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About 0.12

We had gigantic plans for this month, and it looks like this time we might have gone too far in few places :) We had to do insane amount of work in order to implement all new locations and characters, which was a necessary foundation for future content and will be used by both Kate and Max. And of course we couldn't just copy old content, image quality improved too much, old images would stood out like a sore thumb. Plus, as I've already mentioned before, in most situations Glamour uses sprites and not full screen images.

Unfortunately, the amount of work needed for the villa means we couldn't lay the foundation AND add new content in one month. So we were forced to either make a version that would leave some of this work for the future versions and still would be light on content, or we could rip the proverbial band-aid and have one version with basically no events and dialogues, but it would only be one version.

That's what we went with. We spent the entire month on the foundation and now that it's done, we can focus on adding new content in the future.

Let's talk about what exactly we were doing this month. Now that Max is free to walk around locations, you'll be able to see all characters going around their business. The lightning will depend on the time of day, they'll be wearing different clothes, there will be close ups. In some situations we went even further and you'll be able to see some things from different angles. For example, while Alice is asleep, Max will be able to take off her her top, panties and the skirt (all of them are independent, so you can keep on one or more of them if you want) and then look at her from different angles. Same goes to Lisa (she only has two pieces of clothing, but the general idea is the same). There will be an option to look at sleeping Ann from two different angles. Same goes with Kira. Max will be able to take off her panties too.

Besides day and night, the lightning will also depend on local sources like the projector in the living room and the kitchen light.

The bathroom can be occupied by several people at the same time. For example, two people can be taking a shower, and a third person might be taking a bath. Same goes to the pool and TV. You'll be able to close up on people sunbathing and swimming in the pool. They'll have different swimsuits, too. Characters will be busy cooking, washing dishes, sitting in their phones and many other actions. Breakfasts and dinners will have some variation in the food. Someone might be late or maybe someone didn't have enough time to change before breakfast — all of this is already in the game and works as intended.

We're also working on ability to spy through the cameras installed around the house. Maybe we'll be able to implement it in the Max's laptop for 0.12.

All this work took all of our time and we didn't have enough time on new dialogs and events, but the graphics are already done. Some of the images are already implemented in the game, too, so even though we had to postpone our planned 0.12 content, proper implementation shouldn't take too long because it's already partially done.

Since 0.12 will be, em, light on new events, we've decided to let Max do things he shouldn't be able to do yet, story-wise. I'm talking about undressing different characters around the house, peeking from different angles, etc. In the future all of these will be implemented as events.

For example, Max won't be able take off Lisa's clothes in the very beginning of the game without getting slapped in the face, and Alice's reaction will be even worse. By the way, in the future there will be ways to see whether characters will allow Max to try something like this or should he back off for now. Normally, peeking through the spy cameras won't be available without buying and installing them first. In order to see Lisa in a transparent swimsuit first Max will have to buy a swimsuit, learn about the way to make it see-through, get the required item and use it on the swimsuit. But not in 0.12. In 0.12 Max will have "god mode" and will be able to do all these things right away.

We couldn't implement all these as proper events, but at least the foundation is ready and we won't have to spend our time on it in the future. And of course, bigger foundation allows us make a better game in the future.

Just like Max in 0.12, in 0.13 Kate will be able to move around the villa. Of course, we won't have to spend another month on giving her this functionality, so she'll have plenty of content in 0.13. She'll be able to interact with characters and participate in events. Kate will be able to stay overnight and she will finally be able to lose her virginity. And she wouldn't be able to do any of it without all the work we have put in 0.12. Without 0.12, Kate would still have to go through linear events, VN-style.


Comments

Yeah, just keep up the good work! :)

Offshore - Adult Games Developer

There's always more work to be done than it first seems....no worries though your work is coming along great and I think patience is the key to a great product!

Black Fox Lingerie

Да вроде часто проблемы в начале старта новой версии.

BarnettDL

same here it's after the last update to vers 0,12

vimmers

I just found this game and am having problems starting. I downloaded the client and 11.7 is that the full game from the beginning? When I start what I have downloaded the loading screen takes forever. I have not been able to play. Thanks in advance for any help.

It won't let me play the game

MGscott

In 0.12 i can't load save, nothing happens

Невозможно загрузить игру ни продолжить. На клики по "Продолжить" и в "загрузить" на сохранении игра не реагирует.

Литвиненко Павел Леонидович

нет версия 0.12 онлайн

Will you be releasing a offline version of 0.12?

