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David A Simmons
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Behind the Analytics, Clarifications and Youtube Reactions In The Future

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You are a good entertainer but a proper fella true honest and funny rare these days bro forums are good for your content I did say in the wrong way before good luck you got so many behind you bro god bless allen

mark bass

Taffe going to the tv companies is something all reactors if they're half way intelligent have attempted. Yes, I do make some money. My wife is the one that makes the dough in the house and has for the last 5 years for the most part. My money pays some bills monthly but youtube is an up and down ride. Some months is paid a good portion of the bills and we can treat ourselves, some months not. I don't even have to get into any of that since I don't know where it's any of you or anyone else's business. Do you not get paid for your time? For me it's never been about the money but you think that getting paid for the hours of recording and then editing isn't a nice perk? Like, leave my finances out of it. If this were about money I wouldn't have even said anything about converting my channel to something completely different and lose out on whatever revenue comes in from reactions. As far as not seeming to rate Patreon, if I could get all my subs to move to Patreon for reactions I wouldn't even use youtube for that anymore. I'd have a free tier and the paid tier for extra stuff for folks nice enough to do so and that'd be it. I wouldn't even put content reaction wise on youtube and would've stopped with youtube long long ago for reactions.

David A Simmons

Thanks for this video explaining things. It sucks the way A: how proprietorial some of the owners of the material you and others react to can be. B: How Youtube seems to relish blocking stuff because of copyright. You've definitely got your finger on the pulse with regards to what you think Youtube is doing more than I would have. If I see something I want to watch on it, I don't care how many views it has, I'll click on it becuse I want to see it. As an observation in terms of being a viewer of Youtube, I tend to look far more at what's in front of me, i.e, recommended than I check notifications. When I do check notifications, they're often so bunched up under the 'bell window' that I just skim through them. I guess it's easy to miss stuff that way. I also find of late that whereby Youtube would have previouslty put up recommendations (not to be confused with notifications) from you, it now has much more of a tendency to put up recommendations based on what I have watched recently, as in within the last week. In that way, I think they have changed how they put stuff out there. If I want to check what I've missed from you for instance, I simply go to your channel and select videos. I do think it's a lot to do with human nature to click on something in front of you than to dig through lists hidden from the main page. Facebook did this as well. When I first joined, the main part of the page were what my friends had posted, with Ads and group suggestions off to the side. Now, it's predominently Ads and group posts with friend posts confined to out of site notifications. With facebook, I now have to scroll a mile down the page to see what a friend has posted or with Youtube, a mile down the page to see a video from a channel I'm subbed to. I don't like this because it should be about what people want to see as viewers and not what they / the algorithm thinks you want to see. It can often become boring because of this when I see the same old stuff come up over and over simply through me having a few days of watching videos based on a particular subject. The only way I see something new on that page is if I search for something new, then I tend to see a rash of suggestions based on that. Anyway, I've gone on long enogh! I do hope you're well & I think the suggestions you've made regarding going forward could work well for you.

James Fish

After reading the Henry Normal chronicles in the comments. I feel it is true everybody has an opinion but all are not equal. Comparing one reactor to another is stupid. Each reactor comes from different parts of the world, there interpretations are different and what they offer are different. Eclectic voicing the issues of the YouTubes I perceive to be a good thing. Anybody watching YouTubes for any length of time I think has seen a content creator they admire go through this in silence and this is offers in-site into just how challenging these struggles are. You claim you get all the notifications, well my friend I don’t all I get is a little blue dot next to the channel icon. I can change this to all notifications and in a week or so it will revert back. YouTube has been messing with analytics and algorithms for a while now. Just watch spiffingbrit every month there is a YouTube hack to gain subs or views. And the copyright rules and laws are unfair to claim they are not is just insane. 3 strikes and your channel is gone. The claim can be pretty much anything and if you don’t have a big enough bank account to have your day in court, you’re screwed. So it stands to reason that, it would be demoralising when you get strikes or complaints etc. And the. Comment of at least you don’t have to have the servers YouTube have lucky you. I think the billions YouTube will make in ad revenue will more the wipe away any tears of upset they have. Just my thoughts on the Henry Normal bullshit.

