There is no scientific basis for claiming it's "extraordinary", it's the most ordinary claim in the world from a scientific perspective, given what we know about the universe. Besides, there is no such thing in science OR LAW as a different standard of evidence called "extraordinary evidence" for different claims. There is a preponderance of evidence from multi-disciplinary research, just like the evidence for the theory of evolution by natural selection. Not a "smoking gun", but overwhelming multi-disciplinary evidence pointing in a single direction. What you mean by "extraordinary" is an EMOTION called ontological shock. Which is an immediate gut reaction, unthinking, unthought out, worthless smelly old emotion, utterly irrelevant and to be shunned in both science and courts of law. That Sagan quote is nothing but pretty words dressing up a terrible heuristic, it's a way of justifying your broken epistemology by an old dead guy who should have known better than to propagate such "think you're thinking" poppycock instead of actual thinking. Your ontological shock is SUBJECTIVE, it has no logical scientific cause, it's there for socio-psychological reasons. I don't share it because it's subjective to you. I have NO ontological shock about the subject, personally. If I did, I'd ignore it, because it's just a smelly worthless emotion.
2023-07-11 03:57:52 +0000 UTC
Damn Sonic mixing up salt with Colombian sugar.
2023-06-18 08:04:17 +0000 UTC
The default mode for an extraordinary claim made often without proof shouldn’t be that it’s plausible because it’s made often; it should be that it’s not true even if its made 100,000 times, as long as there’s no proof.
2023-06-16 02:20:14 +0000 UTC
Who is expecting anyone to believe it's been kept totally secret for decades? I don't believe it's true, but if it had been kept totally quiet/secret we wouldn't have the 70 years of history I mentioned of claims of its existence/happening. That argument is silly and I've heard it before. You're referencing it as though it's only now coming out and that's not the case, is it? It's been leaked over and over again for decades. I just happen to believe it's all intentional misinformation. But I'm just an idiot with an internet connection and don't think I really know what's happening. Neither one of us can fully corroborate our beliefs. Although we can manage to agree yet argue about how we agree, which is impressive.
Military/intelligence/congress members belief systems aren't relevant, imo. They're not claiming to have seen Jesus flying through the sky prepping for armageddon. They're not claiming to have proof of God and secret programs to use its power to our advantage. That would be similar. What's relevant, to me, is that any one of those groups of people, especially military/intelligence, would likely feel fully justified lying about this sort of thing to give our country an advantage.
What I find unbelievable is that ET tech would be so advanced as to remain totally hidden from the general public and scientists. When the scientific community tells me there's real evidence of ET visiting Earth I will start to actually listen beyond it just being a fun, silly thing (Tall whites is my favorite LPOTL ep). I, like you, haven't been moved or impressed by any videos of UAP released so far. I don't expect to be, either. I just don't think it's fair to pretend you or I know for sure, or like there's no reason at all for people to think this might be true.
2023-06-16 00:40:32 +0000 UTC
Not a single ex-military/intelligence ET claim has ever been substantiated. No ET claim of any kind has ever been substantiated ever in any way. Evangelical Christianity is endemic in the military but that doesn't give the second coming credence. The US couldn't even keep the H bomb secret from the Soviets but we're supposed to think it's kept aliens secret for decades AFTER finding spaceships and alien corpses? Just about every secret the government has ever tried to keep has come out not that long after it's tried to keep it. If aliens had come here as often as claimed, then every single government would have to be in on it and keeping quiet.
Also every single ET claim is underpinned by an implied belief in FTL travel, which is just too stupid to even address.
2023-06-15 22:27:15 +0000 UTC
I believe it’s most likely we haven’t been visited by ET life and that our intelligence communities are simply more than happy to let rival countries believe we may have ET tech, all considered. Your comment isn’t really fair, though. At this point there’s like 70 years of history of ex military/intelligence claiming we have retrieved UFOs. There’s members of our congress demanding answers and government agencies across the globe dedicated to studying UFO/UAP phenomenon. We have” trained observers “ reporting sightings, etc. It’s not like it’s all totally pulled out of thin air. It’s truly obnoxiously arrogant to act like you know anything about this with certainty, as if there’s no reason at all to believe it’s not BS.
2023-06-15 19:19:58 +0000 UTC
If Grusch said the government had founds smurfs and Care Bears people here would believe him. Occult beliefs are no different than religion. Don’t hold beliefs just because they make life more exciting.
2023-06-15 16:44:23 +0000 UTC
My butt is SO SORE and I appreciate you.
2023-06-15 04:04:50 +0000 UTC
CIA FASHO
2023-06-15 01:03:03 +0000 UTC
it really is. whataburger country in the house!
2023-06-15 00:43:46 +0000 UTC
I believe in Aliens like a baptist believes in God. Just a matter of time.
2023-06-14 22:19:30 +0000 UTC
in n out is trash
2023-06-14 21:40:21 +0000 UTC
Henry is a disinfo agent just for his In n out take
2023-06-14 19:34:20 +0000 UTC
And of COURSE Dr. Greer’s panel at the National Press Club on Monday probably happened right before or after they recorded this 😂
Kimberly Terrell
2023-06-14 18:27:58 +0000 UTC
The bigger news is Grusch. He’s credentialed and Dr Gary Nolan stands behind this as well as Michael Shellenberger. He has some info as well he’s releasing. I didn’t follow UAP stories other than the Pentagon confirmations. Then I tuned I. To the NASA live brief where they confirmed UAP. It’s getting weird man. The LA story is cool but nothing there. BTW sorry for being the weirdo. I’ve been waiting all week for you guy’s take on the whistleblower. I hope y’all update the story a bit more. You guys are super dope, listened for years and will still listen regardless.