Daku

сохраниения есть но ничего не запускается

у меня не запускаеться игра, в чем проблема?

The game remains after we have chosen Max. Hang in both languages. No jump target set.

lukumo

как начать игру за макса ,если я патрон за 5$? неужели ждать 19-ого пока пустит в 0.12 версию ? в 0.11 же можно было за него начать или нет?

а обнова будет уже 5 число

А что это для бесплатников еще контент не обновили, ведь уже 5 число? У меня бесплатная 0.11 (по сути 0.9), сегодня должен был открыться контент из 0.10. Но ни чего нету. Может он в определенное время обновляется?

Литвиненко Павел Леонидович

0.12 5го числа для вип патронов.

BarnettDL

эх... жду проду с училкой брюнеткой за катьку. P.S. я так понял текущее обновление это перенос бб в гламур но с исправлениями ?? вот только не могу представить что будет продолжение развития сюжета макса а играть заново ну даже не знаю... P. S. S. надеюсь что вы катьку не забросите )))

В этом месяца обновление-то будет ? Ну версия новая :D

So is this heading towards a sandbox mode where you can repeat thing or is it still one time for each thing. Would like to see maybe a way to replay some of the more interesting interactions once they get unlocked.

Brett

Полагаю не всё так просто. Там же видны заготовки, куда можно будет заходить. А для этого нужно механику доделывать. Хотя бы тот же рост параметров.. Вон, с Оскаром как они провели время, а его параметры вообще не изменились... с Андрю таже беда... Хотя про Оскара точно не помню, но вроде также всё и осталось. А толку давать контент в ноуте, который по факту будет мёртвым.

BarnettDL

pliss for a walkthrough for 011 version explicity haw Alice cal yu to herr haus thanks

szekely gabor

Главное, чтоб "ББ-Гламур" не забанил Патреон, ведь поводы для этого имеются.После очередного бана, ДС не сможет тут работать.

DS: "don't wait for her" ...

About 0.11 offline? 🙄

Hlextor

Я всё понимаю, что получится то получится, но... В ожиданиии добавления контента и развития сюжета добавьте в ноут Кейт хоть что нибудь. С минимальными затратами по производству графики и т.п. Пусть она создаст себе страничку в соцсети и всячески украшает и наполняет её, чат бот какой нибудь (потом всё это может пригодиться, а может и нет, неважно), "онлайн покер", пусть играет по маленькой ставке. И бесит, что её статистика по отношению к мужчинам/женщинам не меняется.

Tommy2020

Месяца через два.Наверное.

автономная версия?

You are a real fighter! I love your comments 😊👍🏼

Hlextor

Awesome news, thanks!

Offshore - Adult Games Developer

So are we to assume that the events in this game pick up where the last game left off. or is this going to be a full reboot

gamersglory

..и мнение по поводу "Пути подченения" и "Пути доминирования". Я думаю, что DS стоило бы сделать "Путь подчинения" тоже желанным/выйгрышным для игроков, но в средне-долгосрочной перспективе с позиции женской хитрости, женских манипуляций, уловок и т.п.. Типа стратегической концепции - "Проигрывать сражение, чтобы выйграть войну" (тем более, что она девушка и ей психологически этот путь ближе). Все мы знаем, что сила дамы в её слабости ;) Этим и нужно пользоваться (как минимум). Нужно придумать что-то такое, чтобы отыгрывание "Пути подчинения" приносило игроку в сюжете свои резоны и выйгрыши, кроме банального просматривания adult-сцен.

Многие ноют "Ну когда же, ну когда же будет развиваться то, что сейчас приостановлено?" - Отвечаю -"Как-только, так сразу!". Игра находится в стадии 0.11 и работы в ней ещё непочатый край, а вам подавай всё и сразу... Так не бывает. ..у нас, у русских, на этот счёт есть две хороших поговорки "Москва не сразу строилась" и "Всему своё время". Так что успокойтесь и ждите. Когда всё будет к этому готово, тогда и появятся ваши долгожданные продолжения :) Может и не все, но многие...

