesting. This is the cast performing at the White House- with Obama listening to One Last Time, in his last year of his presidency.

Angie Shaw

This was amazing! Thank you! You mentioned how the second half gets darker. Notice Take a Break. Alex writes to Angelica “understand the reference to another Scottish tragedy without my having to name the play” In theatre you NEVER mention MacBeth by name. It ALWAYS referred to by “the Scottish Play” it’s just pure theatre superstition. In the next line Alex writes “they think me MacBeth” breaking that rule. Alex’s problems in the musical start at that moment. The next song is Say No to This. BRILLIANT on Lin’s part in an already epic masterpiece.

Rebecca Fraser

this was worth every minute and comment!! I split my screen and watched with you, I've lost count of how many times I've seen the movie on Disney, and I've had the privilege to see the play twice in LA, amazing!! always!

Ariadne Fagundes

I’m so glad I took the Hamilton journey with you! Thank you for sharing your time with all of us Hamilton fans! It was a great experience!

Sarah Allen

Thanks for doing this Knox. It was a great journey getting your reaction and knowledge from the soundtrack, mixtape and play. Also I read that the orphanage still exists, but as a nonprofit of some sort for kids. After finding this out LLM and the three others (directer, orchestral and choreographer) have set aside proceed funds to go to the nonprofit .

OH MY GOODNESS I am so glad to have watched along with you! One thing that has to reflect my favorite layering from LMM is something you won't notice until you've watched it at least twice (or 700 times like me)... In the beginning number, there's a point where each character shows their roles: We fought with him: Lafayette and Mulligan fought with him meaning alongside, but are the same characters as Jefferson and Madison who fought with him, meaning against. I died for him: Laurens was his BFF and died, played by the same actor as his son who died defending his honor in a duel. Me, I loved him: Angelica, Eliza, and Peggy who shared a fantasy love, a romantic love, and brotherly love. But are the same actresses in the second act who were Angelica, Eliza and Maria: fantasy love, enduring love, and sexual love. SUCH a great time watching along with you! I became a Patreon specifically for this!

Thank you for doing this Knox, it's been amazing!

Lizzie

So rewarding to experience this again with you getting to see it with fresh eyes! Thank you for always giving such insightful commentary! One thing that always gets me about the “will not make an orphan of my daughter” line is that Burr’s daughter was an adult at the time of the duel, but 4 of Hamilton’s children were less than 13 years old. His youngest son was only 2 years old when he lost his father. And still, can’t help but feel some for Burr because of how well Leslie Odom Jr plays him.

I think it says a lot about Burr that even after everything him and Hamilton went through. And even though he is the one who prematurely ended Hamilton's life, Burr STILL blames Hamilton for winning. "You may have been the one to die, but I'm the one who paid for it." Like.. "Yeah, I killed you.. but now I have to deal with what that does to my reputation and my life... how inconsiderate..."

Lin has said he leaves the end up to interpretation but one big theory is that it’s actually Lin who escorts her to the front of the stage (not Hamilton) and the gasp is because she sees the audience and realizes that their story did get told.

Angie Shaw

It’s absolutely mind-blowing in person. And FYI tickets are on sale now for the Phillip tour at the Kennedy Center late summer/early fall.

Tracy Proctor

The line “best of wives best of women” was an actual line in the letter he left her when he went to Jersey. And Burr’s line “I should have known the world was wide enough for both Hamilton and me” is an actual Burr quote he made years later.

Angie Shaw

The guy shot Phillip on the 7 count… he fired way early. Then listen to Phillip and Eliza counting when he’s dying….

Angie Shaw

What a journey! Enjoyed it so much! Thank u knox! Loved your comments and references. It is truly a masterpiece and Lin Manuel is a genius!

Talía Caraveo

It was such a fun ride, Knox! Thank you for blessing us with your time and knowledge. I’m so glad you’ve enjoyed yourself and became a fan of LMM.

Thank you so much for this journey Knox. I think Eliza’s gasp can be interpreted in different ways but I too see it as breaking the fourth wall and Lin as himself showing her that she has an audience to hear her story. Just a fantastic show!!

Imogen

And at that last moment, it is not Hamilton leading her up to the front of the stage, but Lin Manuel Miranda, to show her. I love this interpretation of it, though the actors and audience are free to interpret however they want.

Robert 'Jemimus' Kloosterhuis

It’s been awesome going on this journey with you! Learnt so much more this way. Thanks man!

Thank you for taking us on your journey. Everytime I watch there is some new Easter egg that I never noticed before. Its really amazing all the layers in this production!!!

The gasp at the end is Eliza noticing the crowd realizing all the work paid off and Hamiltons Story is being told.

Madison Dickson

Thank you for the journey too!

I forgot to mention in my last comment that in the versions of Hamilton done out of the country (currently in London and Australia, and it will run in Hamburg-it has been translated into German-this coming Fall), they don't say John Adams in the Take a Break song, the line was changed to "Angelica, tell my wife vice president isn't a real job anyway" because it was felt if you didn't have the US history background, you may not even know the name John Adams and even if you knew he had been a president, you very likely wouldn't know he was the vice president under Washington.

John Adams was vice president at the time of this song and the vice president didn't have much to do the way the job was constructed in the founding of the country. It is still a joke the vice president doesn't have a "real" job.

When he says that John Adams doesn't have a real job anyway, he's talking about the fact that the vice president didn't really have a defined role back then, other than if the president died.