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Sad Boyz Nightz #46 - "The Palworld Controversy" [VIDEO]
Added 2024-01-27 00:08:10 +0000 UTCAn overview of the complex and evolving discourse on possible art theft in Palworld
Let us know what you think of the ep :)
Comments
As someone who grew up being obsessed with Dragon Quest and Pokemon, I never even thought to compare the monsters. People are trippin lol.
Patrick
2024-12-11 23:19:57 +0000 UTC👏
kyla
2024-11-25 18:25:34 +0000 UTCIf I know anything as an artist with lots of artist friends... Making something that is the most likely to sell is the often the opposite of the art we end up making or enjoy making. This man is confusing artists with designers and marketers, just people who make a product. Fine art vs commercial art. He sounds like he doesn't actually know what an artist is lol. Most artists make something first and foremost for themselves, and they put it out in the world to connect with others. Finding your niche and finding a market is all secondary to that. People don't get into art to make money and sell a product. If they wanted to do that they'd go into another industry. I've personally seen the most AI concern among smaller fine artists, with questions about the integrity of companies using their art to train AI and therefore lack of platforms to show work on making the struggle to gain any views and interest harder, and the eternal human debate of "what is art?" Comercial arts people I know are more interested in workflow optimization and "well, actually..."ing it all. It's all tech industry coded. Though tbf, I live in San Francisco so artists vs tech bros is a fact of life.
Lee U
2024-09-11 05:43:07 +0000 UTCLITERALLY!
Skiddly Winks
2024-07-11 12:56:01 +0000 UTCJarvis' interaction with that twitter weirdo is why I deleted the app years ago. It's so infuriating to try to have civil discourse with people and always get the whole rigamarole of someone making random inflammatory statements and then pulling the "I don't care actually and you lost because yOu cArE lol" move. It makes my brain go owie
Skiddly Winks
2024-07-11 12:55:10 +0000 UTCjarvis “the man” johnson baddie smp reference???
Alexis W
2024-02-12 15:09:32 +0000 UTCIt says a lot about how great this pod is, when I dont play any games at all, know very very little about them, and still absolutely loved this ep
Eloise Fraser-Hurley
2024-02-06 19:58:43 +0000 UTCoh god, nothing like 2 hours of an in depth review of something i’ve never heard about to help me do housework! thank you for unintentionally body doubling with me 🤗
Ryleigh Millar
2024-02-05 23:58:33 +0000 UTC[WTYP voice] Welcome to Sad Boyz Nights, a podcast about feelings and other things. With slides.
kit kat
2024-02-04 02:11:51 +0000 UTCJarvis just like me fr LMAO
Phogul
2024-02-03 19:30:21 +0000 UTCwas listening to this at a coffee shop and i had to go home because it made me want to play the violet dlc lol
Sophie P
2024-02-01 19:22:30 +0000 UTCI just spent two weeks trying to research the background of a character in a ballad so I appreciate so so much the addressing of random hyperfixations. Super fun ep, y’all.
DM Fangorn
2024-02-01 00:01:07 +0000 UTCOmg that person arguing at you on Twitter was so annoying!!! They wouldn’t stop yapping and then said “you just won’t stop tweeting” LORD!!🤦♀️
Lillian Cloudwing
2024-01-31 20:08:42 +0000 UTClove a game boyz moment! i really enjoy hearing yalls takes on this kind of thing. would love to hear yall talk about video game stuff more in the future especially because it seems to be a big interest for both of you
gustopher
2024-01-31 17:28:06 +0000 UTCNow as a non Pokémon fan, if you showed me a design me Palworld, I would think it was a Pokémon. But if you showed me a design from DragonQuest, I would not think it’s a Pokémon. Yeah the post is right in pointing out that the creature designs are similar, but like Jordan said, you can only go so far from the source inspiration and still have it look recognizable as the source inspiration. Creatures designed from crabs are gonna look like crabs, caterpillars are gonna look like caterpillars, and bats like bats. At least with DragonQuest and Pokémon, they use different coloring choices or patterns. Palworld looks TOO much like Pokémon to pass as designs from the same inspiration. Another thing is that DragonQuest’s and Pokémon’s similar designs look like they were inspired from the same real life source, but Palworld’s designs look like they were inspired by Pokémon. Either way, Pokemon is so much bigger and more recognizable to modern audiences than DragonQuest is that if Pokémon really was a rip off, it obviously did something different enough that made the designs more appealing to people. Palworld seeming took Pokémon and made it worse. Defending Palworld from people claiming it’s similar to Pokemon is, at least, just as bad as defending a multibillion dollar company. At the end of the day, Nintendo is so hard handed about illegal use of their products that if they thought Palworld was a issue they would have done something about it, and as far as I know they haven’t. So I guess just don’t play the game if you think it’s AI generated or plagiarized from Pokemon, and forget about it. The more people complain about Palworld the more attention it gets. Let the game die unsuccessful, and hope it inspires the company to make something fully original.
Vynnie
2024-01-30 03:24:07 +0000 UTCOmg long main episode AND 2 hour bonus? You spoil us I'm spoiled
Deanna
2024-01-29 17:51:58 +0000 UTCYeah palword… Don’t like the idea of shooting and killing “Pals.” The game seems fun but I just can’t get over that fact.😅
Joob
2024-01-29 09:30:17 +0000 UTCi dont think "delusional conspiracy theories" is really the right way to describe concerns from the public about ip theft. if people are concerned then it's worth talking about. i dont see why people can't discuss things just because they arent directly involved with it legally
Gianna
2024-01-29 06:53:50 +0000 UTC2 hrs!!!! A 2 hr long night ep is so exciting
Vynnie
2024-01-29 04:08:02 +0000 UTCEveryone's talking about how Palworld is ripping off Pokemon. The asset flipping I saw from the trailer is from Fortnite. The glider is just a straight rip, including the animations of swaying back and forth.