True, I don't get the reaction myself either. As you have said nothing has been shelved and personally it'll be a waste to throw away kates story line especially ude to the direction our votes and the fun brewing between Kate, Julia and Nick.

ghost556

Probably, I’m guessing with both main characters 👍

It’ll probably be a choice dude to be honest

I’m looking forward to the update anyway

Well said, I agree

I still don’t understand why this 0.12 update is such an issue, Kate will be the focus of 0.13, I’m also invested in the Kate storyline, lots (or so I’m led to believe) supported on the promise of having a choice to play a male lead, yet for one update the Male lead has had some focus and people throw their toys out of the pram. The post says the choice will be there for Kate to lose her virginity, who said it will be with Max?? Maybe it’s going to be Adam or Nick, maybe someone else even, I’m not going to assume anything until the next version comes out, just because there’s a choice to lose the V, doesn’t technically mean a player has to take that option, it’s a sandbox after all so nothing is going to be 100% linear. I just thought people would be less critical given there’s a whole support level who wanted a male lead but has got hardly anything so far, bit of give and take needed here. I just think supporters here need to be a bit more open minded and actually trust the game developer you’re obviously here to support......call DS everything but he keeps everyone up to date with future plans, regular teasers, polls on future content and ALWAYS delivers updates on time, while delivering a good quality product, give some credit where it’s due here, I’ve been here supporting DS since BB 0.3 which was a long while ago and I continued to support Glamour, not because of the product itself (which helps) but because I believe in team DS’s ability to provide a good product..... Every single concern mentioned above, the rest of the class stories, Julia, Nick, College, punishments, it’s all going to come with future updates, this game is far from completed and I think patience is needed because nowhere has it been said that ANY story arc has been shelved, it will come in future updates.

So first off I'm excited about 0.12 looks like its going to be a lot of fun. Now as for Kate I have no intention to drop Kate and as already discussed their is going to be a vote. Both the dedication for a month or alternating months have their pros and cons but the main point is Kate story continues. Now the reason for several story lines being on standby is due to once again due to a previous vote, we naturally decided on a more focused direction for the art to lead to more sex in the short term and getting back to story at a later date. As for the reason why we have a split between Max/Alex and Kate. I still standby my original vote to have a both male and female lead. While i'm adaptable a lot of people weren't happy with a female lead character and no great surprise now people aren't with Max taking the lead once a month either. As i said years ago its absolutely impossible for DS to create a game where everyone will be happy, in addition the only for DS to rapidly expand the Story line and cover all the events is to drastically reduce the art quality. By spending less time on the art creating more quantity over quality this would free up time to develop the story line. Effectively doing the exact opposite of what he is doing now. Personally one of the core reasons I supported DS is down to the art designs and the brilliant 3D characters. That said my fiances are finite and as much as I love DS work, the danger of a month long wait is you have time to check out other games. As yet i haven't found any other game that has DS level of art, real as possible Human characters and ability to keep me as engaged. DS current approach as long it continues to produce results isn't impeding my love of Glamour, nor its new hybrid design. I'm looking forward to the numerous new options this new direction has created for both Kate and the new Max direction.

ghost556

Хм.. а мне наоборот хочется чтобы Катя уже переступила эту черту...

BarnettDL

The problem here is, that DS doesn't really care about the concerns of the supporters of Glamour with Kate as the one and only main character. And that is the cardinal error. Trying to satisfy everyone will lead to satisfy noone.

Harry

Nice. I liked the story of Max in BB. Half of the patreons left your patreon when the BB debacle started and when there was the announcemnt of a female protagonist. Taking also some time for Max will maybe bring some of them back. I think it will be good if some of the updates will be about Max

RazRazor

I understand that there are a lot of people who became DS fans because of BB. I personally don't like that genre of games. Glamour, OTOH, was right up my alley. I was a $40 patron for several months, but dropped down to a lower tier last month, and will likely drop it again if this continues. I don't look forward to it in the same way since so much focus was put on Max. I like that Alice is a key part of the game, but what about all of the other story lines? Kate won't take off her top in the backyard anymore, even though the mother said it was ok. She doesn't even have a functional cell phone yet! She did like a week of tutoring and agreed to move in with her teacher, but no follow up on that. And on and on and on.

Michael H

I'm glad that 0.12 will be so great, but I still cant go on on 0.11... it's really bad, and I don't know what to do... I'mm also thinking to quit my support, because I never had an answer...

А чем тебя Эрик не устраивает?Эрик всяко лучше чем малолетка Макс у которого эрекция на всё что шевелится.У Макс четыре женщины в доме только и ждут момента раздвинуть перед ним ноги, может ещё сделать, чтоб все женщины в игре хотели его?(уверен,прыщавая школота мечтающая о 777 девственницах была бы рада, но в эту игру не только прыщавые школьники играют, есть и те, кому сюжет нужен)

Почему я "тролль"?И я уже отписал комент.