Newcastlewatson

Mate I don't make it a habit of blocking folks unless someone is unnecessarily rude. Yes I've whinged quite a bit and I'll own that. The constant inconsistency of the application of rules gets demoralizing and when you're trying put forward the best stuff you can for your community and spent countless hours reacting and editing something you see 900 other channels do to get blocked, after a bit, you're going to whinged a bit. You are right though, I should just record the bloody stuff and react. That's exactly what I've done for 5 years on YouTube mostly on a daily basis until recently. Day in. Day out. At the beginning for the first 2 and a half years it was 3 videos a day. So I'm sure a large part is I'm just skint at the moment. It won't last. The thought that money coming back from doing reactions, you don't make a ton without a strong Patreon and a damn good editor, of which I'm shit. At some point I will go back to doing them but yes I do think there can be new packaging. I already feel out of sorts not recording every night so I'm sure I won't last more than a few months on YouTube.

David A Simmons

But you've always said you do it for a living, which surely means you need to make some Money. Taffe lives at home with his mum, I assume he survives on his Patreon money and the tiny amount he probably gets off YouTube. Glad you replied Alan. Why are you on Patreon then, considering you don't seem to rate it? Is it YouTube that's made all the rules, or have TV companies etc... started to block content a lot more. Taffe talked a lot about few years ago now about TV companies that owned content being nice to him. He'd email them and they'd unblock content for him. He had every episode of Father Ted on YouTube at one point without a single edit. Things will never go back to how they were. Daniel from Embrace The Suck is now doing everything on Rumble, but I can't stomach that site, so won't watch over there. It's a riddle it seems.

Henry Normal

Yeah, see, Taffe upload more to outside of YouTube than he does to YouTube. Do you know the percentage of people that follow content placed outside of YouTube. This ain't a route you want to go because you're going off of surface level what you can see. The fact you even brought up the financial side is hilarious because this isn't the money making niche at all. It's why 90% of YouTube have patreons and out of their community maybe 5-7% of their community follow them to Patreon if theyre lucky and started it early. Profits. Lmao, if doing this was about profits I would've stuck with reviewing EV news and vaporware specs. 10x per cpm, rpm and every conceivable metric. You don't do this for the money. Any money is nice. You do it for the community.

David A Simmons

Taffe316 has reacted to all those shows.

Henry Normal

I think you're getting more desperate because the profits have gone, and that sucks. I've always had notifications from you, but often don't watch because I found you quite aggressive and rude on some live streams. You seem to genuinely think that you've added something different to The American reacts genre. I don't think you ever did, but you had the genre to yourself for a while, until it started falling away. Perhaps reinvent yourself, but the truth is, and this may hurt, it's only reactions that will bring the money back. Go back to basics and just bloody react to stuff without all the bullshit, facts and figures and the awful attitude. Taffe316 still plugging away, mostly uploads reactions to Drop Box. He may be done soon, his views are utterly dead, but for me, he's the original and best. Take care Alan.

Henry Normal

Look, I know you'll shout at me, block me or whatever, you've done it before, but I really do think some of us a bored of you constantly repeating yourself. Yes it's tough that YouTube is cracking down on reactors. Some seem to do very well though. Have you heard of CineBInge, they upload 3 or 4 times a week, very nice movie reactions, which have been consistent for many years now. Beautifully edited and the reactions are intelligent, funny and sometimes moving. They still get 50K plus views on YouTube, but they also have Patreon. They have thousands of subs there, and SocialBlade estimates they make 30k plus a month.

Henry Normal

I'm sorry to hear your troubles with YouTube and reacting as I've been watching you for a number of years now and I enjoy your content. As a view of content I too have had issues recently with the reacting community as even though I love the IT Crowd, Black Adder & The Imbetweeners, I do get bored of seeing just these series being uploaded by various reactors. Your channel seemed to buck this trend with shoes like Rising Damp, Luther and Still Game. I hope you do carry on and continue to watch other shows . Maybe you should look to grow your patron by watching full episodes on here and uploading heavily cut versions to YouTube as a marketing tool to sign up more members. I also think there is an appetite for more drama than just comedy. We have some cracking shows in the UK like Happy Valley (hard hitting crime drama), Line of Duty, Brassic, and older shows like Minder. I hope it all works out for you.

Jason Bonner

It’s clearly frustrating you so I think throttling back is probably the right thing to do at least for a while.

Brian


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