Andrew Fedje, Conduit of Corn
2024-01-28 15:32:50 +0000 UTCSorry for multiple comments, but you mentioned triple A companies thinking they might get away with using AI voice acting in their games. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown, as brilliant of a game as it is, uses a very popular text-to-speech voice for a character. It was super offputting and felt like.... should we really be using text to speech rather than paying a human to do it? This is Ubisoft, they shouldn't be cutting corners on stuff like that.
Whotio
2024-01-28 09:56:14 +0000 UTCIdk I'm just not playing palworld bc I booted it up and very basic features were broken, like reorienting structures and whatnot. It reminds me of Ark's launch, and that game turned out great. The discourse is fun and interesting but I'm probably not gonna play it again until it's out of early access.
Whotio
2024-01-28 09:13:03 +0000 UTCWatching this while playing palworld is kinda a vibe
JibbyBoyThicc
2024-01-28 05:21:42 +0000 UTCI think the legit only worry/issue i have with Palworld is that there are literal humanoid, like actually look like humans, basically a Team Rocket analog, that you can capture and then sell to a vendor. I don't believe you can have these 'pals' work for you like the animalistic ones but that needs to change pretty immediately.
Matt Piela
2024-01-28 01:10:45 +0000 UTCtypical asmongold L
Greg Thomas
2024-01-28 00:45:08 +0000 UTCToday, I learned that my childhood bestie (we are 28 years deep) loves you both and refers to you as “such good eggs”. That gave me a little heart-smile. I got to learn something new about one of my favorite humans, and had the opportunity to share with her the good feelings y’all bring. Awesome Saturday in my book ❤️
Lily Delphia
2024-01-27 23:48:28 +0000 UTCGreat episode boys! I bought Palworld two or three days after it was released on steam. My best friend sent me the release trailer and said "lol have u seen Pokemon with guns" and within the hour we had both purchased it. We've both been life-long fans of the series (we still argue over who is going to buy which game version so we can trade exclusives) and while I knew there were some overlaps, I really hadn't seen the discourse over how similar some of the assets are 😅 I feel like the timing of Palworld's release was also a big factor in why we decided to get the game, S&V's dlc was kind of meh for both of us, and with no big Pokemon release this year it really seems to fill the gap. Anyways this was long and rambly, but again great main episode and nights this week!
Emily Matzke
2024-01-27 22:53:40 +0000 UTCEnjoyed the pod, this plus the hank green and musicians pod helped me clean my room this afternoon.
LemonMIntCat she 27
2024-01-27 22:23:45 +0000 UTCAs someone also obsessed with Pokémon this is so great to listen to
Zen
2024-01-27 20:24:09 +0000 UTC"i made a presentation" jarvis says as i laugh out loud only to realize minutes later that he was serious and actually made a presentation. this is the content i signed up for
Leticia
2024-01-27 17:53:09 +0000 UTCJust make a gaming podcast already. loved the MGS talk, need more
Colin Tevis
2024-01-27 16:11:56 +0000 UTCGotta say, I LOVE the shirt Jarvis is wearing. Whatever that material is looks amazing.
Cyan
2024-01-27 11:37:32 +0000 UTClmao I should have just used a notepad and then typed it out at the end.
guy persson
2024-01-27 09:51:16 +0000 UTCgot a bizarre sort of fascination out of watching the multiple edits this comment got over the course of a few hours, never seen such a thing in real time before
Dylan Roy
2024-01-27 09:20:15 +0000 UTCbanger. love a hyperfocus presentation and discussion!
Beth Straubel
2024-01-27 08:41:34 +0000 UTCGreat episodes today boys. Thanks for being the mixed representation we deserve.
Vaughn Wright
2024-01-27 08:04:10 +0000 UTCi love the random shadowheart reference as im watching this while playing baldurs gate. also had no idea about any of this pal world stuff so it was really interesting
Naima
2024-01-27 06:34:51 +0000 UTCyeah they talked abt that later in the ep
Rohey
2024-01-27 05:56:59 +0000 UTCHappy sad boyz day to all who celebrate
Gwendo
2024-01-27 05:38:45 +0000 UTCbabe wake up jarvis is nerding out for hours again!
Rohey
2024-01-27 05:35:20 +0000 UTCEven as someone who doesn't personally have a visceral aversion to hearing the c-word, I was disappointed to look at my screen and find slime didn't actually use the phrase "said it like a bundt cake" because that is my new favorite insult. I now want to call people bundt cakes more often.
Dylan Roy
2024-01-27 04:39:52 +0000 UTCAround 25:00 that wasn't images generated by the Palworld dev. He was commenting on someone else's generated images. The whole discourse is in bad faith. Full disclosure: I do care about plagiarism and theft of assets. For example, I condemned the developer of Dark and Darker who blatantly stole the source code from his employer. But at the end of the day what matters is whether Nintendo/PokemonCompany/courts consider it to be infringement. Since Nintendo has had years to file suit and the Japanese legal system is even more strict on copyright than normal (the game passed legal review), the delusional conspiracy theories are pointless.
guy persson
2024-01-27 04:05:10 +0000 UTCtwitter bro cried himself to sleep that night for sure
Gabi
2024-01-27 03:56:51 +0000 UTCThis topic choice is hysterical to me because I just bought Super Mario Sunshine for a little nostalgia pickup and I was playing it while listening to the episode.
Bluebird
2024-01-27 03:52:23 +0000 UTCI love how this starts I feel like I just got picked up like a mii and got wiggled over and dropped into this conversation😂
Sarah S
2024-01-27 00:11:30 +0000 UTC
