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Flags of Our Fathers (2006) * FULL LENGTH REACTION

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A Clint Eastwood directed movie!!  

I really like the way the narrative is told, and how it's not all war happening in most of the scenes.  A very different story being told.

Really curious to see what the Japanese perspective companion movie will be like ๐Ÿ˜€

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Flags of Our Fathers (2006) * FULL LENGTH REACTION

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Trying to be careful how I say this both to avoid spoilers and avoid stepping in a geopolitical minefield: "American Sniper" is based on a book about the experiences of US Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, who served 4 tours of duty in Iraq in the 2000's. While there may be critiques that I have not read or heard, all of the ones of which I am aware are from people who are vigorously opposed to the US involvement in Iraq for political reasons. The most vocal critic that I heard is Michael Moore, who spent his whole career being both anti-US government and anti- military, but all of a sudden acts as if he is an expert on military culture because of his father's military service when talking about "American Sniper". By contrast all of the Marines who were saved by Kyle seem to approve of the movie, and all of the reviews from service members who served in Iraq agree that the portrayal of the environment and situations is realistic generally without addressing the historical accuracy of the incidents shown (because they did not witness them). I have noticed that other true story movies about incidents from the 2000's and 2010's GWT have gotten minimal or no coverage in the press ("Charlie Wilson's War", "United Flight 93", "Lone Survivor", "Patriot's Day", "13 Hours", "15:17 To Paris") which I attribute to those same political leanings by the media. BTW both "15:17 to Paris" (2018) and "Richard Jewel" (2019) were directed by Eastwood, but I did not recommend them because I have not seen them. "Deepwater Horizon", "Concussion", "Moneyball", "The Big Short", "Sully", and "Captain Phillips", all of which focus on non-GWT recent events, have gotten much more press coverage (and I recommend all of these). Some of Kyle's stories of incidents which occurred in the US are not verified, but none of those incidents are portrayed in the movie. There are varying numbers of medals attributed to him, with his own statements actually claiming fewer than the official list on his service records. The US Navy asserts an even lower number (claiming that their own records are inaccurate, but have not changed them) but it is possible to attribute this to some of his awards being classified because of the nature of his service (so they might appear on his records listing but the citation is not accessible because of security restrictions). IDK I hadn't heard the doll thing, but off the top of my head I don't think that is really that far out of the norm for a movie production to avoid both dealing with child labor issues whenever they can or the possible bad optics of having a real baby in a war movie. I gues it would depend on whether it is a doll/baby in a US home scene or in an Iraq war zone scene. - shrug - I think this is one of those "watch it and make your own evaluation" situations.

JAKH

I heard backlash on American Sniper and the fact that they used a doll instead of a baby in a scene๐Ÿคฃ

Verowak

Amblin Entertainment is Steven Spielberg's production company. Spielberg is also the "S" in Dreamworks SKG. The Malpaso Company is Clint Eastwood's production company. Spielberg's mother was a holocaust survivor and his father was a US Army WW2 veteran. So he has a lot of movies/series about that time period or references to it (such as Robert Shaw's monologue about the USS Indianapolis in "Jaws") in his films

JAKH

Eastwood has both directed and acted in good movies in a wide range of genres over the years: Gran Torino" (2008) "Absolute Power" (1997) thriller/suspense "A Perfect World" (1993) drama/suspense "The Outlaw Josey Wales" (1976) western "The Eiger Sanction" (1975) espionage/suspense/thriller "Pale Rider" (1985) modern western "Blood Work" (2002) mystery/suspense "Tightrope" (1984) mystery/thriller "Sudden Impact" (1983) police drama/action, the 4th Dirty Harry movie "Heartbreak Ridge" (1986) military "Space Cowboys" (2000) comedy "Unforgiven" (1992) dark modern western

JAKH

Clint Eastwood directed some really good true story movies in the mid-2010's that he did not act in: "Sully" (2016) w/ Tom Hanks & Aaron Eckhart "American Sniper" (2014) w/ Bradley Cooper "Letters From iwo Jima" (2006) w/ Ken Watanabe

JAKH

$14 billion in bonds in 1945 is $240 billion today National debt or bankruptcy after a war is common in history. - After the 7 Years War of the 1750's, Britain was nearly bankrupt, plus they had gained the large ongoing expense of garrisoning the former territories of New France acquired as spoils of war. This led them to try increasing taxes on their North American Colonies to pay off their war debt. That ended badly for them. - Similarly, after aiding those British colonies in their War of Independence, France was nearly bankrupt, which forced Louis XVI to convene the Estates Generaux to raise taxes, and things went downhill from there. - After WW2, Britain was again almost bankrupt and so did not resist when her various Dominions and colonies wanted independence. Britain was able to maintain the benefits of trade by forming the Commonwealth, while being able to eliminate the expenses of maintaining enforcement and administration. Britain had to maintain War Rationing into the 1950's, while the US had entered an economic boom soon after the end of the war.

JAKH

There are fewer ways to become unalive faster than shooting at a Navy Corpsman or an Army or Airforce medic (also called doc). Or the Chaplain. They carry no weapons and make themselves visible as possible, so no one shoots at them (While giving away the position of anyone). If one does shoot at them though? That poor bastard because everyone else switches to default pure aggression mode. Do not mess with doc or the chaplains. It is a very bad idea. Probably lifetimes supply of bad ideas. (Stole some of the lines from the "Fat electrician" ). Do not mess with Doc.

Daniel Looney

Your question about medics: The US Marine Corps does not have any medical personnel. Instead medical services (doctors, dentists, nurses, orderlies, field medics, etc.) are provided by the US Navy. Since the field medics are drawn from the US Navy Medical Corps, they are called "Corpsmen". An affectionate nickname for a Corpsman that is liked by the marines he is with is "Doc".

JAKH

In the Battle of Iwo Jima only 216 Japanese soldiers survived of a garrison of 21 thousand! The US lost a little over 6,000 killed but over 20, 0000 wounded. All in a month and half for an island that no more than 3 miles by 3 miles if you make it a cube. So American fighters can be stationed their to provide escort to the bombers and the bombers have a emergancy base to land on if damaged. This battle and Okinowa that happened later is one the primary reasons Japan was nuked twice.

Daniel Looney


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