Will have to wait a long time. Ds has lost 105 patrons who have stopped money to him about this. I think that more will leave in the long run as Max is not what people payed for at the start. Also does not help that he has not finished any of the stories for Kate at all.

I agree that is why i have stopped paying. And will not pay for any Max stories at all

That is the reason i am stopping payment at the min. I will not pay for content that i do not want to play. Until he gets back to the old stories and quests that need to be finished i will not be paying him any money at all .

What about the rest of the class and their stories, all the other quests that you have going with Kate. when will you start finishing them. Also the punishments at school and getting the teachers on your side, When do we get to care on with that. Also the hotel and stories like candy's which need to be updated and finished as well.

In the near future, will we be able to further relations with Olivia, and maybe even Vicky?

Bobbo69

Если это будет с эриком. Просто удалю игру и перестану поддерживать разработчика.

Such a crucial thing as a virginity loss should be a choice in a sandbox game. At least we know she's one. It could be mentioned early or in a status to add a lot of spice. If she has to lose it in linear manner (like whole questine so far) in Max's home I damn hope it's with Eric.

Ignazzio

Кате не нужен этот молокосос по имени Макс, ей нужен взрослый и состоятельный мужчина, такой как учитель истории(не помню имени).Она сама это говорила в своих размышлениях о нём.Пусть Макс инцестом занимается, он это дело любит.И самое главное: о какой девственности идёт речь - о Катиной и это после слов доктора, о том, что у Кати девственности не обнаружено?

I really wanted to see where the modeling went, where her training as a masseuse went, what happened to the boy next door, what punishments would happen in class, how her assignment to affect voting in the school went, what happens with the BDSM equipment. None of this would have taken much more location development at all. I do appreciate that this new work will make new options available in the future, but you had a great set of story lines available and it seems that we just start up a new idea and it is left for some never to come future version. Without new content, I'll probably not download the next version and wait for .13

lothian53

Katya is older than Max. Kate loves adult and interesting people, such as a history teacher. You did not play the game or did not read the dialogues?

Эрик - определённо только Эрик.И Лизу тоже пусть Эрик!И Анну и Алису с Кирой.

Потерять невинность с Максом? Пожалуйста, только не с ним. Пусть уж будет этим толчком Эрик. )))

Vulgar Joys

По поводу девственности: Катя технически уже и не была девственницей, но я против того, чтобы Катя так быстро вступила в половые отношения. По крайней мере в гетеросексуальные (с проникновением). В игре и без неё хватает претенденток на это. Вот пусть они и вступают в сексуальные связи, а она, как демисексуал - пусть поживёт ;)

А где наш тролль Balabasuu. Ау! Ты где?

Karl

Yep, everything is around Max. Glamour was for Kate in the beginning but now she is not MC anymore. RIP Kate, to lost her virginity with this clown Max is the stupid idea I ever heard. I played this game because of Kate, now everything is around Max.

Nick

в 0.12 у нас всё ушло на механику. в 0.13 (игра за Катю), всё уйдёт на контент: новые ивенты и диалоги (на основе того, что мы сделали в 0.12)

Losing her virginity ? With Max (I assume) ? I mean c'mon...

Как я вижу, DS сейчас хотят подтянуть (подтягивают) ту часть игры, которая идёт за Макса (ББ). Выровнять части (подтянуть ББ-шную), т.к. за Макса в DS сам сюжет игры уже понимают и с этой частью клиента (в плане разработки сюжета) уже не надо маяться. В ней нужна недостающая графика (75-80%) и желание реализовать потребность во внедрении новых графических, и технических наработок. Возможно, в DS хотели бы, чтобы обе ветки шли вровень.

wait, did this mean the new Kate content is about BB too? What about the School and the other storys? Why can't you tell us that before we paid the month? I'm interesting in the School, the neighbor. But again BB, great... 80 Bucks for nothing.

This is great news, I am looking forward to 0.12. Wait another three days (if it seems on time). I'm really curious how I like it. Thanks DS.

lukumo

Excellent work!

Terebonkoff Game Studio

В 0.13 будут уже диалоги ? Или диалоги появятся где-то в 0.14-15 ?

Неплохо, жаль, что не всё сразу удалось, но это было бы слишком много. Тем более февраль короче на 2 (3) дня, чем обычный месяц. Всё равно, DS молодец. :)


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